1. Azure (5.88 stars, 1666 notes)

-Tochi wrote:

Really not for ranked? :>

Kibbleru wrote:

-Tochi wrote:

Really not for ranked? :>

not sure haha xD

UndeadCapulet wrote:

From my queue:

Azure

Going to break this mod into two sections, one for regular modding stuff, and the other for personal suggestions that I think would fit well with the mapping style.

Regular modding stuff:
00:32:769 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - These triangles are pretty tedious to play because they're constantly rotating in the same direction. I think it'd be more fun if 00:34:454 (2,3,1,2,3) - traveled clockwise instead of counterclockwise. This gives the dividing sliders a lot more purpose, too, since they point out when the triangles change direction (00:33:106 (2,1,2,3,1,2) - counterclockwise, 00:34:117 (1) - slider, 00:34:454 (2,3,1,2) - clockwise, 00:35:129 (3,1) - slider, 00:35:803 (2,1,2,3,1,2) - counterclockwise). im kinda going for a repetitive structure here imo. and its not really easy to change it anymore xD
01:03:949 (2,3,4,5,1) - Have the stream form a smooth curve with 01:03:949 (2) - 's head. Most players will just hover over the sliderhead of these kinds of sliders, especially when preparing for a spaced stream. Your current arrangement makes that really awkward to play out of.
01:04:707 (2,1) - Please change this. It doesn't really fit in your map, you don't do any other 1/4 snapping stuff out of a circle. And even still, the player just got done with the first spaced stream in the map, don't also have them force their way through the first 1/4 circle snap, it's too big of a difficulty spike.
01:11:870 (1,2) - Swap NC to be consistent with 01:10:522 (2,1) - .
01:16:252 (2,3) - This jump feels excessive compared to 01:18:949 (2,3) - . imo it's pretty called for, also its not too hard difficulty wise. i want to remphasize the strength of the slider head
01:59:230 (2,1,2,3) - Hmm idk about this angle, pretty hard to snap to, especially considering this is the first time 1/3 shows up. I tried a 30 degree rotation, seems to work a lot better. did something else
02:21:983 (1) - A lower slider velocity would be better, right now there isn't enough difference from the earlier section (02:21:140 (6,7) - had just happened). makes sense but i want to keep this for personal preferense, i dont really like excessively short sliders haha ><
02:30:578 (1) - Remover NC for obvious reasons.
02:38:836 (5,6,1) - I think you should stack these. Spacing them out kills the vocal emphasis at 02:39:005 (1,2) - , since there's a constant motion. lower DS instead i like the way it currently looks
02:44:567 (2) - I feel like this should be NC'd? would be kinda spammy
04:14:904 (1) - Shouldn't this start at 04:14:735 ?
04:30:747 (1) - This feels out of place since every other time it's a jump pattern (Though tbh I don't really think any of them should be jump patterns... but I guess that's up to you). hmm not sure lol, kinda wanted a symmetry thing
06:06:308 (5,6,7,1) - These jumps feel overdone at this part, it's the least intense part of the song, doesn't really need any jumps at all. To be honest, I think you should just do the same kind of thing you did in the intro.


Suggestions:
00:02:263 (5) - I think you should NC here, and in any similar place. It makes your map feel more cohesive, because it matches up with NC's like 00:43:218 (1) - , 00:45:578 (1,2,1,2) - , 00:48:275 (1) - , and all the other pattern-based NC's that happen shortly before new measures start. it kinda ruins my pattern im going for
01:48:949 (4) - NC's here, and all similar sliders, seems like a good idea. It breaks it up from the rotated slider pattern and makes for a good lead into the next kick sliders.
03:41:196 (1,2,3,4) - I feel like the DS should be decreasing instead of increasing, because each drum hit is quieter than the previous. i think increasing DS is better for buildup
05:05:129 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Reusing these patterns over and over throughout your map kinda kills the power they have, I think you should do some other arrangement here not based on symmetry jumps. lol. idk i wana stay consistent, it feels more structured if i kep it this way
05:36:814 (1,2,3) - I know you do a lot of slidertail on dowbeat stuff, but I really don't think it works here. It's better to just fully emphasize the guitar with sliderbodies k ill consider this one.

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Hope I explained everything well enough...

Do it this map is cool ^^

Kroytz wrote:

azul

00:21:983 (1) - The rhythm from here feels 'empty' seeing as how there are beats unmapped as well as the downbeat being applied to a slider-end. I found this sort of rhythm to be quite good but you could also change (3) to a 1/1 slider and 4 to a 1/1 on red to hit that one background beat http://puu.sh/msvol/80c9fabf85.jpg its kinda the structure im going here for, looking for the empty fill

00:24:342 (7) - The vocal here is too strong to have on a slider-end orz ^

00:39:679 (5) - space lower for anti-jump aesthetic like you did with the rest? not sure wt u mean

00:41:702 - adding circle here beside the slider-end of (2) helps fill in the awkward rhythm gap from 2->3 thats a bit of an overmap imo.

00:41:870 (4,5) - Not sure how to combat this awkward rhythm gap but its possible to map 00:42:039 - beat, tho it's be weird to map that one so idk lol ^

01:04:454 (1,2,1) - that's quite the jump there oo

01:10:185 (2) - I think this is supposed to be Additional Normal Clap? Sounds weird having two different claps for the same pattern i think they sound a bit different

01:25:859 (1) - could flow better if this was rotated 90 and repositioned a little that screws up my structure

01:44:567 (2,1) - these jumps are incredibly large... you do this repeatedly so I won't point them out but jeez i dont think they're that hard cuz slider leniency, and its consistent

01:56:196 (2) - ctrl-g would work better for the direction you're going. you could literally ctrl-h all of this 01:56:533 (3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - and nothing would be damaged lol. You do it properly in the next similar section as well so i think changing would be good idea : p

01:59:511 (2,3) - ctrl-g'ing the direction of these two so it's continuing clock-wise hurts the player less for this rhythm I believe.

02:31:926 (1) - this might work better in terms of rhythm: http://puu.sh/mswCb/dccc8a7a2b.jpg i wana start the slider on the guitar thing

02:53:331 (3) - it'd be cool to have this on the slider-end ill think about this one, doesnt seem bad actually

04:58:387 (1) - This imo works much better http://puu.sh/msx3m/9b0e695f25.jpg no sense in having the sliders start at blue tick and ignore the strong vocal there >> i was going for some cool effect thing here, dunno actually lol. if more ppl complain ill change

06:06:814 (1) - gotta hit that downbeat like you did here 06:09:848 (1) - uhm. the way i have it is better for my pattern sttructure of slider things idk

06:12:207 (1) - ^ those strong beats on slider-ends is ugh

06:15:241 (1) - I don't think a spinner is necessary here but it creates a neat effect so I guess its okay? I'd personally just lower volume every so often and reduce spacing more instead of the spinner until the song ends. its more for score diversity.

This song sounds hard to map ;;

1. delete 4 bookmark and osb【【【
   
2. 00:51:983 (3) - 01:02:769 (5) - clap ?
   
3. 01:04:202 (3,4,5,1) - only once ??
   
4. 01:05:634 (2,3) - 01:07:657 (4,5,1) - i will add drum sampleset …… soft addition about 01:05:634 - 01:05:971 - 01:07:825 -
   
5. 01:06:983 - look like add whistle when click …… i prefer and whistle here follow voice ↑↑↑
   
6. 01:15:578 (1,2,1) - just more fun ↓↓↓
   
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 01:37:151 - like soft clap
   
8. 01:38:162 (1) - ctrl+g ?
   
9. 01:49:286 (1) - about this , i prefer use soft-clap same as 01:49:454 (2) - for the symmetry
   
10. 02:22:320 - miss drum ? look like it's 24clap
    
11. 02:27:713 - 02:31:758 - ↑↑↑
    
12. 02:31:926 - i prefer add drum too ↑↑↑
    
13. 03:05:634 (1,2,3) - more point ? ↓↓↓
    
    
    SPOILER

    
14. 03:36:645 (1,2) - i prefer use 1/2slider + 1/4note to follow guitar
    
15. 03:40:101 - add note ???
    
16. 04:47:432 - miss drum 233
    
17. 04:58:808 (1,2,1,2) - e …… sound like guitar unsnap , but white link more sense ↓↓↓
    
    
    SPOILER

    
18. 05:08:331 (1,2,3) - different with 01:47:432 (1,2,3) - ???
    
19. can't pass

Reditum wrote:

FIND THE BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Diff:
00:21:645 (1) - but like why though lol there's no reason to do this uh nerf a bit, i wanted to emphasize vocals
00:21:983 (1) - Wopuld be better as a longer slider since she holds out the note for longer than 1 beat, and the cymbals aren't choked on beat 2 i kinda wanted to hit the instrument on the white tick. ahh
00:27:207 (1,2,3) - oh jesus
00:41:365 (1) - the hitsofts sound REALLY out of place here uhm. which ones?
00:54:342 (1) - u have so much space you don't have to have this overlap it looks kinda nice to me tbh
01:17:432 (2) - please do not do this the overlap? or the kickslider?
02:56:365 (1) - like readability is more important than aesthetic i think this is readable tbh, there is an nc on the slider so u can see it through the circles
04:04:117 (1,1,2) - DO NOT DO THIS like if you want to put a break then put a break but if you don't then dont personally, i don't really find a problem with this stuff ;x the music becomes strong for an instant to i mapped it

It's mostly fine and while the gimmicks are really weird and hard to play I've kind of given up on trying to enforce a 2012 mapping style on people so uhhhh yeah . Good stuff

Narcissu wrote:

[Azure]

1. delete 4 bookmark and osb【【【
   
2. 00:51:983 (3) - 01:02:769 (5) - clap ?
   
3. 01:04:202 (3,4,5,1) - only once ?? ya, this is the only part where i thought it would work :X
   
4. 01:05:634 (2,3) - 01:07:657 (4,5,1) - i will add drum sampleset …… soft addition about 01:05:634 - 01:05:971 - 01:07:825 -
   
5. 01:06:983 - look like add whistle when click …… i prefer and whistle here follow voice ↑↑↑
   
6. 01:15:578 (1,2,1) - just more fun ↓↓↓ will try, may or may not change it back later.
   
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 01:37:151 - like soft clap
   
8. 01:38:162 (1) - ctrl+g ?
   
9. 01:49:286 (1) - about this , i prefer use soft-clap same as 01:49:454 (2) - for the symmetry
   
10. 02:22:320 - miss drum ? look like it's 24clap
    
11. 02:27:713 - 02:31:758 - ↑↑↑
    
12. 02:31:926 - i prefer add drum too ↑↑↑
    
13. 03:05:634 (1,2,3) - more point ? ↓↓↓
    
    
    SPOILER

    
14. 03:36:645 (1,2) - i prefer use 1/2slider + 1/4note to follow guitar i like my way better, more emphasis on drum
    
15. 03:40:101 - add note ???
    
16. 04:47:432 - miss drum 233
    
17. 04:58:808 (1,2,1,2) - e …… sound like guitar unsnap , but white link more sense ↓↓↓ i wanted to experiment with blue tick here, i think it fits nicely imo but i will change if too many people complain about them
    
    
    SPOILER

    
18. 05:08:331 (1,2,3) - different with 01:47:432 (1,2,3) - ??? yeah, since 2nd kiai a bit different i thinkkk? usually thats how it goes at least for most songs.
    
19. can't pass

ailv wrote:

[Azure]

00:41:365 (1,2,3,4) - To be honest, I don't really know what this is mapped to. Either way it seems that you're missing out on mapping the guitar on the red ticks, but if its deliberately left out for emphasis of something i'm not hearing then theres no reason to change it. this is for the drums

01:14:904 - and 01:13:556 - I'm aware that these are deliberately left out, but they have the same intensity as the red ticks as well, it might be better to just map it instead. that would ruin the intensity of the percussions

01:47:432 (1,2,3) - These feel like they are lacking emphasis. Consider higher SV or bigger spacing imo the slow sv in its own way provides good emphasis to this part too. because of the mechanic ish sounds i think slower sv fits better

01:59:398 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I feel this is a really big difficulty spike that probably doesn't belong. yeah. uhm still considering haha~

02:00:409 (1) - I don't really see the reasoning for a break here tbh honestly its just because the song gets so repetitive here, it would be kinda boring.

02:27:039 (5) - This probably should end on the blue tick, or you could split it up into two sliders? I don't really know how to change this though, but there is a sound on the blue tick for sure, especially since you have 02:29:988 (6) - here. there is a sound on the red tick, also 2 sliders doesn't fit the structure i was going for

02:39:005 (1,2) - You could probably use a greater spaced jump, because theres a lot more emphasis on the vocal here, especially since a less intense part 02:37:572 (4,5) - has a large spacing.
02:39:174 (2) - This also feels intense, could probably use a high SV here as well.

02:32:685 (1) - This note should start on the white tick instead, since the bandpass on the bass filters in starting there, extend the previous note 02:31:926 (1) - onto the blue tick if it matters. its really hard to pinpoint where it starts, but at least to me it seems like the sound its self builds up from the blue tick o_O which is why there is that wave part of the first half of the slider

02:33:949 - I'm not sure if it matters or not, but i'd map this vocal start here. the song doesn't really build up until the downbeat

03:05:634 (1,2,3) - Feels like it should be more intense, same thing as above 01:47:432 (1,2,3)

03:17:601 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I really don't like this either

04:40:016 (1,2) - 04:41:702 (2,3,4,5,1) - 04:42:713 (3,4) - 04:50:971 (1,2,3) - is there really a reason to make these so wide? They don't fit the rest of the sections mapping and they aren't particularly emphasized in the music either, they seemed to be put in there randomly. This lies in contrast with 04:52:994 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - where the increased spacing is actually mapped to the increasing intensity of the kickdrum.
its more for the structure im building up in this section, with the large spacing im more grouping certain sections together.

05:08:331 (1,2,3) - Same as above, needs more emphasis

05:20:297 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Look at above.

05:21:308 (1) - Starting here is imho the most intense part of the song, you could do a quick toggle of kiai if you don't want to place a full kiai here instead. but there is a kiai burst here :<

Good luck Kibble bby <3

ailv wrote:

[Azure]

02:32:685 (1) - This note should start on the white tick instead, since the bandpass on the bass filters in starting there, extend the previous note 02:31:926 (1) - onto the blue tick if it matters. its really hard to pinpoint where it starts, but at least to me it seems like the sound its self builds up from the blue tick o_O which is why there is that wave part of the first half of the slider

SuperMIC wrote:

3/3

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[Azure]

00:04:454 (4) - have this facing the other way? (like a ctrl+h sort of thing) kinda ruins my structure owo
00:05:297 (6) - the synth is now on the white tick, not the red one. I think the player should be clicking on the strong beat im mapping the background thing idk what its called
00:10:690 (6) - ^
00:16:084 (6) - ^
00:37:488 (1) - I think this should be spaced further away ahh idk how to do this one without fking up the previous pattern ;w;
00:41:365 (1,2,3,4) - I don't get why these are sliders instead of circles because there's nothing in the music on the blue ticks ;w; slider heads more emphasis :>
00:45:747 (2) - facing the other way? (same ctrl+h idea)
01:26:702 (1) - awkward flow from (3) to here, move it further right and maybe a little bit down? did something
01:30:999 (2) - i kind of think this should just be two circles because blue tick sliders suk prefer sliders here cuz theres two different drum sounds. same with the rest
01:59:559 - I recommend having this as a slider or a slider and a circle because sudden 1/3 can be unreadable ahha still debating for this one ><
02:37:572 (4) - same argument about two hitcircles instead
03:17:601 (1,2,3) - same 1/3 argument about readability
03:45:831 (2) - for some reason this plays better than the previous blue tick sliders but i still recommend two hitcircles
03:50:971 (1,2) - ctrl+g for better flow? ruins the consistency with the previous pattern.
04:58:808 (1,2,1,2) - eeeeeeeeeeee really suggest a circle and then 1/4 sliders on red/white ticks. at least the white tick 04:59:314 (2) ends on should be clicked on ok
05:20:297 (1,2,3) - same 1/3 thing
06:01:758 (1,2,3) - flow should really have you going from (1) to (3)'s position. Basically ctrl+g (2) and (3) then respace?
06:14:567 (6) - maybe for stronger effect have this as two stacked 1/1 hitcircles? ok, but i didnt stack

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cool map! and im done

-SMIC

Shiirn wrote:

Suggestions
Major suggestions
Aesthetic suggestions
Unrankable issues

Azure

1. 00:41:365 (1,2,3,4) - The scaled spacing of these can cause players to misread (3). maybe flip 2 to make the difference more apparent. ye
2. 00:49:202 (2,3) - Even spacing from the previous and next notes yet different timing. Hard to read. Move it closer to (1). spaced out the next notes instead
3. 00:55:522 (7) - no reason for sv change? you do this a few times its for the wubby sounds, but i significantly nerfed the sv change
4. 01:16:421 (3) - ridiculously high spacing considering what you normally do, seems more of an oversight than intended play nerfed
5. 01:47:432 (1,2,3) - these aren't triangular, if you care adjusted a bit, same with the other
6. 02:34:623 (3) - ctrl + g this so that 4 isn't ridiculously far away and 100 bait? also lets this be a jump and flow snap from 2->3.
7. 04:31:758 (2) - this entire section, i understand the whole "scaling distance" thing but this starts to really overkill it especially since the highest point isn't at the end, but this particular note here. nerfed some of the larger ones by a good amount
8. 04:43:050 (4) - nvm this is a tiny bit higher but its also far later and actually pointed at by a slider so ok
9. 05:08:331 (1,2,3) - ew triangle again
10. 05:24:511 (4,5) - these aren't parallel if they were meant to be did something
11. 06:06:814 (1) - deserves a click on the end, don't you think? it's the high pitch of the pattern. the way i have it gives a better structure imo, it can work.
12. 06:12:207 (1) - ^

Jebok wrote:

From my modding queue. There is little I can mod in a map that I can't play due to the difficulty but hopefully you'll find something from here helpful in improving your map. If its simply not enough that I put on the table, no need for kudos.

[Azure]
Shouldn't make jumps bigger than 4.5x unless they really worth addressing. Don't make casual bits of the song with huge spacing of x5 and such.
01:13:724 - Remove NC and place NC at 01:14:061 instead. these nc make sense to me, also seperates the antijump
01:15:072 - Remove NC and place NC at 01:15:578 instead.
01:24:511 (1) - Place the end closer to (2). Next circle at around 3.0 - 3.2 spacing feels better. not sure what u mean about the 2nd part cuz if i place it close to 2 its gunna have further spacing but done i think?
01:27:039 - Remove NC there is literally nothing that happens to make you put new combo here. It shouldn't be about nice colour schemes... its more about seperating the pattern here.
01:29:735 - ^
02:17:938 (1) - Take it out of completely under (7). Maybe x:264 y:344
02:57:039 - To many combos in this bit. Groups of 4 circle or 2 circles and a slider look much better and make more sense to the player. That would be no NC at fallowing points: 02:57:376, 02:58:050, 02:58:724, 02:59:398, 03:00:072, 03:00:747, 03:01:421 . for better readability on the back and forth patterns
03:11:870 (1,3) - No whistle at (1) but add a whistle at (3).
04:59:230 - No NC. to seperate the 2 slider sections.
05:27:039 - ^

Wow that's done. Hope you found that useful and you considered every change. Good luck!

• [Azure]

1. try OD8.5 instead of OD7 since is 5.92 ★
2. 00:47:769 (2) - move to 192 368 to consist the spacing 00:48:022 (3,4,5,1) -
3. 01:07:741 (5) - delete, here doesnt really got a beat tho
4. 01:10:690 (1) - well this sound really weird imo although you add a hs on it, since you are matching the beat so i think the slider should be at 01:10:522 -
5. 01:33:275 (5,6,1) - since you are match vocal here so i think here shouldnt be a triplet
6. 01:47:432 (1,2,3,1) - there doesnt got a beat at sliderend so i think you should mute it
7. 02:39:005 (1) - move to 214 312 to consist the spacing with 02:38:836 (5,6) -
8. 02:58:050 (1,1,1) - mute on sliderend
9. 03:05:634 (1,2,3,1) - same with 01:47:432 (1,2,3,1) -
10. 04:39:174 (5,6) - make spacing bigger, im modding this cause you do the same thing at 04:28:387 (3,4) - 04:33:780 (3,4) -
11. 05:08:331 (1,2,3,1) - same with 01:47:432 (1,2,3,1) -
12. 05:27:039 (1,2) - well the spacing here should be smaller then 05:26:702 (1,2) - cause the electric guitar that you are matching got lower tone
13. 05:28:218 (2,3) - same here
14. 05:44:230 (5) - NC this instead of 05:44:398 (1) -
15. 05:51:308 (3,4) - awkward spacing imo, try to consist the spacing with the previous pattern
16. 06:06:814 (1) - i prefer 2 notes instead of a 1/1 slider
17. 06:12:207 (1) - ^
18. 06:14:904 (2) - NC here instead of NC at 06:14:567 (1) -