19:19 -Kamikaze-: fuck you, I could be playing PES now
19:19 -Kamikaze-: but the bass had to drop
19:20 Hydria: :D
19:20 Hydria: <3 u 2
19:20 -Kamikaze-: why did noone touch this btw
19:21 Hydria: laziness prob
19:21 Hydria: who the fuck wants to touch a 7 min marathon
19:21 -Kamikaze-: I wanna rank that like, now
19:21 -Kamikaze-: but the comments
19:21 -Kamikaze-: "OMG KAMI RANKED 4K MAP WOOOOO"
19:21 Hydria: lol
19:21 Hydria: you can use the excuse of
19:21 -Kamikaze-: fuck that shit I'll rank this anyway
19:21 -Kamikaze-: smd
19:21 Hydria: "it's a marathon"
19:21 -Kamikaze-: I'm clearing out bubbled maps
19:22 -Kamikaze-: there, done
19:22 Hydria: because no one will actually map a 4k marathon again just to get you to rank it
19:22 Hydria: cool
19:22 -Kamikaze-: ok first off
19:22 -Kamikaze-: why is this HP7
19:22 -Kamikaze-: that's like
19:22 Hydria: let me go locate the map first
19:22 -Kamikaze-: too low??????????????????
19:22 *-Kamikaze- is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/746614 kors k - Dot [The Bass Drops, Always Sounds Like A Tremor]] <osu!mania> |4K|
19:23 Hydria: it was HP7 because back then all my maps were HP7
19:23 Hydria: I could prob up it to 8
19:23 -Kamikaze-: please do
19:23 Hydria: done
19:23 -Kamikaze-: I'll get to it after my friend finishes playing it
19:23 -Kamikaze-: he's rather bad but he still gets 96,2 so it's k I guess
19:23 Hydria: I've been waiting 6 months you can take your time dw
19:24 -Kamikaze-: I hope I can do this in like 30 mins and play some PES
19:24 -Kamikaze-: I've been getting my ass kicked yesterday
19:24 Hydria: I'll keep the chit-chat to a min then
19:24 Hydria: good luck with your future PES btw
19:24 -Kamikaze-: thank
19:25 Hydria: inb4 BSS breaks again
19:25 -Kamikaze-: aaaaaAAAAAAA
19:25 -Kamikaze-: btw raika bubbled this too so I assume that HS is fine
19:26 Hydria: yeah
19:26 Hydria: I redid part of the hitsounding that needed it on zen's mod so the fact they didn't complain about it should be fine
19:27 -Kamikaze-: 	This beatmap is over 6 minutes long. Consider shortening it if it's not a marathon-style map.	
19:27 -Kamikaze-: osu is racist
19:27 Hydria: ikr
19:27 Hydria: better map a full spread like loctav wants :^)
19:27 -Kamikaze-: ;^)
19:28 -Kamikaze-: ok aimod checked, all fine
19:28 -Kamikaze-: jesus the amount of varied hitsound volumes in this thing
19:28 Hydria: :D
19:29 -Kamikaze-: the hitsounds are really loud tho
19:29 -Kamikaze-: hmm
19:29 -Kamikaze-: lower by 10% maybe?
19:29 -Kamikaze-: or at least lower the louder parts
19:29 Hydria: you want to know why the volume % is so awkward?
19:29 Hydria: that's what an already 10% reduction looks like
19:29 Hydria: lol
19:29 -Kamikaze-: lmao
19:29 Hydria: I can do another 10% though
19:30 -Kamikaze-: please do
19:30 -Kamikaze-: 00:01:180 - why this doesn't have finish tho
19:30 Hydria: err note 1 does
19:31 -Kamikaze-: oh shit it blended in with the note
19:31 -Kamikaze-: nvm I guess
19:31 -Kamikaze-: 00:16:950 (16950|1,16950|0) - reverse those notes maybe?
19:32 -Kamikaze-: 00:16:319 (16319|0) - this could go to 3rd too, makes sense with 00:15:898 (15898|2,15898|3) - and 00:17:580 (17580|3,17580|2,18001|2,18001|3) - being mapped how they are
19:33 Hydria: yeah sure that's fine
19:33 -Kamikaze-: 00:35:453 (35453|2,35453|3) - make them 1/2 LNs like 00:35:243 (35243|1,35243|0) - ?
19:33 -Kamikaze-: kind same sound
19:34 -Kamikaze-: kinda*
19:34 Hydria: ok sure
19:35 -Kamikaze-: 00:49:962 (49962|3) - not sure if that should be mapped, because it's an echo
19:35 -Kamikaze-: gives out a weird vibe
19:35 -Kamikaze-: 00:51:644 (51644|3,52064|1) - this too
19:35 -Kamikaze-: up to you tho
19:36 Hydria: eh map feels kinda empty without them
19:36 -Kamikaze-: okay
19:36 -Kamikaze-: 00:56:480 (56480|3,56533|2,56585|1,56638|0,56690|2,56690|3,56901|1) - reverse all of those
19:36 -Kamikaze-: ballance and shit
19:37 -Kamikaze-: all bursts until now were right -> left
19:37 Hydria: huh never noticed
19:37 Hydria: ok done
19:39 -Kamikaze-: 01:10:778 (70778|2,70883|2) - this doesn't sound like a minijack to me tbh
19:40 Hydria: something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4398103 be better?
19:40 -Kamikaze-: 01:11:304 (71304|0) - this also is kinda after the wub as the second wub goes longer and this is for beat, change to normal note
19:40 -Kamikaze-: checking the screen atm
19:40 -Kamikaze-: yeah that's good
19:41 Hydria: done
19:41 Hydria: ok cool
19:42 -Kamikaze-: 01:16:666 (76666|2,76771|1) - how about making first one a normal note and second the LN for the shooowhoooooosh sound
19:43 Hydria: ok that's fine
19:45 -Kamikaze-: 01:17:402 - delete the note from 1 here? (mind the sampleset btw)
19:45 -Kamikaze-: this note has only one sound, the previous has bass and later have synth and stuff
19:45 -Kamikaze-: actually same here 01:03:945 (63945|0) - 
19:45 -Kamikaze-: tho I'm not sure
19:46 -Kamikaze-: I just don't feel like there's enough sound for double jumpjacks
19:47 Hydria: I could do like I did on brain power and have L shaped jacks
19:47 Hydria: for both
19:47 Hydria: like both sets of double double jumpjacks
19:47 -Kamikaze-: as in 12 2 34 4?
19:48 -Kamikaze-: that kind of thing
19:48 Hydria: prob 12 2 34 3
19:48 Hydria: yeah
19:48 -Kamikaze-: that's great
19:48 Hydria: ok sorted
19:49 -Kamikaze-: 01:24:866 - add a note for stronger beat?
19:49 -Kamikaze-: feels stronger at least idk
19:51 Hydria: would it be fine putting an extra note for 01:25:076 - as well then because going from 3 -> 1 just doesn't feel right there
19:51 Hydria: as in 3 notes to 1 note
19:51 -Kamikaze-: actually
19:52 -Kamikaze-: nvm
19:52 -Kamikaze-: I didn't notice that 01:23:184 (83184|1) - was for clap
19:53 Hydria: ah
19:53 -Kamikaze-: 01:32:646 (92646|0) - move to 4?
19:53 -Kamikaze-: anchorz
19:53 Hydria: yeah sure
19:53 -Kamikaze-: 01:34:644 - missed note for the wub
19:54 -Kamikaze-: you could end 01:34:328 (94328|0) - here too
19:54 Hydria: ok done
19:56 -Kamikaze-: 01:41:688 (101688|3,101898|1) - I feel like those should totally be one LN
19:56 -Kamikaze-: the pitch change is so insignificant that it should stay on this lane
19:57 Hydria: yeah I see what you mean
19:57 -Kamikaze-: 02:02:084 (122084|2) - this is actually a really gay note
19:58 -Kamikaze-: 02:15:331 (135331|3,135541|0) - man, you could do those LNs on 32 sometimes '>'
19:59 Hydria: I like the emphasis at the end of a section of music if that's a good enough excuse
19:59 -Kamikaze-: for which
20:00 Hydria: the placement of the LNs
20:00 -Kamikaze-: ah
20:00 -Kamikaze-: well it is a good enough excuse
20:00 Hydria: cool
20:00 -Kamikaze-: but it gets a bit boring imo
20:00 -Kamikaze-: up to you tho
20:01 Hydria: I can change some of the earlier ones
20:01 Hydria: or later ones
20:01 Hydria: just that one in particular
20:01 -Kamikaze-: would be cool
20:01 -Kamikaze-: for variety
20:01 -Kamikaze-: just so it's not always the same
20:02 -Kamikaze-: 02:25:949 (145949|3,146054|1,146054|2,146159|0) - no need for those notes, because in this buildup you're just layering claps
20:02 -Kamikaze-: you could also add here 02:25:844 - to have all 3chords
20:03 -Kamikaze-: 02:41:299 (161299|3,161404|2) - turn this into a 1/2 LN, start on first note, end on second, expresses the sound better imo
20:03 -Kamikaze-: brb min
20:06 Hydria: just listened to it on 25% speed and it sounds like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4398242 might work out better
20:08 -Kamikaze-: the second sound is very faint tho
20:08 -Kamikaze-: hmm
20:09 -Kamikaze-: how about the thing you've shown, but the longer LN is a normal note
20:09 Hydria: ok that's fine
20:10 -Kamikaze-: 03:05:795 (185795|2,185900|1,186005|3,186110|2) - I feel like those could be minijacks for emphasis on beat
20:10 -Kamikaze-: or trill at least
20:11 -Kamikaze-: yeah trill will work better with Ln and triple at the end
20:11 -Kamikaze-: 2323 or 3434
20:11 Hydria: trill works
20:12 Hydria: gonna go 3434 so people can practice 1h trilling :D
20:12 -Kamikaze-: wooo
20:13 -Kamikaze-: 03:09:422 (189422|1) - if this goes for the weird wub sound then make this a single note, it literally lasts 1/12 or sth
20:13 -Kamikaze-: or maybe I'm too nitpicky
20:14 Hydria: it's like a 3/16th note
20:14 Hydria: think I can get away with that? :D
20:14 -Kamikaze-: I think it shouldn't be a problem tbh
20:14 -Kamikaze-: 03:16:308 (196308|3,196519|1) - change those LNs to normal notes just to properly exploit the "pause" in melody
20:14 Hydria: what, leaving it as a 3/8th LN?
20:14 Hydria: or
20:14 -Kamikaze-: leave it
20:14 Hydria: having the 3/16th LN
20:14 Hydria: ok
20:15 -Kamikaze-: should be ok to make it a little extended
20:15 -Kamikaze-: 03:17:780 - is that mapped to the 1/6 weird increasing volume sound
20:16 -Kamikaze-: or the weird sounds
20:16 -Kamikaze-: weird sounds are 1/12
20:16 Hydria: it's mapped to something
20:16 -Kamikaze-: o k
20:17 Hydria: I think it's mapped to the end of the 4 1/8th notes
20:17 Hydria: as a 1/6th
20:17 Hydria: I'll change that
20:17 -Kamikaze-: oh yeah it's 1/8
20:17 -Kamikaze-: my bad
20:17 Hydria: still needed changing anyhow :D
20:18 -Kamikaze-: 03:21:635 (201635|1,201705|3) - those are 1/8 from the blue tick
20:18 Hydria: sorted
20:19 -Kamikaze-: 03:39:858 - from now on you should reduce layering little by little
20:19 -Kamikaze-: since song "dies out"
20:19 -Kamikaze-: keeping same layering is weird
20:21 -Kamikaze-: you could also lower scroll a little to emphasize that
20:21 -Kamikaze-: like when you reduce layer a little do 0,9
20:21 -Kamikaze-: then 0,8
20:21 Hydria: ok cool
20:22 -Kamikaze-: I feel like the whole buildup is overdone for some reason
20:22 -Kamikaze-: it has light js on a very quiet part
20:22 -Kamikaze-: 03:56:469 - 
20:22 -Kamikaze-: and then goes to easy LNs with slow notes
20:23 -Kamikaze-: I would suggest mapping it like the LN part, but without LNs
20:23 -Kamikaze-: if you get it
20:23 -Kamikaze-: to have that gradual increase
20:23 -Kamikaze-: also turn back SV with time
20:23 -Kamikaze-: reverse to the part before
20:23 -Kamikaze-: so you have a proper slowdown and buildup
20:23 Hydria: ok give me a min and I shall have that sorted
20:23 -Kamikaze-: sure
20:26 Hydria: ok that's all sorted out now
20:26 -Kamikaze-: okay
20:27 -Kamikaze-: 04:53:873 (293873|2,294083|2,294293|2,294503|2,294714|2,294924|2,295134|2,295345|2,295555|2,295765|2,295975|2) - 
20:27 -Kamikaze-: fuck this anchor tbh
20:27 Hydria: oh jfc
20:28 Hydria: fixed
20:28 -Kamikaze-: 05:08:591 - isn't this burst 1/16?
20:29 Hydria: yes but I'm not having a 16th wall in a random part of the song
20:29 -Kamikaze-: fair point
20:29 -Kamikaze-: 05:20:366 - add a note on 4 for crash?
20:30 -Kamikaze-: wait no nvm
20:30 -Kamikaze-: that's hella gay
20:30 -Kamikaze-: I wish you wouldn't have only handtrills tho
20:30 -Kamikaze-: 13 24 trills should be here and there
20:31 Hydria: I'll go through it after you're finished and change some of the trills up then
20:31 Hydria: I'm not a fan of handtrills myself anymore tbf
20:31 -Kamikaze-: 05:45:178 - why this is 2 notes
20:32 Hydria: drum beat + note
20:33 -Kamikaze-: ok
20:34 -Kamikaze-: 06:37:114 (397114|0) - move to 4
20:35 -Kamikaze-: 06:36:168 - this kinda doesn't have the AUUUUUUUUU sample LN
20:35 -Kamikaze-: which is mapped in other places
20:36 Hydria: moving 06:37:114 (397114|0) - to 4 causes a lot of right hand bias imo
20:37 -Kamikaze-: you could move other stuff to avoid that
20:37 -Kamikaze-: short 1 into long 2 which ends with a short 1 is kinda gay
20:38 Hydria: ok fixed
20:38 Hydria: also the note at 06:36:168 -
20:38 -Kamikaze-: 06:51:833 - & 06:52:674 - add note to not cut off the rhythm so abruptly and leave the 1/2 for a lil bit
20:38 Hydria: was supposed to be snapped to the static noise
20:38 -Kamikaze-: yeah but you have that static noise mapped alongside the voice sample later
20:38 -Kamikaze-: like the mentioned 06:36:904 (396904|1) - 
20:39 -Kamikaze-: btw what is this for 06:36:273 (396273|1) - 
20:40 Hydria: 1. I've fixed the original LN to be like the rest of the static noise LN, 2. don't have a clue, removed
20:40 -Kamikaze-: last two things: why you suddenly do 3 2 3 instead of 2 1 2 when the song is fading out
20:40 -Kamikaze-: 06:51:623 - 
20:41 -Kamikaze-: 06:58:141 (418141|1,418194|2,418246|3) - and this is just rude to acc
20:41 -Kamikaze-: it's the long awaited end, leave one LN there
20:41 -Kamikaze-: ruining your SS because you didn't pay attention on a 7 min marathon is fuck you tier
20:42 Hydria: you can blame raika for those 3 LNs
20:43 -Kamikaze-: I'll totes blame him
20:43 -Kamikaze-: don't be rude to players
20:43 -Kamikaze-: btw that sound is ASMR tier holy shit
20:43 Hydria: lol
20:43 -Kamikaze-: I've repeated it 15 times now
20:44 -Kamikaze-: it almost smacks my earlobes
20:44 Hydria: fucking beautiful
20:44 -Kamikaze-: ok update that thing
20:44 Hydria: give me 3 min whilst I go through the map and fix handtrills
20:44 -Kamikaze-: oki
20:44 Hydria: and then I'll update
20:44 Hydria: you can listen to that sound like 40 more times
20:44 -Kamikaze-: I have ~15 mins left so I'll have time to check it