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18:24 Anxient: yOOOo
18:24 Anxient: are you free
19:48 Kocari: uhhh
19:48 Kocari: define free
19:48 Kocari: and what is it
19:48 Anxient: map check
19:48 Anxient: so i can bug kibby
19:48 Kocari: Too much work tho
19:48 Kocari: unless its easy
19:48 Anxient: i dont think evanescent would be "easy"
19:48 Anxient: asdf
19:49 Kocari: I know
19:49 Kocari: I saw ait yesterday
19:49 Anxient: how was it>
19:49 Anxient: i dont know how kibbleru works
19:49 Kocari: there's some things that would be worked around but its ok
19:49 Anxient: i saw his u.page and he was liek "talk to kocari first before coming to me"
19:49 Kocari: If I would ask I'd ask Touhou
19:49 Anxient: im like wh ok
19:49 Anxient: to-who?
19:49 Kocari: Touhou
19:50 Kocari: my friend
19:50 Anxient: whos that
19:50 Kocari: He'll really rip you a new one
19:50 Anxient: hed force me to remap? ;w
19:50 Kocari: no
19:50 Anxient: so how do i approach Kibby after approching you
19:51 Kocari: That's up to you to determine
19:51 Anxient: well
19:51 Anxient: ill just show him this chatlog
19:51 Kocari: Life is about making hard decisions
19:51 Anxient: and say that you think that its okay
19:52 Anxient: if i get this wrong ill probably get blacklisted :^)
19:52 Anxient: ah well
19:52 Kocari: it's up to you to persuade me that you have the power to ask him
19:52 Anxient: so back to topic, is evanescent rank-ready?
19:53 Kocari: no
19:53 Anxient: woa
19:53 Kocari: for only a 6 star map
19:53 Kocari: There are some stuff that can be changed
19:53 Anxient: such as?
19:53 Kocari: Patterns that lead into other patterns
19:53 Anxient: i have a feeling you wont show me which ones
19:54 Kocari: alright
19:54 Kocari: I'll find something
19:58 Kocari: Like this stuff
19:58 Kocari: 00:40:959 (2,3) -
19:58 Kocari: 00:41:433 (2,3) -
19:58 Anxient: whats wrong with those?
19:58 Kocari: It's nothing wrong with it
19:58 Kocari: I just feel its stopping movement too much
19:59 Anxient: so i should use the same spacing as the regular streams (.75x)?
19:59 Kocari: The angle is what's weird about playing it
19:59 Anxient: the slider shape?
19:59 Kocari: generally I would see it as this http://puu.sh/p6vMe/34feedf591.jpg
20:00 Kocari: so you don't have to make a quick turn to then play linearly
20:00 Anxient: huh really?
20:00 Kocari: http://puu.sh/p6vPD/fb535d01e7.jpg
20:01 Kocari: even stacking it seems beter
20:01 Kocari: but if you want to keep yours playing the same
20:01 Kocari: making it diagonal plays better
20:01 Anxient: mm
20:02 Anxient: seems to work a bit better
20:02 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6vSP/150a836287.jpg
20:04 Kocari: ye
20:04 Anxient: ook
20:05 Kocari: 00:56:512 (1,2) -
20:05 Kocari: also mentioned somewhere on BN test
20:05 Anxient: ok
20:05 Anxient: fixed
20:05 Anxient: huh?
20:05 Kocari: angle movements like this may be weird to play for others
20:06 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6w5d/088f1be876.jpg
20:06 Anxient: fixed
20:06 Kocari: ayy
20:06 Kocari: lmao
20:06 Anxient: lmao
20:06 Kocari: what do you think of this
20:06 Kocari: 00:56:985 (1) -
20:07 Anxient: its overdone isnt it
20:07 Kocari: its not overdone
20:07 Kocari: the slider one doesn't fit
20:07 Kocari: or what the shape is compared to 00:56:670 (3,4) -
20:07 Kocari: and ctrl+G works better
20:07 Kocari: to even out spacing
20:08 Anxient: oh snap
20:08 Anxient: its a different shape
20:08 Anxient: btw if i moved (2) here
20:08 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6wcc/a686697a45.jpg
20:09 Anxient: would it be better
20:10 Kocari: ye
20:10 Anxient: ye
20:11 Kocari: 00:58:248 (2,3,4) -
20:11 Kocari: Doesn't quite flow into the triplet
20:12 Kocari: even if it is a snap
20:12 Anxient: gotcha
20:12 Kocari: you're reuiqred to move so much more just to hit it
20:12 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6wot/aed2d0f41e.jpg
20:12 Anxient: fixed
20:12 Anxient: 00:57:775 (1) - should i continue combo btw
20:13 Kocari: random stuff like this http://puu.sh/p6wsT/27dae0576e.jpg
20:13 Kocari: yeah
20:13 Kocari: you can
20:14 Anxient: okk
20:16 Anxient: this is fine tho right 00:59:827 (4) - btw if youre gonna make a comment about this i moved it to the left side http://puu.sh/p6wz9/39ed1bf23c.jpg
20:18 Kocari: I would say its ok
20:18 Kocari: doesn't look good being played but its ok
20:18 Kocari: since the song is moving so fast some of these patterns dont feel as great
20:19 Kocari: and what was that image you showed me
20:19 Kocari: for which parts
20:19 Anxient: huh?
20:19 Anxient: which one
20:19 Anxient: changed it to a straight slider btw coz it looks less derp
20:20 Anxient: as for the one in the previous im
20:20 Anxient: g
20:20 Anxient: 00:58:090 (1,2) -
20:20 Kocari: k
20:21 Kocari: 01:03:143 (1,2) - like this
20:21 Kocari: you could've made it simple to to relate to the song
20:21 Kocari: but instead it has a 4.0 spacing and unncessary movements
20:21 Anxient: gotcha
20:21 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6wPK/88ca2ceeae.jpg
20:22 Kocari: nice
20:22 Kocari: 01:06:301 (2) -
20:22 Kocari: doesnt match which what you have
20:22 Kocari: this is kinda strange to play
20:23 Anxient: what do?
20:24 Anxient: mm
20:24 Anxient: will this work better? http://puu.sh/p6wWR/f548f74cb2.jpg
20:24 Anxient: 01:06:143 (1,2) -
20:24 Kocari: keep it the same spacing as the previous one
20:24 Kocari: staying consistent wouldnt be so bad
20:25 Anxient: is the solution i came up with okay?
20:25 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6x0j/1d8e0cadff.jpg
20:25 Kocari: it's too close
20:26 Kocari: like do something with rotation
20:26 Kocari: http://puu.sh/p6x0P/aa8b1cad45.jpg
20:26 Kocari: just something random
20:26 Kocari: but its something for you to start an idea
20:27 Anxient: mm
20:27 Anxient: how about this? http://puu.sh/p6x4N/dc46c97860.jpg
20:27 Kocari: what's under that 1
20:27 Kocari: usually try to show the whole thing
20:28 Anxient: 3
20:28 Kocari: so I can see what the timing signature looks like as well
20:28 Anxient: okk
20:28 Anxient: sec
20:28 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6x7F/6db51b745f.jpg
20:30 Kocari: usually the ideal spot for (3) would be somewhere in the middle
20:31 Anxient: how about this then? http://puu.sh/p6xfh/4931e964ec.jpg
20:32 Kocari: we'll leave it for now
20:32 Anxient: okk
20:32 Kocari: because changing the pattern there
20:32 Kocari: wouldnt hurt
20:32 Kocari: next is 01:07:090 (2) -
20:33 Anxient: 01:08:669 (1,2,3) - can i assume that youll say the same thing for this?
20:33 Kocari: yeah
20:33 Anxient: ok
20:33 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6xmp/3c10f65aed.jpg
20:33 Anxient: like this?
20:33 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6xnN/b9e7d96553.jpg
20:33 Kocari: nice nice
20:34 Kocari: mine was like thishttp://puu.sh/p6xou/b931eb8b16.jpg
20:34 Kocari: try moving (4) a little close as well
20:34 Anxient: mm works either way?
20:34 Anxient: ;d
20:34 Kocari: it's a little far
20:34 Kocari: yeah
20:34 Kocari: works either way
20:34 Anxient: mm http://puu.sh/p6xqu/3b77856c8a.jpg
20:35 Kocari: ye
20:35 Kocari: what do you think about moving this closer
20:35 Kocari: the distance kept on getting larger around here
20:35 Kocari: but the SV shows the song actually slowed down
20:36 Kocari: so making it closer correlates that
20:36 Kocari: but what do you think
20:36 Anxient: wdum?
20:36 Anxient: about 4?
20:36 Anxient: i agree with moving it closer coz the song gets weaker and stronger constantly during this part
20:37 Kocari: fir tgus ibe 01:07:880 (2) -
20:37 Kocari: damn one key over
20:37 Kocari: moving this closer
20:37 Anxient: what
20:37 Kocari: as well
20:37 Anxient: ok
20:37 Anxient: mm
20:37 Anxient: im gonna take a risk http://puu.sh/p6xyE/5bc1e00d68.jpg
20:38 Kocari: It was better the way it was kek
20:38 Kocari: It was only your c hoice
20:38 Kocari: because it was ok being there
20:38 Kocari: even thought spacing was slighjtly high
20:38 Kocari: I mean 7.0 spacing is wow
20:38 Anxient: ok
20:38 Anxient: then its staying
20:38 Kocari: k
20:38 Anxient: well in my defence
20:38 Anxient: that part is super emphasized
20:39 Anxient: 01:07:248 (3) - moving this a bit closer btw
20:39 Kocari: its fine the way it is
20:39 Anxient: 01:08:827 (2) - http://puu.sh/p6xDb/8ae83db5dd.jpg
20:39 Kocari: it didn't cause troubles playing it
20:39 Kocari: and it felt nice
20:39 Kocari: emphasized the part rather nicely
20:40 Kocari: I figure you got this part fixed 01:08:669 (1,2) -
20:40 Anxient: yep
20:40 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6xGQ/ae5d1c8356.jpg
20:40 Anxient: 01:08:669 (1,2,3) -
20:41 Kocari: but how does (1) play better off of 01:08:511 (4) -
20:41 Anxient: well i could make it at stop motion http://puu.sh/p6xLh/ecb1104e5e.jpg
20:42 Kocari: something simple http://puu.sh/p6xNl/38496ae649.jpg
20:43 Anxient: huh
20:43 Anxient: like this then? http://puu.sh/p6xQc/159e773585.jpg
20:44 Kocari: that'll do
20:44 Kocari: usually in harder diffs
20:44 Kocari: straight sliders are what makes things pop
20:44 Kocari: nc is weird here no? 01:09:301 (1,1) -
20:44 Anxient: huh
20:44 Anxient: whoops
20:45 Kocari: then there's thiss 01:09:933 (1,2,3) -
20:45 Kocari: you can guess what I can say here
20:47 Anxient: lmao
20:47 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6y17/eab7ddfdfc.jpg
20:48 Kocari: yeah that deems better
20:48 Kocari: 01:10:722 (1) - you can stack this note 01:10:722 (1) -
20:48 Kocari: woops
20:48 Kocari: then spacing inconsistency 01:10:880 (2,1) -
20:48 Kocari: the 1/2 points one way then the next note plays the other way
20:49 Kocari: feels bad man
20:49 Anxient: mm
20:49 Anxient: if i stack it it looks dumb
20:49 Anxient: ;w;
20:49 Anxient: but ill make it look less dumb http://puu.sh/p6y6u/ca676cb61c.jpg
20:49 Kocari: that's fine
20:49 Kocari: but (2) needs to be changed
20:50 Anxient: ok
20:50 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6y8D/a4629d6afd.jpg
20:58 Kocari: got it?
20:59 Anxient: mm
20:59 Anxient: a long time ago?
20:59 Anxient: i was waiting for you ;w; http://puu.sh/p6yx6/0dacb52601.jpg
20:59 Kocari: Yeah
21:00 Kocari: but I said that the way this plays needs to be changed 01:10:880 (2,1) -
21:00 Anxient: you did?
21:01 Anxient: how does this work? http://puu.sh/p6yBJ/170ba1d8b0.jpg
21:01 Kocari: it wont play as well
21:01 Kocari: but (1) is nicer
21:02 Kocari: these two will be the problems if you moved it like that 01:11:275 (2,1) -
21:02 Kocari: try this ismple way http://puu.sh/p6yGD/c28b8cf38d.jpg
21:02 Kocari: you can stack the note with the slider
21:03 Kocari: and then move the next set closer
21:03 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6yI5/ae90cc8975.jpg
21:03 Kocari: http://puu.sh/p6yIq/9a13e814e2.jpg
21:03 Anxient: like this?
21:03 Kocari: would be absolutely phenomenal
21:04 Anxient: oh snap
21:04 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6yLk/6690c42b3c.jpg
21:04 Anxient: remade the next part so it wont log as shit http://puu.sh/p6yLV/8b3c00f459.jpg
21:04 Anxient: 01:11:590 (2,1,2) -
21:05 Kocari: ok
21:05 Kocari: I'll check the update once its done
21:05 Kocari: next
21:05 Kocari: 01:12:143 (2) -
21:05 Anxient: ok
21:05 Kocari: spacing is too close
21:06 Anxient: yep
21:06 Anxient: i noticed
21:06 Kocari: also NC is strange 01:12:301 (1,1,1) -
21:06 Anxient: any better? http://puu.sh/p6yQB/284615d602.jpg
21:06 Anxient: fixed NC
21:06 Kocari: whats the distance
21:06 Kocari: for it
21:07 Kocari: generally 1.4-1.6 is ideal
21:07 Anxient: 1.33
21:07 Kocari: that'll be ok
21:07 Kocari: ok the next stuff
21:07 Kocari: here we go
21:08 Kocari: I'd be caareful with this
21:08 Kocari: 01:15:775 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
21:08 Anxient: moved 01:12:143 (1,2,3) - so that it becomes 1.40
21:08 Kocari: this can be translated into a stream
21:08 Kocari: no matter how you make this it'll always seem like a stream if they are this close
21:08 Kocari: ktgster did it pretty nicelt
21:08 Anxient: so how?
21:08 Anxient: ;c i think itll be a good challenge?
21:09 Kocari: but its a 6 star map
21:09 Kocari: this is more technical
21:09 Kocari: mapping
21:09 Kocari: than challenging
21:10 Anxient: so how :c
21:10 Anxient: i really like this
21:10 Kocari: space it out a bit
21:10 Anxient: space out?
21:11 Anxient: nothing feels right ;w;
21:11 Anxient: help?
21:12 Kocari: do what ktgster slightly does
21:12 Kocari: he does it actually really well
21:12 Anxient: ill come back to you
21:12 Anxient: a blister popped
21:13 Kocari: I feel your pain
21:15 Anxient: ok
21:15 Anxient: lets see it
21:16 Anxient: is it okay if i leave mine as is?
21:16 Anxient: :c
21:17 Anxient: besides if people listened to the song while playing it (which im sure they are) they wont stream the entire part
21:17 Anxient: im sure of it
21:18 Kocari: yeah sure
21:18 Anxient: okk
21:18 Kocari: you can nc these parts
21:18 Kocari: to give a bigger effect of change 01:18:933 (1,2,3) -
21:19 Kocari: and this 2 note NC is kinda meh 01:18:459 (1,2) -
21:19 Kocari: you can undo and keep them the same
21:19 Anxient: NC spam right?
21:19 Kocari: it's not NC spam
21:19 Kocari: it brings out the change better
21:19 Kocari: you can tell that to Taeyang who had the same NC spam
21:19 Kocari: but he won elite mapper
21:20 Kocari: if you NC to utlize effects
21:20 Anxient: mm
21:20 Kocari: muah it's perfect
21:20 Anxient: like this then? http://puu.sh/p6zs5/f5db3877a1.jpg
21:20 Anxient: Taeyang?
21:20 Kocari: `yeah
21:20 Kocari: good friend of mine
21:20 Kocari: the guy who won the last mapping contest
21:20 Anxient: mhm
21:20 Anxient: candy luv right
21:20 Kocari: more like this http://puu.sh/p6zu4/1a55764ead.jpg
21:20 Kocari: yeah
21:20 Anxient: all i have is hate for that song :p
21:21 Anxient: ook
21:21 Anxient: applied
21:21 Anxient: 21 days to aspire closing doe
21:21 Kocari: meh
21:21 Kocari: doesnt bother me
21:22 Kocari: movement to this might be kinda weird
21:22 Kocari: 01:19:564 (1,1,2,3) -
21:22 Kocari: woops had one too many 1
21:22 Kocari: 01:20:512 (1,2,3) -
21:23 Kocari: since the previous ones pointed straight down
21:23 Anxient: what do?
21:24 Anxient: about about this? http://puu.sh/p6zCW/56b02f8963.jpg
21:24 Kocari: something as easy as this will work http://puu.sh/p6zDF/59af3344e8.jpghttp://puu.sh/p6zDF/59af3344e8.jpg
21:24 Kocari: keeping in touch with the stack streams you have
21:25 Anxient: i wanna keep it moving doe
21:25 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6zG4/c140aa4d6e.jpg
21:25 Kocari: but then you got this
21:25 Kocari: 01:21:143 (2,3,4,5,1) -
21:25 Anxient: :L
21:26 Kocari: =)
21:26 Kocari: we'll leave that part for you to decide for now
21:26 Kocari: ayyy 01:23:985 (1,1,1) -
21:26 Kocari: nice
21:27 Anxient: ok
21:27 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6zJU/7190235718.jpg
21:27 Anxient: 01:24:459 (2) - removed N
21:27 Anxient: C
21:27 Anxient: wait
21:27 Kocari: why
21:27 Anxient: im dumb
21:27 Kocari: wat
21:27 Kocari: WAT
21:27 Kocari: its good
21:28 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6zMy/d67758d8f3.jpg
21:28 Anxient: ??
21:28 Kocari: hitting the stream might be weird though
21:28 Kocari: 01:24:617 (1) -
21:28 Anxient: or is it better like that?
21:28 Anxient: actually nvm im keeping
21:28 Anxient: carry on
21:28 Anxient: :L
21:29 Kocari: it rapidly builds here 01:32:512 (3,4,1,2,3) -
21:29 Kocari: and it
21:29 Kocari: is quite tight when playing
21:29 Kocari: feels squeezed
21:30 Kocari: you can change the way this hits 01:32:512 (3) -
21:30 Kocari: http://puu.sh/p6zT2/6fed0d9150.jpg
21:31 Anxient: 01:31:880 (1,2,1) - but i want the back and forth?
21:31 Anxient: how about this? http://puu.sh/p6zW1/75ae313566.jpg
21:32 Kocari: still would be the same
21:32 Kocari: the only option if you want a back and forth
21:32 Kocari: would be to stack the triplet
21:32 Kocari: or make the 1/2 point directly into the triplet
21:32 Kocari: or make it behind the note http://puu.sh/p6zZ6/8ff3271b98.jpg
21:34 Anxient: i dont understand how stacking the triplet would help doe
21:34 Anxient: ill put (2) up there and see how it goes
21:34 Anxient: you can review my changes once i update
21:34 Kocari: ok
21:34 Kocari: here 01:36:301 (2) -
21:35 Kocari: this note is placed weird 01:40:722 (3) -
21:35 Kocari: it feels more here http://puu.sh/p6A62/84602a462b.jpg
21:35 Kocari: ideally the slider leads in to be hit that way
21:35 Kocari: since this part is rather a simple sound
21:36 Anxient: gotcha fam
21:36 Kocari: see how you did a triplet here 01:43:880 (4,2,3,1) -
21:36 Anxient: this is okay right
21:36 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6A9v/be10b2d3f0.jpg
21:36 Kocari: but slightly far spacing
21:36 Kocari: k
21:37 Anxient: 01:35:985 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/p6Aan/4fdbdb35e6.jpg
21:37 Kocari: NC here is strange
21:37 Kocari: 01:47:196 (1,1) -
21:37 Kocari: and you must be some type of snapping god to hit that stream
21:38 Anxient: how about this?
21:38 Anxient: http://puu.sh/p6Aep/614d7ecc62.jpg
21:39 Kocari: we'll leave it at that for now
21:39 Kocari: even though it's not the best
21:39 Anxient: what would you have done?
21:40 Anxient: i did this http://puu.sh/p6Ajm/99287ee0fe.jpg
21:41 Anxient: and made the jumps have more weight http://puu.sh/p6AjV/0f221fb17c.jpg
21:42 Kocari: me
21:42 Kocari: I wouldve done it like this http://puu.sh/p6AmM/e0d523c0de.jpg
21:42 Anxient: ok
21:42 Anxient: is the shape i got okay too?
21:43 Kocari: shapewise sure
21:43 Kocari: but if it's being hit
21:43 Kocari: then no
21:44 Anxient: huh really?
21:44 Kocari: yeah because the 1/2 is pointed downwards
21:44 Kocari: even though the back and forth movement is cool
21:44 Kocari: hitting it and playing it
21:44 Kocari: is another story
21:44 Anxient: cant i just use slider leniency?
21:45 Kocari: it wouldn't help
21:45 Kocari: either way
21:45 Kocari: other than that
21:45 Kocari: its ok
21:46 Kocari: still needs some more mods
21:46 Kocari: not yet ready for a bubble
21:46 Kocari: though
21:46 Anxient: rip
21:47 Kocari: ask people
21:47 Kocari: specifically for this diff
21:47 Kocari: and have more testplays
21:47 Anxient: yea ik
21:47 Kocari: have
21:47 Anxient: is the other diffs?
21:47 Kocari: other diffs
21:47 Kocari: are good
21:47 Anxient: mm
21:47 Anxient: ok
21:47 Kocari: ask Atheon
21:47 Kocari: Gidz
21:48 Anxient: so the issue is this diff being a dub fk
21:48 Kocari: and lower ranked players
21:48 Kocari: to testplay for you
21:48 Anxient: ill upd8 it now
21:48 Kocari: k
21:48 Kocari: I'll have someone test play for you now
21:48 Kocari: he's part of my slavery system
21:48 Kocari: once its done updating
21:48 Anxient: slavery..?
21:48 Anxient: upd8d
21:49 Kocari: yeah
21:49 Kocari: everyone is my minion
21:49 Anxient: the same way xexxar slaves me for hard diffs?
21:49 Kocari: xexxar is my slave too
21:49 Kocari: hes part of my library
21:49 Anxient: wh WHAT
21:49 Kocari: I have many slaves
21:49 Anxient: i have a feeling i will soon be your slave
21:49 Anxient: wtf
21:49 Anxient: ##notproenuf##
21:49 Kocari: right after this
21:49 Kocari: someone asks me for testplay
21:50 Kocari: ok let me testplay real quick
21:50 Kocari: Kinshaba
21:56 Kocari: ok
21:56 Kocari: lets ask this man for testplay
21:57 Kocari: ok he acceepete
21:57 Kocari: lets watch
22:00 Kocari: chat in spectator
22:00 Anxient: i told you that part would be fine :x