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KuranteMelodii wrote:

Slick, you can't give kd if someone had already modded your map once
and where he gave me kd before? lol
-Atri-
Oh wait, my bad
Charles445
Overall changelog from previous qualified version.

00:36:493 (2,3) - Moved downwards a little (To overlap 2 with 1?)
00:58:404 (1) - Moved up a little (not sure why but it's moved)
01:38:937 (8,9) - Moved down a little (to make stream more curved throughout)
02:00:257 (2) - Shortened 1/4 (to avoid overextending)
02:00:763 (3) - Moved up and to the left (to have better spacing / movement with the new slider)
02:05:145 (1) - Shortened 1/4 (to avoid overextending)
02:05:651 (3) - Slider shape remade (for smoother movement)
02:05:988 (4,5,6) - Jumps repositioned (for better movement with the new slider)
02:11:887 (1) - Shortened 1/4 (to avoid overextending, also makes the stream a bit easier)
02:12:392 (2,3,4) - Moved up and to the right (to fit the new slider setup)
02:23:853 (7) - Moved to the left (for spacing presumably)
02:25:033 (5,6,1) - Jump angle changed (not sure why but it still works)
02:25:875 (2,3,1) - Manually stacked (for readability probably since it's up in the corner)
04:20:988 (6,7) - Changed from a single 1/2 slider into 1/4 stream jumps (that's a scary change but it works surprisingly well...)
04:33:460 - Added finish (sounds nice)

Seems the bit at 00:33:965 (3,4) - is still debated (TBH I think both variants work for different reasons), so it'd be bad to re-bubble as-is.

Slick if you have an idea for a single slider at 00:33:965 - it would probably save a lot of trouble with rebubbling since I think the players okay with two objects won't mind if it's suddenly one.

If not then I can just go find Fycho and see if the current version is good for a rebubble
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Slick
changed to a 1/1 slider
Charles445
Going through the dq post again

00:43:235 (1,2) - I think this is super easy, but it is possible to squeeze out smaller spacing just by making 2 a bit more flat https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4752491
02:02:280 - I think this part works pretty good honestly, combining vocals and the instruments is tough, and it makes a good parallel with 3 and 6.
02:27:055 - It's definitely a more difficult jump section than before, but not by a lot, just to fit the new slider velocity (which I think makes sense)

So I think just consider making 00:43:235 easier / not as big, while still maintaining that clockwise motion you're going for, and then I should be safe to re-bubble since that'll account for it all
Charles445
Map updated, I got poked about it

Okay these are the changes as an addendum to the previous post

00:33:965 (3) - This got changed into a single object. This should be good news for everyone, haha
00:43:235 (1,2,3) - This was made slightly easier (was fine but this is... more fine? I think)
03:32:448 (3) - This is slower now so it's easier to follow (test-play related apparently)


Okay, I think that's everything.
You still need to get another bubble and qualify, as usual for approval.

Putting an icon on here.
Bubble #1
jonathanlfj
#2
BeatofIke
Okay, have your flame back~
Myxo
Great that you improved the extended slider usage. Congratz!
-Kanzaki

Desperate-kun wrote:

Great that you improved the extended slider usage. Congratz!
Mao
Grats!
RikiH_
Guys, sorry for annoying here, really, but:


Shouldn't this be "produced"? My english is not good so I'm probably wrong, but can someone explain this to me?

Ps: Great map, really
Avishay
^

Could be replaced with 'producement' as it fits, too.
-Kanzaki
I don't think it is a real problem
-Atri-
I guess it follows the OP movie, There's the same typo on there



With all the honest, how they can make an eroge that doesn't supposed have so many goddamn moe lolis?
RikiH_
Oh okay then, sorry!
Arphimigon
Yay!
Khora
Well done map! Prob my fav this year so far :)
moya

Khora wrote:

Well done map! Prob my fav this year so far :)
nicememe
Liiraye
Hey mate, I was finally able to download the map lol.

So regardless of what I feel about the sliders early on (which has improved), the wub parts are really fkn cool. However I found a lot of inconsistencies in the NCing. While I do see that you NC a great deal of sliderchanges, there are sliders going from 0,75x to 1,5x SV without proper NC's to point them out.

04:12:224 (2) - from 1x to 1,5x
04:27:814 (2) - 0,75x to 1,5x
04:28:572 (3,4,5) - 1x to 0,5x to 1x to 1,25x without NC's
04:29:920 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - 1,25x to 0,8x to 1,6x then back to 0,8x with no indication of sv changes
04:32:617 (4) - 1,3x to 0,68x

there are also a great deal of 0,20-0,30x changes that doesn't have NC's, but I haven't listed them. I just looked at a small portion of the last kiai and found this. What's the reasoning behind using a lot of NC's to show SV changes in places like 03:09:359 (6,1,1) - 03:11:213 (1,1,1,1) - 04:15:932 (1,1,1,1) - 02:58:741 (1,1) - , but not do it consistently throughout the map, especially with such big changes in speed?

You're being consistently inconsistent in NCing, as you're doing the same inconsistencies throughout the map, which is the only thing I can see that would somehow justify it, but how can that justify SV changes of almost 1x difference with no NC? Maybe I'm missing something important here, I tried getting other opinions but nobody really had anything to say so I'm posting here for clarification. Before someone jumps the DQ, I'd like to hear what the mapper has to say as I might have missed something (he's not online atm).

EDIT: Reason why I brought this up was because I'm working on a similar styled map that I'm planning to rank soon, and want to know how NC's ought to be handled, because I NC every slider and has always been told that's how you should do (especially big sv changes)

Just realized it's actually ranked... welp
also BIG congrats for first ranked map!!!!!!
Charles445

Liiraye wrote:

Just realized it's actually ranked... welp
This has happened to me way too many times to count LOL
Still, feedback like that is good for future sets
Khora

Fyre wrote:

Khora wrote:

Well done map! Prob my fav this year so far :)
nicememe
i dont get why people hate on this map so much. It has such an unique flow and plays very well :?
Spaghetti

KuranteMelodii wrote:

I guess it follows the OP movie, There's the same typo on there



With all the honest, how they can make an eroge that doesn't supposed have so many goddamn moe lolis?
holy shit props to slick for being accurate LOL
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