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_handholding 2016-05-16T18:34:41+00:00

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:
lets talk about this thing

[easy]
I might say that this is not like an Easy, it's more like a Normal. Lots of objects start on a red tick, and they are totally avoidable. If im the mapper i might change the diffname from Easy/Normal to Normal/Advanced, so that can fit the real difficulty more. I kind disagree, just because there are red ticks doesnt mean it's complex. It's mostly full of 3/2 and 1/1 sliders

00:17:633 (2) - slightly offscreen. just move it a little bit and you can get away from troubles. fixed

00:30:080 (2) - I'll recommend you to make it reverse once, there's a vocal behind there. That's also good for simplifying the beat.
00:41:888 - just a note, you almost ignored all of the vocals in this part, while you kept them emphasized in higher diffs. It's still fine but you lost a huge opportunity on making diversity and simplifying the beats. This is also the reason why I think it's more like a Normal diff. I dont get what you mean here
01:22:759 - 01:32:972 - I don't think go all along with 1/1 sliders is a great idea. As a part of ending, you can try to make it similar to your intro. added more circles
[normal]
same as your Easy imo. It's too repetitive, though it's pretty easy I still can't see anything different here.

00:52:101 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - didn't you notice that might cause reading problems? Or you did get some testplayers at that level for it?
01:15:100 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - comparing to the rest of your map, this combo is extremely longer. for the overall difficulty, I think the length like 00:34:229 (1,2,3,4,1) - is long enough for this diff. Probably need to nerf one note.
I'm actually gonna remap my Normal or at least big parts of it. I'll take oonboard your suggestions whilst doing it

[insane]
00:31:197 (2) - so the flow plays like stuck, and I'm wondering why you didn't just stack it on the next slider for a fancy pit-stop I never thought to stack them. Plays well too
00:40:293 (5,6) - Ctrl+G so you wont crunch your right hand by a square jump? Changed up the jump pattern but avoided the squarish style jump like you said
00:43:803 - not sure about the triangle cuz the vocal is not 3 times in a row. but at least i can be sure it will be better to start the NC here. Changed the triangle and NC pattern to match
[august]
00:18:591 (4) - idc what you're going to make here, maybe you just want it to become technical, but anyway there's no reason for you to put such a thing here. nothing support this flashback sharp straight pattern. tl;dr lift this slider up lol I was just mapping for patterns, raised slider a bit
00:25:931 (5) - I recommend a vertical slider here. yh vertical probs would be better, changed
00:44:920 (2,1) - so is this a mistake or? i didn't see any DS like this on every similar patterns. If not, then explain why they are here. Im so stupid, I misread the combo numbers orz Thnx for catching this, no else said anything Oo
01:01:057 (4,5) - no background samples, just pure voice. keep moving your cursor might not be the best choice here. I tried decrease DS as well as the angles
01:25:951 (3) - i suppose you missed an NC here. Yh I did, nice catch, thnx

thnx for the mod

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-05-16T20:38:27+00:00

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:
[sergio]
extreme sergio style Do I have a style? *^* Nice

please make your hp lower. As a light insane, it might deserve that hp, but the health recovering is obviously not balanced when there's no NC spam. reduced to 5,5

01:39:355 (1,2) - why don't you make the slider first so you won't waste the drum there? Also, if this change is applied, maybe you can stack 01:39:036 (5,6) - together so you can get an awesome burst for your ending finisher. uh, you do have a point here. I didn't really swiotched them, since it was a bit awkward, but I used 2 sliders instead and it should be fine now

thanks :3

UPDATE

Sylphi

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Sylphi 2016-05-17T05:12:05+00:00

Nephroid wrote:
M4M for your queue:

[Ufw's Hard]
Replay: http://puu.sh/oSQM5/009f900f99.osr

00:22:420 (2) - I think the NC should be on the pickup. No change for consistency.
00:23:697 (2) - 00:26:250 (3) - etc - ^ Same as above.
01:32:972 to 01:39:674 - Changing hitsound volumes would make cymbals sound better. I'll consider about this.
01:40:791 - The map feels like it ended early. Drum sound(?) is ended on there.

[]
Good luck!

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:
lets talk about this thing

[ufw]
this thing is kinda familiar to me lol
nice, im impressed

please fix the timing points. Fixed
probably shift your hp down for balancing Changed to 4.5.

01:13:823 (1,2,3) - obviously this jump is too large. I understand that you want it to go across the slider, but you dont really need to move that far for it. the current DS dropped some consistency around here because of the vocal. take a look at 01:19:249 (2,3,1) - and you might want to make some changes. Maybe no problem because it is in kiai time.

Thanks for modding :3

Ufw's Hard

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_handholding

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Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-05-17T10:47:33+00:00

Updated both GDs

I added some new bgs if you want to change them

Aia

181 posts

Joined October 2013

Aia 2016-05-17T11:52:12+00:00

m4m hello

[Easy]

01:27:866 (1,2,1) - These three sliders felt a bit out of place to me since it's the only time you did something like this even when the sound stayed the same.
01:39:993 (4,1) - I would just make this one slider to avoid doing 1/2 repeat sliders on easy difficulties, and on the normal diff it felt easier than this one.

[Insane]

00:48:192 (5,1) - Here I'm suggesting to make this look a bit nicer like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5175481 or you could just stack them under the tail.
00:57:208 (1) - Same for this one, would move it closer to the tail so it looks better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5175483
00:58:405 (5,1) - Also for this one you could do it like I mentioned in my first point and then adjust the notes that come afterwards, but it's your choice to do or not do any of these.

[August]

00:48:910 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would NC all the jumps like this up to 4 instead of 2, don't feel like the spam is necessary
00:21:144 (5,6,7,8,1) - Would like to see this stream have more of a curve, like this maybe? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5175510
00:28:484 (3,4,1) - This overlap really doesn't look that good.
01:32:334 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - This stream doesn't look good at all, I'm sure you can make it look better just like all the other streams in the map.

That's all, sorry for the small mod.. hope it helped at least a little.

alacat

osu! Alumni

3,872 posts

Joined May 2011

alacat 2016-05-23T16:45:37+00:00

M4M

[General]

Tags : Yoshida Sumire Umemura Hinako Yamauchi Aina Kurosaka Yukako 吉田菫梅村妃奈子山内あいな黒坂優香子

[Easy]

00:50:824 (2) - add a drum-finish or clap to the tail ?
01:40:711 - ~ 01:42:387 - How about adding a spinner to the last part ?

[Normal]

00:19:867 - add a note to here ? You added it on same sound before 00:18:591 (3) -
01:40:711 - ~ 01:42:387 - Same Easy diff.
I feel these new combos are short. if you can, try to reduce it about half

[Ufw's Hard]

01:40:711 - ~ 01:42:387 - How about adding a spinner to the last part ?
Nothing to say, good

[MrSergio's Light Insane]

00:41:889 (1) - add a finish to follow the crash cymbal in the music.
00:46:038 (3) - I prefer to use your 1/2 rhythm pattren at here 00:56:250 (2) - . try to make 1/2 rhythm instead of 1/1 slider.
01:32:015 (2) - add a finish to the head

[Insane]

00:41:889 (1) - add a finish to follow the crash cymbal in the music.
00:48:431 (2) - move up this slider for using x1.3 spacing same your pattren at here 00:43:325 (2,3) -
SPOILER

[August]

00:31:197 (1) - stack on 00:30:399 (1) - 's head ? flow and design would be great!
00:41:889 (1) - add a finish to follow the crash cymbal in the music.
01:01:057 (4) - You added a new combo from here on isnane diff, add it too?
01:21:802 (3) - ,01:32:015 (2) - ^ same

Good luck!

_handholding

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Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-05-23T20:36:16+00:00

alacat

alacat wrote:
M4M

[General]
Tags : Yoshida Sumire Umemura Hinako Yamauchi Aina Kurosaka Yukako 吉田菫梅村妃奈子山内あいな黒坂優香子
added

[Easy]
00:50:824 (2) - add a drum-finish or clap to the tail ? added both a drum and a clap
01:40:711 - ~ 01:42:387 - How about adding a spinner to the last part ? I dont think it will fit
[Normal]
00:19:867 - add a note to here ? You added it on same sound before 00:18:591 (3) - I think its better without it so I dont have to put one at 00:20:505 (4)
01:40:711 - ~ 01:42:387 - Same Easy diff. same
I feel these new combos are short. if you can, try to reduce it about half ok
[Insane]
00:41:889 (1) - add a finish to follow the crash cymbal in the music. added
00:48:431 (2) - move up this slider for using x1.3 spacing same your pattren at here 00:43:325 (2,3) ok
SPOILER
[August]
00:31:197 (1) - stack on 00:30:399 (1) - 's head ? flow and design would be great! Great idea! done
00:41:889 (1) - add a finish to follow the crash cymbal in the music. added
01:01:057 (4) - You added a new combo from here on isnane diff, add it too? ok
01:21:802 (3) - ,01:32:015 (2) - ^ same added finishes
Good luck!

added missing hitsounds to sergio's diff

thnx for the mod

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_handholding

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Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-05-23T21:26:13+00:00

aia

Aia wrote:
m4m hello

[Easy]
01:27:866 (1,2,1) - These three sliders felt a bit out of place to me since it's the only time you did something like this even when the sound stayed the same. I kept it so its consistent with the beginning
01:39:993 (4,1) - I would just make this one slider to avoid doing 1/2 repeat sliders on easy difficulties, and on the normal diff it felt easier than this one.
[Insane]
00:48:192 (5,1) - Here I'm suggesting to make this look a bit nicer like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5175481 or you could just stack them under the tail reduced spacing a bit
00:57:208 (1) - Same for this one, would move it closer to the tail so it looks better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5175483 same as a bove
00:58:405 (5,1) - Also for this one you could do it like I mentioned in my first point and then adjust the notes that come afterwards, but it's your choice to do or not do any of these. same, I reduced spacing a tiny bit
[August]
00:48:910 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would NC all the jumps like this up to 4 instead of 2, don't feel like the spam is necessary i kept for consistency
00:21:144 (5,6,7,8,1) - Would like to see this stream have more of a curve, like this maybe ok? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5175510
00:28:484 (3,4,1) - This overlap really doesn't look that good. i like all overlaps :/ :v
01:32:334 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - This stream doesn't look good at all, I'm sure you can make it look better just like all the other streams in the map. changed
That's all, sorry for the small mod.. hope it helped at least a little.

thnx for the mod, sorry for late reply

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Sylphi

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Sylphi 2016-05-24T05:43:54+00:00

alacat wrote:
M4M

[General]
Tags : Yoshida Sumire Umemura Hinako Yamauchi Aina Kurosaka Yukako 吉田菫梅村妃奈子山内あいな黒坂優香子
[Ufw's Hard]
01:40:711 - ~ 01:42:387 - How about adding a spinner to the last part ? Current is fit more the music imo.
Nothing to say, good
Good luck!

Thanks for modding :3

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-05-24T19:13:36+00:00

automatically generated m4m response

[general]
somehow lots of you objects are unsnapped by like 1ms (you will notice if you move them on the timeline they will snap a little to the left/right) just resnap all notes under timing (set beat snap divisor to 1/4 first)
kicks as whistles in a song that would work great with whistles

i'd swap combo 3 with 2, makes the progression nicer
also consider different colors the different bgs cause some don'T work that well like the green on the bus bg lol

[december]
if you actually care about visuals I'd go through this and make some overlaps like 00:04:389 (4,6,2) - cleaner (same spacing for both overlaps) and stack some objects that are nearly stacked etc.
00:00:718 (1) - using lower sv for this would have such a nice effect and make the cymbal etc after feel more emphasized and fit the sound well. ~.5x would work
00:09:495 (3,4) - forcing this weird blanket makes for awkward movement and visuals because of the weird transition circular-back and forth-circular. sth like curving 2/4 less and moving 4 a bit could give you http://i.imgur.com/Jyh8rAm.jpg
00:10:771 (6) - overmapping this kills the whole emphasis of this part, it doesnt reflect the song at all. like there might be some guitar sound or whatever in the background but the drums go like http://i.imgur.com/bawGFsc.jpg if you want an easier rhythm (but why would you on an extra diff) you can use sth like http://i.imgur.com/pIju1rU.jpg

00:15:080 - 00:18:910 - would probably profit from some variety in sldier movement since they are all horizontal. also 00:15:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - is just the same counterclockwise movement :\
00:18:910 (1,2,3) - straight line gives no emphasis to the clap+guitar at 3
00:26:409 (7) - you didnt stack guitar+vocal before, so why here?
00:29:601 (2) - would either space this way more unbalaned or even, current looks just like you messed up even spacing
00:30:399 (1,2) - dont use same volume for sliderhead and tail that ends on nothing :/
00:32:792 - with how much you focus on vocals, having this one on the tail of some 1/2 slider seems wrong
00:36:782 (1,2) - those are pretty strong vocals on an extra diff, you can actually space them, even if it's 3/4 sliders. will be way more fitting and nice to play
00:39:974 (3,4,5,6) - could really space this more with how the pitch of vocals increaes etc
00:45:080 (1,2) - why break the 1/2 spam when the vocals go on, spread to insane would still be fine if you actually made the 1/2 clickable and it follows vocals much better
00:50:186 (1,2) - here sliders are fine cause vocals are different, but sth like http://i.imgur.com/G0DpF53.jpg would make for rhythm that works better with vocals // 01:31:057 (1,2) - similar 1/1 suggestion here
00:55:293 (1,2,1,2) - now you actually did it o:
01:02:174 (7) - if you wanted to do sth interesting you could change the movement/spacing/anything here to work with the new vocal
01:02:334 (1) - and here you actually did the sv thing O:
01:22:360 (8) - now this one has no drums
01:25:951 (1,2) - : d l 1/2 circle thing like before lol
01:34:887 - it's slowly getting old. this could really need some variety in terms of patterning
01:40:233 - compare the sound here and 01:40:552 -
01:41:908 (1,2,3,4) - overspaced compared to how soft+quiet the vocals are 01:01:057 (1,2,3) - is way better

most movement/spacing seems okay, but visuals are also a huge factor and there are so many random overlaps, weird looking angles etc. up to you if you want to make sth that doesn't jjust play fine but also looks good

[insane]
so similar to extra => everything you applied for extra should be applied here as well (except the 3/4 sliderjump things etc)
00:11:889 - bass is so strong, 2x 1/2 circles would fit better since that high pitched thing (where a slider fits) is also not on those ticks
00:30:399 (1) - splitting this into circle + 1/2 slider or even 3 circles would work much better with fading guitar on 1 and vocals
00:31:197 (3,4) - cymbal stack aaaaaaaaaaa
00:34:229 (1) - you use this not even noticeable curve but then dont even use it to make the slider curve to the next note : (
also 00:34:229 (1,2,3) - spacing change on nearlsy a stright line plays awkward and doesnt really fit here. you could just move 2 and solve both things at once http://i.imgur.com/czkTufp.jpg
00:34:867 (3,4,1) - straight movement ^
00:48:910 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - kinda weird to read with this low spacing, everything overlaps so much

visuals here are actually way better, yet still big room for improvement

[sergio]
00:00:718 (1) - i'd complain about curving such short sliders this much cuase it looks so blocky, but I do it myself so whatever xd
00:17:314 (6) - would overlap this a bit less just for readability, it's only a light insane after all
00:20:825 (4,1) - 1/1 stack into stream right after a 1/2 stack is a great way to annoy people lol
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - as much as I love vocal sliders with overmapped ends they feel so unfitting here due to completely ignoring the strong red ticks, also vocals continue until red ticks anyways, so 1/2 sliders or 1/1 circles would be a much better choice
00:45:080 (2,4) - either continue nc spam here with vocals or don't do it at all
00:59:781 - slider goes over offset reset, so either manually snap it correctly by editing the .osu or just make the cymbal clickable lol. having the finish sound coming a bit before the music is just wrong

well it's kinda edgy for what is supposed to be an easier insane to fill the spread

[ufw]
00:03:591 (1) - this is really personal preference, but imo sth like http://i.imgur.com/R9VZBtw.jpg looks better xd
00:21:143 (4) - how about http://i.imgur.com/CgzjBU1.jpg to get a clickable cymbal?
00:22:739 (1) - bit too undermapped for hard and doesnt work well with vocals, 1/1 slider + circle or sth would be nicer
other times you use this 1/1 repeat the vocals fit it better

[normal]
00:20:026 (3,4) - suddenly focusing on guitar makes for a "way harder than it needs to be here" rhythm
00:30:080 - sth like http://i.imgur.com/LTA7MMO.jpg follow the music way nicer while still keeping a fine polarity
00:51:303 (5) - http://i.imgur.com/UA712bb.jpg to make the cymbal clickable works better

[easy]
00:11:250 (1,2,3) - easy to misread for beginner cause 2-3 are both same distance from 1, visible while on 1 and 1 points more towards 3
don't force blankets/triangles on lower diffs when they impact readability
00:45:718 (2,1,2) - similar here, but not because of spacing, just from the movement
00:30:080 (2,1) - 01:39:993 (4) - i'm sure you could do fine without those 3 kicksliders

gl

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-05-25T03:44:07+00:00

Lasse

Lasse wrote:
automatically generated m4m response

[general]
somehow lots of you objects are unsnapped by like 1ms (you will notice if you move them on the timeline they will snap a little to the left/right) just resnap all notes under timing (set beat snap divisor to 1/4 first)
kicks as whistles in a song that would work great with whistles i hate whisltes :'(
i'd swap combo 3 with 2, makes the progression nicer ok
also consider different colors the different bgs cause some don'T work that well like the green on the bus bg lol I like the way how it looks on all bgs

[december]
if you actually care about visuals I'd go through this and make some overlaps like 00:04:389 (4,6,2) - cleaner (same spacing for both overlaps) and stack some objects that are nearly stacked etc.
00:00:718 (1) - using lower sv for this would have such a nice effect and make the cymbal etc after feel more emphasized and fit the sound well. ~.5x would work ok
00:09:495 (3,4) - forcing this weird blanket makes for awkward movement and visuals because of the weird transition circular-back and forth-circular. sth like curving 2/4 less and moving 4 a bit could give you http://i.imgur.com/Jyh8rAm.jpg makes sense
00:10:771 (6) - overmapping this kills the whole emphasis of this part, it doesnt reflect the song at all. like there might be some guitar sound or whatever in the background but the drums go like http://i.imgur.com/bawGFsc.jpg if you want an easier rhythm (but why would you on an extra diff) you can use sth like http://i.imgur.com/pIju1rU.jpg

00:15:080 - 00:18:910 - would probably profit from some variety in sldier movement since they are all horizontal. also 00:15:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - is just the same counterclockwise movement :\ would argue its part of the mapping style used for the map but asdf
00:18:910 (1,2,3) - straight line gives no emphasis to the clap+guitar at 3
00:26:409 (7) - you didnt stack guitar+vocal before, so why here? it felt right
00:29:601 (2) - would either space this way more unbalaned or even, current looks just like you messed up even spacing
00:30:399 (1,2) - dont use same volume for sliderhead and tail that ends on nothing :/
00:32:792 - with how much you focus on vocals, having this one on the tail of some 1/2 slider seems wrong eh?
00:36:782 (1,2) - those are pretty strong vocals on an extra diff, you can actually space them, even if it's 3/4 sliders. will be way more fitting and nice to play ok, made a little bit bigger for now but I'll change the pattern later
00:39:974 (3,4,5,6) - could really space this more with how the pitch of vocals increaes etc i didnt increase spacing so 00:41:250 (3,4,5,6) would be a lot bigger comparison
00:45:080 (1,2) - why break the 1/2 spam when the vocals go on, spread to insane would still be fine if you actually made the 1/2 clickable and it follows vocals much better i'll think about it
00:50:186 (1,2) - here sliders are fine cause vocals are different, but sth like http://i.imgur.com/G0DpF53.jpg would make for rhythm that works better with vocals // 01:31:057 (1,2) - similar 1/1 suggestion here
00:55:293 (1,2,1,2) - now you actually did it o:
01:02:174 (7) - if you wanted to do sth interesting you could change the movement/spacing/anything here to work with the new vocal that would make it overly complicated wouldnt it?
01:02:334 (1) - and here you actually did the sv thing O:
01:22:360 (8) - now this one has no drums
01:25:951 (1,2) - : d l 1/2 circle thing like before lol
01:34:887 - it's slowly getting old. this could really need some variety in terms of patterning its the last one lol... would aruge its the concept of the map but asdf, was going to say suggestion then pls but asdf
01:40:233 - compare the sound here and 01:40:552 -
01:41:908 (1,2,3,4) - overspaced compared to how soft+quiet the vocals are 01:01:057 (1,2,3) - is way better I made the sapcing like this as it feels better to finish off with it

most movement/spacing seems okay, but visuals are also a huge factor and there are so many random overlaps, weird looking angles etc. up to you if you want to make sth that doesn't jjust play fine but also looks good
I'll fix streams later

[insane]
so similar to extra => everything you applied for extra should be applied here as well (except the 3/4 sliderjump things etc)
00:11:889 - bass is so strong, 2x 1/2 circles would fit better since that high pitched thing (where a slider fits) is also not on those ticks I have a very good reason for using this rhythm but im too lazy to explain sorry
00:30:399 (1) - splitting this into circle + 1/2 slider or even 3 circles would work much better with fading guitar on 1 and vocals I'd rather just keep it simple
00:31:197 (3,4) - cymbal stack aaaaaaaaaaa it flows well though..
00:34:229 (1) - you use this not even noticeable curve but then dont even use it to make the slider curve to the next note : (
also 00:34:229 (1,2,3) - spacing change on nearlsy a stright line plays awkward and doesnt really fit here. you could just move 2 and solve both things at once http://i.imgur.com/czkTufp.jpg ok, makes sense
00:34:867 (3,4,1) - straight movement ^ fixed
00:48:910 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - kinda weird to read with this low spacing, everything overlaps so much increased spacing

visuals here are actually way better, yet still big room for improvement the stylee is consistent for the whole map, you could of at least told me what about it the that makes the whole map flawed

[normal]
00:20:026 (3,4) - suddenly focusing on guitar makes for a "way harder than it needs to be here" rhythm I was following the vocals for the past 3 measures
00:30:080 - sth like http://i.imgur.com/LTA7MMO.jpg follow the music way nicer while still keeping a fine polarity changed it slighty
00:51:303 (5) - http://i.imgur.com/UA712bb.jpg to make the cymbal clickable works better ok

[easy]
00:11:250 (1,2,3) - easy to misread for beginner cause 2-3 are both same distance from 1, visible while on 1 and 1 points more towards 3
don't force blankets/triangles on lower diffs when they impact readability
00:45:718 (2,1,2) - similar here, but not because of spacing, just from the movement fixed
00:30:080 (2,1) - 01:39:993 (4) - i'm sure you could do fine without those 3 kicksliders I'd rather keep them. The last one spices it up a bit without making it overly difficult. as for the other 2 it just felt weird to miss on the other sounds and I dont feel likes its inappropriate to 1/2 sliders here

gl

Sylphi

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3,298 posts

Joined February 2012

Sylphi 2016-05-25T11:39:30+00:00

Lasse wrote:
automatically generated m4m response

[ufw]
00:03:591 (1) - this is really personal preference, but imo sth like http://i.imgur.com/R9VZBtw.jpg looks better xd There is no difference imo.
00:21:143 (4) - how about http://i.imgur.com/CgzjBU1.jpg to get a clickable cymbal? I'll think about this.
00:22:739 (1) - bit too undermapped for hard and doesnt work well with vocals, 1/1 slider + circle or sth would be nicer
other times you use this 1/1 repeat the vocals fit it better Same as above.

gl

Thanks for modding :3

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2016-05-25T15:59:02+00:00

Easy

01:32:972 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - where is charm+cool+funny finish sound? D:

Normal

00:21:143 (5) - 1/2 slider can work to express drum-repeat sound as well,

Hard

00:27:048 (2,3) - double-drum sound(whistle hitsound) don't fit with music.
not have worth double beat in here..
01:04:249 (3,4) - inconsistent with DS 01:14:461 (3,4) -

Light Insane

00:27:846 (1,1,1) - im nut sure it's best way on rhythm choice.
because 00:28:005 - have cool drum sound.
tbh, 1/4 slider don't make sense in here..

Insane

00:09:176 (2,3,4,5,6) - change to slider?
i understand this(00:19:389 (2,3,4,5,6) - ) circle mapping why it can,
but kinda doubt, in here. i don't feel that it's worth rhythm which motivate for circle mapping.
also refer extra diff's rhythm.

Extra

00:59:442 (4,1) - it can increase more DS for emphasis.
small DS + finish sound, feel kinda awkward imo. About x1.9 DS is enough i guess.
01:39:355 (1) - i know it's fine for rank. btw, since it look like, you mapped to aim for vocal.
as 00:43:803 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . etc
therefore, i think it's more cool, if you change this rhythm which follow vocal.
also, 01:39:673 - really strong beat. recommend clickable mapping here.

Sylphi

osu! Alumni

3,298 posts

Joined February 2012

Sylphi 2016-05-25T19:37:24+00:00

Lami wrote:
Hard

00:27:048 (2,3) - double-drum sound(whistle hitsound) don't fit with music.
not have worth double beat in here.. Remove whistle on 2.
01:04:249 (3,4) - inconsistent with DS 01:14:461 (3,4) - I don't know why. there is no correlation.

Thanks for modding :3

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280,92,40452,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Shiranai

2,186 posts

Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2016-05-27T04:47:52+00:00

~~Placehold, checking now~~~

Hello, sorry for the delay!
Small sugestion,

General

Any metadata source?
For all diffs especially Kisses', why your diff not end on same point? I think they should be end here 01:42:387 -

August

00:00:718 (1) - Why not use lower sv on that one, like you did on 01:02:334 (1) - ? I think that slowdown play nice due to guitar transition
00:30:638 - and 00:30:957 - Lower the volume on each 3/4 slider end, to make the 3/4 transition less weird
01:32:334 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Can't you find a better angle of that stream? imo those stream pattern seems too forced especially on 01:32:653 (7,8,9,10,1) -

Some overlap not really neat

Insane

00:00:718 (1) - Same as august, try to use lower sv on that one?
01:30:419 (1) - Why not use 1/2 slider + circle or something? to follow the vocal better like you did on first part 01:24:674 -

Sergio Insane

00:09:495 - Missing whistle and 00:09:654 - the whistle a bit contradictive with clap imo better delete the whistle on (4)'s head
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - Feels odd imo, I don't think that 1/4 a good way to highlight the vocal because the blue has nothing on it also kinda out of place with your rhythm choice and patterning, my sugestion is try to use regular rhythm like you did on 00:35:506 (1,2,3) -
00:37:740 (4) - Why not 3/4? I think you can make the rhythm same as 00:36:463 (4,1) - since those two share same rhythmical music
00:43:644 (3) - Supposed to be clap instead whistle
00:46:037 (3) - Umm feels odd if you just skip strong drum on 00:46:197 - . It's like you try to follow drum on background music
01:24:993 - Missing clap

Your hitsound can be improve more, there's still some missing and misplaced bass sound

Ufw Hard

00:30:240 (4,1) - Umm I don't think those stack a good way on emphsizing the strong beat on 00:30:399 (1) - . So maybe you should move (1) somewhere else to give it more emphsize
01:12:227 (3) - Maybe try use a triplet there? there's a drum on blue tick here 01:12:307 -

Normal

00:20:026 (3,4,5) - Why that you start that slider repeat on weak beat? I think the whole rhythm better like http://puu.sh/p6DIc/3c0c1a2dd4.jpg
00:54:335 (6) - Missing clap
00:59:781 (1) - Missing clap and finish
01:16:217 (4) - Consider to delete that, your 1/2 rhytm a bit too long 01:15:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
01:40:632 (1) - Missing finish

Easy

00:30:239 - Add drum-whislte for snare
00:31:197 (1) - Add whistle on head also clap and finish on tail
01:27:866 (1,2,1) - Why use long slider? I don't see that necessarry

Overall play just fine, but I don't really into your August diff;;
Good luck, hope that help~

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_handholding 2016-05-27T18:23:28+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
~~Placehold, checking now~~~

Hello, sorry for the delay!
Small sugestion,

General
Any metadata source? There's the official website for the song name http://silent-siren.com/en/ I got nothing else though
For all diffs especially Kisses', why your diff not end on same point? I think they should be end here 01:42:387 Is this a problem? Ending Easy and Normal at this point feels weird
August
00:00:718 (1) - Why not use lower sv on that one, like you did on 01:02:334 (1) - ? I think that slowdown play nice due to guitar transition
00:30:638 - and 00:30:957 - Lower the volume on each 3/4 slider end, to make the 3/4 transition less weird
01:32:334 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Can't you find a better angle of that stream? imo those stream pattern seems too forced especially on 01:32:653 (7,8,9,10,1) -
Fixed all
Some overlap not really neat xddddddd
Insane
00:00:718 (1) - Same as august, try to use lower sv on that one? ok
01:30:419 (1) - Why not use 1/2 slider + circle or something? to follow the vocal better like you did on first part 01:24:674 I'll consider this

Normal
00:20:026 (3,4,5) - Why that you start that slider repeat on weak beat? I think the whole rhythm better like http://puu.sh/p6DIc/3c0c1a2dd4.jpg
00:54:335 (6) - Missing clap
00:59:781 (1) - Missing clap and finish
01:16:217 (4) - Consider to delete that, your 1/2 rhytm a bit too long 01:15:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
01:40:632 (1) - Missing finish
fixed all
Easy
00:30:239 - Add drum-whislte for snare ok
00:31:197 (1) - Add whistle on head also clap and finish on tail ok
01:27:866 (1,2,1) - Why use long slider? I don't see that necessarry emmmm... its the same as 00:06:144 (1,2,1) isnt it??
Overall play just fine, but I don't really into your August diff;; xddddd No one does it! xdD ;w; Could you tell me why pls? is it because of the overlaps?
Good luck, hope that help~

thanks for the mod!

Sylphi

osu! Alumni

3,298 posts

Joined February 2012

Sylphi 2016-05-27T18:54:13+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
~~Placehold, checking now~~~

Hello, sorry for the delay!
Small sugestion,

General
Any metadata source?
For all diffs especially Kisses', why your diff not end on same point? I think they should be end here 01:42:387 - I wanna keep current endtime.
Ufw Hard
00:30:240 (4,1) - Umm I don't think those stack a good way on emphsizing the strong beat on 00:30:399 (1) - . So maybe you should move (1) somewhere else to give it more emphsize but it is not difficult to read rhythm.
01:12:227 (3) - Maybe try use a triplet there? there's a drum on blue tick here 01:12:307 - It is necessary to re-map some parts if this is changed to triplet.
Overall play just fine, but I don't really into your August diff;;
Good luck, hope that help~

Thanks for modding XD

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-05-31T05:12:48+00:00

August

00:36:782 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - What's with the random NC spam here.
01:02:334 (1) - I would bend it upward instead for better flow with the stream. It's a slow slider, so having it flow well here makes more sense.

~

Insane

00:07:101 (4,1) - It's just annoying to me that 4 isn't perfectly in the middle of slider 1.
00:08:058 (3,1) - And avoid this overlap if you can. Looks untidy to me since its such a small overlap. Small overlaps tend to make it seem like the overlap wasn't intentional.
00:56:888 (6,1) - Have 1 be linear to 6? Right now its jutting out to the right slightly. looks weird since its too small to look like an angle change/intentional.

MrSergio

00:10:293 (2) - Why not map the red tick? Maybe a 1/2 slider or something?
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - I don't get why you need to use 1/4 sliders lol. You can just use 1/2 sliders and you'd still emphasize the vocals
00:43:803 (1,1,1,1) - The spacing between these sliders just looks off. It doesn't look like theres a consistent angle change and spacing to them.

You can see the overlaps are different

00:49:548 (1,1) - Same here^ but its just the last slider i think. the others lookconsistent.

Normal

00:10:612 (6,1) - Spacing is consistent here, 1.0 to 1.1.

[]

When you're done call me back.

Last edited by Monstrata 2016-06-03T02:47:28+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

_handholding

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_handholding 2016-05-31T06:23:15+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
August

00:36:782 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1) - What's with the random NC spam here. lol, I thought it would make the 3/4 sliders more read-able xd. Fixed
01:02:334 (1) - I would bend it upward instead for better flow with the stream. It's a slow slider, so having it flow well here makes more sense.
~
I kinda didnt want because I liked the look of it curving the other way buttt, ok

Insane

00:07:101 (4,1) - It's just annoying to me that 4 isn't perfectly in the middle of slider 1. I think I got it in the middle
00:08:058 (3,1) - And avoid this overlap if you can. Looks untidy to me since its such a small overlap. Small overlaps tend to make it seem like the overlap wasn't intentional. ok
00:56:888 (6,1) - Have 1 be linear to 6? Right now its jutting out to the right slightly. looks weird since its too small to look like an angle change/intentional. fixed

Normal

00:10:612 (6,1) - Spacing is consistent here, 1.0 to 1.1. fixed

When you're done call me back. Arigatou ~ gonna wait for MrSergio

Battle

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Battle 2016-05-31T08:09:31+00:00

o I was finally about to get to this after 2 weeks but I guess not lol

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-05-31T15:43:16+00:00

alacat wrote:
[MrSergio's Light Insane]
00:41:889 (1) - add a finish to follow the crash cymbal in the music.
00:46:038 (3) - I prefer to use your 1/2 rhythm pattren at here 00:56:250 (2) - . try to make 1/2 rhythm instead of 1/1 slider.
01:32:015 (2) - add a finish to the head

Fixed all, thanks~

Lasse wrote:
[sergio]
00:00:718 (1) - i'd complain about curving such short sliders this much cuase it looks so blocky, but I do it myself so whatever xd I just didn't waant to use a circle for that beat
00:17:314 (6) - would overlap this a bit less just for readability, it's only a light insane after all moved, even if I don't know how a bigger spacing is better to lessen the difficulty of the map tbh on a second thought, nope. It looks bad and feels inconsistent with the other similar patterns all over the map
00:20:825 (4,1) - 1/1 stack into stream right after a 1/2 stack is a great way to annoy people lol Yeah, I know :")
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - as much as I love vocal sliders with overmapped ends they feel so unfitting here due to completely ignoring the strong red ticks, also vocals continue until red ticks anyways, so 1/2 sliders or 1/1 circles would be a much better choice I follow vocals a lot. It's more natural this way than following drums imo
00:45:080 (2,4) - either continue nc spam here with vocals or don't do it at all If you say "nc spam" than you probably didn't understand that I use NC only to warn players of the ONLY pattenr which uses such low spacing
00:59:781 - slider goes over offset reset, so either manually snap it correctly by editing the .osu or just make the cymbal clickable lol. having the finish sound coming a bit before the music is just wrong fixed using SVs

well it's kinda edgy for what is supposed to be an easier insane to fill the spread that's probably my style, rip

Lami wrote:
Light Insane

00:27:846 (1,1,1) - im nut sure it's best way on rhythm choice. totally intended and feels fine for me
because 00:28:005 - have cool drum sound.
tbh, 1/4 slider don't make sense in here.. following vocals.
It's not like everything must fall on the usual 1/2 pattern, you know? <.<"

Mako Sakata wrote:
Sergio Insane
00:09:495 - Missing whistle and 00:09:654 - the whistle a bit contradictive with clap imo better delete the whistle on (4)'s head
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - Feels odd imo, I don't think that 1/4 a good way to highlight the vocal because the blue has nothing on it also kinda out of place with your rhythm choice and patterning, my sugestion is try to use regular rhythm like you did on 00:35:506 (1,2,3) - out of my regular style? .-. I'm mostly following vocals 80% of the time, how's that odd? .-.
00:37:740 (4) - Why not 3/4? I think you can make the rhythm same as 00:36:463 (4,1) - since those two share same rhythmical music Because they have different lengths
00:43:644 (3) - Supposed to be clap instead whistle
00:46:037 (3) - Umm feels odd if you just skip strong drum on 00:46:197 - . It's like you try to follow drum on background music fixed with alacat's mod
01:24:993 - Missing clap

Your hitsound can be improve more, there's still some missing and misplaced bass sound hitsounds should have been handled by Kisses already

Monstrata wrote:
MrSergio

00:10:293 (2) - Why not map the red tick? Maybe a 1/2 slider or something? because I change instrument there and there isn't much I can do (the 1/2 slider feels sloppy too, so nope)
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - I don't get why you need to use 1/4 sliders lol. You can just use 1/2 sliders and you'd still emphasize the vocals I don't get why i MUST use 1/2 sliders tho
00:43:803 (1,1,1,1) - The spacing between these sliders just looks off. It doesn't look like theres a consistent angle change and spacing to them. dawh, I probably screwed up with the manual DS, but is that nazi thing really a matter or is it just to make the mod longer? :^)
I tried to fix it anyway
You can see the overlaps are different

00:49:548 (1,1) - Same here^ but its just the last slider i think. the others lookconsistent. Those pixels will be my death probably. They will come in my dreams and suffocate my soul huehue :^)

Thanks all for the mods~

UPDATE

_handholding

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_handholding 2016-05-31T20:10:20+00:00

ok, updated

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2016-05-31T20:53:14+00:00

@MrSergio

00:43:803 (1,1,1,1) - The spacing between these sliders just looks off. It doesn't look like theres a consistent angle change and spacing to them. dawh, I probably screwed up with the manual DS, but is that nazi thing really a matter or is it just to make the mod longer? :^)
I tried to fix it anyway

^

It's not the DS, its the inconsistent overlap. You messed up while copy/pasting a certain angle change i think... that or you mapped the pattern manually, but either way, because the overlaps were inconsistent it came across as unpolished. (Actually a few of them are off, but i only mentioned the ones that I could see immediately).

00:43:803 (1,1,1,1) -

As you can see, the overlaps aren't consistent. Red slider is the one that will stand out here.

00:48:910 (1,1,1,1) -

Here, the slider-end of the blue and red sliders are noticeably off. As well, the pattern doesn't seem to curve naturally. It looks like you placed them manually instead of placing two, copy/pasting, and rotating a certain degree.

Additionally:

00:10:452 - Still feels better with something here... Leaving it empty just doesn't sound nice to me, especially since in the music, the piano/synth sound builds up in pitch towards this note, and it's quite emphasized when you consider the piano.
00:13:803 (1,2,3) - The inconsistent distances between these blanket patterns really makes this look unpolished imo xP.

Basically looking for something like this

00:23:378 (2,3,4) - This pattern actually looks really off when you enable stacking. I really doubt you intended for this kind of spacing. Slider 4 is a lot higher up than it is without stacking. Consider manually stacking, or reducing Stack Leniency to 5. Additionally, i think you were going for a linear pattern with 2>3>4 so i would reposition 3 too, because with stacking disabled, it still doesn't look perfectly linear.
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - 1/2 allows you to map the drums too. Additionally, the vocals aren't sharp here, you can hear them being held over a duration of 1/2 a beat so using kicksliders here isn't a good choice. Kicksliders are better for emphasizing sharp notes that noticeably end before the 1/2 tick, but here it sounds like any other vocal.
01:05:366 (3,4) - Emphatically, this jump didn't seem that necessary, but I think its acceptable... however I wonder why you don't do some sort of jump for 01:06:642 (2,3) - to emphasize the vocals?
01:15:100 (1,2,3) - Position 3 so it's also being blanketted by slider 1? Would improve the visual placement here. 192||275
01:29:781 (1,1,1,1) - This looks off too now that i'm looking at it a bit more closely

~

01:34:887 (1,1,1,1) - Same here. Mainly the last slider

~

Tell me more about making my mod longer :^)

_handholding

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_handholding 2016-05-31T21:25:34+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Tell me more about making my mod longer :^)

loool xddddddd

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-06-01T14:01:58+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
@MrSergio

00:43:803 (1,1,1,1) - The spacing between these sliders just looks off. It doesn't look like theres a consistent angle change and spacing to them. dawh, I probably screwed up with the manual DS, but is that nazi thing really a matter or is it just to make the mod longer? :^)
I tried to fix it anyway

^

It's not the DS, its the inconsistent overlap. You messed up while copy/pasting a certain angle change i think... that or you mapped the pattern manually, but either way, because the overlaps were inconsistent it came across as unpolished. (Actually a few of them are off, but i only mentioned the ones that I could see immediately).

00:43:803 (1,1,1,1) -

As you can see, the overlaps aren't consistent. Red slider is the one that will stand out here.

00:48:910 (1,1,1,1) -

Here, the slider-end of the blue and red sliders are noticeably off. As well, the pattern doesn't seem to curve naturally. It looks like you placed them manually instead of placing two, copy/pasting, and rotating a certain degree.

Additionally:

00:10:452 - Still feels better with something here... Leaving it empty just doesn't sound nice to me, especially since in the music, the piano/synth sound builds up in pitch towards this note, and it's quite emphasized when you consider the piano. yeah, but as I said the hitsounds represent drums so it's literally an instrument change
00:13:803 (1,2,3) - The inconsistent distances between these blanket patterns really makes this look unpolished imo xP.
Basically looking for something like this
00:23:378 (2,3,4) - This pattern actually looks really off when you enable stacking. I really doubt you intended for this kind of spacing. Slider 4 is a lot higher up than it is without stacking. Consider manually stacking, or reducing Stack Leniency to 5. Additionally, i think you were going for a linear pattern with 2>3>4 so i would reposition 3 too, because with stacking disabled, it still doesn't look perfectly linear. stack leniency to 5
00:27:846 (1,1,1) - 1/2 allows you to map the drums too. Additionally, the vocals aren't sharp here, you can hear them being held over a duration of 1/2 a beat so using kicksliders here isn't a good choice. Kicksliders are better for emphasizing sharp notes that noticeably end before the 1/2 tick, but here it sounds like any other vocal. "Kickliders are better for emphasizing sharp notes" ... I would add "usually", which means that it's not used like that 100% of the times
01:05:366 (3,4) - Emphatically, this jump didn't seem that necessary, but I think its acceptable... however I wonder why you don't do some sort of jump for 01:06:642 (2,3) - to emphasize the vocals? reduced
01:15:100 (1,2,3) - Position 3 so it's also being blanketted by slider 1? Would improve the visual placement here. 192||275 that wasn't supposed to be a blanket
01:29:781 (1,1,1,1) - This looks off too now that i'm looking at it a bit more closely
~
01:34:887 (1,1,1,1) - Same here. Mainly the last slider
~

Tell me more about making my mod longer :^)

I didn't reply on every note placement, since I went all over the map and fixed them all (I hope)

Update

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2016-06-02T03:42:03+00:00

MrSergio

01:15:100 (1,2,3) - Position 3 so it's also being blanketted by slider 1? Would improve the visual placement here. 192||275 that wasn't supposed to be a blanket

^

Yea, i know it wasn't intended to be a blanket. But blanketting looks cleaner, structurally. Would appreciate a reason more related to why you wouldn't blanket there, basically.

00:27:846 (1,1,1) - Also, this kickslider pattern just doesn't work xP. I think enough people have brought it up while modding that you really should consider changing it. I mean, 7 modders, 3 of which are BN's have pointed it out. That's a good indicator that it'll probably crop out again even if this map gets qualified.

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-06-02T18:44:10+00:00

Yea, i know it wasn't intended to be a blanket. But blanketting looks cleaner, structurally. Would appreciate a reason more related to why you wouldn't blanket there, basically.

Did I ever mention I was aiming for a structured map?
I guess it's time to make it clear how I create my maps: try a Ctrl + J on 01:15:738 (3) - and tell me if it isn't blanketed this way.

That was my aim. This is my aim on my maps.
Obviously, I agree that maps have to look clean, but not full of blankets. That's boring af.

this kickslider pattern just doesn't work xP.

So anti-jumps don't work here? Why? As far as I read, most comments regarding this pattern are related to "feels odd".
Is that a reason?
Yeah, it is. A personal one.
Try replacing those sliders with circles: that's how they have to be played and the player needs to read it while playing.

I think enough people have brought it up while modding that you really should consider changing it. I mean, 7 modders, 3 of which are BN's have pointed it out.

I got curious about this statement and I went checking all mods so far.
Mods received: 17 Mods in which people complained about that pattern: 6+3 (BNs included)
If I didn't miscalculated, only half of the modders complained about it, so I wonder how the "number" in this case might be a valid reason to consider it.
(should I mentioned that alacat didn't complain about it? You know, you brought up BNs, so...)

______________________

So, in the end, let me sum up what I have in mind (if I can)

What I don't really stand is the fact more and more mappers/modders try to restrict others' mapping to a basic and solid structure (I'm referring to sentences like "this should be used for this rhythm" and such). It's not bad, but I can't stand it.
There are tons of identical maps already (from my point of view, obviously) and I can't force myself to map that way. Call me stubborn, idiot, anti-ruler or whatever, but I can't.
The fact of using 1/2 sliders for that part of the song is one of those "boring" patterns I hate, not because they are wrong (nothing is wrong/right in art applicances) but because I'm full of seeing identical patterns on different maps. (90% of the maps are like that from what I saw, imo)
With this said, I would also like to point out how we are discussing about personal matters. Above all this pattern was by far my most cherished pattern in all the map.
Objectively, it has nothing which isn't unacceptable, and you agreed on it too in your first mod.

If this isn't really enough to explain myself, then idk (I probably didn't, but oh well...)
If it's really a problem for the ranking process I don't mind changing it, since it's not my mapset and I don't want to delay anymore a potential rank for Kisses, but since it's one of the patterns I most care about I would prefer avoid changing it.
I just want to remind you that it has nothing objectively "wrong" and it depends only on our mapping experience. Mapping is personal interpretation and I wanted to give to players something which is unusual but still plays nice if read correctly, that's all.

PS: imo I found more important matters which were worth discussing while rechecking my map, but I can't do much by myself since I would end up with similar, if not identical, patterns. That's also maybe why I don't care much about pixels lol
Since no one mentions them I think they are fine tho... I guess... I hope...

PPS: don't ever look at my mapsets. You'll probably rage even more lol

Lasse

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Lasse 2016-06-02T22:47:40+00:00

Using such patterns/unusual things is completely fine, if they actually fit which just isn't the case with that kickslider pattern

So anti-jumps don't work here? Why? As far as I read, most comments regarding this pattern are related to "feels odd".
Is that a reason?

That totally wasn't the point, at least not for me when I complained as you can read from my mod. The point was more: if your "vocal sliders" don't even follow those vocals well, while also ignoring any other instrument they just feel wrong.

if you want to put more diverse rhythm maybe find songs(or at least spots in a song) that actually support them :v

That being said it's your map so it's your decision after all, just keep in mind that something that makes sense to you doesn't necessarily make sense to others. Like you might be able to see some logic behind those sliders, but if others can't then there might actually be something wrong.

Visual stuff is completely up to you, it's one of those things that is not needed to rank maps, or make maps that are "fine", but it can make them much better overall, just like advanced hitsounding, storyboarding, colorhax etc. (and often also makes people more likely to icon xd)
It's not about "blanketing everything" but more about giving a clean feeling by having actually equal rotational patterns, keeping visual spacing in mind etc.

There might be some random words in this post cause I wrote it on my phone and I tend to misclick stuff lol

Underforest

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Underforest 2016-06-02T22:48:47+00:00

/me eats popcorn
Drama is starting o3o

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2016-06-03T02:47:14+00:00

Quote:
Yea, i know it wasn't intended to be a blanket. But blanketting looks cleaner, structurally. Would appreciate a reason more related to why you wouldn't blanket there, basically.

Did I ever mention I was aiming for a structured map?
I guess it's time to make it clear how I create my maps: try a Ctrl + J on 01:15:738 (3) - and tell me if it isn't blanketed this way.

That was my aim. This is my aim on my maps.
Obviously, I agree that maps have to look clean, but not full of blankets. That's boring af.

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That's all I needed. I'm not asking you to blanket. My mod is asking you why you wouldn't blanket. The answer "It's not supposed to be a blanket" didn't answer my mod, which was why I wanted clarification

Quote:
this kickslider pattern just doesn't work xP.

text...

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I guess you weren't around when QAT's actually got people to change patterns. The system has become extremely laid-back. Actually, just the fact that BN's are shamed or somehow "in the wrong" for trying to get a pattern changed is a testament to how laid-back this system is. The fact is that mappers have been guilt-tripping BN's into bubbling their stuff because "99% of it is good, just excuse this one tiny thing". I should be able to walk away from this and not get ppl saying "wow, you won't bubble just because of that?" but sadly, times have changed.

Anyways, you've tried your best to explain your reasoning for that pattern. I still don't see why you would choose this over other ways of expressing those vocals. Usually, if you want to do something different, you should put it in an important location, like before a kiai, during a kiai, during a unique rhythm featured in the map, etc... some place where the music itself is unique, and the "inconsistency" card can't be pulled. Unfortunately, from my eyes you just picked some arbitrary place that isn't particularly interesting, and tried to do something different. So +1 for doing something different but -1 because to me this is the wrong place to do it.

Hope you understand~

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-06-03T12:10:40+00:00

I was around when QATs did what they did x)
Since isn't my job to analize what people thinks I'll just leave it like this and change that pattern.
I hope it's fine like this for everyone. EVEN IF THE WHOLE MAP NOW SUCKS, BUT WHATEVER

PS: I wasn't blaming BNs for exerting their will to change patterns they don't like... It was a more general comment referred to everyone

HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2016-06-13T11:17:05+00:00

From My queue

[Ufw's Hard]

00:33:272 (2) - 개인적으로 이런 직선 모양보다는 곡선 모양으로 표현하는게 더 부드럽게 갈것같다는 생각인데 어떠신가요
00:39:655 (2) - 이거요 1번 슬라랑 블랭킷처리되게 위로 볼록 어떠신가요

SPOILER

00:41:889 (1,1) - 여긴 리버스 처리 안하시고 00:44:442 (1,1) - 이곳을 리버스 처리하신 의도를 딱히 모르겠습니다. 개인적으로 후자쪽으로 동일하시는편이 뚝뚝 끊어지는 느낌없이 좋을거같아요

00:44:920 (2) - 블랭킷

개인적으로 임펙트로 들어갈 피니쉬사운드가 없어서 아쉬웠습니다.

[Insane]

01:26:908 (2) - i think this flow bad.. maybe better ctrl+g.

GL!

Sylphi

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Sylphi 2016-06-13T11:35:17+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:
From My queue

[Ufw's Hard]

00:33:272 (2) - 개인적으로 이런 직선 모양보다는 곡선 모양으로 표현하는게 더 부드럽게 갈것같다는 생각인데 어떠신가요 저거만 좀 많이 안어울리는 느낌이 드네요. 수정했습니다.
00:39:655 (2) - 이거요 1번 슬라랑 블랭킷처리되게 위로 볼록 어떠신가요 전 현 상황이 더 보기 좋다고 생각합니다.
SPOILER

00:41:889 (1,1) - 여긴 리버스 처리 안하시고 00:44:442 (1,1) - 이곳을 리버스 처리하신 의도를 딱히 모르겠습니다. 개인적으로 후자쪽으로 동일하시는편이 뚝뚝 끊어지는 느낌없이 좋을거같아요 자세히 보시면 특정 규칙으로 변하는걸 알수 있습니다.

00:44:920 (2) - 블랭킷 좀 이상하긴 한데 신경쓰일 정도는 아니라 생각해요.

개인적으로 임펙트로 들어갈 피니쉬사운드가 없어서 아쉬웠습니다. 심벌즈 소리가 들리는 부분에만 피니쉬를 넣은거라 그렇습니다.

GL!

Thanks for modding :3

Ufw's Hard

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_handholding

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_handholding 2016-06-16T16:10:47+00:00

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BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2016-06-23T04:10:20+00:00

The way August difficulty is mapped. It seems like it's intended for left-handed players XD
Anyways....I'll be checking this map soon

EDIT: I checked the mapset and it looks fine to me.
Call me back!

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-06-30T04:58:30+00:00

ok, I got ninja'd lol

BeatofIke

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BeatofIke 2016-06-30T05:24:33+00:00

Good luck~

MBomb

MBomb 2016-07-02T12:20:23+00:00

Qualified <3

_handholding

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_handholding 2016-07-02T12:25:28+00:00

Thnx Magic Bomb! Really nice of you to push this through, I worked really hard on this mapset and I'm so glad that my dreams have come true

You've made me the happiest man alive!

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2016-07-02T12:32:15+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Thnx Magic Bomb! Really nice of you to push this through, I worked really hard on this mapset and I'm so glad that my dreams have come true

You've made me the happiest man alive!

same

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