Camellia - overcomplexification [Osu|Taiko] · forum

Ambient

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-11-18T03:55:58+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, 10 April 2017 at 11:17:27 PM

Artist: Camellia
Title: overcomplexification
Source: jubeat prop
Tags: eeezzzeee HB24 -Tochi FCL Strategas Nwolf Ntiger
BPM: 190
Filesize: 4220kb
Play Time: 01:52
Difficulties Available:

eze's Extra (5.45 stars, 613 notes)
FCL's Hyper (4.32 stars, 394 notes)
Hard (3.36 stars, 286 notes)
HB's Easy (1.48 stars, 97 notes)
Insane (5.01 stars, 544 notes)
Normal (2.01 stars, 164 notes)
Nwolf's Inner Oni (5.64 stars, 800 notes)
Nwolf's Muzukashii (3.53 stars, 441 notes)
Nwolf's Oni (4.95 stars, 606 notes)
Strategas' Extra (5.76 stars, 649 notes)
-Tochi's Complex (5.92 stars, 650 notes)

Download: Camellia - overcomplexification
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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HB's Easy - HB24

FCL's Hyper - FCL

Eze's Extra - eeezzzzeee

Strategas's Extra - Strategas

-Tochi's Complex -Tochi

Taiko - Nwolf

Nwolf's Muzukashii

Nwolf's Oni

Nwolf's Inner Oni

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Metadata

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References:
http://puu.sh/mA5b0/a0bbbf557e.png from http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/jubeat/prop ... list2.html
http://puu.sh/mA5c0/6969244cd5.png from http://cametek.jp/work.html
http://puu.sh/mA5d1/8887e6c5ff.png from http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/jubeat/prop ... index.html

kill me

Last edited by Ambient 2017-04-11T07:01:19+00:00, edited 149 times in total.

Kushper

26 posts

Joined August 2014

Kushper 2015-12-10T12:41:27+00:00

Great map!

I have seen some things in the Insane difficulty that can be improved:

SPOILER

00:23:770 (3,4) -
The two stacked notes here seem a bit counter-intuitive, especially because it comes right after a back and forth jump.

01:03:244 (7,8) -
The spacing between these two kicksliders seem rather abrupt and unexpected; I suggest decreasing the distance between the two sliders.

01:03:244 (7,8) -
These two notes seem to disrupt the flow, it's easy to miss the second one; I think flipping them would be better.

01:44:770 (3,1) -
The short stop between these two sliders stop the flow in the map during the kiai; I think filling this hole with a stream or a slow slider would be better.

The rest of the difficulty - and map - is awesome though! Good luck with getting this ranked.

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-11T14:35:28+00:00

thanks for the help!

suggestions have been acknowledged and changes have been made.

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2015-12-21T12:54:39+00:00

Hey
here is my GD as u requested (dont forget to add my name in tags)
hope u like it ^^

Btw use DS in ur normal diff, lower diffs most have consistent DS
u can check ur Ai mod for DS errors

PM me in game if u need to ask me anything

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-22T15:04:16+00:00

cheers friend

EphemeralFetish

472 posts

Joined May 2014

EphemeralFetish 2015-12-24T16:43:37+00:00

NM from queue.

eze's Extra

00:08:928 (3,5,6) - Just a quick aesthetics point. You could blanket this with little effort.
00:18:086 (5) - Would be best to shape this slider to match the curve of the stream.
00:39:244 (1,1,1,1) - While the combo colours help. The inconsistent spacing makes this a little difficult to read as 1/3. Try to keep it evenly spaced. Doesnt need to be perfect though.
00:53:612 (1) - Heavy bass hit on this white tick. Would be better scrapping this slider and just using all circles.
01:02:612 (1) - Go over the whole stream section and smooth our your curves.
01:11:928 (7,1) - I definitely hear a note on this blue tick.
The kiai section in general is very misleading. Its hard to tell whats a 1/2 gap and whats a 1/4. 01:29:612 (3,4,5,6,7) - 01:32:454 (5,6,7,8,9) - Just in general too large spacing and differentiating spacing at that. 01:44:138 (3,1,2) - This one suffers because of the new combo colour, you'd naturally assume it to be a 1/2.

Pretty good. Just needs general distance equalizing and a bit of tidying up. GL.

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-24T17:32:23+00:00

Cheers for the mod!

Changes mentioned have been implemented.

play rainworld

373 posts

Joined May 2015

play rainworld 2015-12-24T18:16:30+00:00

HB's Easy

SPOILER

NO hitsounds in HB's Easy. please change.
00:12:402 (1) - replace this spinner with more mapping.
00:29:770 (1) - curve this slider more by moving the 6th slider point left

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-24T18:33:10+00:00

TheOneSniveh wrote:
HB's Easy

SPOILER
NO hitsounds in HB's Easy. please change.
00:12:402 (1) - replace this spinner with more mapping.
00:29:770 (1) - curve this slider more by moving the 6th slider point left

"replace this spinner with more mapping." is a but vague... but i'll see what i can do.

Slider point has been moved though. Not sure if that alone is worth kudosu.

Axey

1,216 posts

Joined October 2009

Axey 2015-12-25T06:13:35+00:00

merry christmas~

General

00:01:981 (1) - ~ 00:11:138 (2) - you can add whistle on this part to emphasize the piano in bgm

eze's Extra

00:04:191 (1) - end at 00:04:428 - ?
00:05:928 (2) - it's better to make (2) parallel with (1)
00:06:086 (3) - end at blue line (though I thought this bgm should make slider x0.5(slower is better lol
00:06:717 (5) - try this? http://puu.sh/m7QBq/c4fc52632a.jpg
00:14:296 (1) - ^blue line
00:55:507 (2,3,4) - (2) (4) C+G?

interesting map style~ keep this! but some parts looks tousy and need to improve

Insane

nice map

Hard

01:43:507 (2,4) - I think these are too close with slider, how about http://puu.sh/m7R90/8ce3dfc8d0.jpg

Normal

00:03:875 (3) - can add whistle to emphasize
00:05:454 (2) - it's better? http://puu.sh/m7Ro0/4229b24823.jpg
and the sound on 00:06:559 (4) - 00:06:875 (5) - i cant sure if can add slider
00:16:507 (4) - use slider is better, the hit note (5) isnt clear for bgm, 00:15:244 (2,3) - these 2 sliders can use notes
00:17:138 (1) - ~00:19:033 (5) - use normal hitsound ; 00:19:665 (6) - remove note and stretching (5) till 00:19:665 -
http://puu.sh/m7RIZ/98fe5fad27.jpg maybe you can try this
00:59:138 (5) - http://puu.sh/m7ROD/2d8a8cfd8f.jpg add this?

It's better to keep the same DS in the whole Normal, and this diff has a little bit tousy, suggest to asjust the DS to remap (Reference Easy

Easy

00:06:402 (2) - end at 00:06:875 -
01:27:875 (1) - ~ end - you can add normal-hitsound instead of whistle, the use of whistle is too much

nice song chpice~ gl

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2015-12-25T11:02:02+00:00

Axey wrote:
merry christmas~

Easy

00:06:402 (2) - end at 00:06:875 - and miss the big white tick? no thanks ^^
01:27:875 (1) - ~ end - you can add normal-hitsound instead of whistle, the use of whistle is too much idk imo its okey

nice song chpice~ gl

Thanks!

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-25T11:44:08+00:00

Axey wrote:
merry christmas~

General

00:01:981 (1) - ~ 00:11:138 (2) - you can add whistle on this part to emphasize the piano in bgm

eze's Extra

00:04:191 (1) - end at 00:04:428 - ? - Done.
00:05:928 (2) - it's better to make (2) parallel with (1) - Done.
00:06:086 (3) - end at blue line (though I thought this bgm should make slider x0.5(slower is better lol - I feel that 0.75x is better, Done.
00:06:717 (5) - try this? http://puu.sh/m7QBq/c4fc52632a.jpg - Done.
00:14:296 (1) - ^blue line - Done.
00:55:507 (2,3,4) - (2) (4) C+G? - Done.

interesting map style~ keep this! but some parts looks tousy and need to improve

Insane

nice map - Cheers!

Hard

01:43:507 (2,4) - I think these are too close with slider, how about http://puu.sh/m7R90/8ce3dfc8d0.jpg - Done.

Normal

00:03:875 (3) - can add whistle to emphasize - Done.
00:05:454 (2) - it's better? http://puu.sh/m7Ro0/4229b24823.jpg - Done.
and the sound on 00:06:559 (4) - 00:06:875 (5) - i cant sure if can add slider Nah.
00:16:507 (4) - use slider is better, the hit note (5) isnt clear for bgm, 00:15:244 (2,3) - these 2 sliders can use notes
00:17:138 (1) - ~00:19:033 (5) - use normal hitsound ; 00:19:665 (6) - remove note and stretching (5) till 00:19:665 -
http://puu.sh/m7RIZ/98fe5fad27.jpg maybe you can try this - Oh baby done.
00:59:138 (5) - http://puu.sh/m7ROD/2d8a8cfd8f.jpg add this? - Done.

It's better to keep the same DS in the whole Normal, and this diff has a little bit tousy, suggest to asjust the DS to remap (Reference Easy

nice song chpice~ gl

Cheers~

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2015-12-27T00:10:19+00:00

Finished the GD~
http://puu.sh/m9EFC/c7d36e84ce.zip

(added some hitsounds for my diff)

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-27T09:39:33+00:00

Woo! Cheers man

Sangzin

628 posts

Joined February 2013

Sangzin 2015-12-28T03:26:01+00:00

Hello! From my modding queue!

[General]

Where is combo color?

[-Tochi's Complex]

00:01:975 - There has different volume which can be unrankable(i saw map has disqualified since this.)
SPOILER
00:17:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Same pattern with 00:17:132 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ?
00:30:711 (2) - little bit more left

[eze's Extra]

00:01:975 -There has different hitsound sampleset, but i'm not sure this is also unrankable. but I think it may be fixed:
SPOILER
00:19:580 (8,1) - Blanket?
00:36:554 (4,3) - stack
01:27:869 (1) - Finish on the head

[Insane]

01:05:132 - to 01:07:580 - Looks weird timing. This may be right:
SPOILER
01:42:711 (7) - NC?
01:52:501 (4) - This one should 1/6 trill, and end on red(1/2 timing)

[Hard]

00:15:869 (5) - Missing NC?
00:27:238 (1) - move first grey anchor to left to make more natural curve
00:29:290 (4) - This short slider jump looks hard for player, Ctrl+G?
00:39:869 (2) - Stack on head?
01:10:501 (2,5) - perfect stack
01:52:501 (4) - same as insane

[Normal]

There has a lot of distance issues. Generally normal diff also must use same distance. Thread Yeah, this map does. I'm sorry but this map may need fix this stuff entirely or remapped.

GL!

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2015-12-28T13:18:54+00:00

Sangzin wrote:
[-Tochi's Complex]

00:01:975 - There has different volume which can be unrankable(i saw map has disqualified since this.) Fixed!
SPOILER
00:17:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Same pattern with 00:17:132 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ? What do u mean?
00:30:711 (2) - little bit more left Fixed!

Thanks for the mod

my diff

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: overcomplexification.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 87869
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.2
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 12080,22185,42396,62606,72080
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:overcomplexification
TitleUnicode:overcomplexification
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
Version:-Tochi's Complex
Source:jubeat prop
Tags:eeezzzeee hb24 -tochi
BeatmapID:863563
BeatmapSetID:378212

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8.8
ApproachRate:9.6
SliderMultiplier:1.9
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-28T13:24:44+00:00

Sangzin wrote:
Hello! From my modding queue!

[General]

Where is combo color? -

[eze's Extra]

00:01:975 -There has different hitsound sampleset, but i'm not sure this is also unrankable. but I think it may be fixed:
SPOILER
00:19:580 (8,1) - Blanket? - I think it's fine
00:36:554 (4,3) - stack - Fixed.
01:27:869 (1) - Finish on the head - Fixed.

[Insane]

01:05:132 - to 01:07:580 - Looks weird timing. This may be right: - Fixed.
SPOILER
01:42:711 (7) - NC? - Fixed.
01:52:501 (4) - This one should 1/6 trill, and end on red(1/2 timing) - Fixed.

[Hard]

00:15:869 (5) - Missing NC? - Fixed.
00:27:238 (1) - move first grey anchor to left to make more natural curve - Fixed.
00:29:290 (4) - This short slider jump looks hard for player, Ctrl+G? - Fixed.
00:39:869 (2) - Stack on head? - Fixed.
01:10:501 (2,5) - perfect stack - Fixed.
01:52:501 (4) - same as insane - Fixed.

[Normal]

There has a lot of distance issues. Generally normal diff also must use same distance. Thread Yeah, this map does. I'm sorry but this map may need fix this stuff entirely or remapped. - Yeah this is a problem for me. However i've made some changes so we'll see with the other mods to come.

GL!

Cheers for the mod! Updated.

Qiyana

1,585 posts

Joined April 2014

Qiyana 2015-12-29T16:44:39+00:00

Hi! From My Queue!

Your map is too perfect to mod.

Qiyana

1,585 posts

Joined April 2014

Qiyana 2015-12-29T16:57:17+00:00

Hi! From My Queue! Sorry but your map is perfect! Only found one mod!

HBB's Easy

[General]
Nothing!
[Modding Itself]
01:09:238 (2) - Fix this slider. Doesn't look right.

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-29T19:37:42+00:00

Dyl-Byl wrote:
Hi! From My Queue!

Your map is too perfect to mod.

Oh baby, thankyou

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2015-12-29T20:58:45+00:00

Dyl-Byl wrote:
Hi! From My Queue! Sorry but your map is perfect! Only found one mod!

HBB's Easy
[General]
Nothing!
[Modding Itself]
01:09:238 (2) - Fix this slider. Doesn't look right. ok ok x)

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: overcomplexification.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 87869
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 87869,97975
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:overcomplexification
TitleUnicode:overcomplexification
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
Version:HB's Easy
Source:jubeat prop
Tags:eeezzzeee hb24 -tochi
BeatmapID:860189
BeatmapSetID:378212

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:2.5
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"complex.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,72911,76324
2,83017,86429
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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FCL 2015-12-30T10:53:07+00:00

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osu file format v14

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Also pls use combo colour in other diffs like to my diff

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2015-12-30T11:00:53+00:00

No worries, Cheers

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-01-02T00:22:38+00:00

hey, here's my gd, it's a bit harder than you asked idk if it's okay with you

diff

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hitsounds

http://puu.sh/mghQg/fb303e8b17.rar

hope you like it ^^

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-01-02T11:51:00+00:00

Awesome

we'll see how the mods go anyways because i think its a big gap from Insane to eze's Extra. ah well.
alright boys lets go

nanoK

79 posts

Joined September 2014

nanoK 2016-01-03T19:13:57+00:00

mod from queue

[-Tochi's Complex]

00:38:922 (2,1) - Overlapping sliders
01:35:448 (1,2) - ^

Wow nice diff. Watch out for those sliders though.

[Stratega's Extra]

00:11:448 (1,2) - Overlapping sliders
00:15:001 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Triplets don't go to the beat in this rhythm. Either continue with the beat before or use a stream instead.
01:39:238 (1,2) - Too large a jump for 1 blue tick.

Another good diff that doesn't need much modding

[eze's Extra]

00:19:580 (8,1) - Inequal spacing compared to the rest of the stream
00:51:080 (1,2) - This rhythm is hard to tap and is confusing
00:56:606 (3,1) - Big inequal gap for a stream. Could be read as 1/2 time spacing. Make them closer
01:00:869 (5,6) - Flip these (ctrl+g) for better spacing / better jump
01:02:290 (1,1) - Same stream problem
01:04:817 (1,2,3,4) - This stream is spaced to be more difficult than the rest of your beatmap. Though it's emphasized, make the spacing less, at least so the circles touch eachother
01:07:975 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Overlapping non-geometric stream. I recommend redoing this stream as it's ugly and hard to read with the overlap
01:09:869 (1,2,3,4) - Less spacing

I don't really like this difficulty

It will need a lot more modding

[Insane]

00:05:764 (1,2,3) - Space more equally
00:17:764 (3,4) - There's no reason to have these not be reverse sliders
01:13:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Make the spacing from 1 to 2 noticably different than from 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 by making them close together or far away from eachother. Or you can have a NC on 2.

This difficulty is ok in my own opinion. Still looks rankable and fun to play.

[General]

Cool map

Looks like it will get ranked, and has a nice spread.
Good luck.

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2016-01-03T19:21:36+00:00

nanoK wrote:
[-Tochi's Complex]

00:38:922 (2,1) - Overlapping sliders It fits with the flow and pattern.
01:35:448 (1,2) - ^ Same

Wow nice diff. Watch out for those sliders though. Thank you for the mod ^^

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-01-03T20:07:16+00:00

nanoK wrote:
[Insane]

00:05:764 (1,2,3) - Space more equally - Fixed.
00:17:764 (3,4) - There's no reason to have these not be reverse sliders - Fixed.
01:13:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Make the spacing from 1 to 2 noticably different than from 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 by making them close together or far away from eachother. Or you can have a NC on 2. - Added NC on 2. Fixed.

This difficulty is ok in my own opinion. Still looks rankable and fun to play. -

[eze's Extra]

00:19:580 (8,1) - Inequal spacing compared to the rest of the stream - Fixed.
00:51:080 (1,2) - This rhythm is hard to tap and is confusing - Fixed.
00:56:606 (3,1) - Big inequal gap for a stream. Could be read as 1/2 time spacing. Make them closer
01:00:869 (5,6) - Flip these (ctrl+g) for better spacing / better jump - Fixed.
01:02:290 (1,1) - Same stream problem - Fixed.
01:04:817 (1,2,3,4) - This stream is spaced to be more difficult than the rest of your beatmap. Though it's emphasized, make the spacing less, at least so the circles touch eachother - Fixed.
01:07:975 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Overlapping non-geometric stream. I recommend redoing this stream as it's ugly and hard to read with the overlap - I'll leave it as it is for now.
01:09:869 (1,2,3,4) - Less spacing - Fixed.

[General]

Cool map
Looks like it will get ranked, and has a nice spread.
Good luck. - Thankyou very much and cheers for the mod!

yeah i dunno whats happened to eeezzzeee so for the time being i'm taking control of the diff so i'm not going to completely change it as i do not know what he would want to do with it. Ah well.

Last edited by Ambient 2016-01-04T14:21:15+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2016-01-03T20:48:51+00:00

nanoK wrote:
[Stratega's Extra]

00:11:448 (1,2) - Overlapping sliders intentional
00:15:001 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Triplets don't go to the beat in this rhythm. Either continue with the beat before or use a stream instead. Changed the rhythm paterning to match the previous
01:39:238 (1,2) - Too large a jump for 1 blue tick. The whole kiai is built around that tho and it's not that weak sound even if it's on blue tick

Thanks!

osu file format v14

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Ulqui

710 posts

Joined December 2011

Ulqui 2016-01-03T22:15:16+00:00

Hi, from queue

Nwolf's Muzukashii

01:47:691 (23) - move to 01:47:770
01:47:533 (21) - move to 01:47:454
01:47:849 - add k
01:47:928 - add k
00:11:375 (22) - move to 00:11:454

Nwolf's Oni

00:09:559 - add a note(?
00:11:375 (27) - move to 00:11:454
01:10:507 - add d
01:10:823 - add d
01:11:928 - ^
01:47:770 - add k(?
01:47:691 - d(?

Nwolf's Inner Oni

00:09:559 - add a note(?
00:11:217 (30) - move to 00:11:454
00:35:296 (24,25) - delete
Great diff.

Nwolf's mapping 2 pro 4 me
I hope this mod will be helpfull for ya

snz

877 posts

Joined February 2015

snz 2016-01-04T15:49:48+00:00

Good Map Guy GL With Rank

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-01-04T16:27:44+00:00

Ppuskalin wrote:
Good Map Guy GL With Rank

Nwolf

2,604 posts

Joined September 2012

Nwolf 2016-01-05T12:37:36+00:00

Ulqui wrote:
Hi, from queue

Nwolf's Muzukashii
01:47:691 (23) - move to 01:47:770
01:47:533 (21) - move to 01:47:454 Added a kat on 01:47:454 -
01:47:849 - add k why, no
01:47:928 - add k ^
00:11:375 (22) - move to 00:11:454 correctly snapped already

Nwolf's Oni
00:09:559 - add a note(? same as Inner
00:11:375 (27) - move to 00:11:454 same as Muzu
01:10:507 - add d the sound I'm mapping to is not present here
01:10:823 - add d ^
01:11:928 - ^ ^
01:47:770 - add k(? 01:47:612 - here instead
01:47:691 - d(? became irrelevant with above change

Nwolf's Inner Oni
00:09:559 - add a note(? nothing here, so no
00:11:217 (30) - move to 00:11:454 nothing here 0.o
00:35:296 (24,25) - delete mapping to the *something* going up here and gives a nice lead to the kats imo
Great diff.

Nwolf's mapping 2 pro 4 me
I hope this mod will be helpfull for ya

thanks

Muzu

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: overcomplexification.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 87875
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.5

[Metadata]
Title:overcomplexification
TitleUnicode:overcomplexification
Artist:Camellia
ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
Creator:Ambient
Version:Nwolf's Muzukashii
Source:jubeat prop
Tags:eeezzzeee HB24 -Tochi FCL Strategas Nwolf
BeatmapID:869323
BeatmapSetID:378212

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:8
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SliderTickRate:1

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wasin

wasin 2016-01-05T17:03:58+00:00

Hello from my Q / You missing some rule guy, but you're 1 st it's ok

general
everything is fine

HB's Easy
00:22:185 (1) - 00:27:238 (1) - 00:32:290 (1) - I heard a heavy sound maybe you can add "Finish" here.
00:34:185 (4,1) - Slider(4) is a curve slider and then going to slider(1) it's strange. I think it better if you make slider(1) to be a curve slider. just move a bit down.
00:40:185 - to 00:42:080 - is emtpy. I think you should be add something from 00:41:132 -
00:50:290 (1,2,3) - (2) spacing error. press "G" Change "Grid Size" to be Tiny and move circle(2) X:108 Y:88

Normal please always press "Distance Snap" in this diff

00:02:922 (2,3) - DS 1.2 right? spacing error to 00:09:238 (4) -
00:15:869 (3,4) - Same above
00:25:343 (2,3,4) - There are overlap must be change a pattern
00:27:238 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing error
00:32:290 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:34:817 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:39:238 (1) - 00:42:396 (1,2,3) - 00:44:922 (1,2,3,4) - 00:47:448 (1,2,3) - 00:49:975 (1,2) - 00:51:238 (1,2,3) - 00:52:501 (1,2,3,4) - 00:55:027 (1,2,3,4) - same above ^
00:45:396 (2) - UNRANKABLE here
01:32:606 (7) - ^
I think in this diff must be fix since 00:01:975 (1) - to the end press "Distance Snap" in this diff

Hard
fix spacing since at the begin to the end diff please press "Distance Snap" and put circles and sliders
00:43:975 (1,2,3) - UNRANKABLE must be change a pattern it's too hard for this diff and taiko player
00:45:869 (5,1,2) - ^
00:49:027 (1,2,3) - ^
01:47:764 (4,5) - ^
01:52:343 (3,4) - ^
01:17:764 - You can add something from here

FCL's Hyper
00:39:238 (1,1,1) - add some hit sound here
01:02:606 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - it's too hard for hyper diff

apart from i cant mod because i have no experience sorry for this.

GL rankk it soon

Ambient

579 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ambient 2016-01-05T19:38:42+00:00

Thanks for the mod. I'm currently having Internet issues at the moment so ill get this done once its back up.

Update: Flying back to Australia today so i`ll be inactive for 1 ~ 2 days.

Last edited by Ambient 2016-01-06T15:31:43+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Starset

652 posts

Joined April 2015

Starset 2016-01-06T15:25:14+00:00

wasinkingspeedq wrote:
Hello from my Q / You missing some rule guy, but you're 1 st it's ok

HB's Easy
00:22:185 (1) - 00:27:238 (1) - 00:32:290 (1) - I heard a heavy sound maybe you can add "Finish" here.
00:34:185 (4,1) - Slider(4) is a curve slider and then going to slider(1) it's strange. I think it better if you make slider(1) to be a curve slider. just move a bit down.
00:40:185 - to 00:42:080 - is emtpy. I think you should be add something from 00:41:132 -
00:50:290 (1,2,3) - (2) spacing error. press "G" Change "Grid Size" to be Tiny and move circle(2) X:108 Y:88

Thanks

Update

osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:かめりあ
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185,119,60080,2,0,L|169:10,2,105
140,190,61343,2,0,L|124:299,2,105
220,213,62606,6,0,P|301:229|429:207,1,210,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
493,159,63869,2,0,P|509:191|508:233,2,70,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
439,93,64817,1,2,0:0:0:0:
361,61,65132,6,0,B|304:48|304:48|224:80|144:48|144:48|80:64,1,280
15,104,66711,2,0,P|26:139|28:182,1,70
32,256,67343,2,0,L|105:253,1,70,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,215,67975,6,0,L|393:217,1,210,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
471,215,69238,2,0,B|460:97|336:67,1,210
261,94,70501,6,0,P|208:96|184:93,1,70
119,50,71132,2,0,P|66:48|42:51,1,70
11,125,71764,2,0,B|25:280|25:280|71:326,1,210
256,192,77764,12,0,82817,0:0:0:0:
70,150,87869,6,0,L|216:146,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,142,88817,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,74,89132,2,0,P|375:118|349:206,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,255,90080,1,2,0:0:0:0:
212,270,90396,6,0,P|132:276|66:266,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
13,208,91343,1,2,0:0:0:0:
76,153,91659,2,0,P|156:147|222:157,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
293,185,92606,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,173,92922,6,0,B|385:273|385:273|360:310,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,361,93869,1,2,0:0:0:0:
227,318,94185,2,0,P|163:299|88:300,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
6,310,95132,1,2,0:0:0:0:
16,226,95448,6,0,L|28:80,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
94,35,96396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
169,71,96711,2,0,P|213:85|379:76,1,210,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
441,25,97975,6,0,L|436:172,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,248,98922,1,2,0:0:0:0:
358,288,99238,2,0,P|275:299|217:292,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
141,261,100185,1,2,0:0:0:0:
66,299,100501,6,0,B|54:259|54:259|60:153,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
67,77,101448,1,2,0:0:0:0:
146,49,101764,2,0,P|211:39|290:47,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,69,102711,1,2,0:0:0:0:
442,102,103027,6,0,P|449:67|438:27,2,70,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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TequilaWolf

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Joined November 2013

TequilaWolf 2016-01-07T00:17:47+00:00

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-Tochi's Complex-

This difficulty is +10ms off, I'm pretty sure.

00:07:027 (1) - move to slidertail instead of sliderhead?
00:14:606 (1,2,1,2) - really hard to read on sightread, people will tend to sliderbreak the second slider immediately because they want to move somewhere
00:15:238 (1,2) - ctrl+g so it's facing up o: all the previous patterns are facing up
00:16:659 (2) - ctrl+g
00:18:790 (2,3,4,1,2) - wow wow wow spacing can be made neater I guess xD (it was playable for me but ya I still think you can improve it)
00:23:764 (2) - really would move this upwards so it doesn't conflict with 00:24:080 (1,2,3,4) - o:
00:25:185 (6,7,1) - woooo hard. maybe make it a small stream instead of just a stack directly? I tried using 0.2 DS for 7 and 0.4 for 1
00:25:817 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is hard. maybe move it down and to the left and ctrl+g the whole thing?
00:30:711 (2) - move further away from previous slider, might look neater
00:31:975 (2,3,4,5) - maybe don't stack directly on slidertail, quite hard to read
00:38:922 (2,1) - this transition is a little awkward to play o:
00:50:606 (3) - ctrl+j and adjust
01:05:290 (2,3) - wow this initial double was really hard to read for my fingers even after a few plays xD because of some panic from 01:04:975 (1,2,1) - too
01:05:764 (1,2,3,4) - hardest quad of my life
01:06:475 (7,8) - really hard, maybe move to slidertail. actually I have no idea
01:12:711 (1) - can change to a 1/1 slider, too empty I feel
01:15:869 - note
01:20:527 (2) - maybe move up so it fits the next 2 patterns well
01:21:238 (7) - why is this slidershape different the song is exactly the same ahaha

Strategas's Extra-

00:03:553 (1,2,3,4) - feels weird o: I would move 00:03:869 (3,4) - higher and ctrl+g them
00:04:817 - maaaaybe add note
00:05:764 (1,2) - move 1 down and 2 up, looks kinda cramped now
00:06:080 (3) - maybe curve it
00:07:343 - same as above
00:08:606 (1,2,3,4) - ya it just plays kinda weird I dunno why (you can try making the angle wider too instead of the whole pattern being almost a straight line
00:09:711 - hmm this break..maybe add 4 1/2 notes and something at 00:10:501 for vocals?
00:12:080 (1) - move up a little
00:12:553 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - stack normally seems better
00:18:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this is perfectly playable but..I would remove gap between 00:18:948 (8,1) - ,final 1/4 jump is okay. has that neuronecia feel xD
00:19:659 (1) - might wanna make this a long slider, feels too empty
00:22:185 (1) - more delicious shape would be nice, this is pretty much a straight line
00:27:238 (1) - ya
00:29:764 (1) - move further away make it a jump
00:36:869 (1,2,3) - triangle instead? xD
00:43:659 - note
00:50:764 - noteee
00:56:132 (7) - ctrl+g o:
00:56:843 (3,1) - can be neater
01:03:238 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - more spacing between 4 and 1
01:06:948 (6,7,8) - a little too far
01:07:343 (1,1,1) - is this really 1/3 o: I tried 4 1/4 notes and seems good. if you're keeping the 1/3 make it more obvious that it's 1/3 I think?
01:07:896 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - make it cleaner and maybe more space between new combos
01:09:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - at this point everyone is mashing ahaha, I think just remove the 1 2 3 sliders and replace with regular 1/4 stream and only have 1/4 slider at final 01:10:027
01:43:027 (1) - curve perhaps and 01:43:264 (2,3) - ctrl+g both
01:44:290 (1,2,3,4,5) - doubles are reeeeeeally random and hard (the spacing)
01:46:185 (6,7,8,1) - awkward/hard jump angle into that changing direction stream, and new combos are a bit off
01:46:343 (7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - can be prettier, and again, some kind of spacing for distinction why you put an NC
01:52:343 (1,2) - do not like. how to fix it..maybe add note at 01:52:185 right now it's hard to 300 that random note on red tick

eze's Extra-

This one is +10ms off too unless I'm getting different hit error bar responses between difficulties c:

00:04:501 (1) - stack closer to slidertail
00:38:606 (1) - normal curve with 1 grey point looks better o:
00:39:448 (1,1,1) - increase spacing maybe
00:43:817 - add note
00:50:448 (3,4,5) - make them perfectly straight
00:51:396 - there is a sound here that needs to be clicked I think o:
01:05:764 (1,2) - I would recommend reducing slider to 1/4 and adding circle on 01:05:843
01:07:659 (1) - start slightly further away
01:25:343 (1,2,3) - why so soft
01:27:553 (7,1) - stack I think xD
01:35:764 (2) - prefer perfectly straight slider
01:52:343 (1,2,3) - hmmmmm..ridiculously hard to acc. maybe delete 01:52:580 (2) - and move 3 further away. dunno man

Insane-

00:14:606 (1,2,3) - maybe remove red nodes to make them regular curves
00:37:659 (1) - perfect blanket is x:311 y:232?
00:39:238 (1,1,1,1) - hmm, you can consider changing all to 1/3 sliders, might have a nicer effect
00:43:501 (5,6,7,1) - transition from triplet to repeating slider is a little weird, would map a single circle at 00:43:975 and triplet at 00:44:132
00:46:817 (3) - ctrl+g allows for more smooth movement from these two 00:46:185 (1,2) -
00:52:422 (10) - this note's spacing seems off compared to the rest of the stream
00:55:975 (1) - would make this a jump instead of stacking on slider
01:05:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - would make spacing consistent as they pretty much sound the same
01:12:396 (9) - straight slider
01:21:711 (1,2,1,2) - give consistent spacing between doubles maybe
01:25:343 (1,2,3) - a little too low volume, hard to prepare for 01:26:211 (4,5,6,7) -
01:50:290 (7) - would move to stack on 01:49:817 (4) -

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