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ecosystem - Dilemma

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pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
pkhg
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on jueves, 12 de mayo de 2016 at 1:05:08

Artist: ecosystem
Title: Dilemma
Source: 銀魂´
Tags: atsuro battle gintama' gintama gintoki kagura shinpachi sunrise tv size 2012 enchousen
BPM: 186
Filesize: 8679kb
Play Time: 01:39
Difficulties Available:
  1. Atsuro's Dilemma (5 stars, 475 notes)
  2. Battle's Normal (2,16 stars, 205 notes)
  3. Easy (1,94 stars, 144 notes)
  4. Hard (3,38 stars, 325 notes)
  5. Insane (4,3 stars, 373 notes)
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Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
rip other bg could i at least have it on my diff lol
teko8
108 posts
Joined July 2012
teko8
From my NM modding queue. A short mod of all diffs.

General Modding

Easy:

Rated as a Normal though you probably know that xD.
SV on the first two sliders is slightly too fast for an Easy. I would reduce SV and slider length slightly.

Battle's Normal:

00:39:123 (4) - NC.
00:49:672 (4) - NC. (Consistency with previous change)
01:20:657 (1) - Remove NC.
01:21:324 (2) - NC.
01:37:469 (3,4) - AiMod: 4 too far from previous object

Hard:

Looks good to me. The only thing I can really make a comment about is whether the streams are Hard friendly or not.

Insane:

01:10:433 - Sounds like a stream could be used here.
01:18:991 (2) - Ctrl+g on this, flows better imo, especially since 01:19:991 (1,2) - are facing opposite directions.
01:20:657 (3) - NC?
01:20:657 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Hitsounds here could be better (I can't come up with a way tho :( ).
01:21:324 - Short kiai toggle (may be intentional though).
01:26:428 (6) - Sampleset to Auto.
Other Possible Changes

Battle's Normal:

01:21:324 (2) - NC.

Hard:

00:17:199 (2) - , 00:17:859 (4) - , 00:18:520 (2) - NC.
00:18:024 (1) - Remove NC.

Sorry that it's short. :( Good luck on the set~
pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
pkhg

teko8 wrote:

From my NM modding queue. A short mod of all diffs.

General Modding

Easy:

Rated as a Normal though you probably know that xD.
SV on the first two sliders is slightly too fast for an Easy. I would reduce SV and slider length slightly. i know but its still rankable

Hard:

Looks good to me. The only thing I can really make a comment about is whether the streams are Hard friendly or not.yeah i think the same, ill be asking more ppl for opinions

Insane:

01:10:433 - Sounds like a stream could be used here. i dont think so
01:18:991 (2) - Ctrl+g on this, flows better imo, especially since 01:19:991 (1,2) - are facing opposite directions. thats intended
01:20:657 (3) - NC? im ncing every 1 measure
01:20:657 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Hitsounds here could be better (I can't come up with a way tho :( ). i think theyre good. im trying to make them the same as the music
01:21:324 - Short kiai toggle (may be intentional though). it is xd
01:26:428 (6) - Sampleset to Auto. oops

Other Possible Changes

Hard:

00:17:199 (2) - , 00:17:859 (4) - , 00:18:520 (2) - NC.
00:18:024 (1) - Remove NC. same as what i said on insane

Sorry that it's short. :( Good luck on the set~
thanks!
Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
x
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 39040
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Dilemma
TitleUnicode:ジレンマ
Artist:ecosystem
ArtistUnicode:ecosystem
Creator:pkhg
Version:Battle's Normal
Source:銀魂’
Tags:atsuro battle gintama' gintama gintoki kagura shinpachi sunrise
BeatmapID:921573
BeatmapSetID:418313

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No changes to NCs since it's every other downbeat excluding ones made by timing point changes. Fixed DS.
Kagetsu
796 posts
Joined March 2015
Kagetsu
[Insane]
  1. 00:06:052 (4) - clap?
  2. 00:29:542 (5) - quizas podrias transformar este slider en 2 circulos para seguir la guitarra, y porque ademas le da como mas acentuacion (?) a 00:29:868 (1) - (no se mucho de esto, quizas estas undermapeando para que no sea tan dificil xd)
  3. 00:34:496 - es muy raro que este beat no sea clickeable xd por la voz... en realidad 00:34:000 (2,3) - esos dos estan offbeat y en realidad no siguen nada en especial... podria ser por el whistle pero igual no me convence tanto xd
  4. 00:36:965 (3,4) - ctrl+g? ritmiticamente hablando, para seguir la voz xd creo que hiciste esto asi por el patron anterior (00:35:157 (1,2,3) - ) pero en este caso como que no funciona de igual forma
  5. 00:54:452 (3,4,5) - quizas stackear esto con 00:53:628 (1) - manualmente (aunque igual se ve bonito como esta)
    sugerencia
[Hard]
  1. 00:06:052 (4) - clap?
  2. 00:15:714 (2) - este slider es como medio anti-pkhg xdd no se, fue raro cuando lo mire como que no encaja en tu estilo xd quizas podrias hacer un slider semi recto paralelo a 00:16:374 (4) - (aunque igual se ve bonito)
[Battle's Normal]
  1. 00:09:936 (3) - 00:11:257 (6) - 00:13:238 (4) - 00:15:879 (5) - those notes doesn't deserve to be clickable imo, there isn't a noticeable sound so adding that unnecessary density in a normal diff... isn't that good
  2. 00:39:123 (4) - add nc? music change is highly noticeable here
  3. cool
[Easy]
  1. k
good luck
pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
pkhg

Kagetsu wrote:

[Insane]
  1. 00:06:052 (4) - clap? ups
  2. 00:29:542 (5) - quizas podrias transformar este slider en 2 circulos para seguir la guitarra, y porque ademas le da como mas acentuacion (?) a 00:29:868 (1) - (no se mucho de esto, quizas estas undermapeando para que no sea tan dificil xd) no se usar circulos :(
  3. 00:34:496 - es muy raro que este beat no sea clickeable xd por la voz... en realidad 00:34:000 (2,3) - esos dos estan offbeat y en realidad no siguen nada en especial... podria ser por el whistle pero igual no me convence tanto xd estoy siguiendo los hi hat, creo que asi se llaman xd
  4. 00:36:965 (3,4) - ctrl+g? ritmiticamente hablando, para seguir la voz xd creo que hiciste esto asi por el patron anterior (00:35:157 (1,2,3) - ) pero en este caso como que no funciona de igual forma guitarra time
  5. 00:54:452 (3,4,5) - quizas stackear esto con 00:53:628 (1) - manualmente (aunque igual se ve bonito como esta)oka
    sugerencia
[Hard]
  1. 00:06:052 (4) - clap? ups
  2. 00:15:714 (2) - este slider es como medio anti-pkhg xdd no se, fue raro cuando lo mire como que no encaja en tu estilo xd quizas podrias hacer un slider semi recto paralelo a 00:16:374 (4) - (aunque igual se ve bonito) concuerdo con que se ve bonito xd
[Easy]
  1. k
good luck
thx
Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
Changed NC
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lit120
3,251 posts
Joined August 2013
lit120
let's go!

with pkhentaig here, who likes to play eroge stuff go back to your eroge lair pkhentaig ):<

[Atsuro]
  1. 00:05:803 (4,5) - i guess these 2 need a clap ((4) tail))
  2. 00:28:564 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - damn son, looks good for this
  3. 00:50:331 (4,5) - i wonder why this is close. looks like i know what you did here
  4. 01:10:433 (4) - i don't think normal whistle is needed here on tail
[Insane]
  1. 00:38:112 (2) - hOI! this one isn't stacked with 00:37:452 (5) - properly
  2. 01:15:873 (5,6) - clap on this in Auto Sampleset (yeah, it's Soft)
  3. 01:37:799 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - yawn, same sticking on a same note placement kinda boring here. try to make sth different here
[pkHardg]
  1. no
there! can't mod Normal and Easy, sorry

GL!
Atsuro
1,290 posts
Joined January 2013
Atsuro

lit120 wrote:

  1. 00:05:803 (4,5) - i guess these 2 need a clap ((4) tail)) Nah, don't like how it sounds
  2. 00:28:564 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - damn son, looks good for this B^)
  3. 00:50:331 (4,5) - i wonder why this is close. looks like i know what you did here It works
  4. 01:10:433 (4) - i don't think normal whistle is needed here on tail Agree
Thanks

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pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
pkhg

lit120 wrote:

let's go!

with pkhentaig here, who likes to play eroge stuff go back to your eroge lair pkhentaig ):< /me slaps

[Insane]
  1. 00:38:112 (2) - hOI! this one isn't stacked with 00:37:452 (5) - properly on purpose xd
  2. 01:15:873 (5,6) - clap on this in Auto Sampleset (yeah, it's Soft) on purpose lolz
  3. 01:37:799 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - yawn, same sticking on a same note placement kinda boring here. try to make sth different here i suck at placing circles
GL!
thx
CSLM
1,058 posts
Joined May 2013
CSLM
hi, m4m

General

  1. The clap sound have 10ms of delay: http://puu.sh/nJp7z/2b27a577ff.png here a clap sound without delay: abreme
  2. The "widescreen Support" option is on in all the diffs except in [Insane]

Easy

  1. 00:23:297 (3) - tal vez si extiendes este slider a 00:23:953 - para que mantenga mas consistencia la polaridad de todo el pattern (00:21:656 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - )
  2. 00:27:897 (3,1) - no te sugiero que hagas patterns triangulares, los newbies podrian seguir la cola del slider en vez de la cabeza, asi mismo con los similares (aunque resalto mas 00:41:760 (1,2,3) - 00:44:397 (1,2,3) - 00:58:556 (2,1) - 01:00:873 (2,3,4) - 01:08:785 (2,3,4) -
  3. 00:50:991 (3) - mmm, que tal si haces la segunda parte curva de este slider menos arqueada? asi mantiene mas consistencia con 00:52:309 (1) -
  4. 01:04:170 (2,2) - stack stack stack stack stack (lo hiciste antes, porque no ahora?)

Battle's Normal

  1. 00:03:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - i think more enjoyable that part adding a reverse in the sliders instead of adding 3/4 sliders + circle, now the polarity space seems confusing imo, specially because 00:05:140 (5,6) - it's not 3/4
  2. 00:16:044 (6) - *nazi* the fact that the red point is not in the slidertick it's on purpose?
  3. 00:25:100 (2) - ^
  4. 00:31:025 - emphatize this beat, of that way 00:30:859 (3,4) - stay of the same space that the previously ones (i mean, 1/1), same with 00:34:826 - and 00:38:786 -
  5. 00:56:265 (1) - make this slider 2/3 (extend it to 00:56:760 - ) for follow the vocals, you did it in the whole diff
  6. 01:02:851 (1) - ^
  7. 01:10:104 (5) - avoid of keep the reverses in the direction of the next object, could be confusing, also looks forced imo. Moving the tail down or in the center would look better imo
  8. 01:15:378 (5) - make this slider 2/3 and move it to 01:15:214 - Imo that beat should be emphatized, due to the fact that the previous pattern follow the vocals
  9. 01:17:340 (4) - ^
  10. 01:36:808 (1,2,3,4) - same that i said in the beginning

Hard

  1. 00:08:451 (6,7,8,9) - pkk, please u.u un quintuplet en una hard diff no es muy bien visto y lo sabes o3o (mucho mas en una cancion con un BPM alto). Es mejor que lo cambies a reverse kick-sliders, igual con los similares
  2. 00:19:015 (7,2) - *nazi* stack
  3. 00:28:564 (1,3) - imho no tendria sentido que apiles estos sliders si 00:28:890 (2,4) - no lo estan, mejor has un overlap
  4. 01:19:658 (4,6) - ^
  5. 01:38:791 (3) - cambialos a circulos, enfatizan mas los drums

Insane

  1. Nada que decir, solo el hecho de que la forma que lo mapeaste deja como consecuensia muchos obverlaps no deseados, por ejemplo: 00:22:805 (4,1) - 00:22:969 (5,2) - 00:23:789 (3,1) - 00:33:008 (2,1) - 00:57:090 (4,5) - etc...
  2. Otra cosa que me gustaria decir, es que hay secciones (en el kiai mas que todo) en las cuales predominan la vocal, dejando secciones de 1/1, que tu las mapeaste como 1/2 00:22:805 (4,5) - 01:03:345 (3,4) - 01:04:664 (3,4) -
  3. 01:35:817 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - añade un kick-slider plz, este stream es der diablo D: (ademas no deberian hacerse streams asi de largos para una insane de este tipo)
  4. Ya te lo he dicho antes: No eres Kibbleru :P

Casi no se modear extras (mas que todo porque no puedo jugarlos lel), estas son sugerencias despues de que lo juge con AutoPilot y la examinación usual en el editor lel

Atsuro's Dilemma

  1. 00:19:840 (3,4) - blanket con 00:19:015 (9,10,11,12,1) - ?
  2. 00:34:826 (1) - no hagas esto D: ya que la intensidad de la diff la estas aplicando mucho, este slider (a pesar del NC) se confunde con uno de 1/2 (mas que todo por el hecho de que lo pusiste junto al lado, para confundir mas a los players -_-). Es mas factible imo si colocas un stack de 1/1 como hiciste con los anteriores
  3. 00:30:363 (3,4) - porque no mejor lo subes hasta hacer un blanket con 00:30:859 (5) - ?
  4. 00:56:595 (2,4) - mmm, en vez de colocar estos circulos a un costado del slider, porque no colocarlos en la linea central de Y o cerca? asi le da mas variación a diferencia de los patrones anteriores
  5. 01:19:907 (5) - elimina este circulo plz, lo que hace es estorbar y confundir inho ya que es overmap
  6. 01:21:324 - hasta aqui termina el kiai, si lo extiendes terminalo hasta el final porque el que lo termines en 01:34:496 - es extraño imo
  7. 01:27:910 (1,2) - plz, mueve esto un tick rojo atras (en 01:27:745 - ) sigues mucho mas la vocal de esa forma

GL with rank
choo choo~
pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
pkhg

CSLM wrote:

hi, m4m

General

  1. The clap sound have 10ms of delay: http://puu.sh/nJp7z/2b27a577ff.png here a clap sound without delay: abreme
  2. The "widescreen Support" option is on in all the diffs except in [Insane]
    todo fixeado

Easy

  1. 00:23:297 (3) - tal vez si extiendes este slider a 00:23:953 - para que mantenga mas consistencia la polaridad de todo el pattern (00:21:656 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - ) no se que sea eso de polaridad pero estoy siguiendo la voz :p
  2. 00:27:897 (3,1) - no te sugiero que hagas patterns triangulares, los newbies podrian seguir la cola del slider en vez de la cabeza, asi mismo con los similares (aunque resalto mas 00:41:760 (1,2,3) - 00:44:397 (1,2,3) - 00:58:556 (2,1) - 01:00:873 (2,3,4) - 01:08:785 (2,3,4) - hay suficiente tiempo entre las notas como para equivocarese, aun asi voy a buscar mas opioniones para estar seguro~
  3. 00:50:991 (3) - mmm, que tal si haces la segunda parte curva de este slider menos arqueada? asi mantiene mas consistencia con 00:52:309 (1) - se ve feo si la arqueo menos imo
  4. 01:04:170 (2,2) - stack stack stack stack stack (lo hiciste antes, porque no ahora?) creo que estuve moviendo unos patterns y quedo asi xd

Hard

  1. 00:08:451 (6,7,8,9) - pkk, please u.u un quintuplet en una hard diff no es muy bien visto y lo sabes o3o (mucho mas en una cancion con un BPM alto). Es mejor que lo cambies a reverse kick-sliders, igual con los similares si ya me dijeron varias veces pero me gustaria dejarlo xd
  2. 00:19:015 (7,2) - *nazi* stack siempre se mueve :( peppy pls
  3. 00:28:564 (1,3) - imho no tendria sentido que apiles estos sliders si 00:28:890 (2,4) - no lo estan, mejor has un overlap ta bien asi :p
  4. 01:19:658 (4,6) - ^ este es diferente xd
  5. 01:38:791 (3) - cambialos a circulos, enfatizan mas los drums no se usar circulos ;A;

Insane

  1. Nada que decir, solo el hecho de que la forma que lo mapeaste deja como consecuensia muchos obverlaps no deseados, por ejemplo: 00:22:805 (4,1) - 00:22:969 (5,2) - 00:23:789 (3,1) - 00:33:008 (2,1) - 00:57:090 (4,5) - etc... nadie los nota ademas ya sabia de los overlaps :p
  2. Otra cosa que me gustaria decir, es que hay secciones (en el kiai mas que todo) en las cuales predominan la vocal, dejando secciones de 1/1, que tu las mapeaste como 1/2 00:22:805 (4,5) - 01:03:345 (3,4) - 01:04:664 (3,4) - no me voy a saltar los drums :p
  3. 01:35:817 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - añade un kick-slider plz, este stream es der diablo D: (ademas no deberian hacerse streams asi de largos para una insane de este tipo) por algo hay quintuplets en el hard :3
  4. Ya te lo he dicho antes: No eres Kibbleru :P no me compares con novatos q8)

GL with rank
choo choo~
ty
Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
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CSLM wrote:

hi, m4m

Battle's Normal

  1. 00:03:815 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - i think more enjoyable that part adding a reverse in the sliders instead of adding 3/4 sliders + circle, now the polarity space seems confusing imo, specially because 00:05:140 (5,6) - it's not 3/4 Dunno for now, I'll keep since 3/4 plus circle plays a bit better imo but you know, it's questionable to even have 3/4 in a normal but yeah. lol, plus the distance for 5,6 isn't that confusing, it's noticeably larger than the 3/4 -> circle sequences
  2. 00:16:044 (6) - *nazi* the fact that the red point is not in the slidertick it's on purpose? it's on purpose
  3. 00:25:100 (2) - ^ ^
  4. 00:31:025 - emphatize this beat, of that way 00:30:859 (3,4) - stay of the same space that the previously ones (i mean, 1/1), same with 00:34:826 - and 00:38:786 - no for first, okay on other ones
  5. 00:56:265 (1) - make this slider 2/3 (extend it to 00:56:760 - ) for follow the vocals, you did it in the whole diff
  6. 01:02:851 (1) - ^ This one follows vocals fine so no
  7. 01:10:104 (5) - avoid of keep the reverses in the direction of the next object, could be confusing, also looks forced imo. Moving the tail down or in the center would look better imo I don't really think so, the whole forced notion, I mean I guess it could be forced, but it's the only way it can be visually appealing lol
  8. 01:15:378 (5) - make this slider 2/3 and move it to 01:15:214 - Imo that beat should be emphatized, due to the fact that the previous pattern follow the vocals did sth
  9. 01:17:340 (4) - ^ like other, follows vocals
  10. 01:36:808 (1,2,3,4) - same that i said in the beginning same


GL with rank
choo choo~

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l8r
Atsuro
1,290 posts
Joined January 2013
Atsuro

CSLM wrote:

  1. 00:19:840 (3,4) - blanket con 00:19:015 (9,10,11,12,1) - ? No seria visible a la hora de jugar asi que no es necesario
  2. 00:34:826 (1) - no hagas esto D: ya que la intensidad de la diff la estas aplicando mucho, este slider (a pesar del NC) se confunde con uno de 1/2 (mas que todo por el hecho de que lo pusiste junto al lado, para confundir mas a los players -_-). Es mas factible imo si colocas un stack de 1/1 como hiciste con los anteriores Dejé el slider pero hice que la diferencia en el ritmo sea más visible (aqui hay un "wub" que no esta presente en otras partes similares)
  3. 00:30:363 (3,4) - porque no mejor lo subes hasta hacer un blanket con 00:30:859 (5) - ? Está muy lejos como para que sea "apreciable" el blanket, no le agregaria estructura
  4. 00:56:595 (2,4) - mmm, en vez de colocar estos circulos a un costado del slider, porque no colocarlos en la linea central de Y o cerca? asi le da mas variación a diferencia de los patrones anteriores De esta manera enfatizo mas los slider heads, ya que el salto es mucho mayor a comparación del movimiento que se hace hacia los circulos
  5. 01:19:907 (5) - elimina este circulo plz, lo que hace es estorbar y confundir inho ya que es overmap 98% seguro de que hay bateria ahi
  6. 01:21:324 - hasta aqui termina el kiai, si lo extiendes terminalo hasta el final porque el que lo termines en 01:34:496 - es extraño imo Hice algo así
  7. 01:27:910 (1,2) - plz, mueve esto un tick rojo atras (en 01:27:745 - ) sigues mucho mas la vocal de esa forma Pero así dejo al downbeat sin ser "clickeable" y por alguna razón se siente raro para mi en esta parte especificamente :p
Gracias!

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pkhg
2,507 posts
Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
pkhg
updated
Xinying
559 posts
Joined July 2013
Xinying
Just something I'm unsure of , I hear these notes 00:03:815 (1,3,1) - as 1/6 snapped. Can someone confirm? no kds.
Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
pretty sure it's 1/4
squirrelpascals
982 posts
Joined March 2015
squirrelpascals
m4m

General
• Make that dark grey combo color lighter, approach circles are kind of difficult to see.

Hard
• 00:11:422 (1,2) - Why not make this flow into the next circle more?*

• 00:15:383 (1,2) - Blanket at x168, y188

• 00:18:024 (1,2,3) - Remove nc from 1 and put it on 3

• 00:34:661 (4,5) - Delete 4 and put 5 in it's place?

• 01:04:664 (3,4,1) - 3 and 1 overlap looks bad in the editor. I aligned 1 parallel with 3 and used ctrl+h and restacked; This looks better

• 01:07:137 (2) - Move this downwards so it doesn't interrupt flow

• 01:18:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would change the direction/position of these sliders to be more similar so that they look nicer when they overlap.

Insane
• 00:14:063 (1) - ctrl + g?*

• 00:21:656 (4) - ^

• 00:22:969 (5,1) - feels weird how 5 flows away from 1. Change 1 placement

• 00:39:123 (1) - This slider might as well be straight *

• 00:53:628 (1) - Make the flow go more like This?

• 01:07:796 (4,2) - imo this would look nicer without the offset stack and just putting 2 on 4 slidertail.

• 01:27:416 (4,1) - put these closer together?

• 01:38:130 (1,2,3,4) - Why are these doubles?

dilemma
• This map's kiai time is longer than all other diffs. Make it the same

• 00:01:557 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - nc 3 and 6?

• 00:07:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - I would throw an nc on 10, maybe 4 and 7

• 00:16:374 (5,6,1,2) - It's weird how this triple flows away from the next slider

• 00:18:685 (5) - nc

• 00:34:826 (1) - Remove sv change here

• 00:48:353 (1) - ctrl+g?

• 00:59:547 (4) - nc?

• 01:09:444 (1,2,3) - flow seems kinda choppy*

• 01:13:895 (4,5,6) - Why this triple?

• 01:15:708 (8) - nc? And also, the ds changed kind of shocked me in testplay

• 01:23:958 (1,2) - blanket

• 01:36:478 (9) - nc?

*=shows up throughout the map

gl! :)
SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
2,106 posts
Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_
From my queue

  1. 01:10:104 (3) - add a finish?
  2. 00:07:791 (4,7,10) - NC
  3. 00:12:412 (5) - move a little bit right to stick with 00:11:422 (1) - sliderend
  4. 00:38:786 (5) - why you didnt change the sv to x0.7 but you did it on the previous slider 00:34:826 (1) - lol? and i think 00:38:786 (5,1) - could blanker more nicer
  5. 00:50:496 (5,1) - avoid this tiny overlap
  1. 00:23:625 (2) - move a little bit upward to stick with 00:24:281 (5) - sliderend
  2. 00:25:592 (4) - move a little bit upward to stick with 00:26:084 (3) - sliderend
  3. 00:46:705 (5) - move a little bit upward to stick with 00:46:046 (2) -
  4. 00:47:199 (2) - ^
  5. 00:48:024 (1) - ^
  6. 00:51:320 (2) - move a little bit left to stick with 00:50:496 (2) -
  7. 00:52:309 (1) - move a little bit left to stick with 00:51:320 (2) -
  8. 00:59:214 (2) - move to 253 80 to consist the spacing with 00:59:547 (3,4,5,6,7) -
  9. 01:09:115 (4) - move a little bit upward to stick with 01:09:774 (2) - sliderend
  10. 01:30:379 (1) - move a little bit sownward to stick with 01:29:227 (1) - sliderend
wat a nice map ><
i really like the insane diff although it got a lots of small mistake
shoot a star XD
GL~ :D
pkhg
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Joined May 2010
Topic Starter
pkhg

Chocox wrote:

Just something I'm unsure of , I hear these notes 00:03:815 (1,3,1) - as 1/6 snapped. Can someone confirm? no kds.
theyre 1/4 but my timing sucks

squirrelpascals wrote:

m4m

General
• Make that dark grey combo color lighter, approach circles are kind of difficult to see. i need to think in a new ones

Hard
• 00:11:422 (1,2) - Why not make this flow into the next circle more?* idk how

• 00:15:383 (1,2) - Blanket at x168, y188 http://puu.sh/nLbyP/a1a3753650.jpg

• 00:18:024 (1,2,3) - Remove nc from 1 and put it on 3 that will break the nc pattern

• 00:34:661 (4,5) - Delete 4 and put 5 in it's place? 00:34:826 - this needs to be clickable

• 01:04:664 (3,4,1) - 3 and 1 overlap looks bad in the editor. I aligned 1 parallel with 3 and used ctrl+h and restacked; This looks better mines better imo

• 01:07:137 (2) - Move this downwards so it doesn't interrupt flow its on purpose

• 01:18:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would change the direction/position of these sliders to be more similar so that they look nicer when they overlap.prefer mine

Insane
• 00:14:063 (1) - ctrl + g?* i prefer spacing to be larger between 00:13:733 (6,1) -

• 00:21:656 (4) - ^ ^

• 00:22:969 (5,1) - feels weird how 5 flows away from 1. Change 1 placement not for me lol

• 00:39:123 (1) - This slider might as well be straight * it kinda is

• 00:53:628 (1) - Make the flow go more like This? looks weird between 00:53:298 (4,1) -

• 01:07:796 (4,2) - imo this would look nicer without the offset stack and just putting 2 on 4 slidertail. sure

• 01:27:416 (4,1) - put these closer together? http://puu.sh/nLcaF/40f2716419.jpg

• 01:38:130 (1,2,3,4) - Why are these doubles?1 and 3 are like more predominant and 2,4 dont need to be emphasized


*=shows up throughout the map

gl! :)
i think i fixed everything from snownino's but these always moves a bit

thanks a lot guys
Underforest
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Underforest
mod placeholding for a while

awiwi nah
Last edited by Underforest , edited 1 time in total.
snz
877 posts
Joined February 2015
snz
From my queue.

Easy


00:29:868 (1) - Cool slider but i made some improvements.
SPOILER

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00:58:881 (3) - Delete NC here, i dunno if here is a good time for NC

Normal


01:20:657 (1) - Delete NC to add NC at 01:21:324 (2) -

Hard


01:12:082 (1) - Delete NC

Insane


Sorry about that, but this difficult is perfect

Dilemma


01:06:807 (1) - Delete NC

Sorry for short mod, but your map is perfect.
Good luck with rank
Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
majority of the time i ignore new downbeats made by timing changes so no change
Atsuro
1,290 posts
Joined January 2013
Atsuro

squirrelpascals wrote:

dilemma
• This map's kiai time is longer than all other diffs. Make it the same Nah, i like it like that

• 00:01:557 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - nc 3 and 6? Not necessary to spam nc like that

• 00:07:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - I would throw an nc on 10, maybe 4 and 7 idk i think it's perfectly readable like this

• 00:16:374 (5,6,1,2) - It's weird how this triple flows away from the next slider Flow break so yeah

• 00:18:685 (5) - nc Not necesary

• 00:34:826 (1) - Remove sv change here Why? it's cool m8

• 00:48:353 (1) - ctrl+g? Would be the contrary to what i was trying to do

• 00:59:547 (4) - nc? Streams don't need nc

• 01:09:444 (1,2,3) - flow seems kinda choppy* I actually think i made the flow here a bit too easy to follow, but won't change as i don't want to make it harder

• 01:13:895 (4,5,6) - Why this triple? Even if there is no triple on the song, it plays well and makes sense, i made it so it's consistent with other patterns like here 01:03:345 (4,5,6) -

• 01:15:708 (8) - nc? And also, the ds changed kind of shocked me in testplay Not needed

• 01:23:958 (1,2) - blanket Improved

• 01:36:478 (9) - nc? n

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

  1. 01:10:104 (3) - add a finish? Good idea
  2. 00:07:791 (4,7,10) - NC Not necesary, it's perfectly readable (ar 9.2 is more than enough :v)
  3. 00:12:412 (5) - move a little bit right to stick with 00:11:422 (1) - sliderend Oke
  4. 00:38:786 (5) - why you didnt change the sv to x0.7 but you did it on the previous slider 00:34:826 (1) - lol? and i think 00:38:786 (5,1) - could blanker more nicer The tones are way different, the slowdown on the second slider wouldn't make sense. Also didn't blanket intentionally
  5. 00:50:496 (5,1) - avoid this tiny overlap ya

Ppus wrote:

01:06:807 (1) - Delete NC why, it's part of the nc pattern
Thanks all

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Satellite
3,683 posts
Joined June 2012
Satellite
Hello~

[Battle's Normal]
  1. Easy diff CS3 Hard diff CS4 so. changed CS3.5 more better diff spread imo.
  2. 00:16:539 - add note here ? Along a next existing pattern.
  3. 00:22:641 (2,3) - I know that you take rhythm along a melody. But I think that this rhythm is easy to play more.
  4. 00:31:190 - add note. I think This spacing is really awkward at 00:30:859 (3,4) - this place.
  5. 00:34:826 (6) - add whistle,clap and Additions : D please. probably you forgot this hitsound.
  6. 00:38:449 (3) - same as above. on slider end.
  7. 00:57:254 (3) - add clap on slider head.
[Hard]
  1. 00:25:920 (1) - It's hard to watch slider reverse point. so I think changed another pattern more better.
  2. 01:19:658 (4,6) - same as above.
[Atsuro's Dilemma]
  1. 00:24:936 (2,3) - This spacing is really awkward. spacing is considerably nearer than a former pattern at 00:19:675 (2,3) - so 00:24:936 (2) - move 00:25:592 (5) - slider head ?
  2. 00:35:157 (1,2,3,4) - It is hard to play this flow very much. so Try this ? (It's my suggustion if you don't agree my sugguestion ignore pls)
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  3. 01:38:791 (5) - add Nc ?
Easy , Insane diff nothing to say. good job :>
Good Luck ~
Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
fixed all except adding note on 16 since I don't feel like it's too strong of a note and the pause feels fine for me

I literally just re-copied the hitsounds since there was some that were off pointed out in the mod lol
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 39040
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Dilemma
TitleUnicode:ジレンマ
Artist:ecosystem
ArtistUnicode:ecosystem
Creator:pkhg
Version:Battle's Normal
Source:銀魂’
Tags:atsuro battle gintama' gintama gintoki kagura shinpachi sunrise
BeatmapID:921573
BeatmapSetID:418313

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.2
SliderTickRate:2

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Atsuro
1,290 posts
Joined January 2013
Atsuro

Satellite wrote:

[Atsuro's Dilemma]
  1. 00:24:936 (2,3) - This spacing is really awkward. spacing is considerably nearer than a former pattern at 00:19:675 (2,3) - so 00:24:936 (2) - move 00:25:592 (5) - slider head ?Did something, increased spacing
  2. 00:35:157 (1,2,3,4) - It is hard to play this flow very much. so Try this ? (It's my suggustion if you don't agree my sugguestion ignore pls) It's not hard for me at all, idk
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  3. 01:38:791 (5) - add Nc ? Yeah
Thanks!

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