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Nitrous

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Nitrous 2016-06-12T21:01:28+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
let me contribute to this =3=

General

Uh...well... the spread is a bit unbalanced between Hard and Akitoshi's Insane. A 1.70* gap is a bit too much, considering the spacing on the Insane. My suggestion is to increase spacing on the Hard, since the Normal should be able to make up for it anyway.
Actually, after checking the Normal too, it looks like this mapset needs an extra diff in-between Hard and Insane, since Normal and Easy look pretty consistent in the spread.

There is no video on the za's Anti-Love diff

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Hard

00:04:896 (4,1) - Uh, the flow could be better here imo. Why not keeping the circular flow dictated by the slider shapes? (It's also easy to re-arrange the following circles)

00:09:548 (1) - something's off with this slider lol. Check your SV please

00:29:389 (1) - I'm just triggered by that bad overlap tbh lol. What about moving this circle to around 160;151?

00:37:749 (1,2,3) - again, I would have followed the circular flow dictated by the slider shapes. I find the current directions a bit forced

00:39:040 (5,6) - waho, this big spacing out of the blue is really something. Considering you didn't break DS even a single time this spacing feels inappropriate. Add a NC if you really want to keep the jump

01:03:138 (2,3) - do not ignore the white ticks like that, it's really uncomfortable to play after you gave the right emphasis till now.
Option: 01:03:138 - circle; 01:03:302 - 1/2 slider; 01:03:630 - circle

01:15:761 (1,2,3) - such good circular flow goes to waste here ;w;

01:26:253 (1,2) - not really a big problem, but a 2 measures repeat slider feels way too long, even for such low difficulty. 1 measure each is more appropriate imo.
Generally, I find the SV being a bit too high compared with the Distance Spacing used for this map. As I mentioned in the General section, you should increase spacing here.
Nice hitsounds tho, I should learn from it.

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Normal

00:10:208 (1) - missing finish here?

00:17:749 (4) - I would remove finish from this tho

00:24:471 - I would add a circle here, since your diff is way too easy right now
00:27:094 - same

00:31:192 (3,4,1) - flow is a bit uncomfortable imo. Can you rotate 00:31:848 (4) - a little so the slider bosy isn't opposing totally to the movement to the next circle?

00:34:963 - add circle?

00:35:127 (1) - wild NC appears. Actually, you should remove 00:36:110 (1) - this one lol

00:40:023 (5) - missing clap?

00:37:586 - add circle?
00:41:499 - same
00:46:744 - same

00:50:843 (1,2) - instead of the clap, use a drum-hitnormal on those slider ends

00:52:154 (3) - whistle instead of clap

00:56:089 (1) - missing finish
Overall this diff needs way more notes. It's too easy.
If you notice you literally have a 1/1 spam of notes + some seldom 1/2 beats at the start of the map.

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Easy

00:38:405 (2) - instead of clap I would use a normal-hitnormal

00:53:466 (1) - missing whistle on head?

01:18:384 (1,3) - switch NC on these 2 and remove NC from 01:21:007 (1) -

00:41:662 (1,2) - NC goes on 2

01:26:253 (2) - this shape can be improved. Like this (just bring those waypoints a bit more to the bottom)
00:19:389 - 00:28:569 - this section should be less dense than the rest of the map imo

Call me if you need clarifications or further suggestions =w=/
PS: I don't know why I had your map in my "to mod" list, but I guess an extra mod doesn't hurt =3=

I added more notes on red ticks in Normal in some places to keep the rhythm consistent. It suited well. Thanks!
As for Hard, please ignore that random SV I totally didn't notice that. I'm keeping the DS the same though. Unless I make up my mind
As for Easy, not much issues huh. I keep my map's flow consistent and I add notes where there are downbeats so I didn't remove any specially at the beginning.
As for adding a new diff... I'll think about it.

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-06-13T06:07:08+00:00

NO KD

mind providing the metadata source? especially that 'TV Size' thing
za's Anti-Love
missing video
00:10:208 - you didn't fix this :c just delete the green line and set the volume of the red line to 40%, i know it doesn't make much sense but please understand
00:45:597 (1,2) - and here, i see no reason why not stack them while you did on 00:50:843 (1,2) - this
00:55:269 (3,4,5) - hey it's still not fixed as well :c, or the change you made was too small, i think you need to give up the blanket
01:27:565 (9) - how about removing the finish since i feel it doesn't fit

nothing more to say, i'll let it go after you fix the issues above

about spread, it's not supposed to be judged by sv or star rating blabla, it depends on the gameplay, and i feel this mapset has a not bad spread sooooo pole me back again.

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2016-06-13T06:13:32+00:00

Not sure title. delete "TV Size"
Check here.

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-06-13T07:33:39+00:00

Since I usually try to avoid Amazon I did a little search myself too.

from http://www.oreshura.net/music/

It should be good to go I guess.. ?

Nitrous

1,206 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Nitrous 2016-06-13T07:38:08+00:00

Metadata Updated! Removed "(TV Size)" and moved it to tags.
The rest of the metadata doesn't have issues.

Zallies

499 posts

Joined April 2015

Zallies 2016-06-13T12:35:58+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
let me contribute to this =3=

za's Anti-Love

00:10:209 - make sure both timing sections have the same volume Yes MR. S

00:17:258 (2,3,4,5,6) - the circular flow is a bit sloppy there, above all if I go checking the rest of the map ahead. What about this ?

00:29:389 (2) - finish instead of whistle maybe? (drum sampleset) Try w/out music, you'll hear the hitsound
00:39:204 (2) - same ^

00:45:351 (2) - I can't really hear this note tbh How to?

00:45:597 (1) - I would rather have a default soft finish here. It fits far more nicely it its the default...

00:52:483 (2,4) - I bet you can avoid that overlap /w\

00:56:089 (1) - again, default soft finish feels way better

00:55:761 (4,5) - try replacing the current claps with the default normal-hitnormal its bad LMAO

01:03:958 (1) - missing drum clap? hitfinish and drum clap are cannot be together ;_;

01:06:417 (4,5) - default soft whistle? + 01:06:581 (1) - default soft finish on head Fixed

01:11:007 (4) - I'd move this to around 136;284. You didn't put a break here, and that's fine, but the gian spacing on this weak note feels too off right now.

01:13:302 (3) - stack on 01:13:794 (2) - maybe? The flow feels a bit uncomfortable since you break the rhythm on the white tick with 01:12:974 (2) -

01:14:450 (1) - forgot drum clap on head? same here
Overall it is a nice diff, but hitsounding can be done way better imo.
Mostly, you use too many drum samples and the hitsounding feels heavy. Where I suggested defaul soft whistles or finishers was to make you try something different, hoping you will go over the map and revice the whole hitsounding.
Obviously, it's not a big issue, but as I said, it can be done better.

Call me if you need clarifications or further suggestions =w=/
PS: I don't know why I had your map in my "to mod" list, but I guess an extra mod doesn't hurt =3=

Karen wrote:
NO KD

mind providing the metadata source? especially that 'TV Size' thing
za's Anti-Love
missing video
00:10:208 - you didn't fix this :c just delete the green line and set the volume of the red line to 40%, i know it doesn't make much sense but please understand Sorry, fixed
00:45:597 (1,2) - and here, i see no reason why not stack them while you did on 00:50:843 (1,2) - this ahh then fixed
00:55:269 (3,4,5) - hey it's still not fixed as well :c, or the change you made was too small, i think you need to give up the blanket
01:27:565 (9) - how about removing the finish since i feel it doesn't fit Fixed

nothing more to say, i'll let it go after you fix the issues above

about spread, it's not supposed to be judged by sv or star rating blabla, it depends on the gameplay, and i feel this mapset has a not bad spread sooooo pole me back again.

From Mr.Segio, default normal-hitnormal I dont think it sounds very well since I have the hitsounds custom. Thanks for the Hitsounds, although I was wondering why any modders dont mod hitsounds e__e
From Karen, 00:55:269 (3,4,5) - id understand at this patterns ill pm you and fix other patterns
Soo I'm the only left.. Soon it will get bubbled

Thanks for the MODS!

za's Anti-**** 3.4

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Karen

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Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-06-14T15:16:47+00:00

Alright then, i respect your choice xD, bubbled.

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

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Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-06-14T16:02:40+00:00

hypu desu

Yuii-

2,503 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2016-06-14T21:08:29+00:00

After a short discussion with MrSergio we found out that the timing is clearly off. Piano is off. Vocals are off. After some chat with a couple of modders, we reached the conclusion that this needs further improvements on timing. I am not an expert on this, but I'd say the beginning should be 2.605/6 and. Then, around the third redline ( 00:10:209 - ) it's off by 10 ms. And later on, exactly on the Kiai is, once again, off. 00:39:532 (3) - This one is off, too.

So yeah, it would be really nice if you could contact someone to help you push this timing problem forward!
Good luck with that I guess, call me back if you need assistance with this.

Sotarks

3,493 posts

Joined May 2014

Sotarks 2016-06-14T21:24:20+00:00

Ow sick

Nitrous

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Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

Nitrous 2016-06-15T01:26:48+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
After a short discussion with MrSergio we found out that the timing is clearly off. Piano is off. Vocals are off. After some chat with a couple of modders, we reached the conclusion that this needs further improvements on timing. I am not an expert on this, but I'd say the beginning should be 2.605/6 and. Then, around the third redline ( 00:10:209 - ) it's off by 10 ms. And later on, exactly on the Kiai is, once again, off. 00:39:532 (3) - This one is off, too.

So yeah, it would be really nice if you could contact someone to help you push this timing problem forward!
Good luck with that I guess, call me back if you need assistance with this.

~~Rip me. I'll fix this once I get back~~

I did a run through several times of timing checks.
The timing points on 00:09:535 - and 00:10:190 - are adjusted.
I tried to find out whats off here 01:01:335 - and here 00:39:531 -
~~I did playtesting, asked other people and listened to the metronome. I really doubt how its off.~~
I removed those two extra timing points from here 00:39:042 -

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Quite Cynical

109 posts

Joined September 2013

Quite Cynical 2016-06-15T09:03:08+00:00

edit: using akitoshi's instead~

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Nitrous

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Topic Starter

Nitrous 2016-06-15T09:20:09+00:00

Quite Cynical wrote:

hello irc timing check (lovely map btw)

016-06-15 18:39 Quite Cynical: want me to just send you an updated ver and see if you like it?
2016-06-15 18:39 -Nitrous: sure thing
2016-06-15 18:46 Quite Cynical: http://puu.sh/ptpmx/8d17b3d7f3.osu
2016-06-15 18:46 -Nitrous: thanks
2016-06-15 18:47 Quite Cynical: be sure to fix the green lines up
2016-06-15 18:47 Quite Cynical: only fiddles with the redlines
2016-06-15 18:47 Quite Cynical: *fiddled
2016-06-15 18:47 -Nitrous: sure thing
2016-06-15 18:54 -Nitrous: looks like it needs less timing points than it used to
2016-06-15 18:55 Quite Cynical: sound all good?
2016-06-15 18:56 -Nitrous: still doing a run
2016-06-15 18:56 -Nitrous: but it looks much better than before
2016-06-15 18:59 -Nitrous: looks good. I'll be using it. Thanks!

Had quite a debate on timing. Looks like I'll be using what Akitoshi provided. Sorry!

Karen

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Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-06-15T10:30:31+00:00

Rebubbled

edit: reb

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Akitoshi

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Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-06-15T10:49:14+00:00

There's many weird things on this world zz.
Yes I mapped as Insane on Guest and Bubbled is already weird

Nitrous

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Nitrous 2016-06-15T11:09:38+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
There's many weird things on this world zz.
Yes I mapped as Insane on Guest and Bubbled is already weird

It took me a while to figure out what you meant.
What I don't get is that whats weird?

EDIT:
Missing Video on za's Anti-Love
Darn, that was embarrassing...

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-06-15T12:14:15+00:00

Normal memes

Well maybe the reason of za's video is always missing when you update with his code is he didn't downloaded with video lol

and hey Karen let's play dota :VVVVVVV

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Yuii-

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Yuii- 2016-06-15T12:53:08+00:00

Still hearing the first offset completely off. It's way too clear on 00:07:174 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this section.
As for the last red line, try adjusting the offset to 54.777 or . Yes, it's only 2~4 ms, yet I think it sounds more accurate. Just get someone else to confirm.

I guess one of the reasons everyone placed a spinner on that section is because it's hard to time it properly.

EDIT: On Normal 01:07:894 (4) - this is extremely borderline. Almost offscreen. Not completely, though. Would be nice if you could curve it a bit to avoid issues with other resolutions.

Nitrous

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Nitrous 2016-06-15T13:33:03+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
Still hearing the first offset completely off. It's way too clear on 00:07:174 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this section.
As for the last red line, try adjusting the offset to 54.777 or . Yes, it's only 2~4 ms, yet I think it sounds more accurate. Just get someone else to confirm.

I guess one of the reasons everyone placed a spinner on that section is because it's hard to time it properly.

EDIT: On Normal 01:07:894 (4) - this is extremely borderline. Almost offscreen. Not completely, though. Would be nice if you could curve it a bit to avoid issues with other resolutions.

Should've considered the 4:3 resolutions...
Also, Karen mentioned it too. I'll fix it as soon as possible.

EDIT: The mp3 I used is from an existing ranked beatmap so I used its offsets. I can't clearly point out whats off in the first offset.
as for Normal, it doesn't go off screen. Same thing goes to Akitoshi's Insane. Unless there are other aspect ratios that I'm not aware of. I only tested it on 16:9 and 4:3 resolutions.

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Zallies

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Zallies 2016-06-19T13:19:36+00:00

suk mai vid

Zallies

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Zallies 2016-06-19T13:20:08+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
Normal memes

Well maybe the reaon of za's video is always missing when you update with his code is he didn't downloaded with video lol

and hey Karen let's play dota :VVVVVVV

YES.

Nitrous

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Nitrous 2016-07-14T12:04:24+00:00

Fixed That Reoccuring Timing Issue

Yuii- wrote:
After a short discussion with MrSergio we found out that the timing is clearly off. Piano is off. Vocals are off. After some chat with a couple of modders, we reached the conclusion that this needs further improvements on timing. I am not an expert on this, but I'd say the beginning should be 2.605/6 and. Then, around the third redline ( 00:10:209 - ) it's off by 10 ms. And later on, exactly on the Kiai is, once again, off. 00:39:532 (3) - This one is off, too.

So yeah, it would be really nice if you could contact someone to help you push this timing problem forward!
Good luck with that I guess, call me back if you need assistance with this.

popped ~desu

Thanks alot zeroallies, Akitoshi, Nelka714, MrSergio and Yuii-

Karen

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Karen 2016-07-14T12:29:49+00:00

Rebubbled.

Nitrous

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Nitrous 2016-07-14T13:27:27+00:00

Applied a quick check. Fixed certain timing points.

Karen

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Karen 2016-07-14T14:01:06+00:00

^

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2016-07-30T16:32:51+00:00

Good mapset, but are these red timing sections really needed?

Nitrous

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Nitrous 2016-07-30T23:20:26+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
Good mapset, but are these red timing sections really needed?

Yuii- wrote:
Try 2.610 for first red line.
50.849 for third red line.

http://puu.sh/q1nQC/5833b39638.png I could also find 2 .mp3 files.
http://puu.sh/q1nXc/c4ae45f4f6.png Tell zeroallies to fix the sampleset on the red lines. Both red/green lines should match in volume/sampleset.
http://puu.sh/q1o0N/72c537cc2a.png Same goes to your Hard.

As always, ask for a timing check for the offsets I gave you BEFORE applying changes.

~from my Inbox

Yuii- wrote:
After a short discussion with MrSergio we found out that the timing is clearly off. Piano is off. Vocals are off. After some chat with a couple of modders, we reached the conclusion that this needs further improvements on timing. I am not an expert on this, but I'd say the beginning should be 2.605/6 and. Then, around the third redline ( 00:10:209 - ) it's off by 10 ms. And later on, exactly on the Kiai is, once again, off. 00:39:532 (3) - This one is off, too.

So yeah, it would be really nice if you could contact someone to help you push this timing problem forward!
Good luck with that I guess, call me back if you need assistance with this.

Yuii- stated that the timing section starting from 50.849 is 10ms off. The last timing section reverts the 10ms offset change.

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2016-08-01T02:38:26+00:00

Alright, that's all I wanted to know. I can push this mapset forward if you're ready.

Nitrous

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Nitrous 2016-08-01T04:12:00+00:00