CelsiusLK wrote:

ok

crazy mapper fort

Loctav wrote:

Can someone explain me the reasoning of choosing this background picture? maybe it is some reference I truly don't get

Loctav wrote:

but what's with that Party Hard thing? is that really neccessary?

Loctav wrote:

I find it questionable to turn mapping and actual in-game content mostly around "jokes", running gags or other general idiocity lately. Don't want to be the fun police, but I would rather ask for actual quality content then for tryharding to be funny at every inch a day.

It's probably fine, if it's not dominating the entire content we have here.

I still disagree with the BG tho, mostly because of the utterly retarded pseudo-meme caption that doesn't make much sense in my head.

Xexxar wrote:

[Game Over]

01:18:972 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2) -

I am, 100% against this mapping. This is not capturing the music, this mapping can be applied to any song and it would be the same. Why on earth did you ignore ever single bit of rhythmic variety in 1/4ths? You literally spamed 1/2 jumps and forgot the idea of actually trying to map to the song.

Zare wrote:

Loctav wrote:

but what's with that Party Hard thing? is that really neccessary?

The entire map is a joke, did you listen to the "hitsounds"? The BG goes well with those. Before complaining about the BG which is indeed questionable I would take a look at the map itself.

Xexxar wrote:

[Game Over]

01:18:972 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2) -

I am, 100% against this mapping. This is not capturing the music, this mapping can be applied to any song and it would be the same. Why on earth did you ignore ever single bit of rhythmic variety in 1/4ths? You literally spamed 1/2 jumps and forgot the idea of actually trying to map to the song.

Anxient wrote:

game over
01:34:528 (1,2,3,4) - why? theres very powerful/noticeable 1/4s here. i checked the last 7 pages (up to 7 months ago to make sure i didnt miss anything)

btw i just wanna ask, why isnt there any 1/4s in the kiai? there are plenty of opportunities to place 1/4s, especially on a ultra style diff like this. well dont get me wrong its super fun to play, but it sorta looks like a jump training map lol

also mapping is kinda messy for the whole map but that might be just me (pretty sure it isnt tho ;w;). like it has jumps everywhere just coz its a "Game Over" diff. *looks at Highscore* >.>

Fezu wrote:

Loctav wrote:

Can someone explain me the reasoning of choosing this background picture? maybe it is some reference I truly don't get

It's a reference to Kantai Collection, Ooi and Kitakami are paired together because the real world ship counterparts were paired together a lot too, they were on same missions together, they got retired together. So they became a yuri pairing and then later fans turned it into obsession for both sides.

Loctav wrote:

but what's with that Party Hard thing? is that really neccessary?

Wafu wrote:

I need to agree here. Honestly, I don't see much sense in that "Party Hard" thing, like okay it would maybe fit to the song, but the image doesn't make sense. Graphically, it is quite a low quality, you can see it's quite pixelated and the drawing skill isn't really much attractive. Apart from that, a girl (whose head is cut off) tickling another girl is not much related to "party hard" text, tickling has nothing to do with party in my opinion.

But so I don't only complain about the background, it's way too much a troll. Yes, I mapped a troll song too, but the way it would make sense. Putting "meme sounds" for hitsounds without any context is just not sane anymore and doesn't make the map more fun, but just more troll. Rather than focusing on funny hitsounds, maybe there should be more focus on sane and logical hitsounds. Replacing soft-hitfinish30 should definitely be done, it is very noisy and choppy. 01:44:528 - part sounds very messy when it comes to hitsounds.

Map quality is nothing big either, minimal relation to music and almost repetitive star patterns don't improve it much.

Monstrata wrote:

i don't care for your single meme :>

you're not mazzerin who map crazy deathstreams in every maps he made
you're not Ekoro who mapped Time Freeze with extra effort
you're not lesjuh who made a good map in 2009
you're not val0108 who made a really stylish sliders map
you're not hanzer who made a stream with a jump
you're not me who map a crazy fullscreen jumps
you're not Haruto who map Hexagons

im waiting for epic qualified posts in here (and waiting people who can pass this map without NF or HT)

nice ending btw

Haruto wrote:

Monstrata wrote:

i don't care for your single meme :>

you're not mazzerin who map crazy deathstreams in every maps he made
you're not Ekoro who mapped Time Freeze with extra effort
you're not lesjuh who made a good map in 2009
you're not val0108 who made a really stylish sliders map
you're not hanzer who made a stream with a jump
you're not me who map a crazy fullscreen jumps
you're not Haruto who map Hexagons
you're not SnowNiNo who map Rabbit's jumps meme

im waiting for epic qualified posts in here (and waiting people who can pass this map without NF or HT)

nice ending btw

Timorisu wrote:

Please note that I am referring to the Ranking Criteria definition of overmapping (which in this case is an unrankable issue)

00:55:639 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Overmapped it is?? 25% it + consistency with 00:11:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
00:57:861 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Overmapped it is??
01:00:083 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapped it is??
01:00:778 (7,8,9,10) - Overmapped it is??
01:02:306 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapped it is??
01:03:417 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Overmapped it is??
01:04:528 (1,2) - Undermapped? Missing a note 1/2 after 2 i map vocal?
01:06:750 (1,2) - Undermapped? Missing a note 1/2 after 2 i map vocal?
01:12:028 (3) - Waddup with this emtpy section? hitsounding? turn on hitsound
01:18:972 (1) - This whole part is very meh. Emphasis on all the wrong beats and all the wrong places. Seems very random. wrong so i don't follow kick and snare and some 1/2 beats then?
01:36:750 (1) - Overmapped..? slider have zero leniency so it's just hold slider
01:37:236 (5) - Overmapped hitsounding makes it doesn't overmapped
01:37:583 (7) - Overmapped..? same answer
01:37:861 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - OVERMAPPEDWHATTHEFUCK i feel like there is small amount of 1/4 sound on that part so i map 1/4
01:44:528 (1,2) - Why not just 1/2 jumps? because i like sliders
01:46:750 (1,2) - Why not just 1/2 jumps? because i like sliders

..meh stop hating me

Monstrata wrote:

(and waiting people who can pass this map without NF or HT)

Fort wrote:

astagfirullah

Timorisu wrote:

Please note that I am referring to the Ranking Criteria definition of overmapping (which in this case is an unrankable issue)

00:55:639 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Overmapped
00:57:861 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Overmapped
01:00:083 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapped
01:00:778 (7,8,9,10) - Overmapped
01:02:306 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapped
01:03:417 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Overmapped
01:04:528 (1,2) - Undermapped? Missing a note 1/2 after 2
01:06:750 (1,2) - Undermapped? Missing a note 1/2 after 2
01:12:028 (3) - Waddup with this emtpy section?
01:18:972 (1) - This whole part is very meh. Emphasis on all the wrong beats and all the wrong places. Seems very random.
01:36:750 (1) - Overmapped..?
01:37:236 (5) - Overmapped
01:37:583 (7) - Overmapped..?
01:37:861 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - OVERMAPPEDWHATTHEFUCK
01:44:528 (1,2) - Why not just 1/2 jumps?
01:46:750 (1,2) - Why not just 1/2 jumps?

..meh

Fort wrote:

astagfirullah

stop hating me

Timorisu wrote:

Fort wrote:

astagfirullah

stop hating me

I don't hate you
I just think that a lot of stuff is pretty overmapped in the highest diff :/

PatZar wrote:

before commenting other maps, and if you want to commenting this map, you should comment this too https://osu.ppy.sh/b/727903 , wise thinking pl0x

and if you think this a overmapped mapset/difficulty, then why the firetruck those guy got FC??

Fort wrote:

I don't hate you
I just think that a lot of stuff is pretty overmapped in the highest diff :/

Fort wrote:

the story when osu + BG = serious business

Wafu wrote:

Putting "meme sounds" for hitsounds without any context is just not sane anymore and doesn't make the map more fun, but just more troll. Rather than focusing on funny hitsounds, maybe there should be more focus on sane and logical hitsounds. Replacing soft-hitfinish30 should definitely be done, it is very noisy and choppy. 01:44:528 - part sounds very messy when it comes to hitsounds.

Map quality is nothing big either, minimal relation to music and almost repetitive star patterns don't improve it much.

Xexxar wrote:

If you delete the notes and listen to the sections he pointed out on 25%, there are no 1/4ths present. What he pointed out is indeed correct.

PatZar wrote:

and if you think this a overmapped mapset/difficulty, then why the firetruck those guy got FC?? germany being germany

Xexxar wrote:

PatZar wrote:

before commenting other maps, and if you want to commenting this map, you should comment this too https://osu.ppy.sh/b/727903 , wise thinking pl0x

and if you think this a overmapped mapset/difficulty, then why the firetruck those guy got FC??

clearly you dont know what you're talking about.

the beats that were pointed out are indeed examples of overmap and undermapping. Streams that do not exist in music are there, and streams that do exist in the music are not. Just because someone has gotten an FC makes no difference on whether or not this fact is true. Please inh the future refrain from insulting someone on the forums as this is not the place for that.

Fort wrote:

I don't hate you
I just think that a lot of stuff is pretty overmapped in the highest diff :/

it's overmapped because the hitsound volume too high, probably i hear 1/4s in there

Wafu wrote:

Fort wrote:

the story when osu + BG = serious business

So basically, you are saying that because you consider the reasoning stupid, it is not a deal. Everything what is part of map is serious business, or else we wouldn't have rules like "Don't use NSFW backgrounds" if background image didn't matter. I complained about hitsounds too, I don't get why'd you just skip it by answering other part of my post. It would be cool if the answer wasn't just "fun" or comparing to things that are not related, try to focus on what reasons were raised and raise your argument against them, jumping out of those arguments doesn't help.

Wafu wrote:

Putting "meme sounds" for hitsounds without any context is just not sane anymore and doesn't make the map more fun, but just more troll. Rather than focusing on funny hitsounds, maybe there should be more focus on sane and logical hitsounds. Replacing soft-hitfinish30 should definitely be done, it is very noisy and choppy. 01:44:528 - part sounds very messy when it comes to hitsounds.

Map quality is nothing big either, minimal relation to music and almost repetitive star patterns don't improve it much.

This was not adressed at all and that argument cannot be broken easily, you skipped it though. Making random hitsounds doesn't make sense, we don't need more maps full of memes for the reason I explained. The soft-hitfinish30 is just poor quality sound that should be replaced under any circumstances, it sounds really bad and you can notice it's choppy even during gameplay.

Xexxar wrote:

If you delete the notes and listen to the sections he pointed out on 25%, there are no 1/4ths present. What he pointed out is indeed correct.

Exactly. Hitsounds volume are not even related to it, the Fort's argument doesn't seem relevant here.