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Cardboard Box - The Limit Does Not Exist [OsuMania]

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NlHIL
[Normal]
np
[Hard]
01:52:976 - 01:53:322 - add a note at centre?
[Insane]
np
[Another]
np
[ε-δ]
np
[Ijinjin]
...take my star
Kamikaze
IRC modding on Infinity
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18:39 iJinjin: feel free to do any diffs :v
18:39 -Kamikaze-: ok hi
18:39 -Kamikaze-: I'll do infinity but I wanna take a look at it first
18:39 iJinjin: herro
18:40 iJinjin: brb bathroom
18:41 -Kamikaze-: btw I hate you for haelequin bursts
18:41 -Kamikaze-: fuck you
18:42 iJinjin: back
18:42 iJinjin: <
18:42 -Kamikaze-: ok this is gay
18:42 iJinjin: wait wat haelequin bursts
18:42 iJinjin: :v
18:42 -Kamikaze-: the end ones
18:42 -Kamikaze-: end of chordstream and later
18:42 -Kamikaze-: those are all gay
18:43 -Kamikaze-: and you are gay
18:43 -Kamikaze-: gaaaaaaaay
18:43 -Kamikaze-: All timing sections have a volume below 5%.
18:43 iJinjin: thanks ' w'
18:43 -Kamikaze-: Audio bitrate is lower than 128kbps. Consider finding a better quality source.
18:43 -Kamikaze-: smhtbh
18:43 iJinjin: ;_;
18:43 -Kamikaze-: ok first section
18:43 -Kamikaze-: why aren't you accenting bass properly
18:44 iJinjin: mmmm
18:44 -Kamikaze-: like 00:01:861 - this should be more notes than 00:02:091 (2091|4,2091|5) -
18:45 iJinjin: i kinda thought of it as like
18:45 -Kamikaze-: ok I sorta get it now but still
18:45 -Kamikaze-: the clap thingy is way quieter/less noticeable
18:45 iJinjin: one note for bass, one note for that hihat sound or whatever it is, and one for the tune
18:45 iJinjin: yeah
18:45 -Kamikaze-: would like bass being accented more because it's the most prominent sound
18:46 -Kamikaze-: or at least second after the tune
18:46 -Kamikaze-: but tune is quite weak
18:46 iJinjin: ill consider it :p
18:46 iJinjin: probably gonna add one more note at
18:46 iJinjin: 00:01:861 - and places similar to these parts
18:47 -Kamikaze-: that's what I wanted to suggest tbh
18:47 iJinjin: one
18:47 iJinjin: done
18:47 -Kamikaze-: 00:06:245 (6245|2,6245|6,6245|0) - why triple
18:47 iJinjin: o baby a triple!!
18:47 iJinjin: i forgot to delete one note from there
18:48 -Kamikaze-: o
18:48 iJinjin: thanks for pointing that out
18:48 -Kamikaze-: go do it
18:48 iJinjin: 'w'
18:48 -Kamikaze-: yay
18:48 -Kamikaze-: ' w'
18:48 iJinjin: yup
18:48 -Kamikaze-: 00:07:399 (7399|0,7438|1,7476|2) - ok you may already know this but wrong snap fam
18:48 -Kamikaze-: there's like 5 or more sounds there
18:48 -Kamikaze-: also red tick does sound like it has a separate sound
18:48 iJinjin: i talked to zenny and fullerene about this, yeah
18:49 iJinjin: the snap is 1/12 with 5 notes, and then a note following shortly after (which goes on the red tick)
18:49 iJinjin: but when i testplayed it, it felt too clumped
18:49 -Kamikaze-: makes sense
18:49 iJinjin: so i decided to map it to 1/6 for emphasis on the roll instead
18:49 -Kamikaze-: would adding a note on red tick be a problem?
18:50 -Kamikaze-: not sure how that would play tho
18:50 iJinjin: tried that too
18:50 -Kamikaze-: wait no I have another idea
18:50 -Kamikaze-: or rather thing to point out
18:50 iJinjin: wew
18:50 -Kamikaze-: you map those rolls in groups of three per one repetition
18:51 -Kamikaze-: example 00:07:399 (7399|0,7438|1,7476|2,7745|0,7784|1,7822|2,8091|0,8130|1,8168|2) -
18:51 iJinjin: right
18:51 -Kamikaze-: but from what I hear, first roll is lower pitch than other two
18:51 -Kamikaze-: so I thought you might move two others 1 right or left
18:51 -Kamikaze-: depends where they are
18:51 iJinjin: all rolls are same pitch, it's just the note on the red tick (that i chose not to map) that's different
18:52 iJinjin: lol
18:52 iJinjin: but yeah
18:52 -Kamikaze-: oh maybe
18:52 iJinjin: it would be nice to emphasize that instead on the rolls
18:52 iJinjin: i'll think about it
18:53 -Kamikaze-: 00:07:399 (7399|0,7438|1,7476|2,7745|0,7784|1,7822|2,8091|0,8130|1,8168|2) - quite an awkward pause there between those streams and chords
18:53 -Kamikaze-: oops
18:53 -Kamikaze-: my c key is broken
18:53 -Kamikaze-: aaa
18:53 -Kamikaze-: 00:12:188 -
18:53 -Kamikaze-: considering that you map 1/4 just before chords, you should map it also after
18:55 iJinjin: to be honest i wanted to emphasize the bass on that part
18:55 iJinjin: the pause is barely noticeable on 260 bpm too ;_;
18:55 iJinjin: i'll take your consideration tho
18:55 -Kamikaze-: yes I know, but that still sounds awkward
18:55 iJinjin: prob tomorrow
18:55 -Kamikaze-: oki
18:55 -Kamikaze-: 00:46:803 - PSI-m i s s i n g
18:55 iJinjin: atm i prob won't be making too many edits since i wanna testplay things that i fix
18:55 -Kamikaze-: okay
18:55 iJinjin: but my roommate is asleep kek
18:56 iJinjin: o whoa
18:56 iJinjin: didn't notice that
18:56 iJinjin: lmaoooo
18:56 iJinjin: gg
18:56 -Kamikaze-: kek
18:56 -Kamikaze-: #kami4qat
18:57 -Kamikaze-: 00:48:015 (48015|5,48015|4,48072|1,48072|2,48130|4,48130|5,48188|1,48188|2,48245|4,48245|6,48303|0,48303|2,48361|6,48361|4,48418|0,48418|2) - considering how tune plays I think that minijacking those would be way better than trills
18:57 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/lxdXi/267ce2bb6b.png
18:57 iJinjin: too fast :<
18:58 -Kamikaze-: wow do you seriously care about players
18:58 -Kamikaze-: pls it's all about pp
18:58 iJinjin: i care about players pls :v
18:58 -Kamikaze-: also that short of a section shouldn't be too hard
18:59 -Kamikaze-: it's not even half a second lol
18:59 iJinjin: okay :p
18:59 iJinjin: changed to minijacks
18:59 -Kamikaze-: yay
18:59 -Kamikaze-: tbh that will just be a short vibro burst so it's all about control
19:00 iJinjin: yeah i guess so
19:01 -Kamikaze-: 01:17:553 - tune here is quite weak so I suggest mapping one noters, add LN for background thing and start adding notes from around 01:18:938 - where bass kicks in
19:01 iJinjin: good idea
19:02 -Kamikaze-: 01:29:438 (89438|1,89553|1) - wow gross
19:02 -Kamikaze-: 01:31:284 (91284|0,91399|0) - wow even more gross
19:02 -Kamikaze-: 01:33:188 (93188|0,93303|0) - smh
19:02 iJinjin: yeah those parts are kinda iffy
19:03 iJinjin: i remapped those parts like 3 times at least
19:03 iJinjin: for now that's the best i can do
19:03 iJinjin: but i'll try finding better flowing patterns
19:03 -Kamikaze-: yeah I imagine it's very hard to find a perfect pattern
19:03 -Kamikaze-: 01:49:861 - fml those LNs made me lose my ss - _ -
19:04 -Kamikaze-: 01:52:630 - 6 01:52:861 (112861|1,112861|5,112861|0,112861|6,112976|5,112976|6,112976|0,112976|1,113207|6,113207|5,113207|0,113207|1,113322|5,113322|0,113322|6,113322|1) - 4 01:53:553 (113553|6,113553|0,113553|4,113553|1,113553|5) - 5
19:04 -Kamikaze-: pls
19:05 iJinjin: if you're hitting them like you hit normal jumptrills the accuracy stays virtually the same due to really high bpm
19:05 -Kamikaze-: would agree when first would be 4
19:05 iJinjin: the short lns there are just visualizations of
19:05 iJinjin: the
19:05 iJinjin: uh
19:05 iJinjin: chiptune notes
19:05 -Kamikaze-: it's a prank bro
19:05 iJinjin: o
19:05 iJinjin: wew
19:06 iJinjin: wait so what were you suggesting at the end
19:06 iJinjin: the amount of notes in the chord?
19:06 -Kamikaze-: yeah
19:06 -Kamikaze-: sounds are like
19:06 iJinjin: or column placement
19:06 -Kamikaze-: same
19:06 -Kamikaze-: maybe last is a bit stronger
19:06 -Kamikaze-: o wait first is 5 not 6
19:06 iJinjin: now that i hear it
19:06 iJinjin: i should emphasize
19:06 -Kamikaze-: sry can't count
19:06 iJinjin: yeah first is
19:07 iJinjin: jj
19:07 -Kamikaze-: but still it's the exact same sound as rest of 4's
19:07 -Kamikaze-: unless the scratch note sound is diffrent
19:08 -Kamikaze-: I forgot what the sound is called but it's like always on scratch in bms
19:08 iJinjin: but i want to be like zenny and make the same chords have different amount of notes ;_;
19:08 iJinjin: jk
19:08 -Kamikaze-: overchorded
19:08 -Kamikaze-: unrankable
19:08 -Kamikaze-: nuked
19:08 iJinjin: or
19:08 iJinjin: i can
19:08 iJinjin: add a note to
19:08 iJinjin: 01:52:976 and 01:53:322
19:08 iJinjin: since they seem to be more accented
19:08 iJinjin: than the same chord 2 ticks ago
19:09 -Kamikaze-: ye the scratch note sound
19:09 iJinjin: ooo that's the scratchy scratchy
19:09 iJinjin: okie
19:09 -Kamikaze-: fuck what was it called
19:09 iJinjin: actually
19:09 -Kamikaze-: not crash
19:09 -Kamikaze-: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
19:09 iJinjin: maybe it's best to leave it as is
19:09 -Kamikaze-: delete one from first then
19:09 iJinjin: cuz the patterns get pretty awkwards
19:09 -Kamikaze-: consistency fam
19:10 iJinjin: okie
19:10 iJinjin: deleted
19:10 -Kamikaze-: wheee
19:10 iJinjin: yay we're done
19:10 iJinjin: im actually pretty tired now
19:10 -Kamikaze-: fastmodding
19:10 iJinjin: jeajajaieaiejuajuae
19:10 -Kamikaze-: hehehehe
19:10 iJinjin: savelog and i gib u your kids
19:10 iJinjin: kds
19:10 -Kamikaze-: oki 'w '
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Okoratu wrote:

your last 2 diffnames aren't really speaking to me, if you don't know that ε-δ definition of limit
considering the average age of an osu player to be around 14 and this somewhat advanced mathematical concepts i don't think many are going to understand your diffname and intention behind that unless they had calculus

yea very unlikely at 14 lol (i think there was a public survey and the avg age turned out to be around that which is why we have these strict nsfw rules anyways)

so tldr the above: They do make sense, but:
Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player.
right now your diffnaming makes a lot of sense (smartass actually) but only if you are aware what epsilon-delta is in the first place and so it might not be very clear to everyone who didn't have calculus?_?

does that make sense
yup it does make sense to me, I can simply revert the diff name to 'Extra' but i might keep ε-δ for a while :p (or another solution could be using terms that may be more familiar to a wider audience without having the knowledge of calculus, for example, "unbounded")

NlHIL wrote:

[Normal]
np
[Hard]
01:52:976 - 01:53:322 - add a note at centre? Added for emphasis on the notes being more accented
[Insane]
np
[Another]
np
[ε-δ]
np
[Ijinjin]
...take my star
Thanks for the *really short* mod.. jej and thanks for star 'w'
Sern888
hype?!!!
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Sern888 wrote:

hype?!!!
hypeee
lenpai
Good lord we're having some chiptune getting ranked for mania.

Have my double derivative of 3x^2 stars
Akiyama Mizuki
pp에 한계 따윈 존재하지 않는다
Level 51
hi just thought i'd post this thing i noticed while playing owo
[ε-δ]
00:12:938 - add one note here for the bass sound?
01:12:015 - ^
moni
2nd maniera
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Level 51 wrote:

hi just thought i'd post this thing i noticed while playing owo
[ε-δ]
00:12:938 - add one note here for the bass sound?
01:12:015 - ^
still trying to see what pattern fits the best. I think 3 notes is good enough for this part, but we'll see ^^
Fullerene-
you crazy motherfucker

i like it
Torchic
I hope that this is getting ranked, I don't care how long it will take, I just want to see how much PP it will make. xD
Bendo Na Bendo
bublbbbblble plz. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Level 51

iJinjin wrote:

Level 51 wrote:

hi just thought i'd post this thing i noticed while playing owo
[ε-δ]
00:12:938 - add one note here for the bass sound?
01:12:015 - ^
still trying to see what pattern fits the best. I think 3 notes is good enough for this part, but we'll see ^^
haha when i was playing it that part only had 2 notes where the rest of the bass sounds had 3 each, so that's why i made those suggestions for consistency :P
puxtu
because we need more maniera ranked
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Level 51 wrote:

haha when i was playing it that part only had 2 notes where the rest of the bass sounds had 3 each, so that's why i made those suggestions for consistency :P
ooh woops, i was looking at the infinity diff instead of epsilon-delta diff when applying your mod LOL sorry ;w; fixed~
Rivals_7
aww
No "Easy" diff?
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Rivals_7 wrote:

aww
No "Easy" diff?
given the restrictive nature of this song (melody is fast, bpm is fast) it would be difficult to make a good 'easy' difficulty without limiting so many notes
DeletedUser_259972
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(┛◉Д◉)┛彡★★★


차라리 계단이였으면 나았을텐데

EDIT: 엡실론-델타가 무슨 뜻이죠? 수학이나 과학 그런건가요
iJXL
hypeeeeeeeeeee. iJinjin's limit does not exist! :)
DeletedUser_259972

iJXL wrote:

hypeeeeeeeeeee. iJinjin's limit does not exist! :)
That's the problem lol jk
Topic Starter
Jinjin

jakads wrote:

(멍)

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡★★★


차라리 계단이였으면 나았을텐데

EDIT: 엡실론-델타가 무슨 뜻이죠? 수학이나 과학 그런건가요
네 맞아요, 극한의 엄밀한 정의가 엡실론델타예요 ^^
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Also thank you everybody for the stars :)
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
[Infinity]

00:12:908 (12908|5,12908|6,12908|4) - PM에선 1개 지워도 괜찮다곤 했지만 솔직히 말하면 3개 다 지우는게 제일 좋은듯
저거 3개 지우고 안지우고 차이가 5% 넘게 갈리더라고요;

00:20:292 - ^


00:41:523 - 이부분 3,1,3,1 이런식보단 2,2,2,2 이런식이 더 치긴 편할듯 싶어요.
00:41:985 - ^
00:43:369 - ^
00:43:831 - ^

01:11:985 (71985|4,71985|6,71985|5) - 맨 위와 같은 이유

01:48:908 (108908|6) - 분할패턴에 이 노트는 조금 방해되지 않을까 싶은..
Topic Starter
Jinjin

__M A S__ wrote:

[Infinity]

00:12:908 (12908|5,12908|6,12908|4) - PM에선 1개 지워도 괜찮다곤 했지만 솔직히 말하면 3개 다 지우는게 제일 좋은듯
저거 3개 지우고 안지우고 차이가 5% 넘게 갈리더라고요;

00:20:292 - ^


00:41:523 - 이부분 3,1,3,1 이런식보단 2,2,2,2 이런식이 더 치긴 편할듯 싶어요.
00:41:985 - ^
00:43:369 - ^
00:43:831 - ^

01:11:985 (71985|4,71985|6,71985|5) - 맨 위와 같은 이유
시간 날 때 들어가서 수정하겠습니다 감사합니다 ^^
DeletedUser_259972
하라고 하셔서 하는 랜덤 모딩!

정말 쓸데 없지만 기본 모딩 폼은 맞출게요


Hi, iJinjin! :)

개어렵네요

그 한마디로 설명이 됩니다

맵이 꽤 어렵고
맵도 모딩 할 거리가 몇개 없고
7K 맵 제작은 안 해봐서
모딩이 쓰레기거나 깐깐할 수 있습니다

1|2|3|4|5|6|7


Overall



  1. BG:
  2. MP3:
  3. Diff Spread:
  4. AIMod:
  5. Hitsound:
  6. Timing:
  7. Etc:
다 맞네요

근데 그 mp3가 160kbps인건 처음 봤는데
랭킹 기준에 들어가겠죠..?

∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞

살려주세요

  1. 00:01:946 - 00:02:292 - 이렇게 빈 곳에 00:02:638 (2638|4) - 이 부분과 같은 소리가 나는 거 같아요. 노트 추가해주세요 (다른 부분들도 다)
    근데 일부러 맞추신 거 같은데 이유가 있으시다면 안 바꾸셔도 되옵니다
  2. 00:11:061 - ~ 00:14:754 - 이 부분을 계단으로 만드는 건 어떨까요? 더 헷갈릴 것 같다면 이 모딩 취소하시고 다음 모딩들 적용해주세요
  3. 00:12:504 (12504|3,12619|3) - 이런것들 더블로 되야 하지 않나요? (다른 부분들도)
  4. 00:11:985 (11985|6,11985|5,11985|4,12042|3,12100|1,12100|2,12100|0,12158|3,12215|6,12215|5,12215|4) - 여기 부분이 치기가 애매해요
    이렇게 바꾸는 건 어떠신지? (근데 5번째 줄에 의도치않게 연타가 생기네요.. 쨌든 이렇게 비슷하게 바꿔주세요)

    다른 부분들도 이렇게 바꿔주세요
  5. 00:41:581 - 위 위에 모딩처럼 더블로 만들어주세요 2에 추가
    00:41:696 - 1에 추가
    00:42:042 (42042|4,42158|5) - 똑같이
  6. 00:47:985 (47985|4,47985|5,48042|4,48042|5,48100|2,48100|1,48158|1,48158|2,48215|4,48215|6,48273|4,48273|6,48331|2,48331|0,48388|0,48388|2) - 흐엏 260BPM이라서 그런지 더 힘드네요 ㄷ; 연타 없애주시면 감사하겠습니다
  7. 깐깐 타임
  8. 01:24:792 - 더블로 만들어 주세요
    01:28:485 - ^
    01:32:523 - ^
  9. 01:28:715 (88715|2,88715|4) - 싱글로 만들어 주세요 (드럼이 살짝 들리긴 하는데 다른 부분에는 다 싱글이여서)
    01:30:908 (90908|6,90908|4) - ^
    01:31:831 (91831|2,91831|0) - ^
    01:33:677 (93677|0,93677|6) - ^
    01:34:600 (94600|6,94600|4) - ^
    01:35:177 (95177|4,95177|5) - ^
    01:35:523 (95523|4,95523|1) - ^
  10. 모딩 할 거리가 너무 없어서 쪼잔한 모딩
  11. 01:38:523 (98523|1) - 1로 옮겨주세요
  12. 01:45:100 (105100|2,105100|4,105100|1) - 여기 드럼이 안 들려서 트리플로 하기엔 너무 소리가 작은 것 같아요
  13. 01:48:908 - ~ 01:50:754 - ???!!!...

ε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δ

https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%97%A1 ... C%EB%B2%95
뭔 소린지 모릅니다
흑흑
Can't Defeat KAIST

  1. 00:06:331 (6331|2,6331|4) - 여기 싱글로!
  2. 00:51:677 (51677|4,51715|3,51754|2) - 이런 것들의 맨 끝에 (00:51:792 - ) 노트 하나 더 넣어도 크게 문제될 것 같진 않아요
  3. 01:45:158 - 여기 드럼 있으니깐 싱글보단 더블 혹은 트리플이 어울릴 것 같아요
  4. 01:49:831 - ~ 01:50:754 - 너무 힘들어욬ㅋㅋㅋ
    꼭 아래처럼만큼은 아니더라도 조금 섞는게 어떨까요?
모딩이 좀 허접해서 죄송합니다 ㅠㅠ
진진님에게 PM 와서 완전 깜짝 놀랐어요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

꼭 랭킹 가시길!
(1000pp의 기적을)
Topic Starter
Jinjin
오오오 자카드님 뭔가 모딩이 되게 퀄리티 높네요 ㄷㄷ ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
감사합니다 ㅠㅠ 시간날 때 마스님 모드랑 함께 apply하겠습니다 ^^
Topic Starter
Jinjin

__M A S__ wrote:

[Infinity]

00:12:908 (12908|5,12908|6,12908|4) - PM에선 1개 지워도 괜찮다곤 했지만 솔직히 말하면 3개 다 지우는게 제일 좋은듯
저거 3개 지우고 안지우고 차이가 5% 넘게 갈리더라고요; 일단 좀 더 괜찮은 패턴으로 바꿔보겠습니다 ㅠㅠ

00:20:292 - ^ ^

00:41:523 - 이부분 3,1,3,1 이런식보단 2,2,2,2 이런식이 더 치긴 편할듯 싶어요.
00:41:985 - ^
00:43:369 - ^
00:43:831 - ^
근데 일단 드럼이 들어가서;; 여기도 더 쉽게 바꾸겠습니다 (근데 결국엔 3-2-3-2 식으로 바꿨..)



01:11:985 (71985|4,71985|6,71985|5) - 맨 위와 같은 이유

01:48:908 (108908|6) - 분할패턴에 이 노트는 조금 방해되지 않을까 싶은.. 삭제했습니다~
모딩 감사합니다!>_<

jakads wrote:

근데 그 mp3가 160kbps인건 처음 봤는데
랭킹 기준에 들어가겠죠..? 네 이건 괜찮아요 ^^

∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞

살려주세요

  1. 00:01:946 - 00:02:292 - 이렇게 빈 곳에 00:02:638 (2638|4) - 이 부분과 같은 소리가 나는 거 같아요. 노트 추가해주세요 (다른 부분들도 다)
    근데 일부러 맞추신 거 같은데 이유가 있으시다면 안 바꾸셔도 되옵니다 일부러 추가를 안했습니다 ^^
  2. 00:11:061 - ~ 00:14:754 - 이 부분을 계단으로 만드는 건 어떨까요? 더 헷갈릴 것 같다면 이 모딩 취소하시고 다음 모딩들 적용해주세요
  3. 00:12:504 (12504|3,12619|3) - 이런것들 더블로 되야 하지 않나요? (다른 부분들도)
  4. 00:11:985 (11985|6,11985|5,11985|4,12042|3,12100|1,12100|2,12100|0,12158|3,12215|6,12215|5,12215|4) - 여기 부분이 치기가 애매해요
    이렇게 바꾸는 건 어떠신지? (근데 5번째 줄에 의도치않게 연타가 생기네요.. 쨌든 이렇게 비슷하게 바꿔주세요)

    다른 부분들도 이렇게 바꿔주세요 조금 더 원할한 패턴으로 바꿔보았습니다~ (근데 더 편할지는 저도 잘 모르겠....)
  5. 00:41:581 - 위 위에 모딩처럼 더블로 만들어주세요 2에 추가 추가!
    00:41:696 - 1에 추가
    00:42:042 (42042|4,42158|5) - 똑같이
  6. 00:47:985 (47985|4,47985|5,48042|4,48042|5,48100|2,48100|1,48158|1,48158|2,48215|4,48215|6,48273|4,48273|6,48331|2,48331|0,48388|0,48388|2) - 흐엏 260BPM이라서 그런지 더 힘드네요 ㄷ; 연타 없애주시면 감사하겠습니다 없앴습니다
  7. 깐깐 타임
  8. 01:24:792 - 더블로 만들어 주세요
    01:28:485 - ^
    01:32:523 - ^ 이부분은 다 적용했습니다~
  9. 01:28:715 (88715|2,88715|4) - 싱글로 만들어 주세요 (드럼이 살짝 들리긴 하는데 다른 부분에는 다 싱글이여서)
    01:30:908 (90908|6,90908|4) - ^
    01:31:831 (91831|2,91831|0) - ^
    01:33:677 (93677|0,93677|6) - ^
    01:34:600 (94600|6,94600|4) - ^
    01:35:177 (95177|4,95177|5) - ^
    01:35:523 (95523|4,95523|1) - ^
    제가 이부분에서 패턴을 짤 때 뒤로 갈수록 조금씩 난이도가 더 올라는 식으로 했어요 ㅋㅋ 그래서 전에는 없었던 드럼노트들이 조금씩 가면서 생기는 이펙트를 만들었어요 ㅠㅠ
  10. 모딩 할 거리가 너무 없어서 쪼잔한 모딩
  11. 01:38:523 (98523|1) - 1로 옮겨주세요 넵!
  12. 01:45:100 (105100|2,105100|4,105100|1) - 여기 드럼이 안 들려서 트리플로 하기엔 너무 소리가 작은 것 같아요 없앴습니다 ㅋㅋ
  13. 01:48:908 - ~ 01:50:754 - ???!!!... 흐릭 ㅠㅠ

ε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δε-δ

https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%97%A1 ... C%EB%B2%95
뭔 소린지 모릅니다
흑흑
Can't Defeat KAIST

  1. 00:06:331 (6331|2,6331|4) - 여기 싱글로! 넵!
  2. 00:51:677 (51677|4,51715|3,51754|2) - 이런 것들의 맨 끝에 (00:51:792 - ) 노트 하나 더 넣어도 크게 문제될 것 같진 않아요 동감입니다 ㅋㅋ
  3. 01:45:158 - 여기 드럼 있으니깐 싱글보단 더블 혹은 트리플이 어울릴 것 같아요 넵!
  4. 01:49:831 - ~ 01:50:754 - 너무 힘들어욬ㅋㅋㅋ
    꼭 아래처럼만큼은 아니더라도 조금 섞는게 어떨까요? 넵, 바꿨습니다~
모딩이 좀 허접해서 죄송합니다 ㅠㅠ
진진님에게 PM 와서 완전 깜짝 놀랐어요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 허접이라뇨 ㅠㅠ 이정도면 도움이 많이 됩니다 ㅎㅎ

꼭 랭킹 가시길!
(1000pp의 기적을) 감사합니다 ㅠㅠ
Aruel
Jinjin 의 pp 창조경제
Topic Starter
Jinjin

_FrEsH_ChICkEn_ wrote:

Jinjin 의 pp 창조경제
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snexe
break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp break pp
Mwallx
Actually I'm still waiting liar Pew's cancer lol
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Updated

Applied all the suggestions from Zenx's review
Shoegazer
bring back epsilon-delta 2015/2016
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Shoegazer wrote:

bring back epsilon-delta 2015/2016
Aaaa I want to ;_;
Shoegazer
To be fair I find "asymptotic" to be more cryptic than Epsilon-Delta, Epsilon-Delta is at least used in several forms of pop culture (and also BMS and that cute little 4K dan difficulty name). Asymptotic is mainly used for algorithm analysis in computer science and mathematical analysis in general. I don't think Epsilon-Delta is that cryptic; it is a bit difficult to understand but I find asymptotic to be far more of a niche concept because it's never actually used outside of the field of mathematics and a specific field in computer science.

At the very least, I think Extra is better than Asymptotic; I understand your intention of having the difficulty name "asymptotic" (approaching infinity) but it's still a pretty obscure term.

On a side note, this map looks kinda cool; keep breaking the star rating system. I'll break it in the other direction.
DeletedUser_259972
RIP ε-δ 2015

Epsilon-Delta 사라졌네요 ㅇㅅㅇ
난이도 이름 저렇게 유니크한것도 괜찮았던 것 같은데...

Infinitesimal 어떨까요?
어려운 난이도에 무한히 작은 걸 난이도 이름으로 하면 좀 아이러니하기는 한데
그냥 제안이에요 ㅋㅋ

(개인적으로 마니에라보다 이게 상대적으로 더 쉽네요 그나마)
LordRaika
Some check before bbbbbbb
BG :
Snap :
Audio :
Timing :
Spread :

Some Mod

Easy

  1. 01:47:292 (107292|4,107523|2,107754|4,107985|1,108215|5,108446|1,108677|5) - make them all burst? the trill is not balance imo, total of 7 note, u can burst it 7 times , ex : col 1 7 2 6 3 5 and 4

Normal

  1. 00:13:831 (13831|4) - to 7?
  2. 00:51:215 (51215|3) - i think this 5 hold is too much for normal? remove this one?
    the sound on the downbeat is also not really strong to be follow...
  3. 01:09:677 (69677|4,69677|5) - move this to left hand side?
  4. 01:31:946 (91946|4,92061|2,92177|4) - CTRL+H and 01:31:946 (91946|6) - delete,
    to make it like 01:24:561 -
    or something similar.... (i mean the total note)
  5. 01:53:292 (113292|0,113292|4,113292|2) - really prefer this to be 2 4 6 :)

Hard

  1. 00:18:792 (18792|4,19023|4) - this 2nd note should be somewhere at col 6 right?
    and so much things like this for the whole map(i mean exact same pattern, so if u made change, pls apply to all others >w<)
  2. 00:20:869 (20869|4) - yeah pretty much sure this section can have more interesting pattern <3
  3. 00:32:754 - really suggesting this for more comfortable play and pattern and less anchor point.
  4. 00:35:985 (35985|5,36331|4,36561|4) - honestly, this anchor point and trill is abit annoying...
  5. 00:45:100 (45100|1) - to 1?
  6. 00:59:985 (59985|1,60215|5,60446|1,60677|5) - to 3 , 6 , 2 , 5 pls , more hand balance
    01:01:831 - ^
  7. 01:02:754 (62754|4,63446|2,63677|6,63908|0,64369|0) - if possible this too
    i really prefer 1 hold for 1 hand, and the other hand press the note.
  8. 01:21:792 (81792|3,82138|3,82715|3) - to 2
  9. 01:37:138 (97138|6,97138|5,97369|4,97369|2,97600|0,97600|1) - the last one makes some uncomfortable anchor
    the first two double note, have the same pitch, so maybe u can rearrange them?
  10. 01:10:946 (70946|3) - this one is uhhh, how bout to 1 ?

Tristan97's Insane

  • Insane is perfectly my current skill, so this mod is based on both my mapping and performance terms.
    i found this pretty interesting but some pattern really throws me off...

    pls do not think im a bit harsh here, im doing my best to makes this insane as good as i would even love it myself. thats how i mod >w<
  1. first things first, it has too much anchor point, say... a normal note anchor point at this level would still be ok, BUT
    00:07:369 (7369|2,7600|2,7600|4,7715|4,7946|4) - things like this is really not consistent at all...
    its require more concentration to read it and jack it...
    .
    my own suggestion is to make them follow pitch perfectly, FEEL free to jack this with same pitch,
    i would love to play it as jack as well... and a single note then jack with short LN is also feels good
    but dont add the third mini jack after this short LN, its quite cancer....

    notice the jack, 1single note 1short LN, both on same pitch, it gives a really perfect feeling
    and the surroundings pattern doesnt mindblock by the anchor, at least its a different column.
  2. 00:09:561 (9561|2,9792|2) - .... :(
    00:09:561 (9561|2,9561|0) - WHY not swap the short LN to 1 , and single note to 3 ??
    that makes it perfect same pitch with 00:09:215 -
    and less anchor. (well, single note anchor is much much comfortable than short LN follow up with single note on same col)
  3. 00:12:446 (12446|5,12561|3,12677|2,12792|0) - drag them 1 col to the right
    so that the last two short LN is not the same column with 00:12:908 (12908|2,13023|0) - which doesnt have the same pitch
    so the trill doesnt feels weird here.
    00:19:831 (19831|5,19946|3,20061|2,20177|0) - ^
    00:41:985 (41985|5,42100|3,42215|2,42331|0) - ^
    uhh and so on
  4. 00:16:600 (16600|2,16831|4) - move to 1 and 3
  5. 00:23:985 - u can even try something new like..
  6. 00:26:061 (26061|4,26177|4) - to 7
  7. 00:28:254 (28254|1,28254|3,28369|3) -
  8. 00:35:292 (35292|4,35408|2,35408|4,35638|2,35754|4) - some inconsistent here
  9. 00:38:985 (38985|4,39100|6,39100|4) - demn, i couldnt find this fun at all XD
    pls drag this 4col to the left... perfect mirror and more comfy, less a-n-c-h-o-r
  10. 00:52:600 (52600|0,53061|6) - really would suggest remove this and use only 1 note here,
    and by removing that selected note, its much more hand balance, tbh, it makes it twice easier, much more comfy
    00:54:446 (54446|2,54908|4) - ^
    00:56:292 (56292|0,56754|6) - ^
    00:58:138 (58138|2) - delete one and move the other one to 4
  11. 01:21:215 - im usually good with LN.... but i miss lots of this.... in fact, MOST of it...
    this is because they are mostly stick to the right hand and its killing the right hand control...
    .
    what i suggest :
    -to keep your 3 LN at each time
    -1 release on the other hand, and 1 new hold on the other hand, yes pleaseeeee
    (the current one is a bit unconsistent thus makes it really hard)
    or you can make one two three LN then SHield them, into new LN ,
    anything variant and yet comfy to play.
    ok smthg like :

    thats just something i came up with, its easy, its consistent and well... it has some pattern.
    feel free to make yours.
    or shield LN that is still easy to control...
  12. 01:49:831 (109831|1,109888|2,110061|2,110119|3) - drag this 1 col to the left
    Thats all ^^, good luck and hope it helps.

i will continue on the last 3diff SOON, S-O-O-N
sry jin, i have a fever, work work and idk, X_X it seems my req havent decrease at all.
Topic Starter
Jinjin

LordRaika wrote:

Some check before bbbbbbb
BG :
Snap :
Audio :
Timing :
Spread :

Easy

  1. 01:47:292 (107292|4,107523|2,107754|4,107985|1,108215|5,108446|1,108677|5) - make them all burst? the trill is not balance imo, total of 7 note, u can burst it 7 times , ex : col 1 7 2 6 3 5 and 4 Yup this sounds good, made the change~

Normal

  1. 00:13:831 (13831|4) - to 7? I guess this works to keep the symmetry in place, sure :3
  2. 00:51:215 (51215|3) - i think this 5 hold is too much for normal? remove this one? :o okiee, sounds good
    the sound on the downbeat is also not really strong to be follow...
  3. 01:09:677 (69677|4,69677|5) - move this to left hand side? moved
  4. 01:31:946 (91946|4,92061|2,92177|4) - CTRL+H and 01:31:946 (91946|6) - delete,
    to make it like 01:24:561 - woops, fixed :)
    or something similar.... (i mean the total note)
  5. 01:53:292 (113292|0,113292|4,113292|2) - really prefer this to be 2 4 6 :) okay, you know more about easier diffs than i do so changed :D

Hard

  1. 00:18:792 (18792|4,19023|4) - this 2nd note should be somewhere at col 6 right? for a stricter pitch relavancy, yes. Fixed with respect to pitch~
    and so much things like this for the whole map(i mean exact same pattern, so if u made change, pls apply to all others >w<) applied~
  2. 00:20:869 (20869|4) - yeah pretty much sure this section can have more interesting pattern <3 Tried to make it more interesting :p
  3. 00:32:754 - really suggesting this for more comfortable play and pattern and less anchor point.
    applied the suggestion, good idea~ (i guess im not used to easier diff mapping anymore cuz all patterns are pretty comfortable to me.. ;A;
  4. 00:35:985 (35985|5,36331|4,36561|4) - honestly, this anchor point and trill is abit annoying... tried to make the patterns better here :3
  5. 00:45:100 (45100|1) - to 1? sure
  6. 00:59:985 (59985|1,60215|5,60446|1,60677|5) - to 3 , 6 , 2 , 5 pls , more hand balance good idea!
    01:01:831 - ^ fixed~
  7. 01:02:754 (62754|4,63446|2,63677|6,63908|0,64369|0) - if possible this too
    i really prefer 1 hold for 1 hand, and the other hand press the note. rearranged the pattern so this is possible~
  8. 01:21:792 (81792|3,82138|3,82715|3) - to 2 you sure about this? o.o it creates a 1/2 jack which is pretty fast at this bpm
  9. 01:37:138 (97138|6,97138|5,97369|4,97369|2,97600|0,97600|1) - the last one makes some uncomfortable anchor
    the first two double note, have the same pitch, so maybe u can rearrange them? yup~
  10. 01:10:946 (70946|3) - this one is uhhh, how bout to 1 ? Agreed~

Thats all ^^, good luck and hope it helps.[/list]

i will continue on the last 3diff SOON, S-O-O-N
sry jin, i have a fever, work work and idk, X_X it seems my req havent decrease at all.
That was very helpful, thanks Raika >w</
Tristan97

LordRaika wrote:

Some check before bbbbbbb
BG :
Snap :
Audio :
Timing :
Spread :

Some Mod

Easy

  1. 01:47:292 (107292|4,107523|2,107754|4,107985|1,108215|5,108446|1,108677|5) - make them all burst? the trill is not balance imo, total of 7 note, u can burst it 7 times , ex : col 1 7 2 6 3 5 and 4

Normal

  1. 00:13:831 (13831|4) - to 7?
  2. 00:51:215 (51215|3) - i think this 5 hold is too much for normal? remove this one?
    the sound on the downbeat is also not really strong to be follow...
  3. 01:09:677 (69677|4,69677|5) - move this to left hand side?
  4. 01:31:946 (91946|4,92061|2,92177|4) - CTRL+H and 01:31:946 (91946|6) - delete,
    to make it like 01:24:561 -
    or something similar.... (i mean the total note)
  5. 01:53:292 (113292|0,113292|4,113292|2) - really prefer this to be 2 4 6 :)

Hard

  1. 00:18:792 (18792|4,19023|4) - this 2nd note should be somewhere at col 6 right?
    and so much things like this for the whole map(i mean exact same pattern, so if u made change, pls apply to all others >w<)
  2. 00:20:869 (20869|4) - yeah pretty much sure this section can have more interesting pattern <3
  3. 00:32:754 - really suggesting this for more comfortable play and pattern and less anchor point.
  4. 00:35:985 (35985|5,36331|4,36561|4) - honestly, this anchor point and trill is abit annoying...
  5. 00:45:100 (45100|1) - to 1?
  6. 00:59:985 (59985|1,60215|5,60446|1,60677|5) - to 3 , 6 , 2 , 5 pls , more hand balance
    01:01:831 - ^
  7. 01:02:754 (62754|4,63446|2,63677|6,63908|0,64369|0) - if possible this too
    i really prefer 1 hold for 1 hand, and the other hand press the note.
  8. 01:21:792 (81792|3,82138|3,82715|3) - to 2
  9. 01:37:138 (97138|6,97138|5,97369|4,97369|2,97600|0,97600|1) - the last one makes some uncomfortable anchor
    the first two double note, have the same pitch, so maybe u can rearrange them?
  10. 01:10:946 (70946|3) - this one is uhhh, how bout to 1 ?

Tristan97's Insane

  • Insane is perfectly my current skill, so this mod is based on both my mapping and performance terms.
    i found this pretty interesting but some pattern really throws me off...

    pls do not think im a bit harsh here, im doing my best to makes this insane as good as i would even love it myself. thats how i mod >w<
  1. first things first, it has too much anchor point, say... a normal note anchor point at this level would still be ok, BUT
    00:07:369 (7369|2,7600|2,7600|4,7715|4,7946|4) - things like this is really not consistent at all...
    its require more concentration to read it and jack it...
    .
    my own suggestion is to make them follow pitch perfectly, FEEL free to jack this with same pitch,
    i would love to play it as jack as well... and a single note then jack with short LN is also feels good
    but dont add the third mini jack after this short LN, its quite cancer....

    notice the jack, 1single note 1short LN, both on same pitch, it gives a really perfect feeling
    and the surroundings pattern doesnt mindblock by the anchor, at least its a different column.
  2. 00:09:561 (9561|2,9792|2) - .... :(
    00:09:561 (9561|2,9561|0) - WHY not swap the short LN to 1 , and single note to 3 ??
    that makes it perfect same pitch with 00:09:215 -
    and less anchor. (well, single note anchor is much much comfortable than short LN follow up with single note on same col)
  3. 00:12:446 (12446|5,12561|3,12677|2,12792|0) - drag them 1 col to the right
    so that the last two short LN is not the same column with 00:12:908 (12908|2,13023|0) - which doesnt have the same pitch
    so the trill doesnt feels weird here.
    00:19:831 (19831|5,19946|3,20061|2,20177|0) - ^
    00:41:985 (41985|5,42100|3,42215|2,42331|0) - ^
    uhh and so on
  4. 00:16:600 (16600|2,16831|4) - move to 1 and 3
  5. 00:23:985 - u can even try something new like..
  6. 00:26:061 (26061|4,26177|4) - to 7
  7. 00:28:254 (28254|1,28254|3,28369|3) -
  8. 00:35:292 (35292|4,35408|2,35408|4,35638|2,35754|4) - some inconsistent here *FIXED*
  9. 00:38:985 (38985|4,39100|6,39100|4) - demn, i couldnt find this fun at all XD
    pls drag this 4col to the left... perfect mirror and more comfy, less a-n-c-h-o-r
  10. 00:52:600 (52600|0,53061|6) - really would suggest remove this and use only 1 note here,
    and by removing that selected note, its much more hand balance, tbh, it makes it twice easier, much more comfy
    00:54:446 (54446|2,54908|4) - ^
    00:56:292 (56292|0,56754|6) - ^
    00:58:138 (58138|2) - delete one and move the other one to 4 *I switched some stuff around a little bit. Really like the idea of only having the spacebar at 58:600*
  11. 01:21:215 - im usually good with LN.... but i miss lots of this.... in fact, MOST of it...
    this is because they are mostly stick to the right hand and its killing the right hand control...
    .
    what i suggest :
    -to keep your 3 LN at each time
    -1 release on the other hand, and 1 new hold on the other hand, yes pleaseeeee
    (the current one is a bit unconsistent thus makes it really hard)
    or you can make one two three LN then SHield them, into new LN ,
    anything variant and yet comfy to play. *I see where you're coming from on this, but the >anchors and overall stair patterns don't work for me. When I mapped this section I did it specifically for maxmium pitch relevancy, and don't feel like backing out of it even if they aren't 'easy to read denser LNs'*
    ok smthg like :

    thats just something i came up with, its easy, its consistent and well... it has some pattern.
    feel free to make yours.
    or shield LN that is still easy to control...
  12. 01:49:831 (109831|1,109888|2,110061|2,110119|3) - drag this 1 col to the left
    Thats all ^^, good luck and hope it helps.

To be honest Raika, I can really see where each of your suggestions are coming from. I reconsidered what I wanted in each section every time you brought up a new point. The truth to this difficulty is that it is meant to be in a style that has anchors and I personally feel like I these mappings achieved a strong balance between pitch relevancy and playability/enjoyability. In those LN sections, the harmonic patterns are kinda difficult to chart on seven lanes, but in looking at the overall construction of each phrase and the transitions to the following phrase, I felt the choices I made most appropriate. A section around 50 seconds in I never really made the decisino to include rice in, but since Jnjin put it in the spread, I was cool with it.

I appreciate you're investment in this difficulty and really encourage you to continue to map and play and discover what manner your opinions on some of my more Entozian stylistic choices mature. I claim no superior ability to map, but in understanding your input factoring my decisions, I largely picked to stand with the previously selected patterns. I ultimately submit my difficulty to Jinjin's Discretion, seeing as his experience and ability outclasses that of my own.

Thanks again for the mod!
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