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SO SUS + KONKA - ACORN

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squirrelpascals
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 2:20:21 PM

Artist: SO SUS + KONKA
Title: ACORN
Tags: trap experimental door hinge
BPM: 135
Filesize: 4887kb
Play Time: 03:07
Difficulties Available:
  1. EASY (1.31 stars, 196 notes)
  2. EXTRA (5.54 stars, 627 notes)
  3. HARD (2.98 stars, 394 notes)
  4. INSANE (4.04 stars, 558 notes)
  5. NORMAL (2.08 stars, 258 notes)
  6. NUTS (6.72 stars, 704 notes)
Download: SO SUS + KONKA - ACORN
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Modified version of NUTS diff: dl















old changelog
-3/15/16- Finished all diffs completely with hitsounds. Had to resnap end spinners. Also updated tags.
-As of 3/17/16- Fixed some metadata and cc erorrs, Trent83 mods
-3/18/16- ReFaller mods, shortened end spinner throughout all diffs
-3/20/16- Anxient mods + Self mod. Hitsounds more consistent throughout all diffs. Kiai time reduced. Some mild flow changes and more favorable rhythms for stronger beats.
-3/21/16- Minor self mod, some more rhythm adjustments and mapping change in NUTS
-3/24/16- Huge mod from Spork Lover, fixed pain in the but timing issue in INSANE \:D/
-3/26/16- Found a final alternative to some parts of map I was indecisive about in INSANE and NUTS. pkhg mod. Got rid of some overmapping in INSANE
-3/27/16- HML mods, banished a shitty jumping pattern also
-3/29/16- Shiny Spoon mods + another self-mod on NUTS, and I think I finally found a legible pattern for 00:23:130 (1,2,3,4,5) :o
-3/30/16- Moeka mods, and added a fancy slidertick hitsound! :o
-4-1/16- Deleted mapset. Reanik mods.
-4/2/16- Yoratama, Chiyuyu and Crimmi mods. Removed custom slidertick until further notice.
-4/6/16- HappyHorse191 mods.
-4/8/16- Cheesecake mods. Cleaned up Insane diff a bit
-4/10/16- Akitoshi mods and a big self-mod on normal and hard (regarding the "messiness" coming from sliders, flow, and inconsistent mapping techniques). Just about bn ready.
-4/12/16- DuckNess mods
-4/14/16- Based Bradsmith101 did testplay on NORMAL diff, remembered I had to remove doubles. Found stupid mistakes in kiai times also but fixed now. Also spotted hitsound inconsistencies and made very minor changes that would be more preferable to the player in NORMAL and HARD.
-4/16/16- EraunamoJazz mods. Gonna add "door hinge" to tags lmao.
~~Until here, the map had just been moved from WIP section to Pending secition. Should have been pending since start of this changelog. idk if it matters but just incase~~
-4/19/16- Natsu mods part 1. Fixed "door hinge" tag.
~4/20/16~ Went over Natsu mods part 2 for Extra / Insane / Hard. Had to get a new normal-hitnormal.wav :(
-4/21/16- emanfman mods for EXTRA, abanes16 mods
-4/22/16- Ataraxia mods
-4/25/16- Lithium mods
-4/26/16- More changes from Natsu mods; there was a point he mentioned in there that I never fixed
-4/27/16- HB24 Mods. Also hitsound changes
-4/29/16- Reverted some stuff form the old version of NUTS
-4/30/16- flawful mods, changed a slider sv due to consistency error. HW mods and some more spacing fixes.
-5/1/16- Tweaked hitsounds, was told it was okay to remove nc at 02:08:018. Tweaks to hitsounding / lower difficulties
-5/5/16- -[ Snowflake ]- mods
-5/29/16- Small changes, some lower diff adjustments (Dont let this mapset die)
-6/1/16- Started Mikasa mods, made hitclap brighter
-6/6/16- Much needed self-mod to lower difficulties, Pereira006 mods
-6/8/16- -Alice Blue- suggestion, Ireiisu mods
-6/9/16- Shiguma and jamiesalvador mods
-6/13/16- Difficulty and flow changes to normal
-6/15/16- Flow changes to Extra
-6/16/16- Cryptic mods
-6/28/16- Monstrata mods
-6/29/16- Added more structure (e.g. angle increments in streams) to patterns that needed it in NUTS
-6/30/16- Revamping/modding sesh with Spork Lover. Also some adjustments in general
-7/1/16- SnivehNDraegonz mods
-7/2/16- Ezek mods, also evened out the slider streams on NUTS diff
-7/3/16- Gave triangle pattern in NUTS a more appropriate flow. Improvements in consistency and hitsounding in EASY and NORMAL
-7/5/16- Improvments to INSANE and first half of HARD (second half soon)
-7/6/16- There was a misplaced circle in NUTS. Improved EXTRA which should make it feel nicer to pla
-7/7/16- Fixed all of HARD to a set distance snap
-9/21/16- some guy on reddit reminded me of this, tried some stupid patterns.

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zenithlight
irc
01:01 zenithlight: 00:41:345 (5,1) - the spacing here doesnt make sense
01:02 zenithlight: 00:58:678 (1,2) - blanket xd
01:03 zenithlight: 01:13:234 (4,1) - this is basically a jump because the angle changes so sharply
01:03 zenithlight: but you probably woudlnt want a jump here
01:04 zenithlight: 01:16:456 (1) - this sections basically just doesnt play well, dont map this pattern on a 1/4 beat
01:04 squirrelpascals: 00:41:345 (5,1) - jump puts emphasis on kick. I can put it closer
01:05 zenithlight: wouldnt you want 00:41:567 (2) - to be spaced out then instead of 00:41:456 (1) - ?
01:05 squirrelpascals: fixed blanket
01:06 squirrelpascals: opps, yes I would XD
01:06 zenithlight: why the sudden change in spacing from the triangle patten to the pinwheel pattern on 01:21:234 (4,1) - ?
01:08 squirrelpascals: idk, ill space it farther. didnt mean for that to be sudden
01:09 zenithlight: you haave some cool slider shapes in this map
01:09 squirrelpascals: thanks :)
01:10 zenithlight: 01:29:789 (1) - starting here object placement kind of becomes haphazard
01:10 squirrelpascals: i fixed that jump stream thingy a little bit
01:10 zenithlight: possibly youll revisit it later but its not aesthetically appealing
01:11 squirrelpascals: okay, ill keep an eye on it for alternatives, etc.
01:11 zenithlight: mhm
01:11 zenithlight: thats all i really have to say
01:11 zenithlight: good luck!
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

zenithlight wrote:

irc
01:01 zenithlight: 00:41:345 (5,1) - the spacing here doesnt make sense
01:02 zenithlight: 00:58:678 (1,2) - blanket xd
01:03 zenithlight: 01:13:234 (4,1) - this is basically a jump because the angle changes so sharply
01:03 zenithlight: but you probably woudlnt want a jump here
01:04 zenithlight: 01:16:456 (1) - this sections basically just doesnt play well, dont map this pattern on a 1/4 beat
01:04 squirrelpascals: 00:41:345 (5,1) - jump puts emphasis on kick. I can put it closer
01:05 zenithlight: wouldnt you want 00:41:567 (2) - to be spaced out then instead of 00:41:456 (1) - ?
01:05 squirrelpascals: fixed blanket
01:06 squirrelpascals: opps, yes I would XD
01:06 zenithlight: why the sudden change in spacing from the triangle patten to the pinwheel pattern on 01:21:234 (4,1) - ?
01:08 squirrelpascals: idk, ill space it farther. didnt mean for that to be sudden
01:09 zenithlight: you haave some cool slider shapes in this map
01:09 squirrelpascals: thanks :)
01:10 zenithlight: 01:29:789 (1) - starting here object placement kind of becomes haphazard
01:10 squirrelpascals: i fixed that jump stream thingy a little bit
01:10 zenithlight: possibly youll revisit it later but its not aesthetically appealing
01:11 squirrelpascals: okay, ill keep an eye on it for alternatives, etc.
01:11 zenithlight: mhm
01:11 zenithlight: thats all i really have to say
01:11 zenithlight: good luck!
I changed the stream jump back and am actually going to get more input on it :P

Other than that thanks for the input!
Spiraler
m4m

NUTS
00:01:789 (1) - this doesn't seem to follow the music much
00:07:123 (1,2) - doesn't really flow (though not sure if you're going for flow)
00:16:011 (4,5,6,7,8) - inconsistent scale of spacing reduction (reduces by .05x, then .25x, then .33x)
00:21:345 (1,2) - smaller spacing seems awkward
01:02:567 (3,4) - blanket looks off move it to the right
01:04:900 (4,5) - is this supposed to blanket? It really isn't at the moment
01:28:345 - nothing here?
01:54:678 (3) - I would say rotate this anti-clockwise a bit to flow from previous circle
02:28:456 (1,2,3,4) - seems out of place to have these 1/8 connections when the only times it appears elsewhere in the map you make the volume almost nothing

Really... interesting map. The hitsounds were amazing tho :D
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Spiral527 wrote:

m4m

NUTS
00:01:789 (1) - this doesn't seem to follow the music much Bongos in the background
00:07:123 (1,2) - doesn't really flow (though not sure if you're going for flow) Not sure if this is what you were taking about, but i adjusted the slider curve
00:16:011 (4,5,6,7,8) - inconsistent scale of spacing reduction (reduces by .05x, then .25x, then .33x) Changed to .2 consistently
00:21:345 (1,2) - smaller spacing seems awkward Fixed
01:02:567 (3,4) - blanket looks off move it to the right Done
01:04:900 (4,5) - is this supposed to blanket? It really isn't at the moment No, no intention to blanket here
01:28:345 - nothing here? Mapped to claps in the bg actually. Did this a couple other times too
01:54:678 (3) - I would say rotate this anti-clockwise a bit to flow from previous circle Good call
02:28:456 (1,2,3,4) - seems out of place to have these 1/8 connections when the only times it appears elsewhere in the map you make the volume almost nothing Opps, unintentional. Fixed

Really... interesting map. The hitsounds were amazing tho :D Thanks! ^u^
CircleChu
Heya o/
We did IRC mod for some blankets/NCs/main beats/etc.
My IRC log is crashed so I`ll just post our latest changes in chat, but there was much more than just that.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4573461

P.S: Nice EVIL map.
SagiriBM
is this going for ranked ? :o The song is a masterpiece
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

BaD MonsterZ wrote:

is this going for ranked ? :o The song is a masterpiece
That's the plan <3
Zyl
M4M

[easy :3]

[Song setup]

SS
-use more tags (this is dumb but its useful)
-Unmark widescreen support in all diffs
-White combo color must be erased, hurt the eyes and confuse the players

[Timing]

TG
-NP

[Design]

DG
-NP

[Compose]

CP
00:02:685 (3) - ends in large white tick, why not put an slider and in the long tick a circle?
00:04:463 (1) - Same
00:08:018 (1) - Same
00:12:463 (1) - use a combination here of 6 or 5 sliders, use the long tick
00:38:685 (2) - A combination of 2 circles? and you can erase the slider (is the thing of the tick xDD)
01:44:018 (2) - use a combination of Slider + circle?
01:51:130 (2) - Same
01:52:463 (3,4,5) - start an slider in the object #4 that is "really difficult" on an easy so only use a max of 2 circles
01:54:685 (2) - ends in large white tick, why not put an slider and in the long tick a circle?
01:58:241 (3) - same
01:59:574 (4,5,6) - "really difficult" so careful with that
02:13:352 (1,2,3,4) - Same and its asymetric use 2 sliders is better
02:53:796 (3,4,5) - "very difficult for an easy"
03:04:018 (1) - Why an spinner? theres no sound there :?

[Normal :3]

[Compose]

CP
00:20:463 (5) - theres no sound in the second of the back arrow, remove it
00:25:352 (4,1,3) - Overlap (i really hate overlap)
00:28:167 (6,7) - Isnt snapped everything must be snapped in normals or easys
00:30:241 (1) - No sound there
00:56:907 (1) - Asymetric, do it symetric
01:06:685 (4,1) - Overlap
01:26:463 (2) - doesnt fits with the music
01:29:796 (2) - Doesnt fit with the music for me, you can erase the arrow
01:33:352 (2) - Same
01:42:241 (3) - Same
02:31:130 (3) - same
03:04:018 (1) - Same thing of the spinner
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Trent83 wrote:

M4M

-use more tags (this is dumb but its useful) True, I can get around to thinking of some. I feel like all the nesessary tags were in teh meta XD
-Unmark widescreen support in all diffs Done
-White combo color must be erased, hurt the eyes and confuse the players It's a light grey

CP
00:02:685 (3) - ends in large white tick, why not put an slider and in the long tick a circle? I liked this suggestion because it made the rhythm less boring
00:04:463 (1) - Same This one's fine
00:08:018 (1) - Same Need to give preparation time for the spinner
00:12:463 (1) - use a combination here of 6 or 5 sliders, use the long tick I don't know exactly what you mean, but I think it's okay unless you can clarify maybe
00:38:685 (2) - A combination of 2 circles? and you can erase the slider (is the thing of the tick xDD) This is okay
01:44:018 (2) - use a combination of Slider + circle? Done
01:51:130 (2) - Same I'm going to keep this one. It suits the bass in the music and there's already 3 circles after the slider
01:52:463 (3,4,5) - start an slider in the object #4 that is "really difficult" on an easy so only use a max of 2 circles I think this is fiine too, its 1/1 at 135 bpm which is pretty low
01:54:685 (2) - ends in large white tick, why not put an slider and in the long tick a circle? Yeah, I agree this rhythm is better
01:58:241 (3) - same I used this slider to put emphasis on the "held out" sound here
01:59:574 (4,5,6) - "really difficult" so careful with that Like I mentioned above, I think the 3 circles are okay, even if they're zig-zag. But I'll keep an eye out in future mods
02:13:352 (1,2,3,4) - Same and its asymetric use 2 sliders is better I kept one and two but changed 3 and 4 into one slider
02:53:796 (3,4,5) - "very difficult for an easy" ^
03:04:018 (1) - Why an spinner? theres no sound there :? Holds out that dramatic effect of the last note for as long as possible

CP
00:20:463 (5) - theres no sound in the second of the back arrow, remove it The pitch of the door-hingey sound changes here
00:25:352 (4,1,3) - Overlap (i really hate overlap) They touch but they dont get in the way of eachother
00:28:167 (6,7) - Isnt snapped everything must be snapped in normals or easys There's a 1/3 rhythm here
00:30:241 (1) - No sound there No new sound, but theres a gate effect on the door-hinge sound so it emphasizes that
00:56:907 (1) - Asymetric, do it symetric Its horizontally symmetric
01:06:685 (4,1) - Overlap I made this look nice
01:26:463 (2) - doesnt fits with the music Fits with the door-hinge sound
01:29:796 (2) - Doesnt fit with the music for me, you can erase the arrow Same thing from above pattern.
01:33:352 (2) - Same All are okay, all for same reason as above
01:42:241 (3) - Same
02:31:130 (3) - same
03:04:018 (1) - Same thing of the spinner Listed above
Thank you for the mods!! I might have not accepted a lot of them but they helped. :)
ReFaller
M4M
So you want to mod only hard and higher.
[HARD]
00:01:796 (1) - during gameplay i couldn't notice, but in editor i hear that better way should be keep this slider in 1/2 beat instead of 3/4
00:08:685 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - for which these follows? This slider stream and two circles before don't have that much sounds in music to be a slider stream. Listen the song again.
00:15:130 (3) - a little too long, shorten it to get 1/1 slider
00:15:907 (4) - then move it 1/4 beat earlier. Fix spacing should be necessary.
01:12:018 (4,5) - try to close the distance between them, but try also
01:55:352 (4,5) - yes, fix the blanket, but move the object no.4
02:37:130 (3,4) - a little weird placement, stack the 4 on 3
02:50:463 (3,1,2,3) - because these stack have irregular rythm, don't stack them and force you to little remap
02:53:685 (4,5,1,2,3) - again
02:57:241 (4,5,1,2,3) - yes...
03:04:018 (1) - i recommend remove this spinner, i wonder the rest of diff have the same, then when you remove this, remove also unecessary green lines
[INSANE]
00:01:795 (1,2) - you didn't listen this when you mapped lol, instead of this must be three 1/2 circles
00:08:684 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same issue like in Hard
00:12:462 (1,2,3) - for insane this still might be too hard 1/6 triplet, i recommend change into 1/6 slider
01:28:017 (1,2,3,4) - this part can have more circles, listen when you can place them
01:39:573 (2) - set NC
02:06:684 (2) - set NC here, because this part will be weird to read
02:09:684 (2) - NC
[EXTRA]
00:01:796 (1) - this is monotonous
00:08:685 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - yeeesss....
00:39:130 (1,2,3,4) - but this is WTF
01:27:796 (3) - forgot NC?
01:55:574 (1) - map this to main rythm
02:23:130 (2) - this is 1/2 beat too long
02:49:796 (5) - you have more sounds to map here
03:00:463 (4) - this slider skips the very well hearable rythm on blue tick
[NUTS]
This diff contais similar issues like EXTRA so i can skip this.
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

ReFaller wrote:

M4M
So you want to mod only hard and higher. Was preferred; I was supposedly getting mods for easy+normal today and don't want mods to overlap
[HARD]
00:01:796 (1) - during gameplay i couldn't notice, but in editor i hear that better way should be keep this slider in 1/2 beat instead of 3/4 Did this
00:08:685 (6,7,1,2,3,4) - for which these follows? This slider stream and two circles before don't have that much sounds in music to be a slider stream. Listen the song again. The slider stream goes well with the riser, the triple just introduces it,
00:15:130 (3) - a little too long, shorten it to get 1/1 slider This is okay
00:15:907 (4) - then move it 1/4 beat earlier. Fix spacing should be necessary. I put this here to map to the gate effect of the hinge sound
01:12:018 (4,5) - try to close the distance between them, but try also Fixed
01:55:352 (4,5) - yes, fix the blanket, but move the object no.4 Fixed
02:37:130 (3,4) - a little weird placement, stack the 4 on 3 It already is stacked
02:50:463 (3,1,2,3) - because these stack have irregular rythm, don't stack them and force you to little remap I thought about this, but I think that would cause some reading difficulties regarding spacing vs. stacking.
02:53:685 (4,5,1,2,3) - again
02:57:241 (4,5,1,2,3) - yes...
03:04:018 (1) - i recommend remove this spinner, i wonder the rest of diff have the same, then when you remove this, remove also unecessary green lines Green lines are necessary because it controls the volume of the spinner while spinning. I have received another comment about removing the spinner but I really don't see what's wrong with it. So I'll ask about this and give it one more chance before removing.
[INSANE]
00:01:795 (1,2) - you didn't listen this when you mapped lol, instead of this must be three 1/2 circles Using circles in this case, I feel like it would make the intro kind of rushed
00:08:684 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same issue like in Hard Same reason listed above
00:12:462 (1,2,3) - for insane this still might be too hard 1/6 triplet, i recommend change into 1/6 slider It fits the music okay
01:28:017 (1,2,3,4) - this part can have more circles, listen when you can place them Has been mentioned before but I'm confident that this can stand. I'll ask about this
01:39:573 (2) - set NC Done
02:06:684 (2) - set NC here, because this part will be weird to read Done
02:09:684 (2) - NC Its fine
[EXTRA]
00:01:796 (1) - this is monotonous The slider shape? If that's what your talking aboutt then it fits with the others, it's fine
00:08:685 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - yeeesss.... Listed above
00:39:130 (1,2,3,4) - but this is WTF Ok. Scaled from 1.0 to 0.9
01:27:796 (3) - forgot NC? I removed it but yeah I'll change it back. I didn't want an orange slider for some reason XD
01:55:574 (1) - map this to main rythm It's okay. I don't know what else to map it to...
02:23:130 (2) - this is 1/2 beat too long No, mapped to the door-hinge sound
02:49:796 (5) - you have more sounds to map here Remapped. I was trying to make it so that the corner of the slider would put emphasis on the kick but the hold rhythm doesn't fit
03:00:463 (4) - this slider skips the very well hearable rythm on blue tick I was thinking about changing this, but I decided taht mapping consistently was more important
[NUTS]
This diff contais similar issues like EXTRA so i can skip this.
Thank you for the mods! :)
Anxient
m4m for https://osu.ppy.sh/b/905047
insane
00:02:129 (2) - make this a triple lol. just do it. dont question it.
00:04:018 - missing note
00:04:240 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you should make this more noticeable. the locations of the 1/4s and the 1/2s. put NCs or something http://puu.sh/nN2VP/f46dff6cc2.jpg. also dont do overlaps in this part it looks ugly imo
00:05:351 (1) - shorten to 1/2 slider and add note so that this note is represented by SOMETHING 00:05:574 - http://puu.sh/nN2V6/6163f6451b.jpg
00:06:906 (6,1) - give this more spacing? .-. to fix spacing issues and to give emphasis to 1. http://puu.sh/nN2Y6/7a26df1196.jpg
00:08:017 (2,3,4,5) - same
00:08:463 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - overmap. put only notes that exist.
00:18:684 (1) - ctrl g. flows better from the previous note to this one imo
00:35:795 (1,2,3,4) - try doing this. or something that will emphasize 4 better. theres a strong beat over there. use it.http://puu.sh/nN35v/83d51a128c.jpg
01:31:573 (1,2) - lolwat. please do this rhythm http://puu.sh/nN39U/5c63f417d8.jpg. theres a beat youre ignoring in 01:32:018 -

extra
00:01:796 (1) - use this rhythm. you ignored certain crucial beats http://puu.sh/nN3lv/9d12b823de.jpg
00:05:352 (3) - 00:05:574 - ignored

ill stop here for now. please take care of your note placement lol. there are some notes you decide to ignore with sliders and dumb overlaps. take care of emphasis notes. remember, stronger sound = larger DS.
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Anxient wrote:

m4m for https://osu.ppy.sh/b/905047
insane
00:02:129 (2) - make this a triple lol. just do it. dont question it. K
00:04:018 - missing note Its a white tick but there's nothing there
00:04:240 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you should make this more noticeable. the locations of the 1/4s and the 1/2s. put NCs or something http://puu.sh/nN2VP/f46dff6cc2.jpg. also dont do overlaps in this part it looks ugly imo I think the overlaps are okay. I did the nc thing tho
00:05:351 (1) - shorten to 1/2 slider and add note so that this note is represented by SOMETHING 00:05:574 - http://puu.sh/nN2V6/6163f6451b.jpg This beat isn't as strong; I feel like it's not needed
00:06:906 (6,1) - give this more spacing? .-. to fix spacing issues and to give emphasis to 1. http://puu.sh/nN2Y6/7a26df1196.jpg I adjusted 00:06:240 (3,4,5) to give more spacing and keep the placement of notes mentioned
00:08:017 (2,3,4,5) - same Here it's not as necessary
00:08:463 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - overmap. put only notes that exist. I've gotten this same mod before, I'm going to ask about it in modhelp or something and probably change it into a slider stream
00:18:684 (1) - ctrl g. flows better from the previous note to this one imo No, this is fine
00:35:795 (1,2,3,4) - try doing this. or something that will emphasize 4 better. theres a strong beat over there. use it. A stream is fine here. 4 is at a sharp corner as well so I think it's finehttp://puu.sh/nN35v/83d51a128c.jpg
01:31:573 (1,2) - lolwat. please do this rhythm http://puu.sh/nN39U/5c63f417d8.jpg. theres a beat youre ignoring in 01:32:018 - I made it so that beat went unignored. Used same rhythm you suggested except I made last slider end on red tick

extra
00:01:796 (1) - use this rhythm. you ignored certain crucial beats http://puu.sh/nN3lv/9d12b823de.jpg Using a back and forth slider instead. Working on applying this rhythm for all diffs
00:05:352 (3) - 00:05:574 - ignored Same mentioned above

ill stop here for now. please take care of your note placement lol. there are some notes you decide to ignore with sliders and dumb overlaps. take care of emphasis notes. remember, stronger sound = larger DS.
I'm going to go through all my diffs and self mod to apply hit objects to stronger beats. Thank you for the mod! :)
Spork Lover
Sup man, m4m hype! ;)

BEFORE YOU READ THE MOD:
Reading the colour coding explains the importance of said suggestion or necessity.

COLOURS:
Color coding
Importance:
Red = Unrankable if unchanged
Black = Normal Suggestion
Blue = Strong Suggestion
Pink = Comment

General


Difficulty spread:
I'm writing the spread in order: It should gradually go up (CS is acceptable as it is.)
AR: 2, 5, 7,6, 9, 9, 9,7 (Since you play around with finetuning on the hard diff, you could do that for the other diffs too. Like.. 9.3 on Extra, 8.4 or 8.6 on Insane, and maybe increase AR to 2.4 and 5.3 on easy and normal. (Keep in mind that the jump from 2-7.6 is very hígh, and the insane and extra has the same AR (Which is gonna get commented on even more later probably.)
OD: 3, 4, 5,7, 8, 8, 9,8 (Here, I'd change the extra OD to 8.6 and the insane to 7,4, normal to 3,8 and easy to 2,7 to: 1) have that funny finetune like on the hard diff and 2) make the spread more equal. :)

^ I'm mentioning all of this because the map-set is VERY gimmicky (and cool because of it), and the weird stats would compliment that a lot. Play around and see what you find best :3

Timing:
There's a (or more) timing points that conflict with the insane diff, look at the AIMod on any diff.

Song Setup:
The green and orange color is (compared to the gray tones), too bright. Consider toning them down a bit to compliment the background further ^^

General mapping:
03:04:018 (1) - I saw that people were commenting on that the spinner should be removed, and I don't see a reason why it should be removed. You'll know that the song is over when you're spinning, so it makes no sense to remove it. (tl:dr: Don't remove it imo, will make situation worse)

Apart from that, I think we're good. :)

Easy

00:00:907 (2) - Since you made this curvy, 00:04:463 (1) should also have a small curve due to it being roughly the same sound.
01:56:018 (4,5,1) - The slider makes this pattern a little weird imo. Consider a small curve or something similar. (Main reason is because the slider end doesn't form a square pattern with 01:57:352 (1,2,3) - )

Normal

00:11:574 - Imo the ending of this spinner should have a clap sound.
00:14:241 (1,1) - I can't find the reason why both notes are NC'ed :o, I'd understand if you switched 00:14:907 (1,2) - those two NC's around, due to two emphasized beats. (A bit like you did here 00:21:352 (1,2,1) - )
00:28:018 (3,4,5,1) - Nice pattern, but I think that you should stick to a 1/3 slider for a normal diff. :)
01:25:352 (1,2,3) - To make it a little easier for a normal diff player to play, space the triple. :)
02:21:944 (1,2) - Here's the 1/3 thing again, it's not as problematic in this section though, up for you to decide :)

Hard

Lol ALT DS was set to 1/16, you funneh
00:28:019 (2,3,4) - 1/3 is totally fine on hards, but it's hard to read in this case. Consider curving it in a different way to make it more readable (Or NC some of it).
01:08:241 (2,3) - I donno if making a blanket of some sort would ruin this section, but at least change the angle on the slider a bit or something ;o.
01:51:796 (4,1) - Why not a stack like on the previous 3? :o
02:16:018 (3) - NC? :) You NC'ed like that in your normal.
02:50:463 (3,1,2) - Wow that is a tricky pattern to read for a hard diff. I really don't think that a smaller DS for the quicker notes will help enough, but I could be wrong. This occurs a lot of times here, so I know it's your mapping style, but be careful with those :)


Insane

In general, I think this diff is a lot messier than the hard diff, due to lack aesthetics, like there was on the hard diff. In general some patterns should be more tuned. A few suggestions are mentioned below, but there are probably a few more. :)
00:35:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Instead of a weird curvy stream, could this work? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4772816 (This is due to the (imo) low amount of aesthetics). I think it would still keep the gimmicky mapping style that you're trying to accomplish by doing this, while adding a certain prettiness to the mapset. :3
01:10:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern is alright, but the aesthetic values are still a lot messier than the previous diffs (There needs to be certain similarities.)
02:06:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern is a lot harder to play than you might think. An aesthetic pattern that would make you able to play it better AND be prettier could be something like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4773116 (The reason I think this is prettier is because the beat here is 1/3's, and the triangle emphasizes that it's 1/3 :3) (Also, the triangle doesn't have to be perfect like the one I made. Make it gimmicky if that suits your style more.)
02:34:684 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - That pattern is amazing, nuff' said x)

Keep in mind that there might be more sections that could use aesthetic polish, but the map is REALLY fun! (This is the difficulty I think that needs the most work though! :) )

Extra

00:16:018 (1) - The back n' forth pattern makes the NC awkward. Either change the pattern around a bit, or change the NC.
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I LOVE that you brought this pattern to the extra as well <3 Much love, yesh.
01:32:018 (3) - Place this slider close to here instead: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4773163 (Will compliment rhythm I think.)
02:09:796 (3) - If and ONLY if you denied the first suggestion on this diff, NC this note.
02:24:463 (2) - I think you can afford to space this note more.

This is probably the best diff of the ones so far :3 Really enjoyed this diff.

Nuts

LOL love the diff name xD
00:01:241 (5) - Overlap this with 4 instead to create a flowy stack instead. :)
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Instead of making them zig-zaggy, make them like you did on the expert, just a bit more spaced! (00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) from expert).
01:01:352 (1) - Even though this is a mirrored pattern, you shouldn't NC this. You didn't for many of the other patterns in this section.
01:39:574 - to 01:53:796 is perfect imo. I can't find any problems here, so keep the changes to a minimum here, 'cause it's super consistent and fun :p
01:52:907 (4,5,6) - To spice up this triangle pattern, you could NC all three :3.
02:09:685 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This stream could accelerate instead of slowing down.
02:13:574 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - All of these sliders should have a lower SV if you wanna keep 'em, 'cause they're way too hard to read atm ('Since we didn't encounter them yet. Do some sort of build-up first.)

Final Words:
Generally, the mapset is REALLY fun. It's a completely new take on mapping. The only inconsistent difficulty is the insane difficulty, because it has patterns, that don't exist in the harder nor' the easier diffs. But I definitely think you can make something out of it, 'cause it's still a fun diff! I really hope you'll get this ranked at some point ;) GOOD LUCK!

I hope my mod was useful in any way :) Please leave me feedback on my mod to tell me, what I did wrong and what I should change for future mods! Drop a kudosu if it was useful <3.

Spork~
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Spork Lover wrote:

General


Difficulty spread:
I'm writing the spread in order: It should gradually go up (CS is acceptable as it is.)
AR: 2, 5, 7,6, 9, 9, 9,7 (Since you play around with finetuning on the hard diff, you could do that for the other diffs too. Like.. 9.3 on Extra, 8.4 or 8.6 on Insane, and maybe increase AR to 2.4 and 5.3 on easy and normal. (Keep in mind that the jump from 2-7.6 is very hígh, and the insane and extra has the same AR (Which is gonna get commented on even more later probably.) I'm not going to do the fine-tuning thing. However, I eased the spread by changing Easy ar form 2 -> 3
OD: 3, 4, 5,7, 8, 8, 9,8 (Here, I'd change the extra OD to 8.6 and the insane to 7,4, normal to 3,8 and easy to 2,7 to: 1) have that funny finetune like on the hard diff and 2) make the spread more equal. :) I evened spread: 3,4.5,6,8,9,9.8

^ I'm mentioning all of this because the map-set is VERY gimmicky (and cool because of it), and the weird stats would compliment that a lot. Play around and see what you find best :3

Timing:
There's a (or more) timing points that conflict with the insane diff, look at the AIMod on any diff.

Song Setup:
The green and orange color is (compared to the gray tones), too bright. Consider toning them down a bit to compliment the background further ^^ This is okay. Fits bg

General mapping:
03:04:018 (1) - I saw that people were commenting on that the spinner should be removed, and I don't see a reason why it should be removed. You'll know that the song is over when you're spinning, so it makes no sense to remove it. (tl:dr: Don't remove it imo, will make situation worse) I just ended up shortening it because I was convinced that it was kind of pointless to spin to no sound. No way I'm removing it lmao.

Apart from that, I think we're good. :) Shweet

Easy

00:00:907 (2) - Since you made this curvy, 00:04:463 (1) should also have a small curve due to it being roughly the same sound. Sure, why not. Curved a teeny bit.
01:56:018 (4,5,1) - The slider makes this pattern a little weird imo. Consider a small curve or something similar. (Main reason is because the slider end doesn't form a square pattern with 01:57:352 (1,2,3) - Did this also )

Normal

I actually used these mods for easy diff by accident and that helped me find changes so thamks lmao
00:11:574 - Imo the ending of this spinner should have a clap sound. Did in normal and easy
00:14:241 (1,1) - I can't find the reason why both notes are NC'ed :o, I'd understand if you switched 00:14:907 (1,2) - those two NC's around, due to two emphasized beats. (A bit like you did here 00:21:352 (1,2,1) - ) That sound stands out a lot from the next part of the song it leads to. Its fine
00:28:018 (3,4,5,1) - Nice pattern, but I think that you should stick to a 1/3 slider for a normal diff. :) You'r right, changed.
01:25:352 (1,2,3) - To make it a little easier for a normal diff player to play, space the triple. :) I agree it would be easier to read, but I feel it might play strangely. I'll change it for now but if this gets brought up again I'm changing back
02:21:944 (1,2) - Here's the 1/3 thing again, it's not as problematic in this section though, up for you to decide :) This is okay. For now at least.

Hard

Lol ALT DS was set to 1/16, you funneh totally wasnt using 1/16... maybe...
00:28:019 (2,3,4) - 1/3 is totally fine on hards, but it's hard to read in this case. Consider curving it in a different way to make it more readable (Or NC some of it). This should be fine
01:08:241 (2,3) - I donno if making a blanket of some sort would ruin this section, but at least change the angle on the slider a bit or something ;o. I agree that was pretty ugly. Made saem curve as 3
01:51:796 (4,1) - Why not a stack like on the previous 3? :o True, fixed
02:16:018 (3) - NC? :) You NC'ed like that in your normal. Done
02:50:463 (3,1,2) - Wow that is a tricky pattern to read for a hard diff. I really don't think that a smaller DS for the quicker notes will help enough, but I could be wrong. This occurs a lot of times here, so I know it's your mapping style, but be careful with those :) I'm keeping. It's easy to play and its only tapping to a pretty simple 3/4 rhythm. Stacking is okay, and rhythm is repetitive.


Insane

In general, I think this diff is a lot messier than the hard diff, due to lack aesthetics, like there was on the hard diff. In general some patterns should be more tuned. A few suggestions are mentioned below, but there are probably a few more. :) I know this, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it but I'm working on it, I thinkI'll be asking for an irc mod exclusively for this diff.
00:35:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Instead of a weird curvy stream, could this work? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4772816 (This is due to the (imo) low amount of aesthetics). I think it would still keep the gimmicky mapping style that you're trying to accomplish by doing this, while adding a certain prettiness to the mapset. :3 This is fine
01:10:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern is alright, but the aesthetic values are still a lot messier than the previous diffs (There needs to be certain similarities.) I changed 4-6 to a stream, that pattern was too hard to play as well sadly :(
02:06:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern is a lot harder to play than you might think. An aesthetic pattern that would make you able to play it better AND be prettier could be something like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4773116 (The reason I think this is prettier is because the beat here is 1/3's, and the triangle emphasizes that it's 1/3 :3) (Also, the triangle doesn't have to be perfect like the one I made. Make it gimmicky if that suits your style more.) I think this is fine. It's just as jumpy as my first pattern in this section and is basically an alternative to a back-and-forth, even though it may read differently. My testplays played this alright, as well.
02:34:684 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - That pattern is amazing, nuff' said x) Thank you! cx

Keep in mind that there might be more sections that could use aesthetic polish, but the map is REALLY fun! (This is the difficulty I think that needs the most work though! :) )

Extra

00:16:018 (1) - The back n' forth pattern makes the NC awkward. Either change the pattern around a bit, or change the NC. I would do this, but I don't think it's okay to nc on a blue tick unless music calls for it :( If someone says for sure it's allowed then I'd totally do it
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I LOVE that you brought this pattern to the extra as well <3 Much love, yesh. You like the stream ds changes dont you x3
01:32:018 (3) - Place this slider close to here instead: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4773163 (Will compliment rhythm I think.) This slider was a mess, I changed differently but even in an even more favorable way
02:09:796 (3) - If and ONLY if you denied the first suggestion on this diff, NC this note. Yeah same
02:24:463 (2) - I think you can afford to space this note more. I think it's okay

This is probably the best diff of the ones so far :3 Really enjoyed this diff. Thnx <3

Nuts

LOL love the diff name xD
00:01:241 (5) - Overlap this with 4 instead to create a flowy stack instead. :) This is okay
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Instead of making them zig-zaggy, make them like you did on the expert, just a bit more spaced! (00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) from expert). I like how the ds decreased kind of "calms down" before the slow slider (808 kick).
01:01:352 (1) - Even though this is a mirrored pattern, you shouldn't NC this. You didn't for many of the other patterns in this section. You're right, it broke a lot of consistency there.
01:39:574 - to 01:53:796 is perfect imo. I can't find any problems here, so keep the changes to a minimum here, 'cause it's super consistent and fun :p Okay it's actually really helpful that you make this comment, because in a testplay, the player broke a lot more on the first half of that part than the other half you mentioned. I might compare the 2 and make some changes to the first part.
01:52:907 (4,5,6) - To spice up this triangle pattern, you could NC all three :3. I didn't nc all three, but it was already inconsistent of me to nc 4, so I did
02:09:685 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This stream could accelerate instead of slowing down. No (its already accelerated enough in the beginning wtf). The door-hinge sound pitches down here, plus this is the same thing I did as the first part of the map
02:13:574 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - All of these sliders should have a lower SV if you wanna keep 'em, 'cause they're way too hard to read atm ('Since we didn't encounter them yet. Do some sort of build-up first.) If I did a build up, that would be kind of inconsistent regarding the music (I mention consistency a lot because I feel it's important, there's already enough crazy patterns in this diff). These are perfectly readable as kicksliders already because the sv stays at 2.0x. No change.

Final Words:
Generally, the mapset is REALLY fun. It's a completely new take on mapping. The only inconsistent difficulty is the insane difficulty, because it has patterns, that don't exist in the harder nor' the easier diffs. But I definitely think you can make something out of it, 'cause it's still a fun diff! I really hope you'll get this ranked at some point ;) GOOD LUCK! Thank you! <3

I hope my mod was useful in any way :) Please leave me feedback on my mod to tell me, what I did wrong and what I should change for future mods! Drop a kudosu if it was useful <3. Omg, your mod was beautiful. You covered every aspect of the set and so many of the mods were helpful. I really appreciate you moddig like this. Thanks :)

Spork~
pkhg
[Easy]

00:09:796 (1) - im sure u can map this. kinda lazy atm lolz
00:23:130 (1) - looks ugly curved to that degree so http://puu.sh/nUkG2/df35c0776c.jpg
notsomuchstuffhereiguesslol

[Normal]

01:39:352 (3,1) - 1/3 stack seems confusing u know normal players suck xd
02:15:130 (1,2,3,4) - too hardcore i guess
02:21:352 (2,1,2,3) - ^
01:12:907 (1,2,3,4) - ^

[Hard]

too much 1/4 circles imo

idk what to say here lolz

just aesthetic stuff on higher diffs

sry for shitmod i feel kinda bad so you can ask me again if u need a mod
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

pkhg wrote:

idk what to say here lolz

just aesthetic stuff on higher diffs
I would really appreciate if you could mod for the "aesthetics" that yout mentioned in higher diffs, I've gotten that comment a lot. Meanwhile I'll use this cmoment as a placeholder for when I have time to reply to your mod xd

Edit:

pkhg wrote:

[Easy]

00:09:796 (1) - im sure u can map this. kinda lazy atm lolz I think the spinner fits here
00:23:130 (1) - looks ugly curved to that degree so http://puu.sh/nUkG2/df35c0776c.jpg Did this
notsomuchstuffhereiguesslol

[Normal]

01:39:352 (3,1) - 1/3 stack seems confusing u know normal players suck xd Can confirm was normal player. fixed
02:15:130 (1,2,3,4) - too hardcore i guess Agreed. Changed to 2 sliders
02:21:352 (2,1,2,3) - ^ Same
01:12:907 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Also 2 sliders

[Hard]

too much 1/4 circles imo Going to ask about this one


sry for shitmod i feel kinda bad so you can ask me again if u need a mod See above
HML
M4M <3

!DISCLAIMER!
If this AT ALL infringes on your style, ignore it :)


EXTRA

00:06:241 (1,2) - Maybe space a bit more?
00:12:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - The transition from one pattern to the next feels awkward (00:13:056 (6) to 00:13:204 (1))
00:16:241 (3,5) - Maybe a deep bass, drum hitsound?
00:16:907 (1) - Placement of this slider feels weird. Maybe rotate it, and overlay on 00:16:463 (5)
00:17:574 (2) - Move if you do ^
00:18:241 (5) - Make completely straight maybe? Flows better in my opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:18:685 (1,1) - Space further apart
00:19:796 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern feels awkward, maybe put two triangles like this?
00:23:352 (3,4) - Stack
00:30:685 (7,1) - Space a bit more
00:31:130 (1) - I do not like this slider ;-;
00:37:352 (3,4,5,6,7) - Curve a bit better, or make it more edged. I don't know what you were going for, lol
00:39:130 (1,2,3,4) - Feels like it comes out of nowhere, maybe space closer?
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Love this part <3
01:02:241 (4,5) - Space further apart maybe?
01:11:130 (1,3) - Match up a bit better
01:20:907 (1,2,3) - Space closer
01:22:018 (3) - Feels out of place
01:45:796 (1,3) - Line up a bit better
01:23:574 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Really fun to play
02:17:796 (1) - Place on top of 02:17:352 (5)
02:53:685 (4,5,1,2,3) - Not the most straight

NUTS

Meta
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I'd personally lower the AR to 9.5
Maybe HP drain to 6ish

In-Game
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00:08:130 (5) - I don't like this slider, it looks ugly
00:08:463 (1) - Match up better with 00:08:130 (5)
00:15:130 (2) - I don't like this slider :/
00:15:907 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don'f like this pattern. It feels really unnatural.
00:16:907 (2) - Don't like this one either
00:20:018 (1,2,3,4) - pattern should start here - 00:19:796 (3)
00:20:685 (2) - I hate all of the sliders like this. 00:31:130 (2) and 02:08:907 (1)
00:23:130 (1,2,3,4,5) - Weird jump
00:34:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:38:463 - Missing beat
01:22:018 (2) - Feels out of place
01:26:685 (1) - Ctrl+J
01:33:352 (1) - I don't like this slider. Not the shape, but it comes out of nowhere.
02:07:278 (5,6) - Ctrl+G
Love the map :)
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

HML wrote:

M4M <3

!DISCLAIMER!
If this AT ALL infringes on your style, ignore it :) Infringes my style = no reply, thanks :)


EXTRA

00:06:241 (1,2) - Maybe space a bit more? No, spaced fine right now
00:12:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - The transition from one pattern to the next feels awkward (00:13:056 (6) to 00:13:204 (1)) Feels okay to me
00:16:241 (3,5) - Maybe a deep bass, drum hitsound? Mmm good thought. I might think about doing this throughout the mapset, but it would take a helluva lot of work
00:16:907 (1) - Placement of this slider feels weird. Maybe rotate it, and overlay on 00:16:463 (5) Overlayed on 00:16:130 (2), but no change other than that
00:17:574 (2) - Move if you do ^
00:18:241 (5) - Make completely straight maybe? Flows better in my opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I made this corner for it to flow well in the first place, actually :P
00:18:685 (1,1) - Space further apart This is close because of slow part +sv here
00:19:796 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Pattern feels awkward, maybe put two triangles like this?
00:23:352 (3,4) - Stack Opps lol done
00:30:685 (7,1) - Space a bit more No need for this
00:31:130 (1) - I do not like this slider ;-; Didn't change its direction or anything, but I gave it a lil more character
00:37:352 (3,4,5,6,7) - Curve a bit better, or make it more edged. I don't know what you were going for, lol
00:39:130 (1,2,3,4) - Feels like it comes out of nowhere, maybe space closer? I see where your coming from when you say "come's out of nowhere," might consider alternatives. And I already had spaced closer
00:40:907 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Love this part <3 <3
01:02:241 (4,5) - Space further apart maybe? Done
01:11:130 (1,3) - Match up a bit better
01:20:907 (1,2,3) - Space closer Done
01:22:018 (3) - Feels out of place As far as rhythm goes? This fits the riser's pitch change, done through all diffs
01:45:796 (1,3) - Line up a bit better
01:23:574 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Really fun to play Thanks!
02:17:796 (1) - Place on top of 02:17:352 (5)
02:53:685 (4,5,1,2,3) - Not the most straight That's as straight as I can make it, with tiny grid

NUTS

Meta
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I'd personally lower the AR to 9.5 Had it at 9.5, raised due to readability
Maybe HP drain to 6ish This is fine

In-Game
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00:08:130 (5) - I don't like this slider, it looks ugly Made it look nice
00:08:463 (1) - Match up better with 00:08:130 (5) Don't know what you mean :/
00:15:130 (2) - I don't like this slider :/
00:15:907 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don'f like this pattern. It feels really unnatural. It uses a ds decrease and is pretty linear of a pattern, it sould be okay
00:16:907 (2) - Don't like this one either
00:20:018 (1,2,3,4) - pattern should start here - 00:19:796 (3) Changing would heavily interfere with the pattern. But if I find an alternative I'll use it
00:20:685 (2) - I hate all of the sliders like this. 00:31:130 (2) and 02:08:907 (1) These visually appeal to the music and are playable
00:23:130 (1,2,3,4,5) - Weird jump Had a lot of problems with this. Changed completely
00:34:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:38:463 - Missing beat I redid this section to suit the rhythm more appropriately
01:22:018 (2) - Feels out of place Fits riser change in pitch
01:26:685 (1) - Ctrl+J No, but helpful b/c I did make it flow better
01:33:352 (1) - I don't like this slider. Not the shape, but it comes out of nowhere. Time for another spaced stream!
02:07:278 (5,6) - Ctrl+G No need, jumps fit well
Love the map :)
Thank you, and thank you for the mod! :)
Shiny Spoon
[Nuts]
OD is way too high, lower it to 9 please. This is not some Mazzerin Death Metal song, and is nowhere near 8 stars.

00:00:019 (1,2) - Space this a bit more, considering the jumps/doubles you have after it this is WAY too close together.

00:05:352 (1) - Considering the maps style already, you can probably get away with ending this on the red tick, adding a note on the blue to flow into the second slider.

00:05:352 (1) - No NC

00:08:907 (3) - NC

00:09:796 (1) - No NC

00:10:685 (1) - an NC here is unneeded because of the spinner

00:15:130 (2) - Okay...this slider is asking for breaks x.x

00:16:907 (2) - This one just stretches out too much to the right x.x

00:19:352 (2) - NC here. Always add an NC 00:19:574 (1) - drop NC here

00:24:685 (1) - No NC here, on the downbeat

01:16:463 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - um.....no please?

01:20:018 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - this reads terribly.

01:24:907 (2) - NC here, and not after the other.

02:08:907 (1) - im not a big fan of these zig zag slider things, they seem out of place.


Im sorry if any of this is against your map style, and its hard for me to give feedback as I cant really do this style of mapping myself so I cant say what is right and wrong on most of it. Sorry if this was short :P

Good luck on your map.
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Shiny Spoon wrote:

[Nuts]
OD is way too high, lower it to 9 please. This is not some Mazzerin Death Metal song, and is nowhere near 8 stars. For a couple other reasons I lowered a little to 9.4

00:00:019 (1,2) - Space this a bit more, considering the jumps/doubles you have after it this is WAY too close together. No this blankets okay

00:05:352 (1) - Considering the maps style already, you can probably get away with ending this on the red tick, adding a note on the blue to flow into the second slider. I already like how this exaggerates the big kick

00:05:352 (1) - No NC This is okay

00:08:907 (3) - NC ^

00:09:796 (1) - No NC This is fine because it's on a white tick. And I don't want this combo to be too drawn out compared to the rest of the intro.

00:10:685 (1) - an NC here is unneeded because of the spinner Indicates the next part of the song

00:15:130 (2) - Okay...this slider is asking for breaks x.x It's fine, + see prev. mods We also discussed this in discord but I think you misunderstood (and it's my fault for not elaborating); the blue trail represents a cursor path the player can take with leeway.

00:16:907 (2) - This one just stretches out too much to the right x.x It's already pretty condensed

00:19:352 (2) - NC here. Always add an NC 00:19:574 (1) - drop NC here NC moved. (Didn't put on downbeat because otherwise combos would be too choopy)

00:24:685 (1) - No NC here, on the downbeat Changed also

01:16:463 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - um.....no please? Plays fine with high AR (I agree it does look weird in the editor)

01:20:018 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - this reads terribly. Agreed. I added an offset stack on the overlaps which I think will help

01:24:907 (2) - NC here, and not after the other. I see where your coming from, but I think it's okay. The green combo color is a rarity in the map and represents the transition from the slow to the fast part of the map

02:08:907 (1) - im not a big fan of these zig zag slider things, they seem out of place. Define out-of-place? These go okay to the music.


Im sorry if any of this is against your map style, and its hard for me to give feedback as I cant really do this style of mapping myself so I cant say what is right and wrong on most of it. Sorry if this was short :P It's okay! I'm sorry if it might seem like I didn't change much but your mods were a big help.

Good luck on your map.
Thank you for the mod! :)
Ozato Fumika
[NUTS]
  1. 00:08:130 (5,1) - ugly stacking imo
  2. 00:59:018 (2,4) - maybe these dont have to overlap
    lol this is way too hard for me to mod
[EXTRA]
  1. 02:29:907 (4) - nc to separate the pattern?
  2. 02:54:018 (5,1) - kinda not liking this spacing. very confusing. stack would work just fine imo
  3. 02:57:574 (5,1) - this too
[INSANE]
  1. 00:09:574 (5,6) - pretty sure this is wrong rhythm
  2. 00:12:759 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - at least for insane you should use sliders or mix sliders in. this is way too hard
  3. 00:23:130 (1,2,3,4) - this is something you don't see in insane
  4. 00:24:018 (1,2,3,4) - confusing
  5. 00:27:130 (2) - stack on the tail?...
  6. 00:28:019 (2) - same
  7. 01:00:796 (2,3) - try not to overlap. they look bad to me
  8. 02:21:796 (5) - you should probably nc this


i wonder how people find this kind of music lol

gl
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Moeka wrote:

[NUTS]
  1. 00:08:130 (5,1) - ugly stacking imo Made it better
  2. 00:59:018 (2,4) - maybe these dont have to overlap Changed
    lol this is way too hard for me to mod
[EXTRA]
  1. 02:29:907 (4) - nc to separate the pattern? This is okay.
  2. 02:54:018 (5,1) - kinda not liking this spacing. very confusing. stack would work just fine imo Fine also, it kind of decelerates into the stack
  3. 02:57:574 (5,1) - this too
^
[INSANE]
  1. 00:09:574 (5,6) - pretty sure this is wrong rhythm I'm sure this is okay
  2. 00:12:759 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - at least for insane you should use sliders or mix sliders in. this is way too hard I made 1,2,3 a repeat slider
  3. 00:23:130 (1,2,3,4) - this is something you don't see in insane Made it a normal stream
  4. 00:24:018 (1,2,3,4) - confusing Made it an offset stack
  5. 00:27:130 (2) - stack on the tail?... It's fine
  6. 00:28:019 (2) - same ^
  7. 01:00:796 (2,3) - try not to overlap. they look bad to me Only grazes the next slider, doesn't do much harm
  8. 02:21:796 (5) - you should probably nc this Done!


i wonder how people find this kind of music lol Soundcloud works magic

gl
Thank you for the mod! :)
reanik
Hey there! M4M

Easy
02:00:907 (1) - Slider looks a little oddly shaped, maybe make the rounded section a little "fatter?"

Normal
Check Distance Snap in AIMod, couple of places the DS is off by the looks of things

00:29:352 (3) - You're probably gonna hear a lot of this - oddly shaped slider, just really caught my eye as it's so strangely shaped

01:23:574 (2) - I think I know why it's shaped like this, it just looks odd amongst all the smoother sliders to me

01:54:685 (2) - Again, I think we know what I'm gonna say

02:46:241 (4) - And again, although this one looks like you could just flatten the top part and it'd be fine

Most of the lower Difficulties, it's just weird slider shapes that are making me flag, partly because I'm not amazing at mapping them, so wouldn't know much to say on them.

Hard
01:06:463 (6,7) - Not a nice looking overlap

02:08:907 (1) - Just looks a little weird to me is all

I am going to ask you check some of your DS again in places, and at the start, the stacks feel a little excessive.

Insane
00:04:463 (1,2,1,2) - SPACING, spacing is the same as here: 00:03:574 (1,2) - but on smaller intervals, just feels awkward and confusing to the player.

00:15:130 (3) - Sliders like this are super easy to slider break on.

00:22:241 (1) - Again with weird shapes

00:29:352 (2) - Another easy break slider

01:28:019 (1,2,3) - careful with overlap 1&3, quite difficult to read

02:06:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Jump set is difficult to read, just a personal opinion on that though, I've seen it before it's just I thought this looked hard to read

02:16:018 (1) - Another one easy to break on


A lot of this was looking at slider shapes, as some were really hard to follow when I was playing them. I won't look at the higher difficulties (as I can't play that high a difficulty even trying!) As for other notes, just make sure things lie in DS where they need to be, as some aren't jumps but might be lying outside the DS. I found the Difficulty settings pretty fair, quite enjoyed playing through the set!

This is my first mod in a few months xD so sorry it's not brilliant, and probably mostly stuff you can ignore xD
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

reanik wrote:

Hey there! M4M

Easy
02:00:907 (1) - Slider looks a little oddly shaped, maybe make the rounded section a little "fatter?" True, done

Normal
Check Distance Snap in AIMod, couple of places the DS is off by the looks of things Got it

00:29:352 (3) - You're probably gonna hear a lot of this - oddly shaped slider, just really caught my eye as it's so strangely shaped Made this neat

01:23:574 (2) - I think I know why it's shaped like this, it just looks odd amongst all the smoother sliders to me Fits song

01:54:685 (2) - Again, I think we know what I'm gonna say Fixed

02:46:241 (4) - And again, although this one looks like you could just flatten the top part and it'd be fine Did what you said

Most of the lower Difficulties, it's just weird slider shapes that are making me flag, partly because I'm not amazing at mapping them, so wouldn't know much to say on them.

Hard
01:06:463 (6,7) - Not a nice looking overlap Fixed

02:08:907 (1) - Just looks a little weird to me is all Didn't change the shape but made it look nicer

I am going to ask you check some of your DS again in places, and at the start, the stacks feel a little excessive. DS fluctuates in Hard maps

Insane
00:04:463 (1,2,1,2) - SPACING, spacing is the same as here: 00:03:574 (1,2) - but on smaller intervals, just feels awkward and confusing to the player. I'm sure these small jumps are okay

00:15:130 (3) - Sliders like this are super easy to slider break on. No, this can be very easily played

00:22:241 (1) - Again with weird shapes a e s t h e t i c is okay

00:29:352 (2) - Another easy break slider ^

01:28:019 (1,2,3) - careful with overlap 1&3, quite difficult to read It would be harder to leave if I didn't offset overlap at all

02:06:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Jump set is difficult to read, just a personal opinion on that though, I've seen it before it's just I thought this looked hard to read If you've seen it before then it's probably okay; I made the offset stack consistent tho on 1,3,5,7

02:16:018 (1) - Another one easy to break on Just a corner


A lot of this was looking at slider shapes, as some were really hard to follow when I was playing them. I won't look at the higher difficulties (as I can't play that high a difficulty even trying!) As for other notes, just make sure things lie in DS where they need to be, as some aren't jumps but might be lying outside the DS. I found the Difficulty settings pretty fair, quite enjoyed playing through the set! DS can fluctuate in higher difficulties, I appreciate the comments! Your weird slider shape mods in the lower diffs were very helpful.

This is my first mod in a few months xD so sorry it's not brilliant, and probably mostly stuff you can ignore xD
Thank you for the mod! :)
Yoratama
Hi, M4M here, im not good at this.
SPOILER
EASY
00:02:241 - add note
02:52:463 (1) - Move NC to 02:53:796 (3) - ?
02:55:130 (1) - RC
02:40:461 - Add Circle?
02:46:685 - ^
NORMAL
00:08:907 (1) - Spinner is weird imo , maybe change like 02:00:907 -
01:13:796 (1) - RC?
02:33:796 - ^
02:23:130 (2) - Move NC here
HARD
00:16:907 (1) - RC? because no SV change here. move brown NC here
02:10:685 (1) - Same ^
02:24:907 (1) - ^
02:28:018 (1) - ^
01:22:018 (2) - Short Slider will better imo
02:37:130 (3,4) - Make the stack better
02:41:685 - Remove Circle? feel weird and there's no drum sound
02:48:796 (5) - ^
02:50:463 (3,1,2) - Different beat, but same note place, move 1 of them naybe? im confusing when first testplay.
03:02:018 (7) - NC
Sorry if it's short, don't really understand about dub wub music Dont know what genre it's called lol :D
Hope it Help!
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Yoratama wrote:

Hi, M4M here, im not good at this.
SPOILER
I think RC means "remove combo" but correct me if im wrong
EASY
00:02:241 - add note Done
02:52:463 (1) - Move NC to 02:53:796 (3) - ? Done, did this for entire outro
02:55:130 (1) - RC There's no combo here?
02:40:461 - Add Circle? It's okay like this
02:46:685 - ^^
NORMAL
00:08:907 (1) - Spinner is weird imo , maybe change like 02:00:907 - It's fine here
01:13:796 (1) - RC? Done
02:33:796 - ^ But it's fine here
02:23:130 (2) - Move NC here I think nc is okay here
HARD
00:16:907 (1) - RC? because no SV change here. move brown NC here There's no sv changes to begin with, also nc is okay
02:24:907 (1) - ^ All of these are okay
02:28:018 (1) - ^
01:22:018 (2) - Short Slider will better imo A long slider is fine here
02:37:130 (3,4) - Make the stack better This is a default stack
02:41:685 - Remove Circle? feel weird and there's no drum sound No, there's bongo sound here. All are fine
02:48:796 (5) - ^
02:50:463 (3,1,2) - Different beat, but same note place, move 1 of them naybe? im confusing when first testplay. Did this
03:02:018 (7) - NC Didn't nc that note but I made nc better
Sorry if it's short, don't really understand about dub wub music Dont know what genre it's called lol :D
Hope it Help! It did!
'

Thank you for the mod! :)
Chiyuyu
hi, m4m

[Easy]

  1. 00:00:907 (2) - dont like this slider. offer http://puu.sh/o3rap/5d20999c40.jpg : first node x276 y120, next (lower node) x396 y136, next (upper) x352 y56, and last node x480 y76 (if it is applied, do not forget to put the rest of the objects under the Snap.)
  2. 00:23:130 (1) - http://puu.sh/o3rpo/20b9b34f1f.jpg : x332 y84
  3. 00:26:241 -I think there is need note
  4. 00:40:018 (4) - work with a view of the slider
  5. 01:04:018 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/o3rC6/55c20007c2.jpg
[Insane]

  1. 00:02:130 (3) - delete
  2. 00:35:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - work whit a view the stream
[Extra]

  1. 00:00:019 (1,1) - work with a view of the slider (look askew, like most of the sliders on all the diff)
  2. 02:09:574 - it seems to me, on the tunes here should be a triple
  3. 02:11:796 - ^
    and all related aspects
[Nuts]

  1. 01:50:907 (5) - x120 y96
    I do not know what else you can add here, but one thing is for sure: it is necessary to work with all the streamers (or as it may be called), which look like this: 00: 15: 907 (3,4,5,6,7,8 ) - Yes, I understand that this is a decrease of the distance between the notes, but it looks sloppy
good luck
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Chiyuyu wrote:

hi, m4m

[Easy]

  1. 00:00:907 (2) - dont like this slider. offer http://puu.sh/o3rap/5d20999c40.jpg : first node x276 y120, next (lower node) x396 y136, next (upper) x352 y56, and last node x480 y76 (if it is applied, do not forget to put the rest of the objects under the Snap.) I feel like this is the same thing I have but mirrored
  2. 00:23:130 (1) - http://puu.sh/o3rpo/20b9b34f1f.jpg : x332 y84 done
  3. 00:26:241 -I think there is need note Done
  4. 00:40:018 (4) - work with a view of the slider Made it look nicer
  5. 01:04:018 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/o3rC6/55c20007c2.jpg I like the way this is
[Insane]

  1. 00:02:130 (3) - delete There is a note here
  2. 00:35:796 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - work whit a view the stream Changed this
[Extra]

  1. 00:00:019 (1,1) - work with a view of the slider (look askew, like most of the sliders on all the diff) I think this looks fine
  2. 02:09:574 - it seems to me, on the tunes here should be a triple This pattern works fine
  3. 02:11:796 - ^ ^
    and all related aspects
[Nuts]

  1. 01:50:907 (5) - x120 y96 Changed
    I do not know what else you can add here, but one thing is for sure: it is necessary to work with all the streamers (or as it may be called), which look like this: 00: 15: 907 (3,4,5,6,7,8 ) - Yes, I understand that this is a decrease of the distance between the notes, but it looks sloppy
good luck Im keeping ds decrease but if I ever find a waay to make these look better (I think they're fine atm) I will
Thank you for the mods! :)
Crimmi
Hai, m4m here.

General (Metadata, Timing, etc.)


_________________________________________________________




EASY



  1. 00:09:796 (1,1) - I felt that these two should be switch since this felt odd, most basically because where you had the spinner is mappable and the spinner or a long slider like you had at 01:23:574 (1) (for example) could've been placed at 00:12:463 instead.
  2. 00:27:574 (2) - This could be moved a bit to be aligned with (1).
  3. 00:34:685 (2) - Maybe you can flip this slider for a better flow.
  4. 00:35:574 (3) - I feel here you might've missed a downbeat here by putting a slider a bit early on, but perhaps if you placed two notes in it's place and then adding a slider at 00:36:463 (x), it'll sound better imo.
  5. 00:41:796 (2) - Suggestion.
  6. 02:29:352 (1) - Remove New Combo.

NORMAL



  1. 00:14:907 (2,3) - Perhaps remove the NC from (2) and apply it to (3).
  2. 00:24:907 (1,3) - Remove NC from (1) and apply it to (3).
  3. 00:28:018 (3,1) - Check the spacing on that, it is a Normal after all. Also at 00:28:463 (1), the NC can be removed and be placed at 00:29:352 (6).
[*]01:12:907 (1) - Imbalanced NC.
[*]01:13:796 (1) - ^
[*]01:16:463 (1) - ^
[*]01:17:352 (1) - ^
[*]01:41:352 (1) - ^
[*]02:10:685 (3) - This could be moved to a better spot so that it doesn't get obscured by (1).
[*]02:28:018 (2,3,1,2) - This part here looks like a slight mess, particularly the two sliders overlapping, perhaps you can re-arrange this somehow?[*][*]02:29:574 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacing.
[*]02:48:018 (2) - I don't know how I feel about a hidden slider under another slider on a Normal, but there must be a better place than that.
[*]02:54:241 (4,1) - Check your NC's here, remove the NC from (1) and add it to (4).
[*]03:00:796 (4) - Hmm, why is this one different than the ones you did like 02:58:685 (2)?

HARD



  1. 00:13:796 (4) - Maybe flip this up for better flow?
  2. 00:15:907 (4,5,6) - Check your spacing there.
  3. 00:35:796 (2,3) - Why the random whistles? I don't feel they really fit in this map imo.

Hmm. . . I am not familiar in that kind of music genre so I apologize for the somewhat miniscule mod.
Topic Starter
squirrelpascals

Crimmi wrote:

Hai, m4m here.

EASY



  1. 00:09:796 (1,1) - I felt that these two should be switch since this felt odd, most basically because where you had the spinner is mappable and the spinner or a long slider like you had at 01:23:574 (1) (for example) could've been placed at 00:12:463 instead. I mapped to the spinner
  2. 00:27:574 (2) - This could be moved a bit to be aligned with (1) Moved it down like in the picture.
  3. 00:34:685 (2) - Maybe you can flip this slider for a better flow. Done
  4. 00:35:574 (3) - I feel here you might've missed a downbeat here by putting a slider a bit early on, but perhaps if you placed two notes in it's place and then adding a slider at 00:36:463 (x), it'll sound better imo. This is okay
  5. 00:41:796 (2) - Suggestion.[/color] I like the way this is now
  6. 02:29:352 (1) - Remove New Combo. No, significant change in music here[/color]

NORMAL



  1. 00:14:907 (2,3) - Perhaps remove the NC from (2) and apply it to (3).
  2. 00:24:907 (1,3) - Remove NC from (1) and apply it to (3). Did this in a different way
  3. 00:28:018 (3,1) - Check the spacing on that, it is a Normal after all. Also at 00:28:463 (1), the NC can be removed and be placed at 00:29:352 (6). Fixed spacing Also I went through that whole first part and did better nc's
  4. 01:12:907 (1) - Imbalanced NC. This is fine
  5. 01:13:796 (1) - ^ Don't see an nc here?
  6. 01:16:463 (1) - ^ This is okay. Everything below is also okay
  7. 01:17:352 (1) - ^
  8. 01:41:352 (1) - ^
  9. 02:10:685 (3) - This could be moved to a better spot so that it doesn't get obscured by (1). I changed 1 slider instead, but 3 is now not obscured
  10. 02:28:018 (2,3,1,2) - This part here looks like a slight mess, particularly the two sliders overlapping, perhaps you can re-arrange this somehow? Fixed
    *]02:29:574 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacing. I already adjusted this before hand, guess it's fine now
  11. 02:48:018 (2) - I don't know how I feel about a hidden slider under another slider on a Normal, but there must be a better place than that. Not "hidden," the player has time to realize this positioning of the slider
  12. 02:54:241 (4,1) - Check your NC's here, remove the NC from (1) and add it to (4). This is okay
  13. 03:00:796 (4) - Hmm, why is this one different than the ones you did like 02:58:685 (2)? It's longer and has more room to curve. This difference is okay.

HARD



  1. 00:13:796 (4) - Maybe flip this up for better flow? Like the way it flows from 3. Very seperated from the next part also.
  2. 00:15:907 (4,5,6) - Check your spacing there. It's okay to fluctuate ds in hard
  3. 00:35:796 (2,3) - Why the random whistles? I don't feel they really fit in this map imo. Because I didn't use a whistle, I just used that button for hitsounds :P

Hmm. . . I am not familiar in that kind of music genre so I apologize for the somewhat miniscule mod.
Thank you for the mod! :)
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