Haxwell asked me for a mod Tell me when all things are ready.
Sure, will do!! :3Doyak wrote:
Haxwell asked me for a mod Tell me when all things are ready.
Thanks! Glad you like it! :3Fuwzie wrote:
Nice map!
Thank you!! ;w;Lally wrote:
Have a starru o3o will come back when is pending u3u Haxwell insisted to much to say no ♥
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Doyak wrote:
no kudosu as I already got aye!
Omg sorry for being late... No worries, good mods take time. :3
[General]
* As far as I know, if you don't have a storyboard, you need to turn off Widescreen Support. oops, fixed.
* You can literally cut off after 300ms on soft-hitwhistle3.wav. It's 100% muted after that, so it only makes the file bigger to have 1400ms muted section. (wav file is really big compared to mp3) I didn't even notice, fixed! (fun fact: both files are 295kb xD)
* 00:37:911 - 01:39:626 - 02:33:626 - I think it's much better to start the kiais on here and also start NC from here. You know, there's a 'foundation effect' when the kiai is triggered. It's better when it appears on the downbeat and also the instruments together start to be intense. Yesss, changed.
[Easy]
So you made an easier diff now, that's good. the more diffs, the better!
* On the first place, if you'd make an easier diff than Normal, I hoped it doesn't have any 1/2 beats at all (not red line, but the gaps or 1/2 sliders) as Normal is already an easy Normal. Having 1/2 beats itself is pretty hard, so there's not much gap between Easy and Normal now. It's not a big problem, but to be honest, you could never use any 1/2s on this diff and go with 2/1 beats primarily.
Another thing that bugs me is that, since the sv is extremely slow on this diff, 1/2 sliders look really short, and I think it's even harder for newbies to 'read' such gaps. In the perspective of newbies, readability is much more important than just being slow.
It's still enough to be the lowest diff (and to be named as an Easy), so it should be fine. Just my 2 cents that could make this mapset more balanced.
I think I changed basically all of them. ovo
* 00:09:840 (3) - 00:13:268 (3) - 00:16:697 (3) - Even though they fit with the music well, as you already have that Normal to put this kind of hard rhythm, I think it's enough to keep 1/1s here. The guitar sound still supports 1/1s, so rhythm simplication would be better for newbie's gameplay. changed
* 00:26:983 (4) - 01:11:554 (3) - 01:14:983 (3) - Oh especially for this one, I don't think it really needs to be 1/2. Just follow consistent 1/1 drum here. changed
* 00:39:197 (2) - 00:41:768 (2,3) - Compare these two. The former one keeps following the drum sound even though the vocal on 00:39:411 - is the strongest. But on the latter one, you could just keep following the drum to represent 00:42:626 - 00:43:054 - but you chose the vocal there. I recommend to change the latter part because as I said, this diff doesn't really need 1/2s and I think it's more important to provide more simpler rhythm for newbies. Actually if I were you, I would use http://puu.sh/nCzYc/fb22260a1c.jpg for the former part because that's definitely really strong, while I'd use http://puu.sh/nCzZA/dc46403c9f.jpg for the latter one because it still fits with the main drums and it's easier. Same goes for similar parts, check them yourself. I kept the first part as it is, because leaving a beat blank before the vocals feels wrong, but I changed the latter to the same rhythm as the first in all Kiais!
* 01:03:626 (2) - Reverse a 3/2 slider? this part's drum is fun, so why not represent it? Same for 01:07:054 (2) - 02:05:341 (2) - 02:58:483 (2) - . It doesn't increase the difficulty much xD I love the idea! Changed
* 01:15:626 (1) - You can reduce it to a 3/2 slider too as the vocal pitch there is strong. Oh you did it 01:29:340 (1) - nicely I prefer to kepp the 2/1 here, because the beat's more dominant
* 01:52:483 (3,1) - fix this blanket I knew I had to do that someday. >:C
* 02:43:054 (1) - Oh this on the other hand, doesn't need to be a 3/2 because 1/1 drums are prominent here... try http://puu.sh/nCAjI/76d8b4e5f7.jpg I prefer the 3/2 here, because the melody of the first sliderpart repeats and I didn't want to split this into two sliders.
[Normal]
* I think you could use CS 3.5 here as the map seems to be pretty dense, and also for the sake of widening the gap between Easy and reducing with Advanced. And the 1/2 overlaps feel too deep, reducing the circle size would help it less overlapped too. I agree, changed CS.
* 00:19:911 (4,5) - the clap on the middle is strong as you were representing, so how about http://puu.sh/nCArm/cbb6befd25.jpg ? sure, changed. also changed 00:33:626 (4,5) - cause it's basically the same.
* 00:36:840 - add a circle? It would represent the drum sound well and make it less boring. I want to keep the little 'gap' in-between (1,2), because I imagine it to be very tiring to click almost every beat. Also, I ended the first slider on the downbeat where the new sound starts, so I'd have to split it up to emphasize this correctly. And I prefer the simple rhythm here over the other.
* 00:50:340 - add a circle here too, this drum is strong. yep, added
* 01:03:626 (2) - 02:05:340 (2) - o.o if you accept my suggestion on Easy then this would be a must... tbh 01:01:911 (1,2) - these long sliders feel too boring while the song is intense... For this diff, you can even do http://puu.sh/nCAKw/820ee61d71.jpg this yep, went with the suggested rhythm :3
* 01:38:340 - 01:52:054 - add a circle changed the first because stronger beat than before the first Kiai, and sthe second too because changed this in the other Kiai as well.
* 02:58:483 (3,4,5) - 3/2 drum term is really strong, so why not represent 02:59:126 - in some way? I did, but the combo was too long, just as you mentioned in your first mod. ;-;
* 03:03:626 (1,2) - Ahhh too boring, fill something out please like http://puu.sh/nCAUc/a23b871b8b.jpg changed differently
[Advanced]
* 00:36:840 - Same as Normal added here
* 01:06:197 (3) - As the sound is strong on 01:06:411 - , I'd suggest this intead: http://puu.sh/nCB4O/7e0db90a9c.jpg or use 2 circles for 3 on that picture I only shortened (3) because there's a little break in the beat
* 01:22:483 (1) - Personally I don't think this represents the song well... the music suddenly 'stops' there but the notes are not stopping at all. Could you explain why you use this thing on higher diffs? Maybe something like http://puu.sh/nCBd8/39fc6dbd6e.jpg is understandable if you slow down the brown slider, but clicking on the downbeat and keeping the speed doesn't make sense imo. changed the rhythm, but didn't slow it down, cause I don't feel like a slow down matches here. Yes, it's a different sound that kinda fades out, but overall the pace feels the same.
* 01:38:340 - Yeah again like Normal, why leave this strong drum empty? yup changed.
* 02:43:054 (1,2) - This doesn't fit. 1/1 term is strong there... so using 1/2 repeat sliders doesn't make sense... as the stronger beats 02:43:483 - 02:43:911 - are not clicked while the weaker beat 02:43:697 - is clicked... Same for 02:56:768 (1,2) - I kind of agree that the reverses didn't fit, but I find the melody more important than the beat on the 3rd white tick, so I changed the rhythm for something more simple. :3
[Hard]
* 00:34:054 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Maybe a bit harsh to click that much for this part. Use some sliders maybe? I wouldn't call it harsh, it's a little more to click than before, but it's the built-up to the Kiai so that's fine, imo. That's just the song becoming more intense.
* 00:36:197 (1,2) - I think click should be on 00:36:840 - instead of 00:36:626 - because that's how the drum sounds. Maybe, reverse (1) and put a circle after that. changed, replaced (2) with two circles tho.
* 01:22:483 (1) - Yee same with Advanced yep, changed.
* 02:14:340 (2,3,4) - Persoanlly it would be great if you highlight 02:14:554 (3) - in some way. Right now, it's just in the middle of the stacks so it's not emphasized at all, but the drum there is stronger than others. Same for 02:16:268 (3) - nice catch, changed!
* 02:45:411 (3) - Unlike the previous kiais, here doesn't have 1/4 drums so it's overmapped. Try some 1/2 pattern here. oooh, ya. changed!
[Insane]
* Not much to say individually, but the spacing of notes looks pretty unstable, like 00:09:626 (4,5,6) - why the ds became 1.40 suddenly while it was 1.60 before actually, it was 1.4 before, but I changed it to 1.6 because these two sounds are stronger and stand out from the other sounds.
or 00:16:911 (6,1) - 00:17:768 (2,4) - these blankets have different distance which looks untidy, and so on. I think you can make them look neater.
well, they're at no point visible at the same time while playing, so I don't really mind.
* Also the points you put jumps feels inconsistent too, like 00:38:340 (2,3,4,5,1) - has no jumps, but 00:45:197 (2,3,4,5) - these are jumps that gets bigger, 00:52:054 (2,3,4,5,1) - these gets smaller, 00:58:911 (2,3,4,5,1) - random distance jump... idk how to say this, but this kind of inconsistency doesn't feel good imo...
hmmh, I guess I could change that, but I don't feel like there's any need to, because personally I _love_ ireggular spacing in Insane. I just used jumps at places where I felt the music becomes stronger/louder/more intense in some way, and sometimes I just increased spacing a little to avoid overlaps (like 00:45:197 (2,3,4,5) - where 4 shouldn't overlap with 00:44:768 (1) - because it makes this unnecessarily hard to read).
The rhythms look good, but personally I don't like random spacings. Like I said, I really like them for some reason, so I don't plan on changing them >-<
Ok that's all from me. Good luck! (and wow you're a BN, can I call you on my map later? xD)
Thanks a lot again! :3 I owe you one, so feel free to drop me a note with your map! I can't promise anything, tho.
Doyak wrote:
[Aia's Insane]
* 00:46:054 (6,1) - jump like 00:39:197 (10,1) - Fixed
* 00:52:911 (6,1) - Same, but why 00:52:697 (5,6) - is jump here now? It's different than before. Fixed
* 01:36:626 (2,3,4) - Why suddenly a triplet? It looks too random and I don't hear a legit 1/4s Had a chat with Natsu about this, and decided to keep it and see what a BN for this map will say.
* 01:54:197 (5,1) - ^ I don't know what you mean with this one.
* 02:14:554 (3,4,5) - I know you're trying to emphasize, but a moving triplet is too overdone imo, I would just use a 1/2 slider and put a jump instead. Don't think it's overdone at all.
* 02:22:054 (6,7) - 02:22:911 (2,3) - 02:23:768 (6,7) - Using stacks is weird imo, there's literally no difference from other similar ones but why only those? It only makes the cursor stop moving with no reason. Fixed
* 03:00:197 - I think you used tooooo shrinked ds here, it almost looks like a Hard. You didn't use this small ds even on 00:07:054 - , while 03:01:697 - feels even intense. I think this part should be like sub-kiai. This is too easy. I like having it this way, it's supposed to become a lot easier towards the end so this is fine. (Asked Natsu about this one too)
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Diasios wrote:
Yo!
[General]
- • Try Offset: 3634, seems better but I might be wrong.
I'll try after applying all mods, thank you!
• How about you use these combo colours? I think they fits with your BG/video: (increase saturation a bit if you think these colours are too dull) I prefer my colours, sorry.
[Easy]
- • Check AiMod, there are unsnapped objects. eep, all fixed!
• 01:12:626 (2) - How about a ~ shape for a better flow? Or just flip this slider horizzontally and rotate it a little. Oh, I like the ~ idea, changed
• 02:05:341 (2,1) - Flip this slider too, for example you could do something like this: changed differently!
• 02:31:054 (2) - Start a slider here and end it at 02:31:911, I think it fits here. I don't want to end the slider here, because the beats stop 1/4 beat before and on the white tick is only the vocals which is not enough for me to map this in lower diffs. I didn't even map it in any other except for Insane
• 03:10:483 (1) - How about ending this spinner at 03:17:340? Seems better imo. I get the point, but I prefer to end the spinner earlier, because long spinners are super tiring and especially in Easy that would be too much.
[Normal]
- • 00:14:340 (2) - I don't like the flow here, if I were you I'd rotate this slider a little and curve it upwards or use this 00:12:197 (3) slider again, maybe reversed and flipped horizzontally. ye, changed
• 02:29:340 (1) - End this spinner at 02:31:911 or just add a circle there. Nah, same reason as in Easy; want to keep the vocals blank
• 03:06:197 (x) - Add a circle or another 1/2 slider like this one 03:06:626 (2). sure
• 03:10:483 (1) - Same suggestion I did before, end this spinner at 03:17:340. * as in Easy
[Advanced]
- • 00:26:340 (5,6,7) - Try this spacing, it flows way better: changed differently
• 00:35:340 (3) - You could shape this slider like this one 00:37:054 (1), I kinda like it more: I prefer the curved one here .o.
• 02:29:340 (1) - Add a spinner like you did on Normal to keep consistency between your diffs. I don't want to add a spinner here because I want it to be different from Normal tbh. But I'm thinking about removing the spinner in Easy again, to keep that consistent with all other diffs~~
• 02:31:911 (x) - Add a circle. * as in prev diffs
• 03:10:483 (1) - End this spinner at 03:17:340. * this, too
[Hard]
- • 02:29:340 (1) - Add a spinner like you did on Normal to keep consistency between your diffs.
• 02:31:911 (x) - Add a circle here and another one at 02:32:340, you could also make them stack with this slider 02:32:768 (1) like Aia did on his/her diff:
• 03:10:483 (1) - End this spinner at 03:17:340.
* for all
[Insane]
- • 00:37:054 (1) - I don't think this NC is necessary, remove it. Oh, I wanted this NC to be consistent with 01:38:768 (1) - and 02:31:911 (1) - so I'll keep that
• 01:10:268 (1) - I hate the fact that the end of this slider doesn't stack with this 01:09:197 (3) circle; move this slider a bit down or rotate it a little: oke
• 01:38:768 (1) - Remove this NC, if you really want it then move it here 01:39:197 (4) and consider removing this NC 01:39:626 (1) as well. (don't forget this 01:51:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) pattern, consistency is a nice thing to have in your map)
Ah, already mentioned this above. But ye, should be consistent with the last stream too so I added NC here 01:52:483 - and also in the other Kiais at 00:50:768 - and 02:45:626 (1) -
• 02:22:483 (5,1) - Move the NC on the previous circle. oops. Fixed!
• 02:29:340 (1) - Add a spinner like you did on Normal to keep consistency between your diffs. *
• 03:10:483 (1) - End this spinner at 03:17:340. * not because it's too much ta higher diffs, but I prefer all diffs to end at the same time with exceptiosn of GDs ofc :3
Slayed wrote:
hello is it m4m or whatever
easy diffs look very nice and neat, so ill take a look at the insanes
the only thing is adv has hp4 and hard has hp6, thats not really good didn't notice that, changed to 4.5 for now!ins
thats really strange how do u miss the vocals. for example, aia missed them too, but at least not all of them. so i suggest u to rearrange the part before this bookmark 00:34:483 - and add some 1/1 sliders that will miss the big white ticks I don't want to miss big white ticks when there's a beat there, because they are some silent ones and the silent ones already are mapped with 1/1s.
00:15:411 (1) - its offscreen a bit fixed!
00:55:268 (2) - probably u could stack this note with the end of this 00:56:554 (1) - slider, since u didnt use such overlaps before sure
01:02:983 (4,5,6,1) - i expected to see a bit bigger spacing in this part.. check 00:41:340 (1,2,3,4) - these jumps that are mapped on the vocals. compare to the jumps u got 01:02:983 (4,5,6,1) - here, they seem to be just too small I made them different on purpose, because the first ones have the vocals too which makes the song more lively and the smaller ones are mapped to the beat since there are no vocals, so the spacing is different.
01:16:268 (4,6) - probably u could unstack them for the better playability there shouldn't be any problem with readabilty, there's so much time between the objects öö
01:34:483 (1,2,3,4) - what is this spacing? looks kinda strange I don't have any problem with them, but changed. should be better now
01:37:697 (8,1) - this pattern is a bit hard to play, caz most players will start streaming from this slider and they will probably sliderbreak or miss.. http://cs631518.vk.me/v631518809/1d1dc/aZhzdKPLUvE.jpg - i suggest u to use smth like this I want (8) to be different from the stream cause it's a different sound but I'll keep that in mind. Might change it later!
02:13:911 - check mod on aia's diff for this part oh, thanks. fixed!
02:28:697 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - small suggestions about this stream: http://cs631518.vk.me/v631518809/1d1e3/4Aq6oQuyabo.jpg (converted from the long wave slider) changed differently
probably thats all, good diff
the only thing is strange jumps, theit problem is random spacing, caz in vocal parts its bigger than in jumps bass parts lol. check that and it will be fine Ye, as I said, that was kinda my intention, but I'm not too fimilar with mapping Insanes so I'll work on them eventually! :3
hope this will help u It did, thank you!
Shmiklak wrote:
M4M
Hey ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Aloha! :3General
- Nothing \:D/
Easy
- 00:03:626 (1) - I all understand but this 1/2 rythm a bit hard for newbies. Better make std 1/1 rythm http://puu.sh/nPIl3/630c1c4063.jpg well, it might be hard if they were used to 1/1 rhythm already, but this is the very first object and there is nothing they can compare the distance to, so maybe they get confused by the 1/1 later on, but I really doubt it. I need them at some parts anyway, because there are sooo many strong sounds on the 1/2s, so I figured it's bet to introduce them early :3
- 00:05:340 (2) - Same * same too
- 00:23:340 (3) - U broke flow imo. Fix it pls I like the flow. o-o
- Ignoring of these beats 01:16:054 - 01:16:911 - a bit confusing me. U have same problem in all diff. There is a slidertick to emphasize them. o:
- 02:13:911 (1) - I suggest make this http://puu.sh/nPIOn/f485461f0d.jpg It better complies to music.
- 02:15:626 (2) - Same for this
- 02:17:340 (1,2) - ^ I want to keep this parts as simple as possible, because it's different from the rest of the song and imo it's more intersting to map it diffreently then, too.
Nice diff, but u missing some strong diffs and imo it's not really cool
I know what you mean! I feel bad for the ignored beats but there's no way around ignoring some when mapping Easy diffs. :cNormal
I didn't found anything, but using DS lower then in Easy lol
Well, why not? DS works with SV and that's different :bAdvanced
- 00:53:126 (5,6) - Pls fix blanket oh, sure!
I didn't found moreHard
Nothing. Sorry.Insane
- 00:15:411 (1) - Offscreen object. Hitobjects must never be off-screen. It's RC. yes, fixed that! c:
Best of luck!!!! Hope for rank!!! Thank you!
CSLM wrote:
hi, m4m hi o/General
- i suggest delete the kiai between 02:46:483 - and 02:47:983 - make a wowz feeling, really cool :3
I prefer to keep it as it is, because depending on the diffs there are some rhythms starting at 02:46:483 - and it feels weird to end Kiai there if I pick it up again immediately afterwards. But the idea is quite nice. :3Easy
- 00:15:197 (2,3) - idk about this polarity change, 'cause before you only follow 1/1 snaps Actually, there are some 3/2s, too, but a, it feels off to leave the beat blank here, so changed!
- 00:42:626 (2,1) - blanket? sure
- 02:13:911 (1,2) - why not make the of the same arc? flows better imo I prefer the current sliders, because variety. ;w;
- 02:31:054 (2) - delete this circle, doesn't follow anything, and make a weird feeling imo It does, it's the same sound as 02:29:340 -
[Normal
- 00:36:626 - you should add a circle here, the drums are very audible, also before you only follow 1/1 and 1/2 ah, I wanted to keep this part simple, but since it's being mentioned quite often, changed! :3
- 02:29:340 (1) - this spinner... idk, you didn't add it in the another diffs, also it should end in 02:31:911 - which is where the vocal start and the noisy sound ends Ye, changed!
- 03:01:054 (2,3,4) - this is very unusual, you didn't make it in any another part of the diff, and could be confusing, imo is better delete (3), make (2) 1/1, move (4) to 03:01:697 - and make it 2/3
- 03:05:768 - again, add a circle, the beat is very audible changed
- 03:07:054 (1) - make it 2/1 better, now it doen't make a nice feeling changed
Advanced
- 00:21:411 - add a circle, it doesn't follow so much the song that unmapped part, also doesn't make consistency with the next patterns, also with 00:25:207 - oops, fixed
- 00:42:197 (3,4) - *nazi* they aren't parallel :c fixed
- 00:43:911 (6) - making a 2/3 slider doesn't prepare the players for a major challenge, 'cause in the Normal diff you make the same, meanwhile in the Hard diff you make a Triplet and a Quintuplet. I suggest adding 2 1/2 sliders, or at least 1 1/1 slider and add a circle in 00:44:554 - same with 00:57:626 (6) - 01:45:626 (6) - 01:59:340 (6) - 02:38:768 (6) - and 02:52:483 (6) - True, I changed all. There probably are some more things un-fitting for Adv diff, as this was suppposed to be the Normal and only later on got changed to Adv
- 02:17:340 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern is confusing. The pattern of before (02:13:911 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ) follow the guitar pitch, and this one only follow the drums. The main problem is that when the players are playing the first pattern, they're thinking that the mapping is following the Guitar, but then changing the pattern to the drums (specially in the same part) could be confusing. There's more ways of make variation, but try of keep the same polarity in the diff (specially low diffs). I'll see what I can do to improve that! c:
- 02:31:054 (1) - delete this circle, for the same reason that i said in Easy (*)
- 02:43:054 (1,2,3,4,5) - again, try of keep the consistency. The kiais of before make the 1/1 clickeables, why the change? I changed it here, because in this Kiai the vocals become stronger, so I'm emphasizing them more
- 02:56:768 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ (*)
- 03:00:840 - add a circle, the guitar sound is very strong
- 03:07:697 - ^ both added
Hard
- 00:24:840 - add a circle, as i said before, making a 1/1 space after so many 1/2 is strange, and unconsistent fixed
- 00:36:626 (2,3) - this DS change looks unnecesary, because 00:37:054 (1,2) - have the same intensity (even a major one for the vocal) and they're with the same 1.2x DS of always Feels to me like they are different, because they are really strong drums where the DS change is
- 00:41:554 (2,5) - overlap, try of stack them, it would look better imo changed differently
- 00:49:054 - make this clickeable, as you make in the low diffs. Leave it without click doesn't follow so much the song, because those beats are very strong. Please don't skip them, same with 01:02:768 - 01:50:768 - 02:43:911 - hmmh, changed
- 02:06:626 (5,6,7,8,1) - try of avoid this. The people who'll pass the Advanced diff won't be ready for a pattern like this well, if they're able to hit the triplets, two more circles shouldn't kill them. :/ And I want to introduce short streams in this diff as there are are longer ones in the Insane.
- 02:17:340 (1) - make this a hitcircle, for consistency in the patterns There's a different background sound here, so I want to keep this. <:
- 02:31:054 (1) - delete, i said it before in Easy (*)
- 02:45:197 (2,3) - don't make a stack after a kick slider. (3) could be confused with a stream ooh, sure! Fixed!
- 02:59:768 (5,6,7,8) - again, people won't be ready for a quintuplet (*)
Insane
- 00:07:911 (5,6,1) - this pattern doesn't make a good flow, mostly because (1) is a broken slider, instead of a curve, which it makes an strange flow imo 'cause it's so sudden. I didn't find it that bad, but changed, because might be better for some people. :3
- 00:16:054 (2,3,4,5) - this jumps are not working right, they're making a bad sensation. (2) and (3) are going to the right (which is good), but (4) and (5) aren't, that's the main problem. (4) and (5) must go to the right for make this same feeling of remoteness that you're making with (2) and (3). 00:16:697 (5,6) - this 2 have to got the longest space, for make it work (also it fits very well with the intensity, due both are following the claps) changed the pattern completely
- 00:21:626 (3) - move this to x481 y204. Make 00:21:626 (3,4) - angle more soft and match better with 00:22:054 (5,6) - giving a better flow I think the current flow is better, also I don't want to add a jump on (3), that doesn't make any sense
- 00:28:483 (4,1) - this stack looks weird if you ask me, because they're not of the same way (even if they're going in the same direction). Making (4) curve face down would be better. Face down because 00:28:911 (5) - is down ;3 Doesn't look weird to me and I really like how it plays, so I'll keep it for now. >-<
- 00:49:054 - again, make it clickeable, same with similars Yep, changed
- 01:11:768 (6) - i think this would be more stylish if you move it to x307 y119 (between 01:11:125 (3,4) - ) That flows extremely bad, imo. D:
- 01:22:268 (6,1) - make this as you make in the Hard and Advanced diff, a slider since 01:22:268 - to 01:22:804 - , 01:22:483 - is a empty noise, that's why it shouldn't be emphatized oke
- 02:31:054 (1) - well, you know what i'm going to say here ;3 Yessss, but same here. ;w;
- 03:10:268 (7) - mmm, why don't you move this circle to x171 y44 or anywhere to the left of 03:10:054 (6) - ? would be a great variation imo I can't. :C Well I could, but I have the habit of ending a diff at the exact same coordiante where I started it and I really like that, so keep. >-<
Really nice! i love the song, can i make some taiko diffs? plz Just read that now, oops. D: send you a pm!
And thank you very much for your mod!
Lanturn wrote:
hi hellow! o/
Maybe swap combos 2 and 3? 1 and 2 are really similar so it's hard to tell them apart sometimes. Oh. Sure!
mostly rhythm mod?
[Easy]
The only thing I found a little strange was that you skipped the powerful vocals and drums every time at places like 00:38:340 - throughout the song. I really think they should be mapped, but up to you. welp, I kinda feel sorry for these beats, but I wanted to keep this as easy as possible, so I prefer to keep them like this. (At least there are sliderticks so there is at least something. >-<)[Normal]
- 02:46:483 (1,2) - small DS error, doesn't really matter but yeah. oops, killed it
- 02:31:054 (2) - Because this is a fade out note, it doesn't really feel comfortable to play. Personally a think a second small break here would be best. I'd recommend this for Easy and Normal at the very least. It's fine, imo. (Replied in more detail to this in prev mod)
- 02:47:340 (2,3) - I really do think you should go with a 3/2 reverse here. First off, you place the (3) in the middle of the drums so the only feedback you get is the bass kick when 1/2 later you get a much more powerful sound. The last snare before it was 1/1 where you play 02:47:340 - So this is a good starting point. The other is that the vocals are in the middle leading up to 02:47:983 - where again, it completely dominates. I know you don't like having notes placed on offbeats, so I proposed you use a 3/2 reverse slider starting at 02:47:340 - At least the reverse can hit that crazy note, instead of nothing. I agree, changed!
[Advanced]
- 01:49:911 (1) - Bounce to the beat? http://puu.sh/nXmYf.jpg or http://puu.sh/nXn0m.jpg even. Nice idea, changed!
- 02:29:340 (1) - As I mentioned in Easy, you should probably delete this.. or if you'd rather, extend this to 02:31:911 - which is enough of a gap from the upcoming note. (*)
- 02:59:126 - are you sure you want to skip this? it makes 02:59:340 (4) - feel very underwhelming. A rhythm like http://puu.sh/nXnlu.jpg would feel much better to play at this point... Or if you want consistency, do like 02:05:340 (2,3,4) - which also plays nicely. changed!
- 03:05:768 - normally I'd welcome a nice 2/1 gap like this but it feels a little random at this point... Mostly after the fact you use the 1/2s at 03:06:197 (2,3) - which basically takes you from a 2/1 to 1/2 right away and doesn't lead in to it. changed this with prev mod :3
- 03:06:197 (2,3) - Since the tail of (3) is so powerful. Why not use a 1/2 reverse and then a circle where the tail of (3) was? changed differently
[Hard]
- 00:22:268 (4,5) - stuff like this there is no drum beat playing on the (5) so it doesn't really make sense to map it this way as the offbeat is more dominant. A rhythm like this suits it better: http://puu.sh/nXoMJ.jpg | you do this at 01:23:983 (5,6) - as well. Fixed!
- 00:35:340 (3,4) - This rhythm? http://puu.sh/nXp38.jpg Where I have the (5) is pretty powerful even if it is lead-in. changed
- 00:43:911 (6) - This is just more of a personal opinion but.. don't you think the 3/2 sliders here don't really work in an advanced? You're doing a lot of 1/1 and 1/2 so making these 3/2 here skips out on a lot of important vocals/drums. It makes perfect sense in Easy, and even Normal, but I think Advanced should probably avoid using them. Just a thought. Either or, it works regardless.. It just felt odd to play at this difficulty level. 00:57:626 (6) - 01:45:626 (6) - 01:59:340 (6) - 02:38:768 (6) - 02:52:483 (6) - I agree, I (think I have) changed all of them now. This was originally mapped as a Normal so I messed up while changing the diff with stuff like this. >-<
- 02:18:626 (4,8) - Prefer these as circles like 02:15:197 (4,8) - I don't really get a 'hold' vibe from them. changed (4), but kept (8) because of the drumroll
[Insane]
- 01:38:661 (3) - you don't need this (Yes. I know it has sound). It just makes this already complicated rhythm for a hard, even worse. I would also argue that 01:37:804 (5) - while it has sound, could easily be removed to make it more appropriate for the diff. Regardless, the (3) should really be deleted. having multiple types of 1/4 rhythms in a row is undoubtedly very difficult to play for some, and it shouldn't be used in hard difficulties. Good point, deleted both.
- 02:44:768 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this is a good rhythm, and I really think you should use it over 00:49:911 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 01:51:626 (1,2,3,4,5) - since the offbeat 1/4 repeat can get confusing to some. Consider replacing them with this one. I prefer to keep them as they are, because they're all different so I'd like to have them mapped differently, too.
- 00:54:840 (5) - deleting or a 1/2 slider on (4) even would definitely fit better here since there's no real sound to support this. make sure to change everywhere else like 00:40:911 (4,5) - 01:42:626 (4,5) - etc. if you do this. I think about this. I get your point, but the vocals match this nicely so I'm not sure if I want to change this. >-<
- 02:53:340 (1,2) - this can't just be two circles instead? Also you normally don't put the extra reverse on 02:52:483 (4) - even though it does have a sound this time. (see Insane.. You don't use it there either.) I changed (1,2) as suggested, but kept the reverse on (4). That was actually a mistake in Insane, so I fixed that there. >-<
A lot of circular motion... It's nice otherwise, and gives it some nice flow.
I really like circular motion. xD But yes, I need to work on that so it won't stay this monotonous. -don't know how to map Insanes eeh-
Was a bit rushed, but hopefully something can help. Good luck! nice map. Thank you very much, the mod was very helpful! :3
Slayed wrote:
aia
probably if i was a ppmapshater, i would say smth like these jumps are ridiculous and too forced, but in this situation they are really cool and supported by the music. btw i think that for the better effect, you should make them a bit louder, for example check these 02:43:054 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - jumps with 75-80% volume and u will understand (i hope xd)
if u will rank it as it is now, it will be the easiest dtppfarm
hp7 is too high with your pattering, i suggest u to use at least 6.5, 6 will be the best idea
00:19:054 (1,2) - dont understand ur mapping on instruments, when there is pretty strong vocal .-. same goes 00:17:340 (1,2) - here and too some other places. if u dont really want to fix all that, fix at least the first place that i mention
00:29:126 (1) - 1/2 slider with the reverse arrow fits here better imo
01:05:232 (4,5) - spacing error? even if u will make it consistent, it wont change anything. at least nc this if u wont change the spacing
01:09:197 (2,3) - why spacing here is so low? probably u should increase it a bit, since uve never used such low spacing before (00:07:483 (2,3) - even here, in the slow part its lesser)
01:17:983 (3) - maybe a smooth curved slider for a better flow? smth like this http://cs631518.vk.me/v631518809/1d190/prpACmscdBA.jpg
01:34:911 (3,6) - kinda strange minor overlap that doesnt look cool .-.
01:54:197 (5) - what is this slider following?
02:13:911 - 02:19:054 - dont know what u were following while mapping this part, but it should be 1/6 and 1/12, no t 1/4 and 1/8 o.o so. this 02:14:554 (3,4) - should be like this http://cs631518.vk.me/v631518809/1d1a9/Hk_EtuE794Y.jpg, and, for example, this slider should be 02:15:197 (7) - 1/12 kickslider
i may be wrong, ask pro
thats all i think, very good diff
Diasios wrote:
[Aia's Insane]
- • 03:10:483 (1) - End this spinner at 03:17:340, everything else looks fine.
CSLM wrote:
Aia's Insane
- I really enjoyed this diff, i love the jumps, very well structured (how i would love make such so beautiful jumps ;w;)
- 00:05:983 (3,4,5) - why don't you better stack this notes with 00:07:054 (1) - tail? of that way make a nice blanket with 00:06:411 (5) - (which by the way you can make it better)
- 00:10:268 (1) - the first curve it's archer than the second one, is this intentional?
- 00:11:126 (3) - make this slider a little bit more arched, of that way it seems the flow better
- 00:46:268 (1,2,3) - blanket maybe?
- 01:17:126 (1) - make this slider rect instead, flows better imo
- 01:32:768 (1) - Ctrl - G?
- 01:35:768 (7,8) - imo it's better that you delete (8) and make a anti-jump with (7) and 01:36:197 (1) - like you did before
- 02:06:626 (7,8,9,10,1) - this stream is a little bit odd, (1) it's in a position which ruins the pattern imo. It's better make an simple rect stream
- Since 03:00:197 - to the end - i know that is a calm part, but you shouldn't emphaized so much, it looks so strange and ruins the diff itself. Try of make it a little more like you've doing before (but ofc leaving a little effect of softly)
Lanturn wrote:
[Aia]
- 00:52:697 (5,6) - A bit close to each other. I think the (5) would be better off if played to the top right of (3) at around like x460 y28
- 02:29:340 (1) - spinner would make more sense to end back at 02:31:054 - or where the upcoming note is.. which probably isn't an option. Consider moving this back 1/1
- 02:18:090 (4) - doesn't actually hit anything. the drum hit plays on the 1/8 at 02:18:036 -
Lasse wrote:
aia
movement is really nice
- 00:36:626 (3) - why'd you stack a clap under a weak beat? it doesn't really work imo
00:39:197 (10) - is even weirder in that aspect, since you space this pattern normally in both other kiais
most of your other stacks make way more sense to me xd- 00:49:911 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - 01:51:626 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 02:44:768 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you could probably decide on how you want to combos this :v
- 01:05:340 (5) - could nc for emphasis + your typical nc on downbeat. also looks less like you misplaced the last note of the stream that way
also 02:07:054 - there you did it- 01:06:911 - wtf is the snap here o 1/8 and 1/6 ?? a 1/6 kickslider on 01:06:911 - sounds correct to me and would also not mess up acc or anything due to the weird snap
- 01:08:126 - drums before were clicked and this is put on a sliderend, even if the slider doesnt really work with any held sound? how about shortening 01:07:697 (4) - to 1/2 and adding a circle?
- 01:38:768 (1,2) - if you overlap them anyways you might as well use the ds of the following stream whcih would look nicer imo
- 02:14:554 (3,4,5) - sound on 3 is so much stronger than 5, yet making this a triple puts much more emphasis on the latter. if you want to put a 1/4 here, a kickslider would work better
02:16:268 (3,4,5) - too
same for the two similar triples after- 02:38:768 (1,2,3) - rip consistency, this was spaced both other times and doesnt sound really different here
02:42:840 (6,7,1) - too
02:56:554 (6,7,1) -
they even feel overmapped to me ad nothing really justifies clickable 1/4 and if you do sth liek that at least don't shift the emphasis to sth that doesnt work
yes, some variation is nice, but having it like exactly the same for two choruses and then so different seems kinda odd. making them consistent, or changing the pattern in chorus 1 or 2 to have three different ones would be nice- 02:46:483 (1,2,3) - could actually use more spacing considering how strong it is and how high your overall spacing in this part is it feels a bit too weak atm
- 02:46:483 (1,4) - what happened to overlapping those 1/1 gaps instead of stacking them?
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Lasse wrote:
the "it's actually not m4m but still somehow is" mod dGeneral
- 02:20:768 - this section would work really well with some greenlines to gradually increase volume Niceeee idea!
- 02:15:197 - you and aia should probably find a conclusion on how to snap those xd We'll talk about it!
insane
- 00:16:697 (5,6) - so the clap on 5 gets emphasized with more spacing, but 6 which also has a clap + stronger vocals get the normal spacing again? maybe sth like http://i.imgur.com/BXMA6Z2.jpg ? fixed differently
- 00:52:911 (5,1) - lowered spacing with such an obtuse angle isnt that nice movement wise. easiest solution would probably be stacking 00:53:126 (1) - head on 00:52:054 (2) - head, but there are most likely better ways to change this yep, changed differently
- 01:06:947 (7) - pretty sure this is snapped wrongly since the only sounds are on the 1/6 surrounding it it seems. probably sth like http://i.imgur.com/QN1Gp5o.jpg ? I hate random 1/6-- :C fixed
- 01:28:911 (5) - so strong, but actually gets less spacing than the next object etc? changed
- 01:57:626 (5,6) - you use this fluid circular movement the whole time and then this kills it http://i.imgur.com/ErfptzP.jpg sth in the red area would work way nicer re-arranged!
- 02:25:911 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - intensity is building up but I just move in a circle with the same spacing :'( Welp, I don't want to overdo this. This part is pretty simple overall so I don't think increasing spacing here would match the overall design.
- 02:51:411 (1) - shape feels really out of place compared to your others which are either straight ones or curvy ones I like it as it is, the movement isn't that different from a straight slider
03:01:697 (1) - here at least it kinda works with the guitar, but then also making 03:05:126 (1) - similar would be nice (*)- 03:10:268 (7) - more acute angle to make it feel more emphasized? Imo the current movement is perfectly fine o:
hard
- was about to write sth, but lanturn pretty much said everything that would've included, lol
lower diffs look pretty okay and should be nice after you applied lanturn's mod anyways
gl
Thank you very much! :3
Deppyforce wrote:
only replied to what I didn't change!
[Advanced]
00:32:346 (4) - change to just circle on head? too long 1/2 imo is fine, since it's Adv diff and there are two lower diffs
01:52:060 (6) - change to curve slider to highlight the emphasis on 01:52:489 (1) - with slidershape? can't rmember if I changed this orz
02:38:774 - is this too long 1/2? oooooo *
02:54:632 - also too long oooo *
[Hard]
00:40:917 (4,5) - change to 1/2 slider kinda fits better with vocals thing I prefer current ryhthm
02:35:774 (4,5) - same as 00:40:917 (4,5) - *
02:53:346 (1,2) - theres still drum here so make these kicksliders too? left this blank for the sake of not making this too complicated
[Insane]
02:06:632 (1,2,3,4,1) - is this supposed to be blanketing 02:05:989 (1) - if it is, then its off pls fix blanket nah, just wanted nice curve xD
02:22:489 (1,2,3,4) - undermapped? lol it's simplified so this section works as a built up to following Kiai
Battle wrote:
i like the part where everyone ignored your rules :^) they never learn.. =o= I only replied to what I didn't change!
[Easy]
02:43:060 (1) - I disagree with this repeat slider, because rn it ignores the strong beats on the white ticks, you may just want to go for a 1/1 repeat rather than a 3/2 repeat here kept this because of the repeating rhythm that starts on the 3/2
[Hard]
02:22:489 (1,2,3,4) - I don't know, I know you're trying to emphasize the increasing intensity of the music, but I feel like it's done in a rather awkward manner, because although 02:22:489 - gets slightly quieter, the really big drop in density feels awkward, I feel like maybe a sv multiplier change and sliders would do the trick better I'll think about changing this, but I really like how it works actually.. so no changes yet, but I guess I'll do so when I come up with something better!
[Insane]
00:36:203 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - It would make a bit more sense if 00:36:203 (1,2,3) - were had smaller spacing compared to 00:36:846 (1,2,3) - since it builds up toward the chorus increased spacing for 2nd pattern instead
02:22:489 - Suggest same thing as hard *
furries *shudders* LOL, but they're so cute!! XD
Akitoshi wrote:
yes
osu needs more ATL
hi from your q not rly good modder but let me try my best
I only replied to what I declined! (and I agree, osu needs more english stuff in general ;b)
EasyNormal
- 00:55:060 (1,2,3) - so, this is followed some vocals on two first white ticks which is 00:55:060 - and 00:55:489 - for emphasize them, but I'm not really sure if you did some variation thingy with 00:41:346 (1,2) - so maybe do the same here as well imo yep, this is for variation, because it's really just too monotonous if it's the same. ><
- 01:56:774 (1,2,3) - similar to ^ *
- 03:03:632 (1) - I'm not sure about this one, you skipped many strong beats on just 1 reverse slider. maybe this pattern works imo I prefer current rhythm, cause it's the ouro and I want to keep this as simple as possible
Advanced
- 02:28:917 (2,3) - A bit sad for 1/1 notes even the drums goind to faster, maybe 02:28:917 (2) - can be 1/2 slider imo I don't remember if I changed this tbh D:
Insane
- 03:10:274 (9) - NC? xd I only used NCs on downbeat and sliders that cover downbeats, so this doesn't need one ;o;
- 00:50:560 (6,7,1,2,3) - nice flower xd Thanks XD
- 01:54:846 (1) - Hmm, this feels forced to just make a curve from 01:54:632 (5) - even when I was playing, how about this curve instead? I prefer current shape, but I'll consider changing it when more people complain about it! ><