Khelly wrote:
Railey2 wrote:
He completely disregards the emotional, the social and the religious part of it. He reduces marriage to a fiscal procedure to try and make his argument work.
To me, marriage is entirely a fiscal procedure and his opnion in that regard is relevant. It's almost like you can view marriage in different ways to different people!
I don't think marriage should be barred between any two people because it doesn't fucking matter who gets married to whom and if you say gays shouldn't marry because they can get financial benefit then why does that not apply to straight people?
His logic was that men earn more than women, therefore two men have too much of a financial advantage over womanXman (straight) and womanXwoman. Therefore it should be banned for gay couples only, but not for straight couples.
It's a shitty argument, and falls with the premise1 that financial bonuses are everything that matters to people when it comes to marriage, and premise2 that gay couples hold significantly higher financial power than straight or lesbian ones (to a degree that would warrant a strict ban of gay marriage).
Following his logic, it would make more sense to just ban marriage based on shared income, but he never brought that up. Go over a certain $$$ value and you're out. Why discriminate based on sexuality? Makes no fucking sense.
Anyways, his argument is shit and everyone with a brain knows that. I'm glad we agree on that.
Dulcet wrote:
Khelly wrote:
Besides, even if they could find another job, that's not even one of the problems. The problem is that YOU who are under qualified are being put in a position that could better be served by someone else.
e2: This is a problem for the company and how that company benefits the outside world in some small way as a result of your potential incapabilities compared to the other person.
oh yeah as if I would apply for a job that I am under qualified for it already. If I get that job, then I'd agree with you. That's bullshit. But if I get the job I have the credentials for, what's there to complain about?
if Y gets the job over X because of Y's gender, even though X is better qualified to do the job, then you call that sexist.
So, why complain? You could also ask why one should prefer fairness over unfairness.
If that doesn't make it obvious, you might want to take a look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_RuleMost people seem to agree that consistently sticking to this rule contributes to living in a generally better world. I know you wouldn't want to have your job-application shredded just because you are gender X.