1. Everlasting Snow (5,17 stars, 1617 notes)

1. 00:35:197 (1) - No NC for consistency with 00:40:667 (2,3) -
2. 00:36:609 (3,4,5,6) - shiet this is just really hard to read and i still cant acc it even after looking at the editor lol. i think the problem is 3,4 is right next to each other but 5,6 is a jump when we are expecting something similar. also I think 00:36:961 (5) - sounds like it should be 1/12, but the way it is right now makes it even weaker than 00:36:609 (3) - . Heres some suggestions http://puu.sh/mQ9ta/25b77a3fbc.jpg or http://puu.sh/mQ9vA/e32d0bbe0a.jpg
3. 00:42:256 (2,3,4,5) - ^
4. 00:59:903 (6) - it should be closer to 00:59:020 (2) - right?
5. 01:29:903 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - try splitting the NCs like this to make it easier to read http://puu.sh/mQaBf/f232801c9d.jpg
6. 01:30:079 (2,3,2,3) - its not in a perfectly straight line btw, idk if that was intentional
7. 01:34:138 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - NC on 01:34:138 - and 01:35:550 - instead
8. 01:53:903 - errr theres not much consistency between the patterns in this section... like when im playing i have no idea what to expect and that shouldnt be the case when the music is actually very similar. Lets compare 01:54:432 (4,5,6) - 02:00:079 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:05:726 (4,5,6,7,8) - 02:11:197 (3,4,5) - Maybe you can try alternating between stuff like this http://puu.sh/mQcqk/0ae3b931e6.jpg but right now its this http://puu.sh/mQcrx/c355b84931.jpg and that's too much of a difference imo. I guess this appears in a lot of places in the map so I won't mention it anymore lol
9. 02:06:256 (8) - you can move to x244y61 to make a perfect triangle with 02:05:903 (6,7) -
10. 02:10:314 (7,8) - try moving 8 a little closer. maybe you can even blanket with 02:11:020 (2) -
11. 03:00:256 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as 01:29:903 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) -
12. 03:01:491 (3,1) - this jump is huge and possibly unintentional idk
13. 04:09:432 - this part is really fun, well done!

eeezzzeee wrote:

Hi guy

[Everlasting Snow]

1. 00:35:197 (1) - No NC for consistency with 00:40:667 (2,3) - Yep, indeed. Re-arranged the whole NC pattern for the section since it was a bit misleading
2. 00:36:609 (3,4,5,6) - shiet this is just really hard to read and i still cant acc it even after looking at the editor lol. i think the problem is 3,4 is right next to each other but 5,6 is a jump when we are expecting something similar. also I think 00:36:961 (5) - sounds like it should be 1/12, but the way it is right now makes it even weaker than 00:36:609 (3) - . Heres some suggestions http://puu.sh/mQ9ta/25b77a3fbc.jpg or http://puu.sh/mQ9vA/e32d0bbe0a.jpg ok, I know this is a bit confusing, but there is a logic behind it: firstly, I used only 1/8 sliders on this part for playability matters (the 1/8 jump is the least time to acc this), secondly, these 1/8 sliders have to be read in 2 ways: where they are one close to each other you have to play them like 00:20:726 (1,2,1,2) - and while there is a jump between 2 of them or after one of them, you have to play them as 1/4 slider jumps, since I removed one repeat for that purpose. Lastly, the difference between 1/8 and 1/12 isn't noticeable in game imo and seeing that the player doesn't have to click on each beat it doesn't even matter
3. 00:42:256 (2,3,4,5) - ^ ^ Also, I confess I tried to make it a bit hard to read but I can ensure it makes sense (I'm able to play it fine and I'm a scrub fssss
4. 00:59:903 (6) - it should be closer to 00:59:020 (2) - right? Moved 2 closer to 6, since I wanted to keep the triangle 00:59:550 (4,5,6) -
5. 01:29:903 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - try splitting the NCs like this to make it easier to read http://puu.sh/mQaBf/f232801c9d.jpg Sure~
6. 01:30:079 (2,3,2,3) - its not in a perfectly straight line btw, idk if that was intentional lol, never noticed. Tried to fix them
7. 01:34:138 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - NC on 01:34:138 - and 01:35:550 - instead Nice
8. 01:53:903 - errr theres not much consistency between the patterns in this section... like when im playing i have no idea what to expect and that shouldnt be the case when the music is actually very similar. Lets compare 01:54:432 (4,5,6) - 02:00:079 (3,4,5,6,7) - 02:05:726 (4,5,6,7,8) - 02:11:197 (3,4,5) - Maybe you can try alternating between stuff like this http://puu.sh/mQcqk/0ae3b931e6.jpg but right now its this http://puu.sh/mQcrx/c355b84931.jpg and that's too much of a difference imo. I guess this appears in a lot of places in the map so I won't mention it anymore lol ok, I do understand your worries and I noticed that too, but while mapping this I wanted to make it less boring to play since, well... the song has basically 2 parts repeated 3 times each lol (kiai and pre-kiai). Seeing the parts involved in this thing, I'd probably have to re-map quite a while (which I'd rather avoid xD).
   In general, I tried to testplay like each 3 seconds of new mapping while editing and it looked fine for me (the BPM is low too so there isn't that much of a surprise if the pattern changes I guess These noobs have to learn how2read :^)))))
9. 02:06:256 (8) - you can move to x244y61 to make a perfect triangle with 02:05:903 (6,7) - I dunno why, but it seems less cute if I move it up there lol
10. 02:10:314 (7,8) - try moving 8 a little closer. maybe you can even blanket with 02:11:020 (2) - yeah, sure. I like it
11. 03:00:256 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as 01:29:903 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - rip triangle ;w; Fixed
12. 03:01:491 (3,1) - this jump is huge and possibly unintentional idk totally intentional, but I may have overdid it loooool
13. 04:09:432 - this part is really fun, well done! >~<

Sorry I didn't have much time so its kinda rushed mod. My main gripe about this map is still the alternating between 3 and 7 note rhythm
Anyway, feel free to ask me if anything needs to be explained Don't worry, I actually appreciate you took the time to take a look at it <3

Good luck!

MrSergio wrote:

These noobs have to learn how2read :^)))))

Rohit6 wrote:

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[Everlasting Snow]

HP6 pls i died like thrice before i finally passed,7 is too high for a marathon and that 1/8 rhythm section Alright, I guess that's a bit too much lol

00:04:491 (1,2,1) , 00:11:550 (1,2,1) - very confusing spacing when you're sightreading,also there are no indicators whether the distance is 1/2 or 1/4 :s damn, you already told me that (or someone else) and I was trying to figure it out, but still nothing. I'll see what I can do since this really looks like a problem (even tho, I do not change slider velocity which may hint to this kind of rhythm)

00:25:667 (4,5) , 00:35:903 (5,6) - confusing because youre ignoring the distorted vocals on 00:25:976 (listen at 25-50%) but playing them 00:25:800 - ,either make both double reverse arrows(preferable) or single reverse arrows for better playability ,also if you could make them oppose each other so you could get a mini back and forth would be great because the line stuff feels meh right now , this goes for all the sections where you've done this , the back and forth is optional but the missing 1/8 tick really needs to be fixed
I kinda tried to explain this on the mod above and that part is indeed intentional. Reason: if I keep that last repeat the player has no time for the jump (unless he wants to get a 100, but in this case I am the one not wanting such thing), therefore I can't map the jump as I wanted.
Seeing that in both cases the player doesn't have to click on that last beat I think there is no problem.
I did consider in the past using just one slider but it came out too meh since all the movement goes to hell.
To be sure I'll be discussing this with a QAT/BN, but in general I think I can choose which beats I can map and which not xP

SPOILER

00:27:256 (4,5) - this stack plays kinda bad because you're restricting movement from a weak->strong beat which ideally should be high but this kills momentum , also the beats arent similar because 4 is on a kick and 5 is on a snare so i dont think you should stack here honestly
Ugh, really valid point. Mostly because I do exactly what you're saying for 00:32:020 (1,2,3,4,5) - and so on.
Re-arranged trying to emulate the other similar patterns

Problematic stacks

00:29:197 (1,2) - this, as well as most of these mentioned stacks, is consistent, so I think they're fine here
00:34:844 (1,2) - ^
00:36:256 (1,2) - ^
00:37:667 (1,2) - could delete the 2nd circle here for easy fix I'd make all the movement die with an awful spacing after it, nah
00:40:491 (1,2) -
I know most stacks are on the downbeat in the first kiai but they play like ass, otherwise the kiai is pretty nice, i love the 1/8
01:31:314 (1,2) - but it isn't stacked .-.
01:48:432 (2,3) - ^ oh wait, you're talking about the stack with previous objects. In that case they're fine: people need how2read :^)
02:55:667 (7,8) - ^
03:35:550 (1,2) - ^
04:29:197 (1,2) - ^
04:31:667 (4,5) - ^
05:05:903 (1,2) - ^

00:56:197 (3,4) - {could convert this to a kickslider for vocal emphasis} That note in particular has a graver pitch in vocals, that's why I skipped the kickslider there

01:44:903 (1,2,3) - 1->2 is a tad bit high can place 2 at x:160 y:373 Reduced the jump, but not exactly towards the direction you suggested since it kinda ruined the 3 --> 1 passage later on

02:24:256 (4,5,6) - pls what is this ds in a slow part lol, I was trying to make it similar to the first part but it is indeed meh. changed

02:26:550 (3,4) - sAme as 00:56:197 (3,4) Same ^

03:01:314 (1,2) - do the same thing 01:30:961 (1,2) - here Yeah, nice one

03:09:609 (1,2,3) - increase ds to match other 1-2-3 back and forths yessir

03:16:667 (5,6,7) - i know its a tempting blanket but reduce ds pls sure~ (I also kept the blanket, Im a genius :^))))

04:04:314 (2,1,2) - this jump plays bad because of linear angles , should do a different pattern but i cant come up with anything lol same lol. I'll see if I can patch it up

Rest is okay but I think you could improve visuals by more symmetry in distance between objects , it plays well most of the times.
I love the 1/8 parts <3

Rhythm Frienemy wrote:

Everlasting Snow

00:35:903 (5,6) - this is really hard to read in relation to 00:35:726 (4) - circle moved a bit 4
00:36:609 (1,2,3) - this is so hard to read..... i think its too close with each other but idk nope, this one is fine, since it isn't the first nor the last one :3
01:48:609 (3) - can you create a new combo here ? it helps to read the next part NCs based on vocals. Also the patterning follows the combo-ing
02:12:873 (4) - same not on a blue tick lol
03:41:726 (4) - same consistency with the rest
04:17:373 (8,9) - jump way too large in my opinion most energetic part needs more jumps :3
04:29:814 (4) - can you create new combo here? again, not on the blue tick lol
04:41:550 (7,1) - jump a little too large ? it exits my peripheral vision 10k players can still keep up with it tho :/

adding more combos would help noobs read the hard parts of the song, but flow is exceptionally good anyhow. GL getting this song ranked !

1. 00:01:491 (4,4) - I don't really like these, bad for flow imo
2. 00:07:138 (4) - why this sudden space?
3. 00:17:903 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - raise of spacing here is a bit inconsistent
4. 00:19:314 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - and here jumps become smaller onwards, but still music intesfies
5. 00:26:020 (1,2) - overlap that isn't really noticable while playing but it still disturbs me pretty much..
6. 00:28:138 (3,4) - 00:29:197 (1,2) - why no proper stack?
7. 00:34:491 (1) - sound better to me if this would be 1/1 slider
8. 00:44:373 (7) - It's not really pretty to have like one over 10 combo in a map so I'd NC this
9. 00:46:667 (2,4) - why no proper stack
10. 01:06:961 (10) - same as before, I'd NC one or other note from this combo because lonesome over 10 combos are not pretty, same for all other over 10 combos, there might not be any kind of method to "fix" them but for me they aren't really pretty
11. 01:20:726 (5,6) - these curve a bit too much imo
12. 01:34:491 (2,6) - I'd probably stack these
13. 01:46:844 (1,4) - overlap which caught my eye, not necessary to fix but consider
14. 02:11:638 (6) - last anchor to x:426 y:103 for perfect blanket
15. 02:13:138 (6) - too curved imo
16. 02:15:609 (6) - x:249 y:234 if you want this slider to be like part of that stream earlier
17. 02:37:314 (10) - lonesome 10 combo
18. 03:11:903 (4) - a bit lame to be just a straight imo
19. 03:12:785 (3) - why no stack with 2
20. 03:58:756 (4,5,6,7) - curved stream could be better by then being consistent with slider
21. 04:10:137 (7) - NC would fit here
22. 04:11:549 (7) - ^
23. 04:15:785 (7) - ^ I'm not gonna point them all out but I think that you got my point
24. 04:31:314 (2) - hidden rep arrow, dunno might come as a surprise to someone
25. 04:58:138 (6) - NC maybe, preventing over 10 combo
26. 05:01:138 (7,1) - overlap
27. 05:16:667 (2) - curves too much imo and that slight overlap with stream
28. 05:17:197 (1) - lower volume here?
29. 05:28:491 (1) - ^
30. 05:27:079 (1,2) - Use same y coordinate?

1. 00:04:491 (1,2) - were mentioned in one of the first mods already but I still find it very hard to read, there hasn't been a straight 1/1-or 1/2-slider that you could compare it to so it just looks like it's 1/1, and it seems very forced to play anyways, soo dunno, overlapping them would really be a lot easier, and since you have rather much overlapping in the later map I don't think it would look off or anything like that. same for 00:11:550 (1,2) - obv
   Generally for the very intro it confuses me a bit that 00:00:961 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) are so smooth to play but 00:06:609 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) have sharp jumps although they're pretty much equivalent, and 00:04:138 (2,3) plays harsh too while 00:05:373 (2,3) is pretty smooth since slider lenince and no need to change direction at the head of (3), so it just all seems a bit imbalanced
2. 00:19:314 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Why aren't those increasing anymore, and starting lower-spaced than 00:18:961 (1,2) - ? To me it seems like the music continues to intensify (in case you continue increasing it, maybe a sliiiight SV-increade at 00:20:726 (1,2,1,2) would be cool too?)
3. 00:28:138 (3,4,1) - I'm not sure if 'hiding' a circle after a 1/8-slider is good bc you need to make very quick movements to avoid sliderbreaking, and if the next note isn't clearly visisble immeadiately that might be a bit difficult - I generally don't really get your stacking-system bc for example 00:32:373 (2,4) is shifted when other stacks of the same interval are completely stacked, but I guess in cases like that it would be better to shift it
4. 00:46:138 (1,3) - This overlap is kinda lonely bc the next of its sort happens at 00:52:314 (2,4) which is kinda far away, so I'd suggest adding one more of them earlier so it doesn't seem like it's an accident ^^
5. 00:59:020 (2,3,4,5,6) - Since the patterns there are kinda symmetric or straight-forward (dunno how to call it) I'd suggest moving (6) to around 87|370 so (4) and (6) have the same distance to (2), or are symmetric along the (1,2)-axis or something like that
6. 01:11:550 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,1) - The low spacing here, with just two jumps, is pretty much contrary to 01:13:491 (3,4,5,6,1) with a lot of sliderjumps with awkward direction changes, seems very imbalanced. Also, 01:12:432 (8,9) holy moly that's huge - how about something like [url=http://puu.sh/ngFwo/9de812ae5c.jpg this[/url] for this combo?
7. 01:41:197 (2,3,4) - spacing and sharp direction turn on (4) seems a bit much, I don't hear anything particularly stronger on (4) than on (3) so I'd suggest spacing them similarly
8. 01:31:314 (1,2,3) - Seems very low compared to equivalent patterns like 01:32:726 (1,2,3) - 01:36:961 (1,2,3) - 01:38:373 (1,2,3) -
9. 01:48:256 (1,2,3) - 01:49:667 (1,2,3) - You usually emphasize the upbeats more, but here the offbeats are higher spaced than the upbeats, why?
10. 01:55:667 (3) - 02:01:314 (3) - I think the whislte on the tail is missing. Also at 02:02:991 (4,5,6,7) -? also 03:17:903 (5) - better check all those sections again (also 05:03:697 (4) - and 05:07:844 -, just listing what I randomly notice ^^)
    
11. The whistles at 02:19:491 - 02:20:903 - 02:31:138 seem pretty random / inconsistent with their equivalent secitons o:
12. 01:30:079 (2,3) - is way more spaced than 01:30:608 (2,3) - O: also, these jumps in general are imo a bit too big bc as a player I expect to play them like the 1/8s where you had 1/4 to jump, but here it's only 1/6 but some have even higher spacings than the 1/8 ones, why? same for 03:00:432 (2,3,2,3) -
13. 00:25:844 (5,1) - 00:39:785 (3,4) - 00:41:726 (6,1) - all other 1/8-sliderjumps have a maximum of three visible followpoints between them while those have four, consider nerfing them
14. 03:59:197 (8,9) - why is this one spaced when the others are either stacked 04:02:020 (8,9) - 04:03:432 (8,9) - or a slider 04:00:609 (8) -?
15. 04:03:785 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - uuuh keep it similar to the one before the very first Kiai? They are increasing and then going back there, but here it's constantly the same spacing o:
16. 04:47:550 (1,2) - I don't think you stacked anything else in these Kiais, at least not the equivalent section of this, so space them out too
17. 05:23:197 (3,4) - again you didn't stack those at 05:17:550 (2,3) -
18. 05:32:373 (3,4) - same for these although in a calmer section, I think making them like this would work great again