1. Easy (1,05 stars, 28 notes)
2. Gero's Maze (2,61 stars, 79 notes)
3. Hard (2,55 stars, 90 notes)
4. Normal (1,73 stars, 58 notes)

Backstep wrote:

Gero's Hard

00:10:242 (3) - You can ctrl+g here to make a bit challenge. Applied.

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Title:Forest of Illusion
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Artist:Koji Kondo
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Creator:MoodyRPG
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Aeii wrote:

Gero's Hard

00:05:045 (4) - this slider ahhhhh please no it's not 2008 Excuse me?
00:18:273 (4) - ^ ^
00:08:352 (3) - again, (this might be a personal thing) but this slider looks really untidy and doesn't fit at all Since when slider art is a bad thing? I don't get it.
00:11:423 (1,2) - blanket This is okay as is.
00:20:163 (8) - sliders like this suggest a change in pitch, but there a change in pitch here so it ends up looking really out of place. Don't map sliders like these just for the sake of making things more varied, please. Hahahahaha.
00:06:935 (4) - ^ ^
00:24:179 (5) - this slider flows terrible into 00:24:651 (1) - . I know it looks nice, but to play it you need to do a sort of awkward pull back with your. I would consider aiming 00:24:179 (5) - more at the start of 00:24:651 (1) - to remove that jerky backtrack. I think it fits well with the background even though is not that bad since the sound at this part is quite constant so I won't change it.

1. Why is the volume of the mp3 so low at the beginning and fluctuates throughout? O.o I'd find another one, but if you don't at least change the hitsound-volumes as suggested in the previous mod
2. Does Slider Tick Rate 2 serve any purpose? I don't really see it and it seems rather irritating in the Easy, that's why I'd suggest lowering it to 1 if there's no specific reason

1. 00:26:541 (1,2,3) - It would be cool if you would somehow differentiate that the melody has a very prominent note at 00:28:195 while none at 00:28:431 -, it's not the same as the two previous reverse-sliders at all
2. 00:13:549 (5) and 00:28:667 (4) - The tone of the lower melody ends one 1/2 earlier, so I'd suggest either shortening those or silencing their ends since there's not beat there
3. 00:24:179 (5,1) and 00:26:069 (5,1) - I don't really understand why you made those two inconsistent with 00:09:061 (5,1,5,1) -, seems kinda weird to introduce 3/4-sliders so late + they're the only ones, why not make them at the first time too? : \
4. 00:12:132 (2,4) - those are not stacked properly ^^
5. ew, weird sliders D^: jk <3

1. 00:00:085 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 00:15:203 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There are only three other stacks in the map, barely having any movement in these combos for so long is quite boring imo, at least un-stack (7,8)
2. 00:13:077 (5) and 00:28:195 (4) - There aren't any other 1/1-gaps in the map and leaving out the downbeat here feels weird (also mentioned in previous mod already, would be kinda cool if you went through that one first before requesting again : \)
3. 00:09:061 (5,4) - Those sliders end on really important notes which don't get their deserved emphasis, why don't you shorten these like at the second time too? 00:09:770 (1,2,3) and 00:11:659 (1,2,3) don't feel optimally emphasized, it's way better the other way (which needs those sliders to be shortened)
4. 00:22:053 (4) and 00:24:179 (5,5) - Those aren't symmetrical 100% / their red anchors are not in the middle :^)
5. 00:13:549 (1) and 00:28:667 (5) - The tone of the lower melody ends one 1/2 earlier, so I'd suggest either shortening those or silencing their ends since there's not beat there

1. 00:07:644 (1,2,3) - Not perfectly symmetrical / triagle since (1,3) are way closer than (2,3) :^) (sry for being nazi, but there's isn't much else to point out in such simple, short maps ^^)
2. 00:12:841 (3,4) - Why stack those? (4) is a really special note + not moving on these stacks adds to not moving until the spinner starts which tends to be 'boring' ^^ same for 00:27:959 (3,4) ofc
3. 00:15:675 (1) - Since 00:15:439 isn't mapped bc of the spinner, mapping the tail here seems kinda random, I'd just make this one a circle to keep it more 'consistent' in this tiny dimension - same for 00:30:793 (1) ofc. Or you could just shorten the spinner by 1/1 since the low sound ends there and it feels kinda weird to go over that anyways, and shortening would make this issue irrelevant since you could then map it like the very beginning too

1. 00:16:147 - The gap here seems unnecessary large, I highly suggest adding a circle here
2. Nothing more to say, I find the 5/2-sliders extremely boring but I guess you did it for rhythm-variety so yeah, such is Easy ^^ But maybe you could at least replace 00:17:092 (1) with the rhythm like 00:01:974 (2,3) -?

Bonsai wrote:

quick mod from #modreqs since I couldn't mod your flashbulb-map~

General

1. Why is the volume of the mp3 so low at the beginning and fluctuates throughout? O.o I'd find another one, but if you don't at least change the hitsound-volumes as suggested in the previous mod Added a timing point
2. Does Slider Tick Rate 2 serve any purpose? I don't really see it and it seems rather irritating in the Easy, that's why I'd suggest lowering it to 1 if there's no specific reason Fixed

Gero's Hard

1. 00:26:541 (1,2,3) - It would be cool if you would somehow differentiate that the melody has a very prominent note at 00:28:195 while none at 00:28:431 -, it's not the same as the two previous reverse-sliders at all
2. 00:13:549 (5) and 00:28:667 (4) - The tone of the lower melody ends one 1/2 earlier, so I'd suggest either shortening those or silencing their ends since there's not beat there
3. 00:24:179 (5,1) and 00:26:069 (5,1) - I don't really understand why you made those two inconsistent with 00:09:061 (5,1,5,1) -, seems kinda weird to introduce 3/4-sliders so late + they're the only ones, why not make them at the first time too? : \
4. 00:12:132 (2,4) - those are not stacked properly ^^
5. ew, weird sliders D^: jk <3

Hard

1. 00:00:085 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 00:15:203 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There are only three other stacks in the map, barely having any movement in these combos for so long is quite boring imo, at least un-stack (7,8) Fixed the stack
2. 00:13:077 (5) and 00:28:195 (4) - There aren't any other 1/1-gaps in the map and leaving out the downbeat here feels weird (also mentioned in previous mod already, would be kinda cool if you went through that one first before requesting again : \) Fixed
3. 00:09:061 (5,4) - Those sliders end on really important notes which don't get their deserved emphasis, why don't you shorten these like at the second time too? 00:09:770 (1,2,3) and 00:11:659 (1,2,3) don't feel optimally emphasized, it's way better the other way (which needs those sliders to be shortened) It keeps the rhythm of the song
4. 00:22:053 (4) and 00:24:179 (5,5) - Those aren't symmetrical 100% / their red anchors are not in the middle :^) Fixed
5. 00:13:549 (1) and 00:28:667 (5) - The tone of the lower melody ends one 1/2 earlier, so I'd suggest either shortening those or silencing their ends since there's not beat there Fixed the pattern

Normal

1. 00:07:644 (1,2,3) - Not perfectly symmetrical / triagle since (1,3) are way closer than (2,3) :^) (sry for being nazi, but there's isn't much else to point out in such simple, short maps ^^) fixed
2. 00:12:841 (3,4) - Why stack those? (4) is a really special note + not moving on these stacks adds to not moving until the spinner starts which tends to be 'boring' ^^ same for 00:27:959 (3,4) ofc fixed
3. 00:15:675 (1) - Since 00:15:439 isn't mapped bc of the spinner, mapping the tail here seems kinda random, I'd just make this one a circle to keep it more 'consistent' in this tiny dimension - same for 00:30:793 (1) ofc. Or you could just shorten the spinner by 1/1 since the low sound ends there and it feels kinda weird to go over that anyways, and shortening would make this issue irrelevant since you could then map it like the very beginning too I'd keep for now this pattern, it feels empty if I add a circle imo

Easy

1. 00:16:147 - The gap here seems unnecessary large, I highly suggest adding a circle here Is really "fast" for newbies players, so no
2. Nothing more to say, I find the 5/2-sliders extremely boring but I guess you did it for rhythm-variety so yeah, such is Easy ^^ But maybe you could at least replace 00:17:092 (1) with the rhythm like 00:01:974 (2,3) -? Fixed a bit

Good luck!

1. Your current background size is 4:3 but it is very small, so I suggest you to at least use 1024x768 here. If you have troubles in finding a proper background, call me back.
2. Please make all combo colours consistent. Is there a need for different combo colours in the CTB difficulty?
3. Add the Guest Mapper's usernames to your tags and make sure that all tags are consistent.
4. You should consider adding custom hitsounds to this set. Currently you used only whistles and this makes the hitsounding in this set very poor and monotone. If you have troubles in finding proper hitsounds, call me back.

1. Before I start modding this I want to bring up that this is BY FAR not a Platter. Making use of AR9 here in combination with an overuse of Hyperdashes makes that a Rain already. Imho, a Rain does however not fit the general song because it's too slow-paced. My mod will contain a lot of sections which will need to be nerfed or else this cannot be qualified as Platter at all. So here we go.
2. AR9 is a terrible idea for this song. It is way too calm for this, please use AR and OD8 as in most other platters. I would find an AR9 platter interesting on a more fast-paced song but here it makes no sense at all.
3. 00:01:029 (3,4) - This jump is a little too rough, move (4) a bit more to the right to avoid any weird wall movement pattern.
4. 00:01:266 (4,1) - Basically needs a revamp, full-screen hypers should especially avoided on Platters. I suggest to do something similar like this and erase the hyper completely:
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:04:336 (2,3) - Again tough gap here, please move (3) a little more to the right.
6. 00:05:045 (4,1) - A very similar case applies to this, the suggestion from above can be copied to this section. Please avoid full-screen hypers in general.
7. 00:11:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Highly suggested to avoid using double Hypers on a Platter in general. And again it's arguable whether this fits the music. There is nothing really that highlights this very well. I also want to bring up that the spinner/note distance at 00:13:549 (6,1) - is too low, it provides a too short moment of reaction time to fully catch the spinner. Have a suggestion for the whole pattern:
   
   Step 1

   
   Step 2 (beware the timeline of the spinner)

   
8. I think it is not necessary to point them all out in single points anymore, you used more full screen Hypers here, the spacing of them all needs to be decreased in general: 00:16:384 (4,1) - , 00:18:273 (6,1) - , 00:20:163 (4,1) -
9. 00:19:455 (2,3) - The current jump between this notes is too rough, (3) is way too hard to catch, so move it far more to the right.
10. 00:26:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Exactly the same as I mentioned at 00:11:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - applies to this pattern since you just copied it.
11. This looks like a really short mod but in fact it is a huge revamp of your whole difficulty. The current style of it is generally bad and I will maybe give this a more detailed look again when it got more modders. Right now the difficulty is very troublesome due to the high spacing in general.

Sey wrote:

The CTB difficulty is very troublesome, it isn't a Platter and the general spacing in it is too extreme for the general idea of a Platter nor it really suits the song. It needs a revamp, so please take my quick check as serious as possible! Yah I Know, this was mapped for being a Rain. but we think that the map don't need a Rain at all, it's slow and peaceful for force jumps, when I finished it (Rain) I forgot to change the Diff Settings

1. Song Folder: Is the mp3 supposed to vary in volume throughout? It sounds really strange to me. Also, as mentioned by Sey, you could do with a 1024x768 BG if available, since 800x600 looks pretty stretched on my monitor, even with the pixelart nature of the BG
2. Song Setup: Just one for Dax, see Rain diff
3. Metadata: Add DaxMasterix to tags for the CtB GDs
4. Timing: No issues
5. Hitsounds: Agreeing with Sey, the use of only soft whistles is really pretty dull, there's almost no emphasis given to anything and it feels plain to play and listen to
6. AImod: No issues

1. The drain time of this difficulty is less than 30 seconds which is unrankable. Please map to the end of the mp3 file (Standard diffs end at 00:36:935 for reference)
2. Is there intended to be no hdash in this difficulty at all? I've seen "white" diffs without hdashes before, but considering the hdash patterns you have in the Rain diff it creates a spread issue to not include any in this diff in my opinion
3. 00:06:934 (4,1) - 00:22:052 (4,1) - Spacing could be reduced slightly here, since this return jump is slightly unexpected. Alternatively, 00:06:934 (4,1) - 00:22:052 (4,1) - would be good places to put a hyper if you decide to include any in this diff
4. 00:07:644 (1,2) - 00:22:762 (1,2) - You use these stacked patterns quite a few times and they really kill the flow for me. Some more movement between these would be nice
5. Not really much else to say since the map is just 15 seconds and then copy/paste/flip. I know the song is repetitive, but you can definitely get some more variety involved here >.>

1. As in Platter, you'll need to map the rest of the song to achieve a drain time over 30 seconds
2. AR should be equal to OD in CtB difficulties, please set OD to 9
3. Ayy it's almost the exact same as the previous diff only with hypers and timing jumps! Variety is dead! Is this difficulty really necessary on a calm and short song like this?
4. 00:01:974 (1,2,3,4) - Lack of spacing kills the flow here considering the strong dashes around it, a left/right pattern, even without requiring dash, would fit nicely here
5. 00:04:336 (2,3) - Nice timing jump, pretty uncomfortable to play considering the wiggle required to hit (2). I'd reduce the distance slightly
6. 00:05:754 (1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:01:974 (1,2,3,4) - I really expect there to be more movement here
7. 00:07:644 (1,2) - Same as in Platter, why no movement here?Just doesn't feel all that interesting to play to be honest
8. 00:11:896 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is just hyper abuse, there's no need for a pattern like this given the intensity of the music here
9. 00:13:549 (8,1) - Recommend leaving a 1/2 space between note+spinner to avoid any readability issues in certain skins
10. Copy anything you change to the second half since it's the same again orz

JBHyperion wrote:

Mod via PM request

General Comments:

1. Song Folder: Is the mp3 supposed to vary in volume throughout? It sounds really strange to me. Also, as mentioned by Sey, you could do with a 1024x768 BG if available, since 800x600 looks pretty stretched on my monitor, even with the pixelart nature of the BG it's the original one (track talking), and I support the 1024x768 team!
2. Song Setup: Just one for Dax, see Rain diff '-'
3. Metadata: Add DaxMasterix to tags for the CtB GDs please moody please
4. Timing: No issues yey
5. Hitsounds: Agreeing with Sey, the use of only soft whistles is really pretty dull, there's almost no emphasis given to anything and it feels plain to play and listen to wip
6. AImod: No issues

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Platter

1. The drain time of this difficulty is less than 30 seconds which is unrankable. Please map to the end of the mp3 file (Standard diffs end at 00:36:935 for reference) mapped 4 sure
2. Is there intended to be no hdash in this difficulty at all? I've seen "white" diffs without hdashes before, but considering the hdash patterns you have in the Rain diff it creates a spread issue to not include any in this diff in my opinion added some HDashes
3. 00:06:934 (4,1) - 00:22:052 (4,1) - Spacing could be reduced slightly here, since this return jump is slightly unexpected. Alternatively, 00:06:934 (4,1) - 00:22:052 (4,1) - would be good places to put a hyper if you decide to include any in this diff added this one, and the mirror one
4. 00:07:644 (1,2) - 00:22:762 (1,2) - You use these stacked patterns quite a few times and they really kill the flow for me. Some more movement between these would be nice maybe keep the zig zag? , I know but It's hard to me make a patter fun and easy at the same time, talking for easy diffs like Platter, will change this soon, I will think on a better pattern
5. Not really much else to say since the map is just 15 seconds and then copy/paste/flip. I know the song is repetitive, but you can definitely get some more variety involved here >.> <w< wat r u tlkin abut Pretty sure but, isn't really a rule right? IMO I like to keep the consistency for it, yeah, I hate it too, some maps just copy paste the pattern to make the way too much easy right? I'm a lazy mapper for this? Yeah xD but I can't find another good pattern at all, I like the way how you can play it, still with the doble pattern

Rain

1. As in Platter, you'll need to map the rest of the song to achieve a drain time over 30 seconds
2. AR should be equal to OD in CtB difficulties, please set OD to 9 isn't? Oh god.
3. Ayy it's almost the exact same as the previous diff only with hypers and timing jumps! Variety is dead! Is this difficulty really necessary on a calm and short song like this? no. It's my first Rain so, maybe will take it out to a better place
4. 00:01:974 (1,2,3,4) - Lack of spacing kills the flow here considering the strong dashes around it, a left/right pattern, even without requiring dash, would fit nicely here Added
5. 00:04:336 (2,3) - Nice timing jump, pretty uncomfortable to play considering the wiggle required to hit (2). I'd reduce the distance slightly Idk why but is still playable if you move the ryuuta in the way that it can catch the triplet instead of 1-2-1, Idk how explain it better.
6. 00:05:754 (1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:01:974 (1,2,3,4) - I really expect there to be more movement here Added.
7. 00:07:644 (1,2) - Same as in Platter, why no movement here?Just doesn't feel all that interesting to play to be honest changed.
8. 00:11:896 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is just hyper abuse, there's no need for a pattern like this given the intensity of the music here I don't think so, it's easy too play since you just need to keep the dash with a zig-zag movemment. The way to make it looks hard for some newbies but still being easy to do, IMO Is pretty cute.
9. 00:13:549 (8,1) - Recommend leaving a 1/2 space between note+spinner to avoid any readability issues in certain skins kk
10. Copy anything you change to the second half since it's the same again orz jejeje

This is all from me. If you have any questions or want to discuss things further, please don't hesitate to get back to me and I'll see what I can do to help. Thanks you so much!

Good luck! (:

• General

1. Los tags están inconsistentes según AIMod.

• [Easy]

1. 00:12:840 (4) - Qué tal si haces blanket con esta nota?
   
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2. 00:26:541 (5) - Creo que se ve mejor estéticamente y fluye un poquito mejor si rotas este slider horizontalmente.
   
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• [Normal]

1. 00:01:266 (4,1) - Se me ocurrió algo que me gustó mucho. Te sugiero que intentes cambiar la curva de este slider de manera que quede hacia arriba, y luego voltees 00:01:974 (1) verticalmente. Creo que se ve mucho más prolijo y fluye mejor que el pattern actual. Terminarías con algo más o menos así:
   
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2. 00:06:699 (3) - Creo que jugaría un poco mejor y se vería menos apretado si mueves este slider mas hacia arriba.

• [Hard]
  
  En esta dificultad no encontré nada que yo considerara que debería cambiarse. Hay algunos patterns que no me gustan mucho personalmente pero eso ya es sólo mi opinión, y yo respeto ante todo el estilo y decisión del mapper con su mapa. (:
  
  Lo único que vi que valía la pena hacerle retoque es a blankets como 00:10:951 (4) pero ya es algo mínimo que me da hasta vergüenza enlistarlo.

• [Gero's Maze]

1. 00:13:549 (5) - El whistle en el recorrido del slider suena mal en mi opinión. No sé si es intencional pero por si acaso lo menciono igual.
2. 00:22:053 (4) - Creo que fluiría mejor si pones este slider al comienzo de 00:21:345 (2) en vez de en el final.
3. 00:28:667 (4) - Ese whistle. ; - ;
4. 00:33:392 (4) - Lo mismo que mencioné antes. Fluiría mejor si pones este slider al comienzo de 00:32:683 (2) en vez de donde está ahora.
   
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Irreversible wrote:

m4m

[General]

Can you show me why this is the correct metadata? Check Gero's post in first page

[Easy]

00:00:085 (1) - I think a straight slider doesn't fit this sound so much. Maybe try a curve or a zig zag?
00:03:864 (1) - Same.
00:12:840 (4) - Blanket is slightly off.
00:13:313 (1) - To be honest I think this spinner is not good. Reason is that it ends 00:15:203 - here, and you can't even map this strong beat and start of the chorus. You should remove it and map it.

[Normal]

00:13:549 (1) - Same as in Easy.

[Hard]

00:10:478 (3,4) - These sliders don't really compliment each other. I would suggest a straight slider for 00:10:951 (4) - as it will compliment the song better (long sound)

[Gero's Maze]

00:13:549 (5) - NC?
00:28:667 (4) - NC?

LOL.... nothing much to say to be honest. Good luck!

Irreversible wrote:

All ok now!

18:02 MoodyRPG: Hi Irre, I was wondering if you could recheck my Super Mario World map
18:02 MoodyRPG: only if you can, of course
18:05 Irreversible: is the metadata correct?
18:05 Irreversible: ah nvm
18:05 Irreversible: xD
18:05 MoodyRPG: xD
18:06 Irreversible: easy
18:06 Irreversible: 00:13:313 (5) -
18:06 Irreversible: add nc?
18:06 Irreversible: or no
18:06 Irreversible: don't
18:06 Irreversible: it's easy, no need to spam haah
18:06 MoodyRPG: haha ok
18:06 Irreversible: 00:26:541 (1) - but add here
18:06 MoodyRPG: fixed
18:06 Irreversible: 00:11:423 (3) - and here
18:06 MoodyRPG: fixed
18:08 Irreversible: in all diffs
18:08 Irreversible: can you change the first red line to 30%
18:09 MoodyRPG: the red line?
18:09 Irreversible: time line
18:09 Irreversible: http://puu.sh/o2wiu/a9abcd9fec.png
18:09 Irreversible: set to 30%
18:09 MoodyRPG: ok
18:11 MoodyRPG: fixed in all diffs
18:12 Irreversible: update~
18:12 MoodyRPG: done
18:13 Irreversible: :D
18:13 MoodyRPG: hehe, thanks a lot dude
18:13 MoodyRPG: :)
18:13 Irreversible: o/

1. The volume adjustment from 30% to 60% at 00:15:203 felt too much imo. 50% would be enough, and how do you think? Also I think section 00:22:762 ~ 00:30:085 - should be 30% as 00:07:644 ~ 00:14:966.

1. 00:13:313 (4) - Considering the previous pattern 00:11:423 (1,2,3) is same with 00:09:533 (1,2,3), regarding that pattern finished would be better. Accordingly, I suggest you to add NC here to devide the pattern.
2. 00:28:431 (4) - Same here.

1. 00:01:974 (1,2) - Let's reduce this massive jump here. This is the intro of the map, and even the volume is pretty low. Having this aggressive pattern in this quiet section feels unfitting along the atmosphere. Make this smaller as you've done at 00:05:754 (1,2).
2. 00:24:179 (5,1) - Spacing being broken due to the symmetry was a little sad. Can you think of a better placement? The current one is also fine if you can't found a better alternative.

1. 00:28:667 (1) - Is the whistle in the slide intended? It feels pretty loud.