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Tarpey - Close Call

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xChorse
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016 m. gegužės 31 d. at 19:10:18

Artist: Tarpey
Title: Close Call
Tags: Drum and Bass DnB D&B Diversity Promotions Glitch Hop Spork Lover Strategas Squirrel
BPM: 172
Filesize: 6610kb
Play Time: 02:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab Advanced (2,32 stars, 266 notes)
  2. Hard (3,49 stars, 395 notes)
  3. Hyper (3,87 stars, 456 notes)
  4. Near Miss (5,36 stars, 523 notes)
  5. Normal (1,94 stars, 192 notes)
  6. Squirrel's Easy (1,46 stars, 130 notes)
  7. Strategas' Insane (4,68 stars, 540 notes)
Download: Tarpey - Close Call
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy by Squirrel
Normal by me
Advanced Collab by me and Spork Lover
Hard by me
Hyper by me
Insane GD by Strategas
Near Miss by me

Tarpey - Close Call on Soundcloud!

BG Source


#1 Kibbleru
Minakami Yuki
#2 Kibbleru
Self-Pop
#1 Minakami Yuki
ailv
IRC LOG
2016-01-15 17:51 ailv: ah
2016-01-15 17:51 ailv: probaly should have pmd you
2016-01-15 17:51 xChorse: yeah
2016-01-15 17:51 ailv: http://puu.sh/mwpEX/3047dc4aa6.png
2016-01-15 17:52 ailv: 01:13:335 (5,6) -
2016-01-15 17:52 xChorse: ok
2016-01-15 17:52 ailv: 01:13:684 (7,8) -
2016-01-15 17:52 ailv: ah
2016-01-15 17:52 ailv: basically what im trying to say is that
2016-01-15 17:52 ailv: musically the jumps aren't supported
2016-01-15 17:52 ailv: and everything is overlly geometric
2016-01-15 17:53 ailv: 01:28:335 (2,3,4,5) - and chosen stack leniency makes it hard to read 01:28:335 (2,3,4,5) -
2016-01-15 17:53 ailv: although that's probaly because i can't read low ar
2016-01-15 17:53 xChorse: I guess it's nice to watch but not really great to play lol
2016-01-15 17:53 ailv: 01:29:207 (7,1,2,3,4) - is there a reason for things like this
2016-01-15 17:53 ailv: spacing is too large
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: and 01:29:731 (3,4) - then it changes to really small spacing like
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: 01:29:731 (3,4) -
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: 01:30:777 (1,2,3,4) - and then you've had jumps the whole time
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: but 01:30:777 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: isn't emphasized with jumps?
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: i guess im trying to say is that
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: although the idea is good
2016-01-15 17:54 ailv: and reminisxent of asphyxia's dnb maps
2016-01-15 17:55 ailv: this is inconsistent, lacks flow, and is overly geometric
2016-01-15 17:55 ailv: i'd work on flow firstly
2016-01-15 17:55 ailv: since most of your problems should go away once you make it flow
2016-01-15 17:55 ailv: and then check spacing transions
2016-01-15 17:55 xChorse: okay
2016-01-15 17:55 ailv: 01:38:103 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this section being linear like this is bad flow
2016-01-15 17:55 ailv: and seems to be mostly done for geometric reasoning
2016-01-15 17:56 ailv: and his inconsistent spacing
2016-01-15 17:56 xChorse: I raised the triple
2016-01-15 17:56 xChorse: and changed the ds
2016-01-15 17:56 ailv: 01:46:126 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2016-01-15 17:56 ailv: this is how to do it well however
2016-01-15 17:56 ailv: although i'd fiddle with spacing a little here
2016-01-15 17:56 ailv: and make it look more pretty
2016-01-15 17:56 xChorse: ok
2016-01-15 17:57 ailv: 00:23:452 (1,1,1) - no need for this nc
2016-01-15 17:57 ailv: just nc one before break
2016-01-15 17:57 xChorse: I'm going now, thanks for looking at it

Please call me back whenever you've had a chance to look it again, and change the patterns! Good luck!
KappaPraise
hi \o, mod is here
The first, i dont think that hitsounds cry of crowd fits here, you should remove it.

Light Insane
00:16:998 (2,3) - fix spacing here please
00:23:800 - what about instead of breaks make some creative long sliders?
00:51:009 (3) - move this slider to x:390 y:204, but this to x:312 y:257 and other notes under them reciprocally
01:34:266 (3) - may be move start of this slider under end of this 01:33:568 (1)?
01:39:149 (1,3) - dont like this overlap
01:58:684 (1) - move this slider to x:236 y:267, but this 01:58:684 (1) - to x:309 y:211

Insane
jumps look like in highscore))
00:17:173 (2,3,4,5,6) - hard to read this spacing imo
00:23:800 - same as prev diff, i reccomend make here sliders or may be spinners
00:48:219 (5) - may be NC here? I just hear this part and other like 1-2-3-4...1-2-3-4...1-2-3-4, sounds same and and may be you should distinguish them
Topic Starter
xChorse

WISPG_G wrote:

hi \o, mod is here
The first, i dont think that hitsounds cry of crowd fits here, you should remove it. Already removed :p

Light Insane
00:16:998 (2,3) - fix spacing here please Done!
00:23:800 - what about instead of breaks make some creative long sliders? I feel like it fits, I'll map this if more people say the same however
00:51:009 (3) - move this slider to x:390 y:204, but this to x:312 y:257 and other notes under them reciprocally Done?
01:34:266 (3) - may be move start of this slider under end of this 01:33:568 (1)? Better flow like this
01:39:149 (1,3) - dont like this overlap Changed!
01:58:684 (1) - move this slider to x:236 y:267, but this 01:58:684 (1) - to x:309 y:211 Changed in a different way, but with the same effect.

Insane
jumps look like in highscore)) Which is a good thing I suppose :D
00:17:173 (2,3,4,5,6) - hard to read this spacing imo Feels fine to me, will change if more people point it out
00:23:800 - same as prev diff, i reccomend make here sliders or may be spinners ^
00:48:219 (5) - may be NC here? I just hear this part and other like 1-2-3-4...1-2-3-4...1-2-3-4, sounds same and and may be you should distinguish them Seems pretty unnecessary, but will change if more people point it out as well!

Thank you!
Spork Lover

Hello! M4M :3



Color coding
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Red = Unrankable if unchanged
Black = Normal suggestion
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Pink = Comment

Light Insane

Light Insane

00:27:986 - This and the other three similar sections should have lowered hitsound volume even further, they feel too loud.
00:45:864 till 01:07:928 (6) - 80% is loud when it isn't the peak. The normal hitsound could use lowered volume (As in the main beat.)
01:08:452 (1) - Absolutely amazing hitsounds in kiai, lots of props for that!
01:29:033 (4,1,2) - I think you should rework this pattern a little bit, feels a bit unpolished imo :)
01:46:824 (3) - Move this slider to x:164 y:64, cool symmetrical pattern if you wanna go for that 8-)
01:47:521 (1,4) - Ctrl+G will make a fun X-pattern :)
02:16:126 (3,4) - Rotate from Selection centre by 10 degrees
02:17:522 (3,4) - ^^^^

Near Miss

Extra

Amp the OD up to 8.5 or 9, it's an Extra diff. :)
00:14:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Really awkward pattern to play, you should hardly consider changing that, since it don't flow with the two other jump patterns just after.
00:23:452 (1,2,3) - Mark those three notes and place nr. 1 on x:216 y:144 for a triangle pattern with the previous two notes (00:23:103 (3,4) - ) Here's a picture of it: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4426186
00:27:986 (1) - Same hitsound problem as in Light Insane. (All 4 sections)
01:06:707 (7,8) - Small jump suggestion on those two notes: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4426214
01:07:056 (1) - Move to x:424 y:72, so the spacing fits the 6-note section from the song.
02:03:393 (3) - There's a red dot on the slider. Remove that. x)
02:20:312 (4,5) - Turn 5 degrees from selection centre :)

Really liked the diffs, and will most likely make a normal difficulty on this mapset. I'll poke you when I'm done with it. Make sure to leave feedback on the mod so I can improve ;) Thanks!
Topic Starter
xChorse

Spork Lover wrote:

Hello! M4M :3



Color coding
Importance:
Red = Unrankable if unchanged
Black = Normal suggestion
Blue = Strong suggestion
Pink = Comment

Light Insane

Light Insane

00:27:986 - This and the other three similar sections should have lowered hitsound volume even further, they feel too loud. Changed hitsound!
00:45:864 till 01:07:928 (6) - 80% is loud when it isn't the peak. The normal hitsound could use lowered volume (As in the main beat.) Changed hitsound!
01:08:452 (1) - Absolutely amazing hitsounds in kiai, lots of props for that! Thank you! :)
01:29:033 (4,1,2) - I think you should rework this pattern a little bit, feels a bit unpolished imo :) Changed!
01:46:824 (3) - Move this slider to x:164 y:64, cool symmetrical pattern if you wanna go for that 8-) Done!
01:47:521 (1,4) - Ctrl+G will make a fun X-pattern :) Changed in a different way, but has the same effect :D
02:16:126 (3,4) - Rotate from Selection centre by 10 degrees Done!
02:17:522 (3,4) - ^^^^ Done!

Near Miss

Extra

Amp the OD up to 8.5 or 9, it's an Extra diff. :) Changed to OD9!
00:14:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Really awkward pattern to play, you should hardly consider changing that, since it don't flow with the two other jump patterns just after. Changed!
00:23:452 (1,2,3) - Mark those three notes and place nr. 1 on x:216 y:144 for a triangle pattern with the previous two notes (00:23:103 (3,4) - ) Here's a picture of it: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4426186 Done!
00:27:986 (1) - Same hitsound problem as in Light Insane. (All 4 sections) Changed hitsound!
01:06:707 (7,8) - Small jump suggestion on those two notes: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4426214 Changed it a little bit, but in a different way
01:07:056 (1) - Move to x:424 y:72, so the spacing fits the 6-note section from the song. Done!
02:03:393 (3) - There's a red dot on the slider. Remove that. x) Done!
02:20:312 (4,5) - Turn 5 degrees from selection centre :) Done for now, though I might revert this if it causes awkward misses, because this is the end of the song


Really liked the diffs, and will most likely make a normal difficulty on this mapset. I'll poke you when I'm done with it. Make sure to leave feedback on the mod so I can improve ;) Thanks!

Thank you! I'll be waiting for the Normal GD :D
bejewelled
Hello! From my Mod queue:

My colors are in my signature.
I will do 5 min of modding (top 2 diffs), b/c You only have 5 SP. (Check my conditions)
This took me a LONG time, so I am just doing Near Miss.

Near Miss
Bump the HP up to a flat 7, and AR up to 9.6-9.8. (At high AR, the 0.1 makes a significant difference.)

00:02:521 (4,1) - BE CAREFUL when you directly stack notes. It is okay so far, but it can make a map really hard to read.
00:08:800 (2,3,4) - 3 and 4 have awkward distance spacing, imo. It also isn't even with 2. But this is your choice.
00:12:289 (4,1) - Move 4 farther away, so that the player isn't stuck holding their cursor at the same point.
00:15:080 (7,1,2) - I don't recommend this. I would put a note in-between 1 and 2, and space them out like you have done before.
00:17:173 (2,3,4,5,6) - Also a bit confusing to read.
00:23:452 (1,2,3) - Pointless to not follow the same distance snap as previously.Also, these aren't even evenly spaced.
00:47:521 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Distance snappppppp!!!!!!! When doing jumps like this, minor differences are okay, but this is not!
00:52:754 (4) - Move this down.
01:00:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can kind of see what you were going for, but the distance spacing is off again.
01:04:266 (1) - Kind of just an awkward note here, while the others fit in. Maybe make part of the slider?
01:06:532 (6,7,8) - Again, awkward notes. It seems to me that you just put them in b/c you ran out of room.
01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Distance snap. The dist. from 5-6 is really messed up compared to the others.
01:12:638 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very difficult to read.
01:23:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ??? These are completely random and have no purpose (maybe a bit redundant). If in doubt, use the polygon circle option.
01:28:335 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - As a general suggestion, don't place notes like this. The note pattern ends up becoming SO random and it makes me wonder why they are there, simply due to the random distance spacing. Go to compose and click polygon circles; maybe make some squares or an octagon, then switch up the notes to make large jumps. This would make it less random.
01:35:312 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This could work if you moved 3 up and 6 down, so they were touching diagonally.
01:36:707 (3,4) - Move away from 1 and 2.
01:47:173 (7,8) - Move away from 5 and 6.
02:09:498 (6,7) - Too confusing. I think they are 1/4 notes b/c of the short distance spacing.
02:20:312 (4,5) - Move away from 3 and 4.

Okay, good notes, but meh placement. You need to use distance snap more often.
Topic Starter
xChorse

Swegmec wrote:

Hello! From my Mod queue:

My colors are in my signature.
I will do 5 min of modding (top 2 diffs), b/c You only have 5 SP. (Check my conditions)
This took me a LONG time, so I am just doing Near Miss.

Near Miss
Bump the HP up to a flat 7, and AR up to 9.6-9.8. (At high AR, the 0.1 makes a significant difference.) Done! HP-7 AR-9,6

00:02:521 (4,1) - BE CAREFUL when you directly stack notes. It is okay so far, but it can make a map really hard to read. I wanted the map to be a bit of a challenge to read, as I didn't want to just map pp jumps that are super easy to read
00:08:800 (2,3,4) - 3 and 4 have awkward distance spacing, imo. It also isn't even with 2. But this is your choice. Circular flow, seems fine to me
00:12:289 (4,1) - Move 4 farther away, so that the player isn't stuck holding their cursor at the same point. Done!
00:15:080 (7,1,2) - I don't recommend this. I would put a note in-between 1 and 2, and space them out like you have done before. Seems fine to me, but will change if more people point this out
00:17:173 (2,3,4,5,6) - Also a bit confusing to read. Which is what I was aiming for :p
00:23:452 (1,2,3) - Pointless to not follow the same distance snap as previously.Also, these aren't even evenly spaced. Fits the music imo, will change if more people point it out.
00:47:521 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Distance snappppppp!!!!!!! When doing jumps like this, minor differences are okay, but this is not! This flows really well imo, will change if more people point it out.
00:52:754 (4) - Move this down. Done!
01:00:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can kind of see what you were going for, but the distance spacing is off again. It has even spacing
01:04:266 (1) - Kind of just an awkward note here, while the others fit in. Maybe make part of the slider? Done!
01:06:532 (6,7,8) - Again, awkward notes. It seems to me that you just put them in b/c you ran out of room. Fits the music imo, will change if more people point it out
01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Distance snap. The dist. from 5-6 is really messed up compared to the others. Fixed
01:12:638 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very difficult to read. Seems fine to me
01:23:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ??? These are completely random and have no purpose (maybe a bit redundant). If in doubt, use the polygon circle option. I don't know, this feels like one of the better parts of the map to me
01:28:335 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - As a general suggestion, don't place notes like this. The note pattern ends up becoming SO random and it makes me wonder why they are there, simply due to the random distance spacing. Go to compose and click polygon circles; maybe make some squares or an octagon, then switch up the notes to make large jumps. This would make it less random. 01:28:335 (2,3,4,5) - are an equal distance away from 01:27:986 (1) - which makes it easier to follow, 01:29:382 (1) - follows the tail of 01:27:986 (1) - to look more aesthetically pleasing. Nothing here was random tbh.
01:35:312 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This could work if you moved 3 up and 6 down, so they were touching diagonally. Done!
01:36:707 (3,4) - Move away from 1 and 2. It often results in awkward notelocks while playing, so I don't want to make add patterns like that
01:47:173 (7,8) - Move away from 5 and 6. ^
02:09:498 (6,7) - Too confusing. I think they are 1/4 notes b/c of the short distance spacing. Fits the music imo
02:20:312 (4,5) - Move away from 3 and 4. As I said, it's to avoid awkward notelocks

Okay, good notes, but meh placement. You need to use distance snap more often. Distance snap is used throughout the entire map except for the first note of every jump so idk

Thanks for the mod :) , though it conflicts with my style for this map so I didn't add some of the things you said :|
-Makishima S-
no kds, just few comments becouse i like song:

** Near Miss **

AR 9.6 is way too high, note density is too low same as bpm of map to set this range. I strongly recommend to go for standard AR9 OD8 since it perfectly fit the song and map speed.

If i find some free time, i might shot a full length mod for it, just got this map recommended by a friend who also noticed that AR is way too high for nomod player around 20-10k rank.

Good luck sir.
Topic Starter
xChorse
welp just going to keep AR 9,4 because I like it the most, 9 makes some parts a bit awkward.
Prismetical
Heya! M4M ♥

Normal
00:04:266 (1) - I would rotate it like this:

00:55:893 (1) - too much reverse slider at that point
01:11:940 (1) - remove new combo
01:19:614 (1,2,3) - in one line:

01:35:661 (1) - remove NC
- why isn't the end mapped here, because at the Light Insane diff, it is mapped...

Hard
00:44:731 (1,4) - ugly overlay, stack?
- why isn't the end mapped here, because at the Light Insane diff, it is mapped...

Light Insane
00:27:986 (1,2,3) - pattern could look better, move (3) around
00:39:149 (1,4) - stack?
00:46:824 (2) - reverse slider is not visible, big problem
01:02:521 (4,3) - stack
01:16:300 (5) - NC?
01:19:266 (5) - looks better here imo:
01:42:289 (2) - straighten slider
- why is the end mapped here, but not at the lower diffs?

Best wishes!
Topic Starter
xChorse

Prismetical wrote:

Heya! M4M ♥

Normal
00:04:266 (1) - I would rotate it like this: The slider after it wouldn't look as good

00:55:893 (1) - too much reverse slider at that point Changed!
01:11:940 (1) - remove new combo Done!
01:19:614 (1,2,3) - in one line: Bended it instead

01:35:661 (1) - remove NC Done!
- why isn't the end mapped here, because at the Light Insane diff, it is mapped... I'll map it when I have more time ^^

Hard
00:44:731 (1,4) - ugly overlay, stack? Done!
- why isn't the end mapped here, because at the Light Insane diff, it is mapped... I'll map it when I have more time ^^

Light Insane
00:27:986 (1,2,3) - pattern could look better, move (3) around Flows pretty well, will change if more people point it out.
00:39:149 (1,4) - stack? Nope
00:46:824 (2) - reverse slider is not visible, big problem Changed!
01:02:521 (4,3) - stack Done!
01:16:300 (5) - NC? Done!
01:19:266 (5) - looks better here imo: Done!
01:42:289 (2) - straighten slider Nope
- why is the end mapped here, but not at the lower diffs? Lack of time :|

Best wishes!
Thanks!
Shiny Spoon
ill try my best!!

[Near Miss]

02:09:498 (6,7) - NC on the 6 to emphasize the jump

00:48:219 (5,6,7,8) - NC on 5 ^

01:46:824 (5,6,7,8) - NC on the 5 to emphasize the jump.

02:09:498 (6,7) - Instead of a NC on the slider you can add a NC on the 6 to emphasize that the jumps are less intense/slowed down.



To be honest....this is really all I can find...I had such a hard time finding things that are wrong. The map is pretty solid, I cant really give any input on anything below 5* for the other diffs
Topic Starter
xChorse

Shiny Spoon wrote:

ill try my best!!

[Near Miss]

02:09:498 (6,7) - NC on the 6 to emphasize the jump Done!

00:48:219 (5,6,7,8) - NC on 5 ^ Done!

01:46:824 (5,6,7,8) - NC on the 5 to emphasize the jump. Done!

02:09:498 (6,7) - Instead of a NC on the slider you can add a NC on the 6 to emphasize that the jumps are less intense/slowed down. Done!



To be honest....this is really all I can find...I had such a hard time finding things that are wrong. The map is pretty solid, I cant really give any input on anything below 5* for the other diffs
Thanks!
Wou_old_1
From my queue

[General]

  1. I don't know why you add an Widescreen Support
[Normal]

  1. I ask you. when you make a normal diff, you use the DS? if you use the DS, why this note 01:07:056 (1,1) - looks no far like DS say ?
  2. 00:01:475 (1,2,1,2) - Overlap like this to me it's okay, but if like this 00:08:452 (2,1) - please, fix this.. There must be no overlap like that
  3. 00:56:591 (2,2) - Not trying to blanket that?
  4. 01:12:638 (1,2,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - I think this note looks like is not suitable for normal diffs. Cuz, it looks difficult to play at normal diffs.
  5. 01:33:219 (1,1) - Stack looks sucks, Try don't stack that note
[Hard]

  1. 00:02:521 (4,2,3,1,2,5,1,3) - I don't know why you like to overlap like this. In my opinion, it's looks ugly
  2. 00:17:173 (2) - Try to stop at 00:17:347 - then make the end of this note 00:17:173 (2) - to a new slider then remove 00:17:696 (4) -
  3. 00:49:963 (5,2,4) - Overlap like this make it as invisible, so as to make the players look surprised
  4. 01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - When i play this, i get surprised. Cuz I thought the pile like that, as there are notes that are on the blue tick
Topic Starter
xChorse

Wou wrote:

From my queue

[General]

  1. I don't know why you add an Widescreen Support Disabled!
[Normal]

  1. I ask you. when you make a normal diff, you use the DS? if you use the DS, why this note 01:07:056 (1,1) - looks no far like DS say ? There's a big enough pause for the DS to be like this imo
  2. 00:01:475 (1,2,1,2) - Overlap like this to me it's okay, but if like this 00:08:452 (2,1) - please, fix this.. There must be no overlap like that Changed!
  3. 00:56:591 (2,2) - Not trying to blanket that? Blanketed!
  4. 01:12:638 (1,2,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,1,2) - I think this note looks like is not suitable for normal diffs. Cuz, it looks difficult to play at normal diffs. Don't know any other way to map parts like that, but those things are ok enough for a normal imo.
  5. 01:33:219 (1,1) - Stack looks sucks, Try don't stack that note Done!
[Hard]

  1. 00:02:521 (4,2,3,1,2,5,1,3) - I don't know why you like to overlap like this. In my opinion, it's looks ugly There's like a 3 second gap between the notes, I don't see how they could overlap
  2. 00:17:173 (2) - Try to stop at 00:17:347 - then make the end of this note 00:17:173 (2) - to a new slider then remove 00:17:696 (4) - Done?
  3. 00:49:963 (5,2,4) - Overlap like this make it as invisible, so as to make the players look surprised idk pretty easy to read imo
  4. 01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - When i play this, i get surprised. Cuz I thought the pile like that, as there are notes that are on the blue tick Eh, I really like this but I'll change it if more people point it out
Thank you!
Kagetsu
from #modreqs

[Near Miss]
  1. isn't ar 9,4 too high for a 172 bpm song? 9,3 it's fine imo.. your choice tho
  2. i would silence your sliderslide in the calm parts like here 00:50:312 - otherwise, you'll have to have sliders in the same parts (musically speaking) to make a constant rhythm with sliderslide xd
  3. 00:25:196 - - 00:29:382 - 00:34:963 - 00:40:545 - consider mapping these parts with slow long sliders with random and interesting shapes... it'll make your map more interesting
  4. 00:45:777 (1) - delete this NC or add NC here 00:45:080 (2) - (deleting is better)
  5. 00:49:614 (4) - NC maybe? for consistency
  6. 00:50:312 (1) - this feels kinda weird... because you were emphasising all those points previously
  7. 01:15:952 (3,4,5) - uhm... why is this spacing that high... it plays weird because you tend to stack the triplets... so normal spacing would be better imo
  8. 01:20:312 (4,5,6,7,8) - increasing distance in a linear way doesn't play good... it's awkward to play, i would recommend you a pattern like this
  9. 01:21:882 (4,5,6,7,1) - this is also a linear pattern... but i don't really have a suggestion to make so i'm just gonna mention it
  10. 01:26:417 (7) - move this slighly up to have equal DS... you tend to have the same distance in this kind of pattern of note-triplet-note (01:10:545 (4,5,6,7,8) - this one for example, so do this, for consistency)
  11. 01:26:591 (1,2) - ctrl + g maybe... to emphasize 01:26:591 (1) - also, it flows better xd
  12. 01:19:440 (6,1) - stacking those 2 notes doesn't make much sense... at least for me
  13. 01:25:021 (8,1) - spacing between this 2 feels extremely awkward... i think you should have a jump between these 2. a pattern like this might be better
  14. 01:29:033 (6,7) - this feels awkward because you're decreasing DS without any rhythm/music change, i would change to something like this
  15. 01:36:184 (7,1) - spacing should be higher imo, also it doesnt play that good because the flow suddenly breaks to downside
  16. 02:05:661 (1,4) - stack? you tend to do that... so that's why i'm pointing it xd
cool map/song i enjoyed playing it... have a star and good luck xd
Topic Starter
xChorse

Kagetsu wrote:

from #modreqs

[Near Miss]
  1. isn't ar 9,4 too high for a 172 bpm song? 9,3 it's fine imo.. your choice tho Will probably stay at 9,3 now
  2. i would silence your sliderslide in the calm parts like here 00:50:312 - otherwise, you'll have to have sliders in the same parts (musically speaking) to make a constant rhythm with sliderslide xd Added slilent sliderslide!
  3. 00:25:196 - - 00:29:382 - 00:34:963 - 00:40:545 - consider mapping these parts with slow long sliders with random and interesting shapes... it'll make your map more interesting This seemed like a good idea as I was mapping it, gonna map it if more people point it out
  4. 00:45:777 (1) - delete this NC or add NC here 00:45:080 (2) - (deleting is better) Done!
  5. 00:49:614 (4) - NC maybe? for consistency Done!
  6. 00:50:312 (1) - this feels kinda weird... because you were emphasising all those points previously Added emphasis!
  7. 01:15:952 (3,4,5) - uhm... why is this spacing that high... it plays weird because you tend to stack the triplets... so normal spacing would be better imo Done!
  8. 01:20:312 (4,5,6,7,8) - increasing distance in a linear way doesn't play good... it's awkward to play, i would recommend you a pattern like this Done!
  9. 01:21:882 (4,5,6,7,1) - this is also a linear pattern... but i don't really have a suggestion to make so i'm just gonna mention it Changed it but it's still linear :/
  10. 01:26:417 (7) - move this slighly up to have equal DS... you tend to have the same distance in this kind of pattern of note-triplet-note (01:10:545 (4,5,6,7,8) - this one for example, so do this, for consistency) It's stacked on 01:23:975 (2,1) - so idk
  11. 01:26:591 (1,2) - ctrl + g maybe... to emphasize 01:26:591 (1) - also, it flows better xd I think mine flows better
  12. 01:19:440 (6,1) - stacking those 2 notes doesn't make much sense... at least for me Changed!
  13. 01:25:021 (8,1) - spacing between this 2 feels extremely awkward... i think you should have a jump between these 2. a pattern like this might be better Did something different
  14. 01:29:033 (6,7) - this feels awkward because you're decreasing DS without any rhythm/music change, i would change to something like this Done!
  15. 01:36:184 (7,1) - spacing should be higher imo, also it doesnt play that good because the flow suddenly breaks to downside Done!
  16. 02:05:661 (1,4) - stack? you tend to do that... so that's why i'm pointing it xd oops done
cool map/song i enjoyed playing it... have a star and good luck xd
Thanks for the mod! :)
Deppyforce
i like short songs

[General]
00:01:475 - offset should be here lol

[Normal]
normal diff needs constant spacing. like 00:15:428 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - is 0.9x ds but the part before that is 1x ds, some part are even 0.8x ds, like the beginning of the map. remap lol

[Hard]
00:09:498 (5) - you should make the sliderhead more visible, this is actually hard to read for this diff. easiest way to fix would be changing stack latency until these are actually stacking
00:20:661 (4) - rotate this 90 degress anti clockwise flow better to me idk
00:45:952 - theres still sound here, should be mapped
01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the spacing here should be bigger instead of smaller than 01:05:661 (1,2,3,4,5)
01:18:219 (1,2,3) - same about stack
01:40:545 (5,2) - ^

[Near Miss]
00:15:080 (7) - should be slider imo to make it constant with 00:13:684 (5) -
you can map the part you put breaks with long sliders, the map will be more interesting that way
01:06:532 (6,7,8) - this anti jump dont fit imo lol, the ds should be increasing like the jumps before
01:19:614 (1) - strong, shoudnt be stacked
01:53:103 (1) - ^

yea gl
Topic Starter
xChorse

Deppyforce wrote:

i like short songs

[General]
00:01:475 - offset should be here lol changed

[Normal]
normal diff needs constant spacing. like 00:15:428 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - is 0.9x ds but the part before that is 1x ds, some part are even 0.8x ds, like the beginning of the map. remap lol Remapped

[Hard]
00:09:498 (5) - you should make the sliderhead more visible, this is actually hard to read for this diff. easiest way to fix would be changing stack latency until these are actually stacking Changed it a bit, might be more visible idk
00:20:661 (4) - rotate this 90 degress anti clockwise flow better to me idk Done!
00:45:952 - theres still sound here, should be mapped Done!
01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the spacing here should be bigger instead of smaller than 01:05:661 (1,2,3,4,5) Done!
01:18:219 (1,2,3) - same about stack Changed it a bit, might be more visible idk
01:40:545 (5,2) - ^ Changed it a bit, might be more visible idk

[Near Miss]
00:15:080 (7) - should be slider imo to make it constant with 00:13:684 (5) - Done!
you can map the part you put breaks with long sliders, the map will be more interesting that way Mapped
01:06:532 (6,7,8) - this anti jump dont fit imo lol, the ds should be increasing like the jumps before Changed
01:19:614 (1) - strong, shoudnt be stacked Done in previous mod
01:53:103 (1) - ^ seems fine imo

yea gl
Thankss
firedigger
SPOILER
15:08 firedigger: yo
15:09 firedigger: let's mod some of your maps
15:09 xChorse: Thanks
15:09 *firedigger is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/877625 Tarpey - Close Call [Near Miss]]
15:11 firedigger: 00:08:452 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so you have a pattern that requires actually playing the game here on quiet beats
15:11 firedigger: 00:11:242 (1,2,3,4) - but the on the real beats it's 1.5* pattern
15:11 firedigger: that's no good
15:12 xChorse: I don't really want to add extra difficulty on the earlier parts of the map
15:12 firedigger: right
15:12 firedigger: reduce it
15:12 firedigger: it can be considered overmapped in numerous places
15:13 firedigger: 00:14:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - WOW
15:13 firedigger: like that
15:13 xChorse: still feels easy compared to other 5,3* maps here
15:13 firedigger: feels inconsistent with the music
15:15 firedigger: 00:23:452 (1,2,3) - if you are deliberately making them close, I would recommend making a stack. Also, NC on slider might be a good idea
15:16 xChorse: NCed the slider
15:16 firedigger: 00:57:114 (6) - why is that a jump?
15:16 xChorse: don't want to stack them
15:16 firedigger: Just make sure people won't try to 1/4 the taps there
15:17 xChorse: If people actually folow the beat I don't think they'd even try streaming there
15:17 xChorse: and 00:57:114 (6,1) - is a jump while 00:56:940 (5,6) - follows the flow
15:18 firedigger: what is "follows the flow"?
15:18 firedigger: it's double spaced
15:18 firedigger: for no reason
15:19 xChorse: circular flow that expands or something idk
15:19 xChorse: feels fine to me
15:19 xChorse: same concept with 00:57:289 (1,2,3,4) -
15:19 firedigger: My evaluation methods on spacing are formal, get ready
15:20 firedigger: sliders have strong sound each, so the UNIFORMLY increasing spacing is OK
15:21 firedigger: 01:00:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (456) isn't consistent with shape of (123)
15:21 firedigger: same problem
15:22 firedigger: 01:04:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - hello, unexpectedely hard pattern
15:23 firedigger: 01:13:335 (5) - I would suggest NC here
15:24 firedigger: 01:17:870 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - no advanced pattern here, really? Fairly intensive music fragment
15:26 firedigger: 01:35:312 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - here as well
15:27 firedigger: you difficult pattern placement is not completely clear to me
15:27 firedigger: Try to reconsider all the places that you would define as "intense" in kiai
15:28 xChorse: Honestly I don't even see what's considered as difficult
15:28 xChorse: the only one that's pretty hard is 01:51:707 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
15:28 firedigger: ehm, well, as the very least look at average note spacing in the pattern
15:29 firedigger: well yeah, but mapping has more to it than 1 hard pattern in the end
15:29 firedigger: you should make sure the pattern difficulty complements the music intensity
15:33 xChorse: so do parts like 01:46:126 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - fit?
15:33 firedigger: that's exactly what makes sense
15:33 firedigger: there's a bit more intense, then even more intense
15:33 firedigger: and the pattern complements that
15:34 xChorse: ok gonna remap some parts to follow the same style
Topic Starter
xChorse

firedigger wrote:

SPOILER
15:08 firedigger: yo
15:09 firedigger: let's mod some of your maps
15:09 xChorse: Thanks
15:09 *firedigger is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/877625 Tarpey - Close Call [Near Miss]]
15:11 firedigger: 00:08:452 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so you have a pattern that requires actually playing the game here on quiet beats
15:11 firedigger: 00:11:242 (1,2,3,4) - but the on the real beats it's 1.5* pattern
15:11 firedigger: that's no good
15:12 xChorse: I don't really want to add extra difficulty on the earlier parts of the map
15:12 firedigger: right
15:12 firedigger: reduce it
15:12 firedigger: it can be considered overmapped in numerous places
15:13 firedigger: 00:14:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - WOW
15:13 firedigger: like that
15:13 xChorse: still feels easy compared to other 5,3* maps here
15:13 firedigger: feels inconsistent with the music
15:15 firedigger: 00:23:452 (1,2,3) - if you are deliberately making them close, I would recommend making a stack. Also, NC on slider might be a good idea
15:16 xChorse: NCed the slider
15:16 firedigger: 00:57:114 (6) - why is that a jump?
15:16 xChorse: don't want to stack them
15:16 firedigger: Just make sure people won't try to 1/4 the taps there
15:17 xChorse: If people actually folow the beat I don't think they'd even try streaming there
15:17 xChorse: and 00:57:114 (6,1) - is a jump while 00:56:940 (5,6) - follows the flow
15:18 firedigger: what is "follows the flow"?
15:18 firedigger: it's double spaced
15:18 firedigger: for no reason
15:19 xChorse: circular flow that expands or something idk
15:19 xChorse: feels fine to me
15:19 xChorse: same concept with 00:57:289 (1,2,3,4) -
15:19 firedigger: My evaluation methods on spacing are formal, get ready
15:20 firedigger: sliders have strong sound each, so the UNIFORMLY increasing spacing is OK
15:21 firedigger: 01:00:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (456) isn't consistent with shape of (123)
15:21 firedigger: same problem
15:22 firedigger: 01:04:266 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - hello, unexpectedely hard pattern
15:23 firedigger: 01:13:335 (5) - I would suggest NC here
15:24 firedigger: 01:17:870 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - no advanced pattern here, really? Fairly intensive music fragment
15:26 firedigger: 01:35:312 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - here as well
15:27 firedigger: you difficult pattern placement is not completely clear to me
15:27 firedigger: Try to reconsider all the places that you would define as "intense" in kiai
15:28 xChorse: Honestly I don't even see what's considered as difficult
15:28 xChorse: the only one that's pretty hard is 01:51:707 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
15:28 firedigger: ehm, well, as the very least look at average note spacing in the pattern
15:29 firedigger: well yeah, but mapping has more to it than 1 hard pattern in the end
15:29 firedigger: you should make sure the pattern difficulty complements the music intensity
15:33 xChorse: so do parts like 01:46:126 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - fit?
15:33 firedigger: that's exactly what makes sense
15:33 firedigger: there's a bit more intense, then even more intense
15:33 firedigger: and the pattern complements that
15:34 xChorse: ok gonna remap some parts to follow the same style

Remapped some parts which were pointed out, and changed spacing for the rest. Thanks for the mod!
Chibi Maruko
Hi. From my queue

What the heck 4 days silenced

Light Insane
  1. 00:34:265 (4) - Blanket can be improved. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4511742 this is nice
  2. 00:46:475 (1) - Why new combo is here? This are no reason to make new combo. Please delete NC
  3. 01:23:102 (3) - Add triple here coz sound rhythm triple is here
  4. 01:39:149 (6) - NC here
  5. 02:13:509 (4,5) - Why is this random spacing. Please use recommend DS

Near Miss
  1. 00:23:451 (1,2,1) - This part kinda look bad. Maybe stack is good
  2. 00:37:754 (1) - Maybe sound small are sound stream twice. U should add slider twice 1/4 or 1/6 or idk something
  3. 00:40:544 (3) - NC here
  4. 01:10:719 (5,6,7) - U should remove triple this coz no rhythm triple is here and 01:10:544 (4) Should have rhythm triple
  5. 01:16:387 (4,5) - In my opnion, stack is fine but already make decisions
  6. 01:27:550 (5,6) - This too
  7. 02:09:498 (1,2,1) - Like first comment

Nice song, dude! Take my star!
Ok, gl with ur map
sorry /me run away
Lumin
NM from queue
I won't mod normal

Hard
Flow feels pretty bad atleast for me..
00:01:475 (1) - I'd do smaller spacing between notes in this part (1x-1.2x), because it is going sliderpath and pace speeds up at jumps and slows at sliders
00:03:568 (3) - Add whistle/finish/clap to sliderend
00:09:324 (4) - Same to this circle^
00:14:731 (3) - sliderend^
00:20:312 (3) - end^
00:48:219 (4) - sliderend^
00:53:800 (4) - ^
00:59:382 (4) - ^
01:05:138 (4) - circle^
00:07:056 (1,2) - I'd copypaste these
00:21:359 (1,2) - ^
00:12:638 (1) - section starting here, every drum bass hits should have it's own sound
00:14:207 (1) - move this to right a bit
00:23:452 (4) - I'd put circle here and start slider as next red spike which goes to 00:23:800 (1) -
00:44:730 (1) - But claps to last two repeat hits 00:45:864 and 00:45:951
00:46:126 (1,2,3,4,5) - This with 1.1x slider velocity
00:47:521 (1) - 0.9x or 1x slider velocity and less spacing
00:51:707 (1,2,3,4) - same again
and all of that section
01:14:992 (5) - take this off, no sound and confusing
01:26:155 (5) - ^
01:20:574 (6) - ^
01:15:952 (2,3) - Put that 3 better to 2 sliderend
01:56:940 (5) - Less curvy
02:03:917 (5,1) - better blanket

Light Insane
00:03:568 (3) - Same here about these sounds as in Hard
00:08:103 (6) - raise this
00:33:917 (3,4) - copypaste
00:39:847 (4) - I'd make this straight one
00:45:777 (4) - Same about this sounding as in Hard
And same about slider velocities
00:46:475 (1,2) - This repslider - circle doesn't fit in music, I'd slider-slider
01:26:155 (5) - Same about these as in Hard
01:30:079 (5) - NC?
01:39:149 (6) - NC
01:48:045 (4,5) - Huge sudden spacing
01:08:452 (1) - More slider velocity here

Near Miss
Dunno about OD 9
Overall you use pretty poorly different slidervelocities, could be used more and better than some 0.75x at the start of the song and rest of the song is 1x
Same thing about sounds slider velocities etc than in other diffs
00:30:777 (2,3) - Avoidable overlap
01:06:358 (5) - NC
01:30:080 (5) - NC
01:31:300 (4,1) - stack
01:32:870 (4,5,6,1) - Overlap

Hope this helps, Good luck!
Topic Starter
xChorse

Lumin wrote:

NM from queue
I won't mod normal

Hard
Flow feels pretty bad atleast for me.. Don't really know much about flow below 4* difficulties
00:01:475 (1) - I'd do smaller spacing between notes in this part (1x-1.2x), because it is going sliderpath and pace speeds up at jumps and slows at sliders Made it 1.3x
00:03:568 (3) - Add whistle/finish/clap to sliderend Only adding hitsounds to specific parts, don't want to overdo them
00:09:324 (4) - Same to this circle^ ^
00:14:731 (3) - sliderend^ Added
00:20:312 (3) - end^ Added
00:48:219 (4) - sliderend^ Nah
00:53:800 (4) - ^ ^
00:59:382 (4) - ^ ^
01:05:138 (4) - circle^ ^
00:07:056 (1,2) - I'd copypaste these They are
00:21:359 (1,2) - ^ ^
00:12:638 (1) - section starting here, every drum bass hits should have it's own sound They do?
00:14:207 (1) - move this to right a bit Done!
00:23:452 (4) - I'd put circle here and start slider as next red spike which goes to 00:23:800 (1) - I want to put emphasis on 00:23:800 (1) -
00:44:730 (1) - But claps to last two repeat hits 00:45:864 and 00:45:951 Don't want to overuse hitsounds as hold sliders making too many sounds can feel awkward/confusing
00:46:126 (1,2,3,4,5) - This with 1.1x slider velocity I think consistent SV fits a hard diff more than changing ones
00:47:521 (1) - 0.9x or 1x slider velocity and less spacing ^
00:51:707 (1,2,3,4) - same again
and all of that section ^
01:14:992 (5) - take this off, no sound and confusing Done!
01:26:155 (5) - ^ Done!
01:20:574 (6) - ^ Done!
01:15:952 (2,3) - Put that 3 better to 2 sliderend Done!
01:56:940 (5) - Less curvy Done!
02:03:917 (5,1) - better blanketDone!

Light Insane
00:03:568 (3) - Same here about these sounds as in Hard Don't want to overuse hitsounds
00:08:103 (6) - raise this Done!
00:33:917 (3,4) - copypaste Done!
00:39:847 (4) - I'd make this straight one Better flow
00:45:777 (4) - Same about this sounding as in Hard Don't want to overuse
And same about slider velocities IMO it's better when it's consistent
00:46:475 (1,2) - This repslider - circle doesn't fit in music, I'd slider-slider Done, remapped this part again, not sure if it's good though
01:26:155 (5) - Same about these as in Hard I feel that they fit but done
01:30:079 (5) - NC? Done!
01:39:149 (6) - NC Done!
01:48:045 (4,5) - Huge sudden spacing Reduced slightly so it still stacks
01:08:452 (1) - More slider velocity hereNah

Near Miss
Dunno about OD 9 Making it either 8.5 or 8.7 now and I'll see which one people like more
Overall you use pretty poorly different slidervelocities, could be used more and better than some 0.75x at the start of the song and rest of the song is 1x
Same thing about sounds slider velocities etc than in other diffs
00:30:777 (2,3) - Avoidable overlap Made a blanket so it looks prettier
01:06:358 (5) - NC Done!
01:30:080 (5) - NC Done!
01:31:300 (4,1) - stack
01:32:870 (4,5,6,1) - Overlap Changed!

Hope this helps, Good luck!
Thanks!
Topic Starter
xChorse

Chibi Maruko wrote:

Hi. From my queue

What the heck 4 days silenced idk lol

Light Insane
  1. 00:34:265 (4) - Blanket can be improved. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4511742 this is nice Done!
  2. 00:46:475 (1) - Why new combo is here? This are no reason to make new combo. Please delete NC White tick, will remove if more people point it out
  3. 01:23:102 (3) - Add triple here coz sound rhythm triple is here I don't think it fits
  4. 01:39:149 (6) - NC here Done!
  5. 02:13:509 (4,5) - Why is this random spacing. Please use recommend DS Done, Idk how this one even happened

Near Miss
  1. 00:23:451 (1,2,1) - This part kinda look bad. Maybe stack is good Adds some reading difficulty I guess, but I really like these parts. I'll change them if more people point them out.
  2. 00:37:754 (1) - Maybe sound small are sound stream twice. U should add slider twice 1/4 or 1/6 or idk something Don't want to overmap, but I'll consider this
  3. 00:40:544 (3) - NC here Done!
  4. 01:10:719 (5,6,7) - U should remove triple this coz no rhythm triple is here and 01:10:544 (4) Should have rhythm triple Follows the music
  5. 01:16:387 (4,5) - In my opnion, stack is fine but already make decisions Looks fine to me
  6. 01:27:550 (5,6) - This too Looks fine to me
  7. 02:09:498 (1,2,1) - Like first comment Will change if more people point it out.

Nice song, dude! Take my star! Thanks :D
Ok, gl with ur map
sorry /me run away
Thank you for the mod and the star :)
SnowNiNo_
From my queue

1pc test play (FC \>W</
[Near Miss]
00:12:289 (4,1) - you can just stick this together
00:23:452 (1,2) - this is a really awkward spacing, since 00:23:103 (3,4) - and 00:23:452 (1,2) - are both got the same beats, but 00:23:452 (1,2) - change to small DS suddenly, these really will confused player, i suggest to stick 00:23:452 (1,2) - together like 00:40:195 (1,2,1) - or map the same spacing like 00:23:103 (3,4) -
01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as above, and you got 01:07:928 (6) - in wrong space, also 01:08:452 (1) -
01:30:777 (1,2,3,4) - same above
02:09:498 (1,2) - same above
00:36:358 (3,4) - avoid this overlap, you can just change 00:37:056 (4) - to ↑ or ↗
00:45:428 (1) - NC off and 00:45:777 (2) - NC
00:53:102 (1,2) - stick with 00:52:056 (2) -
00:59:033 (3,6) - avoid overlap
01:14:905 (4,5,6) - stick with 01:14:033 (1) -
01:20:486 (5,6,7,3) - avoid overlap
01:32:173 (1) - stick to 01:31:300 (4) - ( if you arent changing this part
01:37:754 (1,3) - avoid overlap

test play
[Light Insane]
00:02:521 (5,2) - avoid overlap
00:08:103 (6,2) - ^
00:39:149 (1,4) - ^
01:11:242 (1,3) - ^
01:33:568 (1,3) - ^
01:33:393 (7,1) - why dont make DS the same
01:48:045 (4,5,6,7) - when i play DT im just wondering why the DS is not the same as 01:47:521 (1,2,3,4) - , make me little hard to play
nothing much can find in this diff

the overlap problem doesnt really effect playing the map, but your map will be cleaner if you fix these overlap
and i think Light Insane is better then Near Miss imo OWO
GL~
Topic Starter
xChorse

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

From my queue

1pc test play (FC \>W</ whoa nice!
[Near Miss]
00:12:289 (4,1) - you can just stick this together Better flow as a previous mod suggested
00:23:452 (1,2) - this is a really awkward spacing, since 00:23:103 (3,4) - and 00:23:452 (1,2) - are both got the same beats, but 00:23:452 (1,2) - change to small DS suddenly, these really will confused player, i suggest to stick 00:23:452 (1,2) - together like 00:40:195 (1,2,1) - or map the same spacing like 00:23:103 (3,4) - Changed
01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as above, and you got 01:07:928 (6) - in wrong space, also 01:08:452 (1) - Fixed
01:30:777 (1,2,3,4) - same above I really like these, and I think that they aren't unrankable so I'm trying my best to keep them in
02:09:498 (1,2) - same above ^
00:36:358 (3,4) - avoid this overlap, you can just change 00:37:056 (4) - to ↑ or ↗ Changed
00:45:428 (1) - NC off and 00:45:777 (2) - NC Done!
00:53:102 (1,2) - stick with 00:52:056 (2) - It's stacked but looks weird because of the stack leniency or something
00:59:033 (3,6) - avoid overlap Looks nice and flows pretty well
01:14:905 (4,5,6) - stick with 01:14:033 (1) - It's stacked but looks weird because of the stack leniency or something
01:20:486 (5,6,7,3) - avoid overlap Done!
01:32:173 (1) - stick to 01:31:30 0 (4) - ( if you arent changing this part Oops done
01:37:754 (1,3) - avoid overlap Looks nice and flows pretty well

test play
[Light Insane]
00:02:521 (5,2) - avoid overlap
00:08:103 (6,2) - ^
00:39:149 (1,4) - ^
01:11:242 (1,3) - ^
01:33:568 (1,3) - ^ All of these are intended for better flow and looks
01:33:393 (7,1) - why dont make DS the same Jump as 01:34:266 (3) - is a pretty strong note
01:48:045 (4,5,6,7) - when i play DT im just wondering why the DS is not the same as 01:47:521 (1,2,3,4) - , make me little hard to play
nothing much can find in this diff Fixed

the overlap problem doesnt really effect playing the map, but your map will be cleaner if you fix these overlap
and i think Light Insane is better then Near Miss imo OWO Overall I agree as Light Insane has smoother flow as Near Miss is my highest star map that I've made
GL~
Thank you~
Exa
15:47 Exa: Yo o/
15:49 xChorse: Hey
15:50 Exa: Hi hi! Wanna IRC on your map?
15:50 xChorse: Sure :D
15:51 *Exa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/877625 Tarpey - Close Call [Near Miss]]
15:51 Exa: 00:06:707 (5,6,1) - Mind spacing these as much as you've spaced 00:05:661 (1,2,3) - these?
15:52 Exa: For consistency and because it's weird to space out objects on red ticks
15:52 xChorse: there's a triangle between 00:06:359 (4,5,6) - but I might try
15:52 Exa: 00:06:882 (6) - if you place it at about 366/104 you still keep the triangle :3
15:53 Exa: Even though 336/39 seems to work better
15:54 xChorse: yeah gonna put it higher instead
15:54 Exa: yeah
15:54 Exa: 00:09:149 (4,5,6) - These are not perfectly linear
15:54 Exa: 00:09:324 (5) - And to be honest I thing it would be cool to change angle on this one
15:54 Exa: Since it contains quite a unique sound
15:55 Exa: having it as a part of a simple and plain patterns doesn't seem to bring it out well enough
15:55 Exa: 00:11:242 (1,2,3,4) - Wow what are these lazer sounds
15:55 Exa: Why add them here, they have nothing to do with the song o.o
15:55 xChorse: placeholder at the start now I grew to like them lol
15:56 Exa: damn ok
15:56 xChorse: I'd change them if I'd find something more fitting
15:56 Exa: ofc
15:56 Exa: 00:13:335 (3,4,5) - Try spacing (4,5) more since they are part of the DNB beats
15:57 Exa: 00:17:696 (5,6) - Just like you've done here
15:57 Exa: 00:21:882 (4,5) - Same goes for this and for every other one >.<
15:58 Exa: 00:23:452 (1,2,1) - Wow why suddenly deny movement here, the bass beat should be enough to space them out!
15:59 xChorse: should I move 00:23:626 (2) - down to the left or?
15:59 Exa: 00:29:381 (1,2,3) - Try using soft hitsample for ticks on 5% since you can't silence both the sliderslide and the ticks
15:59 xChorse: they were like 02:09:498 (1,2,1) - before
15:59 Exa: 00:23:538 (2) - Moving it at about 284/273 should work
16:01 Exa: 00:34:963 (1) - Same goes for this slidertick
16:02 Exa: 02:09:498 (1,2,1) - And nah they are not the same because there are different beats before and after that create different tension
16:03 Exa: 00:40:544 (1) - And for this slidertick
16:04 Exa: 00:59:033 (3) - I expected this a bit more spaced out, given that it's more prominent than the rest
16:04 Exa: 00:59:382 (4,5) - O (5) is the same thing as the one on the linear pattern, try spacing it out a bit
16:05 Exa: 01:00:778 (5,6,7) - !!!Don't space out that much on red ticks!!!
16:05 Exa: 01:00:778 (5) - It's cool if you space this out but spacing out 6 is too hardcore, hard to read and not prominent enough of a sound
16:06 Exa: 01:07:579 (4,5,6) - I would select these
16:06 Exa: ctrl+h ctrl+j
16:06 Exa: and stack 6 on 01:06:532 (2) -
16:07 Exa: A-are you there? XD
16:07 xChorse: yeah
16:07 xChorse: doing everything
16:07 Exa: cool
16:07 xChorse: I thought of making 01:07:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - in a low ds circle
16:07 Exa: 01:11:242 (1) - I would also expect to see that much more spaced out compared to the last two
16:07 xChorse: but then 01:08:452 (1) - would be weird
16:08 Exa: yeah that's how I thought of it
16:08 Exa: 01:11:940 (3,4) - These um
16:08 Exa: These are like they grew a cancer tumor and just gave up on life
16:08 Exa: They are too small to support a shape like this
16:08 xChorse: LOL
16:09 Exa: XD
16:10 Exa: 01:14:905 (4,5,6) - How about moving these at 132,185 so they are exactly under 01:14:033 (1) - ?
16:11 Exa: 01:15:254 (7,1) - In general try to space strong stuff more
16:11 Exa: 01:15:428 (1) - Like, ctrl+ging this should do the trick
16:13 Exa: 01:18:393 (2,3,4) - Linear movement with spacial flactuations is the worse possible movement you could ever use
16:13 xChorse: how about stacking 01:15:428 (1) - on 01:15:952 (3) -
16:13 Exa: It's weird, hard and impossible to read properly
16:13 Exa: Ofc you can stack
16:13 Exa: I do like the little overlap tho
16:13 Exa: even though it's an overlap
16:14 Exa: 01:19:266 (6,7,1) - Same goes for this regarding the linear flow
16:14 xChorse: light insane diff has a ton of those lol
16:14 Exa: Yeah hm
16:14 Exa: You don't need to get rid of them
16:15 Exa: just be aware of the fact that they are not as comfortable as sharp angles
16:15 Exa: 01:20:486 (5,6,7) - By using a triplet here, it's like treating the hardcore beats on 5,7 the same way as you treat the -hardly audable- beat on 6
16:16 Exa: 01:21:882 (4,5,6) - While this one is ok
16:17 xChorse: so remove the triplet
16:17 xChorse: ?
16:17 Exa: more or less yeah
16:18 Exa: 01:44:731 (1,3,4) - Nice symmetric overlap
16:19 Exa: 01:46:126 (1) - I also expected to see this a bit more afar
16:20 Exa: Please go though this diff once we finish this mod and make sure you emphasize each prominent beat properly
16:20 xChorse: Yeah
16:20 xChorse: The last one would be a bit overkill since I want it to scale equally
16:21 xChorse: the first one might be small now but if I made it bigger then the 2nd one would be fullscreen
16:21 Exa: yeah the problem is
16:22 Exa: that you emphasize not-so-strong beats with already big jumps
16:22 Exa: and when an actual strong beat comes up
16:22 Exa: you can't space out more
16:22 Exa: cuase it would affect relative difficulty
16:22 Exa: ._.
16:22 Exa: 01:50:312 (1) - Like.. this would be cool if you spaced it out
16:23 xChorse: 01:50:312 (1) - tail stacked on 01:48:568 (6) - tail would be good spacing, right?
16:24 Exa: yeah that seems fair
16:24 Exa: 01:53:103 (1) - How about placing this in the middle of 01:51:707 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern?
16:24 Exa: that way you don't //kill// the tesnion and also reduce spacing
16:26 Exa: 01:56:766 (4,5) - Space out? It's pretty self-explanatory?
16:26 xChorse: so like 324,192?
16:26 Exa: 01:58:161 (4) - What's with this out ;D
16:26 Exa: sound*
16:26 Exa: yeah that seems better
16:26 Exa: 01:58:684 (1) - Cause see, you actually spaced stuff out
16:28 Exa: 02:09:498 (1,2,1) - How about doing something like [http://puu.sh/n6o1M/959d3e855e.jpg this]?
16:29 Exa: And that's pretty much it
16:31 Exa: I don't have the time to mod the rest of the diffs, do you have any questions?
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