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victorica_db wrote:

NM
00:17:684 (17684|3) - 这样的就写鼓吧
00:30:484 (30484|0,30884|1,31284|2) - 换成普通的吧 - 感觉普通的不够燃
00:35:684 (35684|3) - 不要鼓
00:57:984 (57984|1,58284|2) - 放一个轨道爽一点
01:21:684 (81684|0,82084|1,82484|2) - 换成点吧
01:34:484 - 不如直接鼓
其他全改了 感谢db!
Spy
摸圖還債

[General]
BG能不能找一個沒上過中文字的版本,上了中文字感覺很維和

[NM]
00:58:784 (58784|2) - 不是主音
00:59:284 (59284|0,59584|1) - 可以jack
01:00:084 (60084|3,60384|2,60684|1) - 同上
01:34:484 (94484|3) - 其實沒必要抓這個
01:37:284 - 漏音
01:38:884 - ^
01:40:484 - ^
01:43:684 - ^
01:45:284 - ^
01:47:284 (107284|3) - 一樣,沒必要特別抓
01:47:284 (107284|3) - 漏音
01:47:284 (107284|3) - ^
01:54:284 (114284|3,114684|0,115084|3) - 同音
01:56:484 - 漏音
02:33:203 - ^
02:41:284 (161284|3,161584|2) - 這2個之間留一點空格其實會好打一點
02:43:084 (163084|2,163284|3) - 同音
02:46:284 (166284|1,166484|0) - ^
02:49:484 (169484|1,169684|0) - ^

[HD]
坦白說你這開頭我看不太懂在抓什麼,我也不知道怎麼摸起,自己檢查改一改吧,如果說是主音的話,很多地方都對錯了
00:50:584 (50584|3,50684|2,50784|1) - 跟00:50:884 (50884|0,50984|1,51084|2,51184|3) - 其實沒有任何銜接,你這樣擺就奇怪了
00:51:284 (51284|1) - 這裡加kick了,後面的LN有Kick順便加吧,好比00:52:084 - 00:52:384 - 00:52:684 - 00:52:884 - 00:53:684 - 00:54:284 - 00:54:384 - 00:54:484 - 00:55:484 - 00:55:884 - 00:56:684 - 00:57:084 -
00:57:884 (57884|3) - 可以刪,不需要抓這個
00:58:284 (58284|1,58284|0) - 排列換一下,跟前面的[12]是不一樣的音,這樣維和
00:58:684 (58684|0) - 同樣,可刪
00:58:784 (58784|1,58784|3) - 聽起來不是主音
00:59:084 (59084|1,59084|3) - 同樣,跟前面音不一樣,方向可以做顛倒或者換個排列
00:59:884 (59884|2,59884|0) - 音高明顯較低
01:00:284 (60284|0) - 刪
01:00:684 (60684|3,60684|2) - 可以換成[23]之類的東西,音高只有稍微變高一點,但是還是有類似音高,所以我們可以讓3弄成jack來表示這個感覺
01:37:284 - 可以加,用100%回放這裡感覺就是漏音
01:38:884 - ^
01:40:484 - ^
01:43:684 - ^
01:45:284 - ^
01:46:884 - ^
01:49:284 (109284|2,109484|0,109584|1,109684|2) - 看不懂了
01:50:084 (110084|2) - 這東西你前面沒加,後面就加了,所以沒理由前面不加
01:52:484 (112484|1,112684|3,112784|2,112884|1) - 我也看不懂
01:54:084 (114084|2,114284|3,114384|2,114484|1) - ^
01:55:684 (115684|2,115884|0,115984|1,116084|2) - ^
01:57:584 (117584|2,117684|1,117784|3,117884|2,117984|1) - 看不懂,抓主音我覺得就挺好的
02:33:203 - 我不太懂為什麼你要刻意空出來,可以加

[MX]
00:28:884 - 我覺得很卡手
00:47:684 - 不得不說這個SV把感覺做出來了,很棒
02:36:484 - 其實排列可以有一點變化,而且這樣真的很卡手,至少我覺得

[SHD]
00:28:884 - 這一坨不多說,re掉,排列完全不能打
02:00:884 - 這坨其實能打的應該也不多
02:36:484 - 一樣,這坨完全不能打

其實我趕時間沒時間仔細摸後面這2個難度,不過說實話後面MX跟SHD其實就音抓滿,什麼好摸的
要飛之前如果擔心有問題可以再叫我來看一次後面這2個難度
Good luck
Topic Starter
paperlens

Spy wrote:

摸圖還債

[General]
BG能不能找一個沒上過中文字的版本,上了中文字感覺很維和

[NM]
你成功的让我的NM更没人性了
00:58:784 (58784|2) - 不是主音 - 不, 他是
00:59:284 (59284|0,59584|1) - 可以jack - 已改
01:00:084 (60084|3,60384|2,60684|1) - 同上 - 已改
01:34:484 (94484|3) - 其實沒必要抓這個 - 已改另一种排列
01:37:284 - 漏音 - 作为NM这些漏音我都不想抓,而且那些不是主音
01:38:884 - ^
01:40:484 - ^
01:43:684 - ^
01:45:284 - ^
01:47:284 (107284|3) - 一樣,沒必要特別抓 - 已改另一种排列
01:47:284 (107284|3) - 漏音
01:47:284 (107284|3) - ^
01:54:284 (114284|3,114684|0,115084|3) - 同音 - 不, 他们不是
01:56:484 - 漏音
02:33:203 - ^
02:41:284 (161284|3,161584|2) - 這2個之間留一點空格其實會好打一點 - nice,改了
02:43:084 (163084|2,163284|3) - 同音 - 换了排列
02:46:284 (166284|1,166484|0) - ^ - 换了排列
02:49:484 (169484|1,169684|0) - ^ - 换了排列

[HD]
坦白說你這開頭我看不太懂在抓什麼,我也不知道怎麼摸起,自己檢查改一改吧,如果說是主音的話,很多地方都對錯了 - 不是主音,是纯粹的逻辑性抓鼓音,我也不知道HD这里还能怎么抓,就很纸张的随便写了些感觉顺手的带感的,我再看看吧
00:50:584 (50584|3,50684|2,50784|1) - 跟00:50:884 (50884|0,50984|1,51084|2,51184|3) - 其實沒有任何銜接,你這樣擺就奇怪了 - 改排列了,不过我本来就是想要那种强行顺过来进主音的感觉
00:51:284 (51284|1) - 這裡加kick了,後面的LN有Kick順便加吧,好比00:52:084 - 00:52:384 - 00:52:684 - 00:52:884 - 00:53:684 - 00:54:284 - 00:54:384 - 00:54:484 - 00:55:484 - 00:55:884 - 00:56:684 - 00:57:084 - - 你和sky都这样说,我改了
00:57:884 (57884|3) - 可以刪,不需要抓這個 - 干 这是灵魂音好吧
00:58:284 (58284|1,58284|0) - 排列換一下,跟前面的[12]是不一樣的音,這樣維和 - 是一样的音吧
00:58:684 (58684|0) - 同樣,可刪 - 我觉得这个音很爽
00:58:784 (58784|1,58784|3) - 聽起來不是主音 - 我没太明白为什么你觉得这个音不是主音
00:59:084 (59084|1,59084|3) - 同樣,跟前面音不一樣,方向可以做顛倒或者換個排列 - 明明一样啊,1 -1 -1 -1`-1`-1`-4 -4 -4 -4`-4`-4`
00:59:884 (59884|2,59884|0) - 音高明顯較低 - 我去找了o2的key音,这些音是完全一样的,只有在每一小节的开始有一个附加的修饰音,那个不用抓的
01:00:284 (60284|0) - 刪 - 我还是觉得这是灵魂音,爽
01:00:684 (60684|3,60684|2) - 可以換成[23]之類的東西,音高只有稍微變高一點,但是還是有類似音高,所以我們可以讓3弄成jack來表示這個感覺 - 我研究了一下,是这样的,你会觉得这里的音高稍微变高了一点,是因为这里的音比第一个的音少了一个,而且第二个音有第一个音多出来的那个音的回响。那个音我不抓的,而且事实上,是前两个音比第三个音多了一个高八度的修饰音,实际音高是前两个比较高。你会觉得第三个音稍高只是因为第三个音是纯粹音 - 我又想了想,觉得这里不放同键位真的不爽
01:37:284 - 可以加,用100%回放這裡感覺就是漏音 - 在那里只有鼓音,而我这一段是在突出主音,我在下一段再现段重点描述了鼓音来过渡到后面的谱面,在那一段我抓了这些音01:50:084 - 。
01:38:884 - ^
01:40:484 - ^
01:43:684 - ^
01:45:284 - ^
01:46:884 - ^
01:49:284 (109284|2,109484|0,109584|1,109684|2) - 看不懂了 - 如上所述, 这是鼓音体现,为了过渡出一种“越来越爽”的感觉(对HD来说)
01:50:084 (110084|2) - 這東西你前面沒加,後面就加了,所以沒理由前面不加如上所述,这一段重复了挺久,第一我不想让谱面无聊,第二我想要一点点来描述这一段的各种特征,所以我先用主音双键来进入旋律,然后开始抓鼓音来增加爽感,并且过渡到后面的爆发段
01:52:484 (112484|1,112684|3,112784|2,112884|1) - 我也看不懂
01:54:084 (114084|2,114284|3,114384|2,114484|1) - ^
01:55:684 (115684|2,115884|0,115984|1,116084|2) - ^
01:57:584 (117584|2,117684|1,117784|3,117884|2,117984|1) - 看不懂,抓主音我覺得就挺好的 首先呢 你可以理解为01:57:484 - 这里的一个主音等于01:57:484 (117484|3,117584|2,117684|1) - 这三个键。你看不懂的这段是我在写鼓音和修饰音,如果你100%听的话应该会听到一种使音乐很有空间感的1/4荡来荡去的背景装饰音,我是在写那个
02:33:203 - 我不太懂為什麼你要刻意空出來,可以加 - 第一我前面没抓过这个音,第二这里不空出来没有减速的感觉,第三即使在高难度我也没有在减速段多抓音,只是加了jack

[MX]
00:28:884 - 我覺得很卡手 - 就是要卡你
00:47:684 - 不得不說這個SV把感覺做出來了,很棒
02:36:484 - 其實排列可以有一點變化,而且這樣真的很卡手,至少我覺得 - 就是要卡你,要不然怎么表现出那种渐高渐强越来越紧张的感觉,顺便一提这一段不适用于12341234因为后面用了,也不适用于12341231234234因为谱面限制,最好的选择只剩这种了

[SHD]
00:28:884 - 這一坨不多說,re掉,排列完全不能打 - 我能FC,但是如果说的人多我就改
02:00:884 - 這坨其實能打的應該也不多 - 这坨确实很屎,我再想想排列
02:36:484 - 一樣,這坨完全不能打- 只要有一个BN说我就改 好不好

其實我趕時間沒時間仔細摸後面這2個難度,不過說實話後面MX跟SHD其實就音抓滿,你少了个“没”什麼好摸的
要飛之前如果擔心有問題可以再叫我來看一次後面這2個難度 - 你都说什么好摸的,我等到到时再让你看一些我觉得有问题的就好了
Good luck
跪谢spy
Sky_Demon
一年一度的清req時間又到了

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NM

00:34:884 - 這裡應該要雙鍵的 你這裡有抓→00:33:284 (33284|0,33284|1) -
00:38:084 - 同上^
00:41:284 - 同上^ **好歹也是同一段落 抓音要保持一致**
00:40:984 (40984|0,41084|2) - Ctrl+G 相比兌換之前的手感會更好
00:43:284 (43284|0,43584|2) - Ctrl+G 這裡要對換是因為你前面的雙鍵跟這個雙鍵音不一樣後者是有鈸音才雙 所以用不同列來呈現
00:44:084 (44084|0,44084|1) - 保持單鍵就好 如果只是存脆音色稍重用雙鍵 在NM裡不合適 寧願簡單就好
00:50:584 (50584|3) - 這個音 要在這裡的→00:50:684 -
00:51:884 (51884|3,52684|0) - 不考慮用短LN來呈現? 用單Note結尾反而會增加難度
00:57:284 (57284|0,57484|3) - 我會砍掉這兩個 然後加一條LN從00:57:284 - 開始 00:57:684 - 結束
^為什麼選擇LN? 因為比起硬抓不明顯的00:57:284 (57284|0,57484|3) - 不如就讓LN代表後面的連音來的實在 簡單 明瞭
01:05:684 (65684|2,65984|1,66284|0,66684|3) - 改成LN 結束在01:06:484 - 比起這段的其他音色 它們明顯的拉長了
01:09:484 (69484|0) - 突然用LN跟了這個拉長音 那這兩個怎麼沒有01:08:884 (68884|2,69184|1) -
01:12:684 (72684|0) - 改成LN 結束在01:13:084 - 為什麼唯獨這麼要改前兩個單鍵不改? 因為這個音最高
01:23:284 - 這裡開始鼓音很明顯比琴音清晰很多 但你卻選擇抓比較小聲又不明顯的琴 我會建議你改成鼓
^新手打簡單的難度最依賴聲音 與其抓不清晰的琴不如抓明顯鼓來的好 手感也會有差
01:42:484 - 漏音 你前面的鈸音都有跟到
01:45:684 - ^
01:55:284 - ^
02:00:684 (120684|1,120684|0,121084|1,121084|2,121484|2,121484|3) - 改單鍵
^我知道你這3個包誇前兩個雙鍵都是抓琴音 不過為什麼只叫你改這3個是因為第一個件有鈸音 第二個有鼓音 這三個就只有琴所以改單
同時又能降低難度
02:24:984 - 漏音 很明顯的琴
02:45:484 (165484|2) - 沒有音的
^只是02:45:384 (165384|3) - 的琴音聽起來很常讓你覺得這裡有 但其實只是背景的很小聲琴音 用25%聽聽看
02:51:184 (171184|2,171484|3,171984|2,172284|3) - 可以連點 手感問題
HD

00:28:684 (28684|0) - 移動到3 盡量減少雙鍵之後接LN的這種排列 會卡 尤其是HD
00:30:484 (30484|0,30584|1,30684|2,30784|3,30884|0,30984|1,31084|2,31184|3,31284|0,31384|1,31484|2,31584|3) -
^如果這是跟鼓音我會建議用散打排列 如果是跟滑過去的聲音你必須改為跟它一樣的LN →00:31:684 (31684|0) -
00:34:584 - 雙鍵 它的音並不清 反倒說很明顯 跟後面的雙鍵排列音差沒多少 一個單一個雙就失去一致性
00:35:884 (35884|0) - 相比起來它的音比較輕 單鍵可接受
00:40:984 - 雙鍵 原因同上上點
00:44:084 (44084|1,44084|0,44084|2) - 不用特意3鍵強調這個音的重 相比起來因為有鈸才3鍵的這裡好很多→00:43:284 (43284|2,43284|1,43284|3) -
00:50:684 (50684|1) - 移到3 我會選擇連點來區分它跟他們的差異性同樣是單鍵但抓音卻不同→00:50:884 (50884|0,50984|1,51084|2,51184|3) -
00:51:284 - 刻意只抓主音太單調 可以考慮把鼓也抓了 不會變特別難 反而手感/爽度會增加
00:58:484 (58484|3) - 移到2 它很明顯音高跟這兩個不同→00:58:784 (58784|3,58784|2,59084|2,59084|3) -
01:02:684 (62684|2,62784|3,62784|0) - 像之前提到的這兩個音沒有區別的 但一雙一單
^我是你會選擇都單鍵 順便把這個也改了01:03:084 (63084|0,63084|1) - 讓雙鍵強調這裡的主音跟鼓→01:03:284 (63284|1,63284|2) -
01:03:684 (63684|2) - 移動到01:03:484 - 為什麼讓這裡雙鍵? 因為他跟這個音一樣→01:03:284 (63284|1,63284|2) -
^相比起來01:03:684 - 並沒有很清楚的鼓音 使用單鍵能更好的表現你這些音01:03:784 (63784|0,63884|2,63984|1) -
01:09:184 (69184|3) - 同樣的音在這段落都是LN 突然跟了這個note意義不明 換LN吧
01:19:684 (79684|3,80084|0,80484|3,80884|0,81284|3) - 這些音在這裡就開始了→01:18:484 -
01:22:884 (82884|0) - 換LN 結束在01:22:984 - 為什麼這樣做? 為了區分你之前的鼓 很明顯地你這個單鍵跟的不是鼓
01:23:284 - 這裡開始抓音只抓了一半 舉個例子↓
*01:23:584 (83584|1) - 跟了這個音 但這沒跟→ 01:23:984 - 01:24:384 -
*01:25:484 (85484|2) - 跟了這個琴 但這沒→01:25:884 - 01:26:284 - 這整段建議你重看一次 好好取你要的樂器/聲音
01:48:884 - 這裡開始也是只抓了一半 ↓
*這個音01:49:584 (109584|1) - 抓了 但很多地方都漏了 整段50%聽聽看 好好取一次吧
01:58:484 - 這裡開始 除了01:58:484 (118484|0,118484|3,118484|2) - 02:00:084 (120084|1,120084|0,120084|2) - 3鍵都是沒必要的
02:09:884 (129884|3,129884|0) - 為什麼雙鍵 這兩個有鼓音可以理解→02:09:684 (129684|0,129684|1,130084|1,130084|3) -
^如果是為了跟琴音/手感才雙鍵 這是很不好的選擇 之後同樣的問題修正
02:24:984 - 漏音 雙鍵
02:31:495 - 雙鍵
02:38:084 (158084|0,158184|1,158284|2,158384|3,158484|0,158584|1,158684|2,158784|3,158884|0,158984|1,159084|2,159184|3) -
^這個前面也提過了 滑過去or鼓?
02:41:884 (161884|0,161884|1) - 相比起之前的音 單鍵就足夠了 因為它們是一樣的→02:41:284 (161284|2,161584|1) -
^**鍵數代表音色輕重是最合適的 極少數情況拿來代表音高合適**
02:42:184 (162184|0,162284|2) - 這個單鍵? 相同的聲音吧?→02:42:484 (162484|1,162484|3,162684|0,162684|2,162884|3,162884|2) -
02:45:084 (165084|2,165084|1) - 同上上
02:48:284 (168284|2,168284|1) - ^
02:48:584 (168584|2,168684|3) - 這個單鍵?
02:51:684 (171684|2,171684|3,171684|1) - 2就夠了
MX

00:36:884 - 可以3鍵 相比起來其他雙鍵的音它明顯的重
00:38:484 - 可以3鍵 有鈸音
00:42:284 - 怎麼是單 這裡你放雙→00:40:984 (40984|2,40984|0) - 同樣明顯
00:43:284 - 從這裡開始你的主音都可以3鍵 不用特地讓音高的3鍵
^因為這裡的特色就是這個明顯的主音 但你卻沒有把它表現出來 再說你是MX這種地方稍微豪放是沒關係的
00:46:484 - 這裡開始的雙鍵 意義不明 抓音只有一半而已
舉例子
*00:46:884 (46884|2,46884|3,47184|0,47184|2) - 這兩個雙鍵是抓電音
*00:47:384 (47384|3,47384|2) - 這個雙鍵是抓鼓 後續同樣的必須都修正
*00:47:484 (47484|1,47684|3) - 同第一點都是電音 但卻單
**一直到這裡都還有上述的問題00:51:284 -
00:51:284 (51284|0,51284|1) - 照你這個的雙LN音 按照音高這些地方也得雙才行→00:52:084 (52084|2,53684|1) -
00:52:884 (52884|2,53484|0) - 這啥音?
00:56:684 - 可雙鍵 比起你在LN範圍內的單鍵 這裡還有鼓音 你必須把他們區分開來
01:09:384 - 漏音
01:18:484 - 後續的音這裡就開始了
01:22:584 - 雙鍵 跟前一個雙鍵同樣的音
01:23:984 - 01:24:384 - 01:24:784 - 雙鍵 因為你這裡有抓雙鍵→01:23:584 -
^*後續一樣的不提了 你50% Check下
01:29:284 (89284|0,89284|1,89384|3,89384|2) - 同樣的音 可jack
01:34:384 - 漏音
01:38:984 - 漏音 你這裡有抓→01:38:784 (98784|2,99184|2) - 別只抓一半了..
^*後續一樣的修正
01:42:084 (102084|2,102084|3,102184|1,102184|0) - 可jack
01:58:484 - 從這裡開始可以把明顯的主音都用3鍵來表現出拍磚的特色 雙鍵/交叉/階梯player大概也打膩了
02:24:984 - 雙鍵 這段裡同樣的音都是雙 建議你用50%掃過一次
^*後續同樣的不提
02:45:384 - 雙鍵 這段得主音琴都雙
02:45:884 (165884|1,165884|2,165884|3) - 雙鍵 為什麼前後的3鍵都不改?因為前面有鼓音後面有鈸音 這裡只有琴
^不論是照音高或是拚手感 note數目得拿捏很重要 不是為了要讓player爽 而是為了讓你度過dq那一關 現在的om圈裡情況什麼鬼理由都有
02:48:584 - 02:48:684 - 雙鍵 原因就不多提了
02:50:884 - 這裡開始的3鍵強調特色做得很好 good
SHD

基本上錯誤都跟前3個差不多 大致上點出來 有空的話你整張50%掃過一次 好好斟酌下
* 段落保持一致性 (段落就用你下面的藍線書籤來區分) 段落內 note數/抓音要一致
* 同樣音高可jack 反正都SHD了(你還顧的著人性嗎 塞就對了
* 好好斟酌你段落裡要抓的樂器 還有要表現的特色
* 抓音別只抓一半了...(這跟段落一致性有很大的關聯
以上

完拉 祝好運~Star
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paperlens

Sky_Demon wrote:

一年一度的清req時間又到了

Key:|1|2|3|4|


NM

00:34:884 - 這裡應該要雙鍵的 你這裡有抓→00:33:284 (33284|0,33284|1) - 似的,你缩的没错,改了

00:38:084 - 同上^ - 改了

00:41:284 - 同上^ **好歹也是同一段落 抓音要保持一致** - 改了

00:40:984 (40984|0,41084|2) - Ctrl+G 相比兌換之前的手感會更好 - 不错的建议,不过我使用了其他排列

00:43:284 (43284|0,43584|2) - Ctrl+G 這裡要對換是因為你前面的雙鍵跟這個雙鍵音不一樣後者是有鈸音才雙 所以用不同列來呈現 - nice,改成其他排列

00:44:084 (44084|0,44084|1) - 保持單鍵就好 如果只是存脆音色稍重用雙鍵 在NM裡不合適 寧願簡單就好 - 可以

00:50:584 (50584|3) - 這個音 要在這裡的→00:50:684 - 可是我抓的音不是在那里,虽说打起来有点怪但还是这样吧,而且前面00:47:384 - 也是如此

00:51:884 (51884|3,52684|0) - 不考慮用短LN來呈現? 用單Note結尾反而會增加難度 - 我还是比较喜欢LN中间有一些停顿,应该没什么大碍吧

00:57:284 (57284|0,57484|3) - 我會砍掉這兩個 然後加一條LN從00:57:284 - 開始 00:57:684 - 結束 - nice
^為什麼選擇LN? 因為比起硬抓不明顯的00:57:284 (57284|0,57484|3) - 不如就讓LN代表後面的連音來的實在 簡單 明瞭 - 你说的没错

01:05:684 (65684|2,65984|1,66284|0,66684|3) - 改成LN 結束在01:06:484 - 比起這段的其他音色 它們明顯的拉長了 - 比起这一小段的音色确实是长了,但比起整体音色又还不够长,我不太喜欢在NM中拉短面

01:09:484 (69484|0) - 突然用LN跟了這個拉長音 那這兩個怎麼沒有01:08:884 (68884|2,69184|1) - 為什麼唯獨這麼要改前兩個單鍵不改? 因為這個音最高

01:12:684 (72684|0) - 改成LN 結束在01:13:084 - 為什麼唯獨這麼要改前兩個單鍵不改? 因為這個音最高很好已改

01:23:284 - 這裡開始鼓音很明顯比琴音清晰很多 但你卻選擇抓比較小聲又不明顯的琴 我會建議你改成鼓 - 这个建议很好,这一小段re了
^新手打簡單的難度最依賴聲音 與其抓不清晰的琴不如抓明顯鼓來的好 手感也會有差

01:42:484 - 漏音 你前面的鈸音都有跟到 - 加了,

01:45:684 - ^ - 不过这里没加,不够大声,其他地方这里也没加

01:55:284 - ^ - 加了

02:00:684 (120684|1,120684|0,121084|1,121084|2,121484|2,121484|3) - 改單鍵
^我知道你這3個包誇前兩個雙鍵都是抓琴音 不過為什麼只叫你改這3個是因為第一個件有鈸音 第二個有鼓音 這三個就只有琴所以改單
同時又能降低難度我知道第一個有鈸音 第二個有鼓音,但是这些音我一概没抓,只是单纯的琴音双键,如果我在前两个地方多加一个键来表示鼓音,后面的和琴音不在一起的鼓音我也得要抓,不好打。另外这里就是要难

02:24:984 - 漏音 很明顯的琴 - 没有啊,你把装饰音听混了吧

02:45:484 (165484|2) - 沒有音的 - 改了 你说的没错
^只是02:45:384 (165384|3) - 的琴音聽起來很常讓你覺得這裡有 但其實只是背景的很小聲琴音 用25%聽聽看

02:51:184 (171184|2,171484|3,171984|2,172284|3) - 可以連點 手感問題 - 改排列



HD

00:28:684 (28684|0) - 移動到3 盡量減少雙鍵之後接LN的這種排列 會卡 尤其是HD - 好

00:30:484 (30484|0,30584|1,30684|2,30784|3,30884|0,30984|1,31084|2,31184|3,31284|0,31384|1,31484|2,31584|3) -
^如果這是跟鼓音我會建議用散打排列 如果是跟滑過去的聲音你必須改為跟它一樣的LN →00:31:684 (31684|0) - 感觉散打会太难,不过我先散打放着了

00:34:584 - 雙鍵 它的音並不清 反倒說很明顯 跟後面的雙鍵排列音差沒多少 一個單一個雙就失去一致性 确实如此,改了
00:35:884 (35884|0) - 相比起來它的音比較輕 單鍵可接受

00:40:984 - 雙鍵 原因同上上點改了

00:44:084 (44084|1,44084|0,44084|2) - 不用特意3鍵強調這個音的重 相比起來因為有鈸才3鍵的這裡好很多→00:43:284 (43284|2,43284|1,43284|3) - 改了

00:50:684 (50684|1) - 移到3 我會選擇連點來區分它跟他們的差異性同樣是單鍵但抓音卻不同→00:50:884 (50884|0,50984|1,51084|2,51184|3) - 首先jack太难,其次00:50:684 (50684|1,50784|2) - 等于00:49:884 (49884|1,49984|2) -

00:51:284 - 刻意只抓主音太單調 可以考慮把鼓也抓了 不會變特別難 反而手感/爽度會增加 - 既然你和spy都这样说

00:58:484 (58484|3) - 移到2 它很明顯音高跟這兩個不同→00:58:784 (58784|3,58784|2,59084|2,59084|3) - 其实是一样的音高,只不过这里是一个滑音,不太想改,觉得改了会破坏规律性

01:02:684 (62684|2,62784|3,62784|0) - 像之前提到的這兩個音沒有區別的 但一雙一單这里没有改,单键那里其实是没有主音的,
^我是你會選擇都單鍵 順便把這個也改了01:03:084 (63084|0,63084|1) - 讓雙鍵強調這裡的主音跟鼓→01:03:284 (63284|1,63284|2) - 改了,还改了排列

01:03:684 (63684|2) - 移動到01:03:484 - 為什麼讓這裡雙鍵? 因為他跟這個音一樣→01:03:284 (63284|1,63284|2) -
^相比起來01:03:684 - 並沒有很清楚的鼓音 使用單鍵能更好的表現你這些音01:03:784 (63784|0,63884|2,63984|1) - 我还是更想要强调琴音而不是鼓音,所以没有为鼓音去改单双键

01:09:184 (69184|3) - 同樣的音在這段落都是LN 突然跟了這個note意義不明 換LN吧 - 这个音较短,不用LN

01:19:684 (79684|3,80084|0,80484|3,80884|0,81284|3) - 這些音在這裡就開始了→01:18:484 - - 希望从比较明显的地方开始抓音,要是渐入的那些也算上就没个头了

01:22:884 (82884|0) - 換LN 結束在01:22:984 - 為什麼這樣做? 為了區分你之前的鼓 很明顯地你這個單鍵跟的不是鼓 - 我不喜欢在低难度摆短面,而且这里突然停下已经足够表现这个音了

01:23:284 - 這裡開始抓音只抓了一半 舉個例子↓ - 这里现在的抓音就是我想要的,我不可能在这个diff抓全音
*01:23:584 (83584|1) - 跟了這個音 但這沒跟→ 01:23:984 - 01:24:384 - 就是要这样抓的
*01:25:484 (85484|2) - 跟了這個琴 但這沒→01:25:884 - 01:26:284 - - 那里不是在跟琴,那个note与前面的note是一致的 這整段建議你重看一次 好好取你要的樂器/聲音

01:48:884 - 這裡開始也是只抓了一半 ↓ - 这里现在的抓音更加是完全完全是我想要的
*這個音01:49:584 (109584|1) - 抓了 但很多地方都漏了 整段50%聽聽看 好好取一次吧 - 你可以理解为01:49:484 (109484|0,109584|1,109684|2) - 三个键等于01:49:484 - 这里的一个琴音

01:58:484 - 這裡開始 除了01:58:484 (118484|0,118484|3,118484|2) - 02:00:084 (120084|1,120084|0,120084|2) - 3鍵都是沒必要的 - 因为我要把这一小段做到爆炸,所以三键

02:09:884 (129884|3,129884|0) - 為什麼雙鍵 這兩個有鼓音可以理解→02:09:684 (129684|0,129684|1,130084|1,130084|3) -
^如果是為了跟琴音/手感才雙鍵 這是很不好的選擇 之後同樣的問題修正 - 首先那个地方是有附加的鼓音的,后面的相同地方听会更明显,这里同样这样加也是为了一致性,而最主要的是我要在每一小节的开始增加难度来表达这一段平行音律,我选择了jack和双键

02:24:984 - 漏音 雙鍵 - 不抓这个音

02:31:495 - 雙鍵 - 不,不大声,不在主音律上,这是修饰音

02:38:084 (158084|0,158184|1,158284|2,158384|3,158484|0,158584|1,158684|2,158784|3,158884|0,158984|1,159084|2,159184|3) -
^這個前面也提過了 滑過去or鼓?也换成了散打

02:41:884 (161884|0,161884|1) - 相比起之前的音 單鍵就足夠了 因為它們是一樣的→02:41:284 (161284|2,161584|1) -
^**鍵數代表音色輕重是最合適的 極少數情況拿來代表音高合適** - 我这里是和你想的一样的,但是我认为是否使用LN足以一定程度表达轻重了,这里的轻重比例也没有达到2:1啊

02:42:184 (162184|0,162284|2) - 這個單鍵? 相同的聲音吧?
02:42:484 (162484|1,162484|3,162684|0,162684|2,162884|3,162884|2) - 相同的声音,但这里不会放双键,因为他们在旋律中的重要性不同

02:45:084 (165084|2,165084|1) - 同上上^

02:48:284 (168284|2,168284|1) - ^^

02:48:584 (168584|2,168684|3) - 這個單鍵? - 这个双键了,而且删掉了后面的ghost note

02:51:684 (171684|2,171684|3,171684|1) - 2就夠了 - 我要让这里爆炸



MX

00:36:884 - 可以3鍵 相比起來其他雙鍵的音它明顯的重 - 三键会破坏这里的感觉,我完全没有抓鈸音

00:38:484 - 可以3鍵 有鈸音 - 三键会破坏这里的感觉,我完全没有抓鈸音

00:42:284 - 怎麼是單 這裡你放雙→00:40:984 (40984|2,40984|0) - 同樣明顯 - 不同样明显,而且主要是那个音是修饰音而已

00:43:284 - 從這裡開始你的主音都可以3鍵 不用特地讓音高的3鍵 - 不好,我觉得这里还不需要放三键主音,没有那么夸张
^因為這裡的特色就是這個明顯的主音 但你卻沒有把它表現出來 再說你是MX這種地方稍微豪放是沒關係的

00:46:484 - 這裡開始的雙鍵 意義不明 抓音只有一半而已
舉例子
*00:46:884 (46884|2,46884|3,47184|0,47184|2) - 這兩個雙鍵是抓電音 - 你听的太仔细了,这里音量鼓音>>电音,我不会用一个note抓鼓音一个note抓电音的。这里两个note就是忽视电音抓鼓音,因为鼓音音量完全覆盖掉电音,而且用双键抓鼓也是因为比起之前单键抓的电音,鼓音要远远明显
*00:47:384 (47384|3,47384|2) - 這個雙鍵是抓鼓 後續同樣的必須都修正
*00:47:484 (47484|1,47684|3) - 同第一點都是電音 但卻單
**一直到這裡都還有上述的問題00:51:284 - - 所以我这里都没改

00:51:284 (51284|0,51284|1) - 照你這個的雙LN音 按照音高這些地方也得雙才行→00:52:084 (52084|2,53684|1) - - 不双,只在每一小节的开始使用双LN表现节奏感。而且在已经有鼓音的地方双LN太满了

00:52:884 (52884|2,53484|0) - 這啥音? - 滑音

00:56:684 - 可雙鍵 比起你在LN範圍內的單鍵 這裡還有鼓音 你必須把他們區分開來 - 你可以理解为我这里没有抓鼓音。如果这里就开始双键,后面我就要四键一起jack了

01:09:384 - 漏音 - 故意漏

01:18:484 - 後續的音這裡就開始了 - 这里实在太小声,我还是希望从中间明显的地方开始抓,也省的玩家找不到节奏

01:22:584 - 雙鍵 跟前一個雙鍵同樣的音 - 不行的

01:23:984 - 01:24:384 - 01:24:784 - 雙鍵 因為你這裡有抓雙鍵→01:23:584 - -不双键,因为这里是1/4,和1/2的双键不是一码事
^*後續一樣的不提了 你50% Check下

01:29:284 (89284|0,89284|1,89384|3,89384|2) - 同樣的音 可jack - 交叉对点已经足够了

01:34:384 - 漏音- 故意漏,爽

01:38:984 - 漏音 你這裡有抓→01:38:784 (98784|2,99184|2) - 別只抓一半了.. - 全部都是故意漏的,如果这些音我不漏掉都抓满,后面很多地方我岂不都要四键jack。这些音漏掉,后面的段落才能有的表达,曲子的强弱才能有所对比
^*後續一樣的修正

01:42:084 (102084|2,102084|3,102184|1,102184|0) - 可jack - 同上

01:58:484 - 從這裡開始可以把明顯的主音都用3鍵來表現出拍磚的特色 雙鍵/交叉/階梯player大概也打膩了 - 这里三键拍砖的话后面1/4做不出来了

02:24:984 - 雙鍵 這段裡同樣的音都是雙 建議你用50%掃過一次 - 这段里同样的音我都用单键,因为1.他很小声2.他是装饰音3.会塞太满
^*後續同樣的不提

02:45:384 - 雙鍵 這段得主音琴都雙 - 这里jack足够让手感受发力的感觉了,用双键来表达是下策

02:45:884 (165884|1,165884|2,165884|3) - 雙鍵 為什麼前後的3鍵都不改?因為前面有鼓音後面有鈸音 這裡只有琴 - 不行,我不是那样抓音的。这里就是要让手停下1/4拍两下砖。你可以理解为三键抓主音
^不論是照音高或是拚手感 note數目得拿捏很重要 不是為了要讓player爽 而是為了讓你度過dq那一關 現在的om圈裡情況什麼鬼理由都有
这里的三键是故意的,而且现在om已经没人管了不会乱dq的 就算他为了这种理由dq 我全部有理由回复

02:48:584 - 02:48:684 - 雙鍵 原因就不多提了 - 02:48:484 (168484|3,168584|2,168684|3,168784|3) - 这个单手已经很夸张了,不需要再用双键来增加难度

02:50:884 - 這裡開始的3鍵強調特色做得很好 good - 感谢,我之前的类似地方没有三键强调,就是想只有这个地方三键爽起来



SHD

基本上錯誤都跟前3個差不多 大致上點出來 有空的話你整張50%掃過一次 好好斟酌下

* 段落保持一致性 (段落就用你下面的藍線書籤來區分) 段落內 note數/抓音要一致

* 同樣音高可jack 反正都SHD了(你還顧的著人性嗎 塞就對了

* 好好斟酌你段落裡要抓的樂器 還有要表現的特色
- 这里我也有想说,我基本上都只有在关注主音的,4k要像表达主音已经很难,我很大程度的忽略了各种鼓音,可能这与普通4k玩家常打的全鼓音谱面有很大的不同,但这正是我想表达的

* 抓音別只抓一半了...(這跟段落一致性有很大的關聯 - 我不是抓音抓一半,我的段落内一致性都已经是很好的,那些漏音几乎都是故意漏过去,每一个漏音我都有仔细考虑的,基本都是为了增加表达音乐的精确性,重要的音和不重要的音,就算音一样重,我也不会同等对待
以上

完拉 祝好運~Star
感谢Sky论文!NM改了很多 很棒
[Emiria]
几把图

shd
01:13:684 - 这段太垃圾,形状还丑 换成反键好
02:09:695 - 这里开是 放连续2连要比你后面那部份放到连点要好很多
02:29:496 (149496|1) - 这放到4
02:32:963 (152963|2) - 这放到1
02:35:055 (155055|0) - 放到4
02:36:055 (156055|3) - 2
02:36:198 (156198|1) - 1
Topic Starter
paperlens

victorica_db wrote:

几把图

shd
01:13:684 - 这段太垃圾,形状还丑 换成反键好
02:09:695 - 这里开是 放连续2连要比你后面那部份放到连点要好很多
02:29:496 (149496|1) - 这放到4
02:32:963 (152963|2) - 这放到1
02:35:055 (155055|0) - 放到4
02:36:055 (156055|3) - 2
02:36:198 (156198|1) - 1


ALL FIXED 感谢db
Akasha-
this map is very good as my opinion, some small suggestions before we get started:

check

1234

[Normal]
01:02:784 (62784|3) - move this to 1, same pitch as 01:02:484 (62484|0) -
00:57:684 - this part all is same pitch: i suggest this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4035669
01:10:084 (70084|0) - move to 2, hard to catch 01:09:484 (69484|0,70084|0) -
01:36:084 - suggestion: http://puu.sh/lBBIl/61195288ea.jpg
01:43:084 (103084|0) - move to 3?
01:48:884 (108884|1,109184|2) - same sugggestion as before
the rest are good
i will give you some more suggestion for this diff if you insterested

[Hard]
perfect, nice job

[Insane]
00:28:884 (28884|0,28950|1,29017|2,29084|3,29150|1,29217|2,29284|0,29350|1,29417|2,29484|3,29550|1,29617|2,29684|0,29750|1,29817|2,29884|3,29950|1,30017|2,30084|0,30150|1,30217|2,30284|3,30350|1,30417|2) - they're 1/8 (as you're follow 1/8 on shd's diff)
02:01:584 - add a note on here, still have bass
02:36:484 (156484|0,156550|1,156617|2,156684|3,156750|1,156817|2,156884|0,156950|1,157017|2,157084|3,157150|1,157217|2,157284|0,157350|1,157417|2,157484|3,157550|1,157617|2,157684|0,157750|1,157817|2,157884|3,157950|1,158017|2) - same reason
02:39:484 (159484|3) - move this to 2 to became jack, would be more nice

[Extra]
00:29:684 (29684|0,29884|1,30084|2,30284|1) - 02:37:284 (157284|0,157484|1,157684|2,157884|1) - maybe just remove those, single 1/8 is more better in this part
00:55:384 (55384|3,55584|1) - swtich these column, for patterns would be more nice
00:57:684 (57684|1) - move to 4, avoid jacks
01:04:084 - how about this: http://puu.sh/lBCx4/803fca0a04.jpg
01:14:084 - seem you missing a long note in here and i suggest you short long notes only: would be nice http://puu.sh/lBCBH/98bb899b14.jpg
02:00:884 - suggestion: http://puu.sh/lBCH5/0922c23797.jpg
02:50:884 (170884|0,170884|2,170884|3,171084|1,171184|0,171184|2,171284|1,171284|3,171484|0,171484|2,171684|3,171684|2,171684|0,171884|1,171984|0,171984|2,172084|1,172084|3,172284|2,172284|0) - etou ...

good map actually
but some patterns i don't quite understand lol
call me again after you done, good luck
Topic Starter
paperlens

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

this map is very good as my opinion, some small suggestions before we get started:

check

1234

[Normal]
01:02:784 (62784|3) - move this to 1, same pitch as 01:02:484 (62484|0) -
00:57:684 - this part all is same pitch: i suggest this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4035669
01:10:084 (70084|0) - move to 2, hard to catch 01:09:484 (69484|0,70084|0) -
01:36:084 - suggestion: http://puu.sh/lBBIl/61195288ea.jpg
01:43:084 (103084|0) - move to 3? - I think now is ok, and that follows the pitch.
01:48:884 (108884|1,109184|2) - same sugggestion as before - same but readjusted a little
the rest are good
i will give you some more suggestion for this diff if you insterested



[Hard]
perfect, nice job

[Insane]
00:28:884 (28884|0,28950|1,29017|2,29084|3,29150|1,29217|2,29284|0,29350|1,29417|2,29484|3,29550|1,29617|2,29684|0,29750|1,29817|2,29884|3,29950|1,30017|2,30084|0,30150|1,30217|2,30284|3,30350|1,30417|2) - they're 1/8 (as you're follow 1/8 on shd's diff) - change to 1/4
02:01:584 - add a note on here, still have bass
02:36:484 (156484|0,156550|1,156617|2,156684|3,156750|1,156817|2,156884|0,156950|1,157017|2,157084|3,157150|1,157217|2,157284|0,157350|1,157417|2,157484|3,157550|1,157617|2,157684|0,157750|1,157817|2,157884|3,157950|1,158017|2) - same reason
02:39:484 (159484|3) - move this to 2 to became jack, would be more nicemaybe too hard for this diff, players need a little rest after the burst. and also be different with SHD

[Extra]
00:29:684 (29684|0,29884|1,30084|2,30284|1) - 02:37:284 (157284|0,157484|1,157684|2,157884|1) - maybe just remove those, single 1/8 is more better in this part
00:55:384 (55384|3,55584|1) - swtich these column, for patterns would be more nice - no because: 1.00:55:484 - drum sound here, should be a bit different on pattern; 2.00:55:684 - this is only really high pitch, should be highlighted
00:57:684 (57684|1) - move to 4, avoid jacks - for this part: I also don't wanna see jacks, but 1/4jack in 150BPM is not really hard on SHD diff, and the pattern now fits music better, so I choose to keep the jack tho I didn't really want it
01:04:084 - how about this: http://puu.sh/lBCx4/803fca0a04.jpg
01:14:084 - seem you missing a long note in here and i suggest you short long notes only: would be nice http://puu.sh/lBCBH/98bb899b14.jpg
02:00:884 - suggestion: http://puu.sh/lBCH5/0922c23797.jpg nice suggestion, but Idk 02:01:634 - have sound here?
02:50:884 (170884|0,170884|2,170884|3,171084|1,171184|0,171184|2,171284|1,171284|3,171484|0,171484|2,171684|3,171684|2,171684|0,171884|1,171984|0,171984|2,172084|1,172084|3,172284|2,172284|0) - etou ... - fixed lol, It's really not a good choice to keep this

good map actually
but some patterns i don't quite understand lol
call me again after you done, good luck

no reply == all fixed
and also readjusted some other pattern


thank you KK XD
updated
tell me any suggestions you have on NM pls!

some big changes, but I can't upload any shits in africa fuckuploaded
Akasha-
well, it's up to you

it's my personal opinions:

[Normal]
00:12:884 (12884|1,13684|1) - move those to 1, for patterns: http://puu.sh/lNPwJ/d57a1b9d94.png
00:32:784 (32784|0) - move to 3, same pitch as 00:32:484 (32484|2) - , sound fun too
00:33:684 (33684|0) - move to 2, same pitch with 00:34:284 (34284|1) -
00:35:984 (35984|0,36884|0) -
00:39:184 (39184|0,40384|0) -
00:42:084 - i suggest this: http://puu.sh/lNPLO/b1740dd281.jpg
00:44:884 (44884|0) - move this to 3, if you follow clap in 1st column, 00:46:884 (46884|0,47384|0) -
00:48:084 (48084|0,48084|2) - remove the note on 1st column, you didn't add 2 notes at before: 00:44:884 -
01:12:684 (72684|0,73084|3) - pitch is wrong, but maybe just keep this, it may cause trouble for the rest of long notes
01:30:284 (90284|0) - move to 2 for balance
01:33:484 (93484|2) - move to 2, for balance, but maybe for pitch to, the distance of 01:33:484 (93484|2,93884|3) - is quite of a bit huge
01:34:484 (94484|1,94884|1,95284|1,95684|1) - for me, follow long note is enough, this one doesn't feel comfortable to play
01:36:084 - http://puu.sh/lNQ3K/57ba964d04.jpg
01:39:884 (99884|1) - 1st column, pitch of the lowest
01:39:884 - (only my opinion) pitch: http://puu.sh/lNQ7d/75589ad823.png
01:43:084 (103084|0) - move to 3
01:46:284 (106284|1) - move to 3
01:47:284 (107284|1,107684|1,108084|1,108484|1) -
01:48:884 - to 02:00:084 - try to do anything related with balance and pitch
02:32:261 - pitch: http://puu.sh/lNQeJ/b23453cf1f.jpg
02:34:225 - jack this, i guess so, same pitch http://puu.sh/lNQfP/767fbb19e0.jpg
02:50:884 - maybe: http://puu.sh/lNQhl/ecc909943a.jpg

well, that's all
remember, it's just my suggestion, feel free to reject all
call me when you done
Topic Starter
paperlens

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

well, it's up to you

it's my personal opinions:

[Normal]
00:12:884 (12884|1,13684|1) - move those to 1, for patterns: http://puu.sh/lNPwJ/d57a1b9d94.png
00:32:784 (32784|0) - move to 3, same pitch as 00:32:484 (32484|2) - , sound fun too
00:33:684 (33684|0) - move to 2, same pitch with 00:34:284 (34284|1) -
00:35:984 (35984|0,36884|0) -
00:39:184 (39184|0,40384|0) -
00:42:084 - i suggest this: http://puu.sh/lNPLO/b1740dd281.jpg
00:44:884 (44884|0) - move this to 3, if you follow clap in 1st column, 00:46:884 (46884|0,47384|0) -
00:48:084 (48084|0,48084|2) - remove the note on 1st column, you didn't add 2 notes at before: 00:44:884 -
01:12:684 (72684|0,73084|3) - pitch is wrong, but maybe just keep this, it may cause trouble for the rest of long notes
01:30:284 (90284|0) - move to 2 for balance
01:33:484 (93484|2) - move to 2, for balance, but maybe for pitch to, the distance of 01:33:484 (93484|2,93884|3) - is quite of a bit huge
01:34:484 (94484|1,94884|1,95284|1,95684|1) - for me, follow long note is enough, this one doesn't feel comfortable to play
01:36:084 - http://puu.sh/lNQ3K/57ba964d04.jpg
01:39:884 (99884|1) - 1st column, pitch of the lowest
01:39:884 - (only my opinion) pitch: http://puu.sh/lNQ7d/75589ad823.png
01:43:084 (103084|0) - move to 3
01:46:284 (106284|1) - move to 3
01:47:284 (107284|1,107684|1,108084|1,108484|1) -
01:48:884 - to 02:00:084 - try to do anything related with balance and pitch
02:32:261 - pitch: http://puu.sh/lNQeJ/b23453cf1f.jpg
02:34:225 - jack this, i guess so, same pitch http://puu.sh/lNQfP/767fbb19e0.jpg
02:50:884 - maybe: http://puu.sh/lNQhl/ecc909943a.jpg

well, that's all
remember, it's just my suggestion, feel free to reject all
call me when you done
except from 1:30 to 2:00, that part I feel is good, I almost accepted everything though maybe repatterned in my own way
thank you very much kk!
updated
Akasha-
everything are fine, map itself is already good, no more problems

Bubbled

Congratulations, good luck in qualification ~
Topic Starter
paperlens

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

everything are fine, map itself is already good, no more problems

Bubbled

Congratulations, good luck in qualification ~
thank you kk! :D
Feerum
Hello paperlens!

Before this get's maybe Qualified by the next Beatmap Nominator i would like to discuss about some Pattern in the SHD

[SHD]

1st one its about these LN's here
00:54:484 (54484|0,54584|1,54684|2,54784|3,54884|1,54984|2,55084|3,55184|0,55284|2,55384|3,55484|0,55584|1,55684|3,55784|2,55884|1,55984|0) -
When i 1st time played this Map these LN's had absolute no sense for me. Also after 2nd and 3rd Time. Even when i check this now in the Editor these LN's still has really no sense. A LN had to follow a Sound to be played right but these LN's don't have and clear sound.
I can clearly hear a Jacksound here but i think Jacks wouldn't fit here too. I tried something and i think something like this fit's here best:

I also asked other, they also told me the LN's doesn't fit here well, they suggest you should jack here like this:

I really highly recommend to change these Pattern.

01:13:684 - These LN's had a really nice flow because we can really hear how to play them. They follow nice the Rhythm and plays smoothly

02:00:884 (120884|2,120934|1,120984|0,121034|3,121084|0,121084|2,121134|1,121184|3,121234|2,121284|0,121334|1,121384|2,121434|3,121484|0,121484|1,121534|2,121584|3) - You have a missing note in this Stream. I clearly can hear the stream should end at 02:01:634 - so you should ad one more 1/8 note.


Yeah thats all i want to mention. I would really like to hear you opinion to this. :)
I really like this Map and would like to see this Qualified & Ranked as soon as possible!
Part 2 is my fav part of these songs :3
Topic Starter
paperlens

Feerum wrote:

Hello paperlens!

Before this get's maybe Qualified by the next Beatmap Nominator i would like to discuss about some Pattern in the SHD

[SHD]

1st one its about these LN's here
00:54:484 (54484|0,54584|1,54684|2,54784|3,54884|1,54984|2,55084|3,55184|0,55284|2,55384|3,55484|0,55584|1,55684|3,55784|2,55884|1,55984|0) -
When i 1st time played this Map these LN's had absolute no sense for me. Also after 2nd and 3rd Time. Even when i check this now in the Editor these LN's still has really no sense. A LN had to follow a Sound to be played right but these LN's don't have and clear sound. - sorry I don't really know how you feels, but those LNs are absolutely good for me. I asked some of my friends, we found that the pattern now may be not really good, and I actually agree with that, so I changed it into another pattern which is my favourite. thank you for gentle advice, I really appreciated it.
I can clearly hear a Jacksound here but i think Jacks wouldn't fit here too. I tried something and i think something like this fit's here best:
sorry but I won't use this kind of pattern, first this pattern doesn't fit the music in my opinion, and I'll always use LN at this part.
I also asked other, they also told me the LN's doesn't fit here well, they suggest you should jack here like this:
I don't mean to be rude, but Using jackhammer in this part will be an absolutely wrong mapping
I really highly recommend to change these Pattern.

01:13:684 - These LN's had a really nice flow because we can really hear how to play them. They follow nice the Rhythm and plays smoothly - thank you for that, I didn't really expect a good response to this to be honest xD

02:00:884 (120884|2,120934|1,120984|0,121034|3,121084|0,121084|2,121134|1,121184|3,121234|2,121284|0,121334|1,121384|2,121434|3,121484|0,121484|1,121534|2,121584|3) - You have a missing note in this Stream. I clearly can hear the stream should end at 02:01:634 - so you should ad one more 1/8 note. - yes you get it there is a 1/8. but I did't really want to add it. the pattern now is not catching that sound. though, the pattern now is indeed not good, I'll consider a new pattern and try to catch that 1/8. Thank you for your opinion.


Yeah thats all i want to mention. I would really like to hear you opinion to this. :)
I really like this Map and would like to see this Qualified & Ranked as soon as possible!
Part 2 is my fav part of these songs :3
thank you for your mod
I'm kind of busy these days, may update later
DanSparce
looking forward for this!!!
good luck paperlens for rank!!!
Feerum
pm me in forum should you still want to rank this.
I'm willing to check this but only if you really want rank this :)
Feerum
Qualify Check



Column: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
======================================================
Red means Unrankable stuff
Big means Important stuff
Normal are Suggestions
// means comments
======================================================

Hello paperlens
I did wait so long for your PM.
Part 2 is the best Part of all these Songs and i'm more than happy to help to move this into Qualify!
Let's begin!

General


Artist: Right!
Title: Right!
Source: Right!
Tags: Right
AiMod: Right!
Background: I found the same background in a higher resolution. (1024x768). Get it here: click
BPM/Offset: Right
mp3/Hitsounds: Right
Other: -

NM

Actually nothing to say <3

HD

01:29:384 (89384|1) - Missing drum hitsound.

Nothing more to complain :3

MX

01:47:584 - Do you have here a note missing? I think so, according to how you mapped here.
Loud melody sound o:

02:23:384 (143384|1,143584|1,143784|1,143984|1,144184|1,144384|1,144584|1,144784|1,144984|1,145184|1,145384|1,145584|1,145784|1,145984|1,146184|1,146384|1) - i really think you overused the column 2 here too much, please try to arrange your notes a little bit.

That's also all here. I really really like this diff

SHD

01:57:884 - Missing note? In MX you have this mapped also loud melody.
02:46:484 (166484|3) - This LN should be 1/4 shorter and end 02:46:584 - .
I know it might look like it should be 1/2 but the other 1/2 LNs here have an 1/2 long sound, this one not.

02:49:684 (169684|0) - same with this one. They are both 1/4 beat too long.

I have nothing more to complain.

I totally in love with this map. It follows so awesome the music and is so well mapped
Apply everything asap and call me back!

Also no kds please, i got already two with my last mod (:
Topic Starter
paperlens

Feerum wrote:

Qualify Check



Column: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
======================================================
Red means Unrankable stuff
Big means Important stuff
Normal are Suggestions
// means comments
======================================================

Hello paperlens
I did wait so long for your PM.
Part 2 is the best Part of all these Songs and i'm more than happy to help to move this into Qualify!
Let's begin!

General


Artist: Right!
Title: Right!
Source: Right!
Tags: Right
AiMod: Right!
Background: I found the same background in a higher resolution. (1024x768). Get it here: click
BPM/Offset: Right
mp3/Hitsounds: Right
Other: -

NM

Actually nothing to say <3

HD

01:29:384 (89384|1) - Missing drum hitsound. - done

Nothing more to complain :3

MX

01:47:584 - Do you have here a note missing? I think so, according to how you mapped here. - done
Loud melody sound o:

02:23:384 (143384|1,143584|1,143784|1,143984|1,144184|1,144384|1,144584|1,144784|1,144984|1,145184|1,145384|1,145584|1,145784|1,145984|1,146184|1,146384|1) - i really think you overused the column 2 here too much, please try to arrange your notes a little bit.
- done
That's also all here. I really really like this diff

SHD

01:57:884 - Missing note? In MX you have this mapped also loud melody. - I followed different sound in MX and SHD: MX mainly drum double, and SHD=1/1double+melody double.
02:46:484 (166484|3) - This LN should be 1/4 shorter and end 02:46:584 - .
I know it might look like it should be 1/2 but the other 1/2 LNs here have an 1/2 long sound, this one not. - you are right, also slightly changed the pattern here.

02:49:684 (169684|0) - same with this one. They are both 1/4 beat too long. - done

I have nothing more to complain.

I totally in love with this map. It follows so awesome the music and is so well mapped
Apply everything asap and call me back!

Also no kds please, i got already two with my last mod (:
thank you feerum XD
also recheck this part in SHD pls : 02:00:884 - ;
this part in MX : 02:08:884 - ;
these pattern are scaring, so I remapped

updated
Feerum
Alright!
Finally!!

Qualified

I really love this map. Really fun pattern!
Topic Starter
paperlens

Feerum wrote:

Alright!
Finally!!

Qualified

I really love this map. Really fun pattern!
thank you feerum! :D
Akasha-
Finally congrats
IamKwaN
Why isn't the title Identity part 2? if you have something official using Identity Part II as the title, please let me know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwkpJfpycJY
https://soundcloud.com/soundholick/shk-identity-part-2
Topic Starter
paperlens

IamKwaN wrote:

Why isn't the title Identity part 2? if you have something official using Identity Part II as the title, please let me know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwkpJfpycJY
https://soundcloud.com/soundholick/shk-identity-part-2
http://o2jam.wikia.com/wiki/Identity_part_II please
both are ok
so I just follow https://osu.ppy.sh/s/304831 as I II III IV V
btw https://osu.ppy.sh/s/8911
and also http://www.o2mania.com/4_Download/6_O2j ... 000408.htm though not really offical
IamKwaN
I don't think that wiki is official?

Ranked maps can be wrong, don't quote them.

The wiki shows Identity part II ..
Topic Starter
paperlens

IamKwaN wrote:

I don't think that wiki is official?

Ranked maps can be wrong, don't quote them.
then if you think you are right, you can DQ this and I reQ
IamKwaN
Yea, please replace the title with Identity part 2.
Sandalphon
wait... from the offical album “Game Music Collection (O2jam OST SHK Collection)” is written as part II
let me find the offcial album website...
Ayachi-
ㄏㄏ欸
Akasha-
both titles are fine
there is no strict for both
Soul Evans
people these days and their qualified maps getting Kwan'd, makes me a little nervous about my meta-data

or else i will get kwan'd
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paperlens
so which one is right :D

Soul Evans wrote:

people these days and their qualified maps getting Kwan'd, makes me a little nervous about my meta-data

or else i will get kwan'd
btw I love your avatar Soul Evans
IamKwaN
find me the official album track list and then i can requalify this map

Soul Evans wrote:

people these days and their qualified maps getting Kwan'd, makes me a little nervous about my meta-data

or else i will get kwan'd
yea because i believe im the only QAT who check maps on my own accord nowadays, as we rely on people's reports before taking down maps since the change to the QAT
SpectorDG
"II" "2" both are fine lmao

first rank is SHK - Identity Part III . . .
Akasha-
By in-game: Idenity part II



By album: Identity part.II



(http://soundholick.com/xe/?document_srl=615)

By image (made by SHK): Idenity part.2



Again, i'm totally confused right now
Topic Starter
paperlens
btw http://blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blog ... egoryNo=88 SHK's blog it shows "Identity Part.II"
IamKwaN
change to one of those below and then poke me if you need me~

Identity Part.II
Identity part II
Identity part 2
Identity part.2
Akasha-
title should have dot nearby "part" or "Part"
IamKwaN
i am okay with everything listed above, leave him to choose probably
Topic Starter
paperlens

IamKwaN wrote:

i am okay with everything listed above, leave him to choose probably
all ok now
Identity part.II
after our discuss that seems most appropriate
ReQualify pls if you think that's good
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