02:16 The Fetish: Change HP
02:16 The Fetish: KDS pls
02:16 The Fetish: Mod over
02:16 Shiirn: yeah well uhhhh
02:16 Shiirn: what connection can this track POSSIBLY have with anything
02:17 The Fetish: Something about cherry blossoms idk
02:17 Shiirn: the poem is about the yearly cherry blossom flowering
02:17 The Fetish: Unless I go into detail btw Im just asking questions
02:17 The Fetish: 00:08:980 (1) - Like why is this overlapped
02:17 The Fetish: Im hurtin
02:17 Shiirn: ok
02:17 Shiirn: beause im lazy
02:17 Shiirn: moved 2
02:18 The Fetish: Actually its fun pointing out stuff like that
02:18 The Fetish: Then bad modders cant find anything :^)
02:18 The Fetish: 00:22:826 (1,2,1) - Im not feeling the emphasis here
02:19 The Fetish: Like that 1 is very strong but its so close to the 2
02:19 Shiirn: moved 2 to be shorter, it's 1/1 but honestly whatever fuck it
02:19 Shiirn: moved 1 and 2
02:19 Shiirn: lel
02:19 The Fetish: We crusin'
02:19 The Fetish: 00:29:364 (1) - Similar here, higher pitch needs a tad more spacing dont you think?
02:19 The Fetish: Helps spice it up
02:20 Shiirn: done
02:20 Shiirn: 00:32:441 (1) - i might make this spinner 5% volume to 25% over its duration
02:20 Shiirn: if i stop being lazy
02:20 The Fetish: 00:46:480 (1) - K we actually need to discuss here
02:21 The Fetish: For the record this is fine as is
02:21 The Fetish: I feel we can improve though
02:21 Shiirn: mmm
02:21 Shiirn: what do you want to discuss about it
02:21 The Fetish: Fist suggestion is to actually move all the sliders over 2 ticks
02:21 The Fetish: And start with a circle
02:22 Shiirn: i feel like the offbeat slider patterning is extremely good
02:22 Shiirn: no
02:22 Shiirn: not happening
02:22 The Fetish: That way the slider heads are on the stronger notes
02:22 Shiirn: offbeat is the entire point of them
02:22 Shiirn: it fits the ringing VERY well
02:22 The Fetish: Fair
02:22 The Fetish: Other would be to swap out every other slider for 2 circles
02:22 Shiirn: the whole concept of "clicks need to be on strong beats" is amateur
02:22 Shiirn: the sensation of playing an offbeat slider is extremely different from onbeat
02:22 The Fetish: It just felt off to me while I played it
02:22 The Fetish: Like I said its fine
02:22 Shiirn: and the whole "ringing of the bell" noise
02:23 The Fetish: What about the 2 circles idea
02:23 Shiirn: fits the offbeat 'vaguely weird' feel of offbeat playing
02:23 The Fetish: Or is it just the same
02:23 Shiirn: two circles would be too dense
02:23 The Fetish: aight
02:23 The Fetish: Fair
02:23 Shiirn: like i hope i'm making sense here but
02:23 The Fetish: I wouldnt have said its fine if I couldnt understand both sides
02:23 Shiirn: i'm mapping for a specific feeling for the player, not necessarily following the beats exactly because that's booooring as fuck
02:24 Shiirn: and that's the case for the offbeat sliders for the entirety of the map btw
02:24 The Fetish: D00d
02:24 The Fetish: Its fine
02:24 The Fetish: Chill =w=
02:24 Shiirn: i'm just
02:24 Shiirn: explaining myself in entirety
02:24 Shiirn: im done tho
02:24 The Fetish: 00:54:749 (3) - Pls spacing
02:24 Shiirn: more?
02:24 Shiirn: ok
02:25 The Fetish: 01:01:672 (1,1) - Didnt these used to be spaced?
02:25 The Fetish: I think that was better
02:25 Shiirn: they did but
02:25 Shiirn: it feels so weird no matter how i space them
02:25 The Fetish: If anything I always thought it was too little
02:25 The Fetish: May as well just leave it for now
02:26 Shiirn: ye
02:26 The Fetish: 01:13:980 (1,2) - Circles here but sliders 01:20:133 (1,2) - Here?
02:26 The Fetish: Im assuming because lower pitch
02:26 The Fetish: Or just variety
02:27 Shiirn: a little of column B, plus the fact that having the 3/4 sliders to begin with would read VERY weird
02:27 Shiirn: but when you see the first combo you know the next pair are 1/1 apart
02:27 The Fetish: 01:32:057 (1,2,3) - Now this is a little too nbig for my taste
02:27 Shiirn: o.o
02:27 The Fetish: 01:38:787 (2) - Offbeat Kreygasm
02:28 Shiirn: ye
02:28 Shiirn: offbeat mofokas
02:28 Shiirn: onbeat is boring as shit and doesn't fit this track at all
02:28 The Fetish: 01:40:903 (1,2,3) - Space equally
02:28 The Fetish: Just for tidyness
02:28 Shiirn: aye yo
02:28 The Fetish: So they form a triangle, you know
02:28 Shiirn: gone
02:28 Shiirn: done
02:28 Shiirn: what ew no
02:28 Shiirn: fuck triangles
02:29 The Fetish: Nah you know what I mean
02:29 Shiirn: its more even now
02:29 The Fetish: Its down a tiny little bit
02:29 The Fetish: On the 3
02:30 The Fetish: 01:57:057 (1) - For the love of all that is holy
02:30 The Fetish: http://puu.sh/pkKDZ/03f4515ed7.jpg
02:30 The Fetish: Can you just
02:30 The Fetish: Tidy pls
02:31 Shiirn: i am
02:31 The Fetish: 02:08:980 (7) - I think you should split this up
02:31 Shiirn: like
02:31 Shiirn: i said
02:31 Shiirn: i did
02:31 The Fetish: Into pairs
02:31 The Fetish: Like stack this on the slider head
02:31 Shiirn: you mean move 7 up?
02:31 The Fetish: Yeah
02:31 Shiirn: i get u
02:31 Shiirn: k
02:31 The Fetish: Cause thats where the kick is
02:31 The Fetish: Or the jump in sound I should say
02:32 The Fetish: Or maybe a little above the head
02:32 The Fetish: So you get a downward motion into the slider
02:32 The Fetish: Might be kewl
02:32 Shiirn: i got
02:32 Shiirn: u
02:32 Shiirn: its
02:32 Shiirn: dont
02:32 Shiirn: done
02:32 The Fetish: Dont
02:32 The Fetish: 02:14:172 (1,2,3,1) - I had issues with this the first couple runs
02:33 Shiirn: not my problem
02:33 The Fetish: Theres no 1/6th anywhere else and its very similar to the previous 1/4 triple so as an introduction its slightly missleading
02:33 Shiirn: there is
02:33 Shiirn: actually
02:33 The Fetish: o am I blind
02:33 Shiirn: 02:26:480 (3,4,5,1) -
02:33 Shiirn: 02:27:249 (3,1,2) -
02:33 Shiirn: well that ones a slider
02:33 The Fetish: I meant there isnt any before
02:34 The Fetish: Those are fine because you expect them after the first
02:34 Shiirn: there's always gotta b e a first time
02:34 The Fetish: Yeah but Id usually use a repeat for a first
02:34 The Fetish: Or obvious spacing
02:34 The Fetish: Cause the way you repeat the pattern as well makes you assume you're gonna be playing the same thing multiple times
02:35 The Fetish: It catches you off guard
02:35 Shiirn: combo color change and ar should be enough
02:35 The Fetish: Yeah that you can get away with
02:35 The Fetish: 02:15:326 (6) - Ehh not sure about this being a slider
02:36 The Fetish: More spciy doubles into a jump would be nice
02:36 The Fetish: Then again leading out the slider might make that difficult
02:36 The Fetish: w/e you wanna do
02:36 Shiirn: having a triple there
02:37 The Fetish: 02:17:730 (3) - Surprised you didnt do more with this
02:37 Shiirn: destroyed a lot of playtests
02:37 Shiirn: it felt REALLY weird
02:37 The Fetish: Fair
02:37 The Fetish: Why skipping the sounds here tho
02:37 Shiirn: oh
02:37 Shiirn: ok ill make it a 1/8 wibbly wobbly slider
02:37 The Fetish: Spicy
02:37 The Fetish: Sounds like its just 2 1/4 sliders
02:38 The Fetish: 02:23:883 (3) - Isnt this like
02:38 The Fetish: Wait
02:38 The Fetish: Shouldnt it be a circle on the blue then a weird 1/8th repeat or something
02:38 The Fetish: 1/12 1/16 w/e it is
02:38 Shiirn: plays like ass
02:39 The Fetish: ur ass
02:39 Shiirn: dude
02:39 Shiirn: i dont want this map
02:39 Shiirn: to be stpid hard from gimmicks
02:39 Shiirn: :(
02:39 The Fetish: Well you couldve kept it as 1/4
02:39 The Fetish: I just think it needs something on the blue
02:39 The Fetish: Anyways moving on
02:40 Shiirn: its following the same pattern
02:40 Shiirn: as the other parts do
02:40 The Fetish: 02:28:307 (2) - Why ingnoring the white tick on the tail?
02:40 Shiirn: i find the wub is more fun to emphasize than the white tick on the tail.
02:40 The Fetish: Fair
02:40 Shiirn: It's not like anyone is actually paying attention to the kicks in this section
02:40 Shiirn: It's all in the wuuu-wu-WUUUUUUB
02:41 The Fetish: 02:29:749 (2) - Probably same reason as before but Id have circle into slider
02:41 Shiirn: same reason 02:29:845 - is ignored
02:41 Shiirn: people care too much
02:41 Shiirn: about kicks
02:41 Shiirn: its sad
02:41 The Fetish: Nah this is just my personal opinions
02:41 The Fetish: Dont bully me
02:41 Shiirn: btw
02:42 Shiirn: while you're going over all this
02:42 Shiirn: im going over and fixing all my hitsounds and smoothing them out
02:42 Shiirn: lol
02:42 The Fetish: Modding hitsounds zzz
02:42 The Fetish: 02:40:133 (1,2) - Holy blanket
02:42 The Fetish: My eyes
02:42 Shiirn: im doing it to myself
02:42 Shiirn: SHUT UP
02:42 The Fetish: F U N
02:42 The Fetish: 02:42:874 (1) - Holy shit is this right?
02:43 The Fetish: Wow it is
02:43 The Fetish: Thats cancer on the songs part
02:43 Shiirn: IT'S 100% RIGHT
02:43 The Fetish: Yeah thats dumb
02:43 The Fetish: No wonder I kept getting 100's there
02:43 Shiirn: i cant really do anything about it other than end a slider there and that's what i like to call PUSSYING THE FUCK OUT
02:44 The Fetish: Yeah
02:44 The Fetish: Hey guess what
02:44 The Fetish: 02:49:364 (1) - Overlap :^)
02:44 Shiirn: with what
02:44 Shiirn: dont care
02:44 The Fetish: 02:55:710 (2,1) - I may struggle to explain why this plays weird for me
02:45 Shiirn: i know why
02:45 Shiirn: fixed
02:45 The Fetish: But uhh, you snap back to the 1 then carry on in the same direction but obviously you chanve to change speed
02:45 The Fetish: Yeah was just gonna say you need a different angle for the 2 to the 1, and the 1 to the 2
02:46 The Fetish: 02:57:826 (1,2,3) - Is this new?
02:46 The Fetish: I dont remember it
02:46 Shiirn: that's been there since ym first draft
02:46 Shiirn: LOL
02:46 The Fetish: zzz
02:46 The Fetish: Im forgetful
02:46 *Shiirn shrugs
02:46 Shiirn: it's a forgettable section
02:46 The Fetish: Well, now you have backup if anyone says its hard to read or whatever
02:46 The Fetish: So easy I forgot it :^)
02:47 Shiirn: that feel when
02:47 Shiirn: a friend who only occasionalyl comes online
02:47 Shiirn: comes online and immediatly starts playing cherry blossoms
02:47 The Fetish: 02:58:595 (1) - Space imo
02:47 The Fetish: Wow stalker
02:48 Shiirn: ehhhhhh
02:48 Shiirn: i think spacing is fine
02:48 The Fetish: 03:01:864 (1) - Offbeat Kreygasm
02:48 The Fetish: 03:07:441 (1,2,3) - I normally dont care about stuff like this but the spacing is annoyingly uneven
02:50 The Fetish: 03:07:441 (1,2,3) - Have it so these are evenly spaced?
02:50 The Fetish: And any other if there are some
02:50 Shiirn: its good tho shut up
02:51 Shiirn: i will cure this community of its "click the circles to the 1/1 or 1/2 beat" addiction if it fucking kills me
02:52 The Fetish: 04:52:441 (1,2) - Im disappointed these dont have the same upwards spike as the previous combo
02:52 The Fetish: Feels a little off
02:53 *Shiirn shrugs
02:53 Shiirn: moved a bit
02:53 The Fetish: Doubt Ill find anything else
02:53 The Fetish: I like this last part
02:53 The Fetish: Other than me thinking its ugly but thats standard for me =w=
02:54 *Shiirn kicks
02:54 Shiirn: :c
02:54 The Fetish: 06:03:210 (1,1,1,1) - Fucking windows mouse click
02:54 The Fetish: Cant unhear
02:55 The Fetish: 06:17:633 (3) - Wheres my spicy shiirn slider for this weird sound
02:55 The Fetish: 06:18:595 (1) - Uhh here you end on slider but next one is circle
02:56 The Fetish: Enlighten me
02:57 The Fetish: 06:35:518 (1) - With the way this last combo went this spacing might be a little too much
02:57 The Fetish: Sudden pause but not much distance for it
02:57 The Fetish: 06:38:210 (4,1) - This one is much better
02:57 The Fetish: 06:44:749 (1) - Wow this one is actually pretty clever
02:57 The Fetish: gg
02:58 Shiirn: im confused
02:58 Shiirn: ok
02:58 Shiirn: fine
02:58 The Fetish: Just more spacing on the one I complained about
02:58 The Fetish: k done
02:58 The Fetish: Noice map
02:59 Shiirn: haaaah
02:59 Shiirn: post for kmd
02:59 The Fetish: Jesus this took 40 minutes
02:59 The Fetish: I usually write 3 mods in 30