i suck at streaming and i suck at hr, which should i practice first?
Thank you Mr. Monstrata.HK_ wrote:
I have really hard time understanding how you people who are sub 5k still cant stream...
chainpullz wrote:
Thank you Mr. Monstrata.HK_ wrote:
I have really hard time understanding how you people who are sub 5k still cant stream...
A lot of his maps have streams these days tbh but you can't deny hes a large reason for the static spacing triangle spam mapping meta. The funny thing is he was never a triangle mapper. People were just too dense to see that all the triangles formed a hexagrid and that was the heart of his mapping style.Khelly wrote:
chainpullz wrote:
Thank you Mr. Monstrata.
His last map is such good stream practice
Play his maps then. You will reach 10k rank if you can FC most of his maps, which is not a very hard thing to do if you are quite good at jumps. The hard thing is acc, because usually the OD is highHK_ wrote:
I dont really play his maps so i have no idea what do you mean but whatever...
So basically you can get 10k rank by being good at acc and aim.DeathAdderz wrote:
Play his maps then. You will reach 10k rank if you can FC most of his maps, which is not a very hard thing to do if you are quite good at jumps. The hard thing is acc, because usually the OD is highHK_ wrote:
I dont really play his maps so i have no idea what do you mean but whatever...
Streaming IS aim.otoed1 wrote:
I got to 8k off of pure aim before I stopped trying to be good at this game, aim is clearly too OP. Streaming is harder than aim imo.
Because you never askHK_ wrote:
wtf if i worked a little bit on my aim id be shitting pp
why did nobody tell me earlier about that??
No it's not.Khelly wrote:
Streaming IS aim.otoed1 wrote:
I got to 8k off of pure aim before I stopped trying to be good at this game, aim is clearly too OP. Streaming is harder than aim imo.
:/DeathAdderz wrote:
Because you never ask
Then pls explain why is there so many people who can deathstream 222 bpm but there are so few FCs on FD4D?B1rd wrote:
No it's not.Khelly wrote:
Streaming IS aim.
If I SSed my current top rank or 3rd top rank they would be worth 270pp.HK_ wrote:
I have really hard time understanding how you people who are sub 5k still cant stream...
Lol streaming requires aimB1rd wrote:
No it's not.
B1rd, I hate you, but I know you're not completely retarded. Do you actually have experience playing streams? Like, actual fucking experience on harder streams? The harder a stream is to aim, the harder a stream is to maintain acc, stamina, and combo on. Streams that are stacks or straight lines are massively MASSIVELY easier than spaced streams that require more aim. The harder and more curvy a stream is due to mapping and spacing, the harder it is to concentrate on the streaming itself because more of your focus is on the aim.B1rd wrote:
No it's not.
Depends. The opposite could be true. There are times that you'd be more at ease at decent spaced streaming than w/o or too little.Khelly wrote:
Streams that are stacks or straight lines are massively MASSIVELY easier than spaced streams that require more aim. The harder and more curvy a stream is due to mapping and spacing, the harder it is to concentrate on the streaming itself because more of your focus is on the aim.
Assuming the bpm is the exact same, no. I don't think so.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
Depends. The opposite could be true. There are times that you'd be more at ease at decent spaced streaming than w/o or too little.Khelly wrote:
Streams that are stacks or straight lines are massively MASSIVELY easier than spaced streams that require more aim. The harder and more curvy a stream is due to mapping and spacing, the harder it is to concentrate on the streaming itself because more of your focus is on the aim.
HK_ wrote:
Then pls explain why is there so many people who can deathstream 222 bpm but there are so few FCs on FD4D?
wow I must have pretty god tier aim then if streams are so hard to aim.Khelly wrote:
B1rd, I hate you, but I know you're not completely retarded. Do you actually have experience playing streams? Like, actual fucking experience on harder streams? The harder a stream is to aim, the harder a stream is to maintain acc, stamina, and combo on. Streams that are stacks or straight lines are massively MASSIVELY easier than spaced streams that require more aim. The harder and more curvy a stream is due to mapping and spacing, the harder it is to concentrate on the streaming itself because more of your focus is on the aim.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/648081B1rd wrote:
Spaced streams are not hard to aim, all you need to do is move your hand at a constant rate to hit a spaced stream. If a stream is more spaced, your cursor is only over each circle for a very small amount of time so if you're not streaming absolutely perfectly, you will miss.
You missed 13 times.B1rd wrote:
HK_ wrote:
Then pls explain why is there so many people who can deathstream 222 bpm but there are so few FCs on FD4D?wow I must have pretty god tier aim then if streams are so hard to aim.Khelly wrote:
B1rd, I hate you, but I know you're not completely retarded. Do you actually have experience playing streams? Like, actual fucking experience on harder streams? The harder a stream is to aim, the harder a stream is to maintain acc, stamina, and combo on. Streams that are stacks or straight lines are massively MASSIVELY easier than spaced streams that require more aim. The harder and more curvy a stream is due to mapping and spacing, the harder it is to concentrate on the streaming itself because more of your focus is on the aim.
Streams are about tapping and hand synchronisation. Spaced streams are not hard to aim, all you need to do is move your hand at a constant rate to hit a spaced stream. If a stream is more spaced, your cursor is only over each circle for a very small amount of time so if you're not streaming absolutely perfectly, you will miss.
Streams still require aim in some form depending on how spaced they are, but the primary component is tapping. Streaming can be on stacks which require no aim whatsoever.
And yes Khelly, I have plenty of experience on hard streams, and I can aim them fine but I always fail because of finger control. That's why I know this.
For other people's benefits.HK_ wrote:
Khelly why are you even bothering?
Try editing every streams in every map that has spaced streams into stacks but don't touch the jumps ofc. Will you at least get the exact same performance? You could do it at some maps of course but you're expected to do way better since there's zero stream aim. Maps like these https://osu.ppy.sh/b/668662 but with a higher bpm would be a good start.Khelly wrote:
Assuming the bpm is the exact same, no. I don't think so.
But then that just turns the stacks into a different form of jumps rather than a smooth flow of streams. It's better to change every stream into a straight line with minimal spacing.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
Try editing every streams in every map that has spaced streams into stacks but don't touch the jumps ofc. Will you at least get the exact same performance? You could do it at some maps of course but you're expected to do way better since there's zero stream aim. Maps like these https://osu.ppy.sh/b/668662 but with a higher bpm would be a good start.Khelly wrote:
Assuming the bpm is the exact same, no. I don't think so.
Then just assume some magical mapper can convert every jump to complement every stream edit you've made to make it flow well.Khelly wrote:
But then that just turns the stacks into a different form of jumps rather than a smooth flow of streams. It's better to change every stream into a straight line with minimal spacing.
I think you can just follow the general shape of the spaced streams originally. Everything just needs to be nice and smooth.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
Then just assume some magical mapper can convert every jump to complement every stream edit you've made to make it flow well.Khelly wrote:
But then that just turns the stacks into a different form of jumps rather than a smooth flow of streams. It's better to change every stream into a straight line with minimal spacing.