For sure
Glad to be able to help make the tourney better~

Okoratu wrote:

so
why do you force ppl in #25k-#10k to read AR10 consistently in a tournament for fun?

You aren't serious... are you? Ofc there are going to be fuckin hr maps in a tournament. There is a line between having skill and having fun. AR10 isn't even hard to read...

I am honestly surprised that The Boy Who Murdered Love got ranked with those stupid ass sliders that end right before the next slider which takes a fullscreen jump to get to...

Tehron wrote:

Okay, so the Group Stage is over and these are the teams advancing into Round of 16:

• 
  Group G

1. Broke a slider
2. We've Been AFK

Round of 16 mappool will be announced shortly!

Yay! So glad that my team "We've Been AFK" had made it through due to another team dropping out. No shame as it saved us due to not being able to have 3 players be at the third game so we got saved hard :/ GL to the 15 other teams that made it, especially "Broke A Slider" as they were super understanding about me having to throw our match due to time and player count restrictions!

atleast RO16 mappool won't be full of FCs
matchs are going to get interesting
looking forward some great matches

Bacon wrote:

Okoratu wrote:

so
why do you force ppl in #25k-#10k to read AR10 consistently in a tournament for fun?

You aren't serious... are you? Ofc there are going to be fuckin hr maps in a tournament. There is a line between having skill and having fun. AR10 isn't even hard to read...

Hey there you seem to be pretty emotional about my opinion. For most people in that rank rage I can imagine the general features of HR to be quite stressful, namely approach rate and hp drain being very high. Combine that with a low density map and you have a lot of pressure on ppl so I was questioning why you're putting high stress on ppl in a tournament aimed to be mostly for fun. Also nice triple post.

Bacon wrote:

Okoratu wrote:

so
why do you force ppl in #25k-#10k to read AR10 consistently in a tournament for fun?

You aren't serious... are you? Ofc there are going to be fuckin hr maps in a tournament. There is a line between having skill and having fun. AR10 isn't even hard to read...

You're right. There is a very fine line between having skill and having fun. You know what the goal of this tournament is? To have fun.

The point Oko is trying to make is that if this is a tournament meant for fun in an 10k-25k skill range, the mappool would have reflected that notion by giving low rankers who aren't really too great, a chance to upset a top or mid seeded team.

In fact let's take the Group Stage pool for example; the two most notable map throughout the entire tournament are Clumsy thoughts HD and GALLOWS BELL HR.

Clumsy thoughts is very circle oriented and jump heavy, it takes a lot more effort and jump stamina for a lower ranked player to play that. Throw on a Hidden mod, and it makes that 2x more difficult for them, yet an experienced HD player would have a less difficult time with the map, given they are a higher rank, with practice that a player between 20k - 25k would likely never have

GALLOWS BELL HR, the most infamous map of the entire group stage pool, has seen the most bans out of teams that aren't low ranked either. Why? Well, it's simple - they can't play it consistently. Why? AR10, OD10, and HP9.8 are the reasons why. When you say AR10, isn't "even that hard", that's probably because you had practice on it. If you had never ever touched AR10, you would never say something like that. Not only is the AR a problem, the slow BPM of the map combined with low object density, high OD (harder to get 300s on time) makes it extremely difficult for lower ranked players to survive on this map. Lack of opportunity to regain HP to survive the high drain (there's probably only 2 areas in the entire map that can give a good boost of HP) makes this map very punishing, simply because these lower ranked players don't have the ability to do so many things you are likely able to do such as keep combo, keep high accuracy, dealing with nerves, etc.

Consider also the type of words I used to describe these two maps; difficult and punishing. These aren't words you would even hear about a map from a tournament that's meant for fun. The moment you mention player skill, it nullifies your argument entirely.

I'm not asking for the mappool selectors to change the entire HR pool, but I hope you consider your entire range of players' skill the next time a tournament is organized.

With Giraldas input on the seeding, will the matchups be redone?

B0aty wrote:

With Giraldas input on the seeding, will the matchups be redone?

Yes I'm currently redoing them, shouldn't take too long. I'll try to have them posted today ^^

Giralda wrote:

I'm not asking for the mappool selectors to change the entire HR pool, but I hope you consider your entire range of players' skill the next time a tournament is organized.

Will do, can't put everything on the fact that this is my first tournament but it has a factor in it. All this is just a learning process for me and will improve the experience for the future tournaments and later rounds in this tournament.
Hoping that people will still have fun even though there are some harder and as you said, punishing maps in the mappools D:

If you can't FC the maps, train instead of criticize the mappool !

Hanae wrote:

If you can't FC the maps, train instead of criticize the mappool !

d

New Schedules are now done and I wish to see any requests to change the schedules as soon as possible since it's already Friday!

Edit: This typo is real -_- *Wednesday.

Hanae wrote:

If you can't FC the maps, train instead of criticize the mappool !

+1

B0aty wrote:

Some slight issues with the scheduling of the upcoming game, is it possible to reschedule to 11am sunday/move to saturday?

I fucked up on the first request, meant saturday :S

is the mappool gunna change

Hanae wrote:

If you can't FC the maps, train instead of criticize the mappool !

thats great! ill go put time freeze dt for osst :^)

Tehron please answer my pms about the schedule already ;_; I'm really worried

http://puu.sh/mEdMA/608075e74b.png

VINXIS wrote:

is the mappool gunna change

Not for Ro16, of course there will be new mappools for future rounds.

_verto_ wrote:

Tehron please answer my pms about the schedule already ;_; I'm really worried

http://puu.sh/mEdMA/608075e74b.png

Waiting for a reply from opposing team.

B0aty wrote:

B0aty wrote:

Some slight issues with the scheduling of the upcoming game, is it possible to reschedule to 11am sunday/move to saturday?

I fucked up on the first request, meant saturday :S

Oh didn't see this here before I sent the pm Oh well, the pm would've been the same either way.

Hi! So I saw the change of schedules and brackets and apparently my team is facing "Sacred Baguettes", who, out of their 4 players, only have 2 over #10,000 rank (2/4 players that can play in the tournament).
Does this mean my team would have to play them 2v2, 3v2, or are they are disqualified? Thank you for reading

Snowwy wrote:

Hi! So I saw the change of schedules and brackets and apparently my team is facing "Sacred Baguettes", who, out of their 4 players, only have 2 over #10,000 rank (2/4 players that can play in the tournament).
Does this mean my team would have to play them 2v2, 3v2, or are they are disqualified? Thank you for reading

Wait untill match day. They still can go back to 10k. If not then you will probably play 2v3.

Snowwy wrote:

Hi! So I saw the change of schedules and brackets and apparently my team is facing "Sacred Baguettes", who, out of their 4 players, only have 2 over #10,000 rank (2/4 players that can play in the tournament).
Does this mean my team would have to play them 2v2, 3v2, or are they are disqualified? Thank you for reading

You can play 2v2 if your team wants to, otherwise it will be played 3v2.

Snajper8 wrote:

Snowwy wrote:

Hi! So I saw the change of schedules and brackets and apparently my team is facing "Sacred Baguettes", who, out of their 4 players, only have 2 over #10,000 rank (2/4 players that can play in the tournament).
Does this mean my team would have to play them 2v2, 3v2, or are they are disqualified? Thank you for reading

Wait untill match day. They still can go back to 10k. If not then you will probably play 2v3.

This too^, thank you Snajper!

Hello , i was wondering if we could get this weekends matches for team (We've Been AFK) rescheduled for saturday around 2 PM UTC or later.

Histoire wrote:

Hanae wrote:

If you can't FC the maps, train instead of criticize the mappool !

thats great! ill go put time freeze dt for osst :^)

2 easy

Hi! Can my game against Sacred Baguettes be scheduled on Sunday, 16:00 UTC? Thanks in advanced!

If only two of our players are able to play, are we allowed to 2v3 or are we disqualified?

edit: nvm saw the post above

Okay since I'm having problems with this matter I'll just post it here.
Whenever I send you a private message about the matches you have (most of the time about it's rescheduling) could I get a reply? Still waiting for replies from multiple people even though it's already Saturday.

Edit: This match is canceled due to a team resigning:
bigsugoioppai - NotEstellia-

This will be a default win for bigsugoioppai and they will advance to the next round.

Damnnn so late at night, guess I can't help my team :C go "We've been AFK"!

Tehron wrote:

Okay since I'm having problems with this matter I'll just post it here.
Whenever I send you a private message about the matches you have (most of the time about it's rescheduling) could I get a reply? Still waiting for replies from multiple people even though it's already Saturday.

Edit: This match is canceled due to a team resigning:
bigsugoioppai - NotEstellia-

This will be a default win for bigsugoioppai and they will advance to the next round.

rip my goals

[Nicole] wrote:

Tehron wrote:

Okay since I'm having problems with this matter I'll just post it here.
Whenever I send you a private message about the matches you have (most of the time about it's rescheduling) could I get a reply? Still waiting for replies from multiple people even though it's already Saturday.

Edit: This match is canceled due to a team resigning:
bigsugoioppai - NotEstellia-

This will be a default win for bigsugoioppai and they will advance to the next round.

rip my goals

sorry we just cant make it, too busy

Histoire wrote:

8-)

[Nicole] wrote:

rip my goals

sorry we just cant make it, too busy

=^=

It's a sad Histoire (... Histoire = Story in French ><)

SORRY FOR THE JOKE ;W;

Burning Lolis vs Sacred Baguette will be streamed on my personal channel! It will also be saved as a vod for people who want to watch it afterwards.

My personal twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/tehrongaming

Some really close matches next week :O.

kill me *err.. just heartbroken due to loss - thank you for tournament it's really nice

Quarter Finals mappool is here!
Check on the main post for individual maps and links if you don't want to download the map pack!

Quarter Finals Map Pack

Teams advancing to Quarter Finals:

1. bigsugoioppai
2. Sliderbroke my life
3. pls enjoy game
4. MastErbaters
5. Burning Lolis
6. PROpsy
7. Pantsu Thieves
8. Merp Rev2

Yo guys, good luck on these intense upcoming weeks. Here's a little something for y'all.

Snowwy wrote:

Yo guys, good luck on these intense upcoming weeks. Here's a little something for y'all.

+1 =w=

in pkk we trust to guide us through our next matches ouob