12:59 Exa: yo
12:59 *Exa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/990634 solfa feat. KOTOKO - Fancy Game !? [Meep?]]
12:59 Exa: wanna discuss some stuff?
12:59 _Meep_: Yea
12:59 _Meep_: I'd love suggestions <3
12:59 Exa: What I'll give are more like advice XD
13:00 Exa: But lets get to it
13:00 _Meep_: Yayy
13:00 Exa: So first things first you must be confident that your timing is right
13:00 Exa: That means having a correct offset and BPM
13:00 _Meep_: Yea,I know that some parts have pretty weird timings
13:00 _Meep_: The BPM feels right,I don't know about the offset however.
13:01 Exa: Wait, let me try some stuff out
13:01 _Meep_: Go ahead
13:02 Exa: So the BPM is correct
13:02 Exa: But the offset is definitely not
13:02 _Meep_: Yea
13:02 _Meep_: I can't figure out the offset
13:03 Exa: try out 181 offset
13:03 _Meep_: With 179 bpm?
13:04 Exa: yup
13:04 _Meep_: kk
13:04 Exa: actually do 183
13:04 _Meep_: I think I should go a bit slower
13:04 _Meep_: just now I tapped till it reached 175.40
13:04 Exa: And its universal, meaning it doesn't change
13:05 _Meep_: Oh,ok XD
13:05 _Meep_: so I'll try 183
13:05 Exa: and yeah, the BPM is not exactly right
13:05 Exa: I checked again and it is off
13:05 Exa: let me find the correct one
13:06 _Meep_: I tried till 175.40,see what u get
13:06 Exa: Nah there's no way its decimal
13:06 Exa: Do 175
13:06 Exa: seems fine on my end
13:07 _Meep_: ok,leme try
13:07 _Meep_: offset 181?
13:07 Exa: 183
13:07 Exa: bpm 175
13:07 _Meep_: kk
13:08 Exa: Also you should make sure that your objects start on red and white ticks as a majority
13:08 Exa: if there are 1/4 beats, use the blue ticks
13:08 Exa: and of course if there are 1/8 use the yellows
13:08 _Meep_: I can't
13:08 Exa: ?
13:08 _Meep_: I have to map the sliders in 1/4 and snap them in 1/6
13:08 Exa: why?
13:08 _Meep_: It doesn't sound right if its mapped in 1/3 or 1/6
13:09 Exa: Because it's not 1/3 or 1/6
13:09 Exa: It's 1/2 and 1/4
13:09 _Meep_: But the note placements sound better in 1/6 -.-
13:09 Exa: On my end, with the BPM and offset that I gave you, they sound perfect on 1/2 and 1/4 because that's where the beats of the song are
13:10 Exa: It's not about how they sound when they are placed, it's about whether or not there is a beat there
13:10 _Meep_: The beat is there,the note isn't (When it is 1/2 or 1/4)
13:10 _Meep_: Thats why I tried 1/3 and 1/6 and it worked
13:10 Exa: I don't get what you mean
13:10 Exa: if there is a beat, you can place a note (hircircle)
13:11 _Meep_: Let me try to resnap everything to 1/4
13:11 Exa: Make sure the [http://puu.sh/pblXF/7e679e925e.jpg Beat Snap Divisor] is 1/2 or 1/4
13:12 _Meep_: Try to snap the starting notes to 1/4 or 1/2
13:12 _Meep_: you'll feel like wtf is dis -.-
13:12 Exa: ...It sound perfectly right to me
13:13 Exa: Can you please show me your timing setup panel and how you've snapped them on the timeline?
13:13 _Meep_: Wait,I think because I snapped it infront just now XD
13:13 Exa: You can slow the song down [http://puu.sh/pbm3M/a817fe5b36.jpg here] if you are not sure if there is a beat somewhere
13:13 Exa: Make sure that you snap notes on red and white ticks that contain actual beats
13:14 _Meep_: Must it always be on those?
13:14 Exa: If there is a beat yes
13:14 Exa: If there are beats on blue ticks, use blue ticks
13:14 Exa: Sometimes there are beats that follow a 1/3 or 1/6 rhythm, but that's quite rare
13:15 Exa: I am going though the song now and haven't yet found 1/3 or 1/6 rhythm
13:15 _Meep_: Im trying to snapp everything to 1/4 now
13:15 Exa: Make sure there are beats where you snap them
13:15 _Meep_: Yea
13:15 Exa: Remember: 1/2 = red and white, 1/4 = red, white and blue
13:16 _Meep_: got it
13:16 Exa: Nope, as far as I can tell, the song has no 1/3 or 1/6 rhythms
13:17 Exa: Snapping should look like [http://puu.sh/pbmd2/3c76ad44ba.jpg this]
13:17 Exa: Or like [http://puu.sh/pbmef/64e2e21e77.jpg this] if there are 1/4 beats
13:17 _Meep_: Yeah,they're all on reds and whites now
13:18 Exa: Careful so that you also use 1/4 when needed
13:18 Exa: 00:27:868 - like here, this is a 1/4 beat
13:18 Exa: of the vocals
13:19 _Meep_: Im always using 1/4 XD
13:19 Exa: But there are not always beats on 1/4
13:19 _Meep_: Yea
13:19 Exa: You must use 1/2 or 1/4 according to whether or not there are beats there
13:19 _Meep_: must 1/2 really be used sometimes?
13:20 Exa: 1/2 must be used 98% of the time
13:20 Exa: 1/4 must be used when there are beats
13:20 Exa: 00:27:868 - This is a 1/4 beat
13:20 Exa: for example ^
13:20 Exa: Something like that is not always there
13:20 Exa: You can take a look at other maps to better understand how this works
13:21 _Meep_: Wait a min,leme go snap everything.. XD
13:21 Exa: Alright
13:25 _Meep_: done
13:25 _Meep_: lol
13:25 Exa: sound better?
13:25 _Meep_: I guess
13:25 Exa: egh, still not sure?
13:25 Exa: Imma do it for you cause I have no idea what you did
13:25 _Meep_: The last note
13:25 Exa: ?
13:26 _Meep_: The last note after the spinner
13:26 _Meep_: I can't get it to sound right -.-
13:26 Exa: can you send me the time?
13:26 _Meep_: How
13:26 Exa: just select the note, do ctrl+c to copy, open the chat and do ctrl+v to past it in here
13:27 _Meep_: 01:31:954 (1) -
13:27 Exa: alright gimmie a sec
13:27 _Meep_: Maybe its just me,idk
13:27 _Meep_: is it wrong?
13:28 Exa: 01:31:725 - The slider should end here
13:28 Exa: 01:31:897 - the note should be here
13:28 Exa: Don't use 1/3, 1/6, 1/4 to get a sound right
13:29 Exa: Once you have the correct BPM and offset, using 1/2 will get it right for you
13:29 _Meep_: then use wat -.-
13:29 Exa: 12
13:29 Exa: 1/2
13:29 Exa: You have offset 175 and BPM 183 still right?
13:29 _Meep_: Yes
13:29 Exa: 01:31:897 - If yes there should be a red tick on this timestamp
13:29 _Meep_: Wait no
13:29 Exa: .....................
13:30 _Meep_: Leme go change it XXD
13:30 _Meep_: Just now it was 174.89
13:30 _Meep_: for bpm
13:30 _Meep_: and 183 for offset >_>
13:30 _Meep_: But it sounded right tbh
13:30 Exa: It's supposed to be 175
13:31 Exa: That's why you couldn't get the last sound
13:31 _Meep_: Is there a way to autosnap all notes?
13:31 Exa: 99.99999% of the time, the offset is not decimal
13:31 Exa:
http://puu.sh/pbmO5/4843629d74.png13:31 _Meep_: So offset 175 and BPM 183?
13:31 Exa: But it's not very reliable so you should check back
13:31 Exa: yup
13:32 _Meep_: dafuq -.-
13:32 _Meep_: everytime I check the snap to new timing boxes,it unchecks itself
13:33 Exa: Never happened to me before, don't know why that happens
13:33 Exa: Try just resnapping a small portion
13:33 Exa: Don't resnap them all now
13:33 Exa: Just resnap some of them to see that the timing is right
13:34 _Meep_: Hmm
13:34 _Meep_: Wait
13:35 _Meep_: Ima update and send you the 174 bpm one,see if its right,I cant seem to snap the ones in 183,and it sounds too fast in1 83,the triples are faster
13:35 Exa: 175 bpm
13:35 Exa: not 174
13:35 Exa: it's 175 bpm and 183 offset
13:35 _Meep_: U said 183 bpm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
13:35 _Meep_: look up XD
13:36 Exa:
http://puu.sh/pbmZI/f9fa0aea46.png13:36 Exa: Oh yeah I said it reverse once
13:36 _Meep_: XD
13:36 _Meep_: Then I repeated,and u said yes again
13:36 Exa: It's 175 BPM and 183 offset
13:36 Exa: yeah I thought I said it right
13:36 _Meep_: Kk now it sounds pretty good
13:36 Exa: thank god >.<
13:37 _Meep_: Updated it.
13:37 _Meep_: I changed some notes as well
13:37 Exa: Looks much better aint it?
13:37 Exa: Alright, I just wanted to help with the timing since it looked pretty messed up
13:38 Exa: Imma post the IRC in the thread \o/