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przepson
Hello admins
Idk if be possible but we need to change one player to team PROpsy
Because [R2] be offline too long time and we haven't any contact with him, we would like to change player to Hippo99 if you can
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BearZyo
NOW 4PM EST NOVEMBER 14, WE WILL BE SELECTING THE MATCHES/BRACKETS 50k-10k & 10k-1k @:
Electoz
how about 90-50k?
Crowve

Electoz wrote:

how about 90-50k?
You see that u only got 5 teams in it so , I guess it wont be happening.
Disappear

thewagner wrote:

Electoz wrote:

how about 90-50k?
You see that u only got 5 teams in it so , I guess it wont be happening.
Oh no, it will still be happening even with 5 teams. There has to be at least 2 teams. Or so what i heard from one of the staff
Crowve

Yami Yami chan wrote:

Oh no, it will still be happening even with 5 teams. There has to be at least 2 teams. Or so what i heard from one of the staff
No Pool out there tho.
Xelias
When can we get the 90k-50k map pool? There's only one more week until the event happens >.<
Disappear

thewagner wrote:

No Pool out there tho.
I think they might delay that tournament. Not quite sure. They only said that there has to be at least 2 teams to be able to participate
Octagon
Did someone record the Bracket selection? I went to sleep at 3pm Est(9 pm GMT+1) because i was really tired.
So i was thinking about watching the bracket selection in past broadcasts but nothing has been saved in the past broadcasts for the ztournament channel.

So hopefully someone recorded it and could upload it somewhere so i can watch it.
Histoire

Ketchup wrote:

Did someone record the Bracket selection? I went to sleep at 3pm Est(9 pm GMT+1) because i was really tired.
So i was thinking about watching the bracket selection in past broadcasts but nothing has been saved in the past broadcasts for the ztournament channel.

So hopefully someone recorded it and could upload it somewhere so i can watch it.
nope, wasnt recorded :(
also, im not sure if it was covered on stream (had it on mute)
are there warm up picks for matches?
and if yes, is there a time limit? (pls allow 5 minute maps ily <3)
tryaway
There are many things missing in this tournaments:

1. Rules

What rules do i mean? Well for the basic: Match information

We know that matches are played 4 vs 4, but not what Best-Of-Series? (BO5, BO7, ...)
And information regarding disconnections (intentionally or unintentionally)
Warmups? (yes/no, if yes what songlength maximum? And how many warmups?)
Substitute? (Maximum players that can sub in and out for one map)
Bans? (yes/no, if yes how many bans per team?)
Free mod picks (Does a player need to put mods on, if yes how many players needs to do that? What mods are accepted as mod. SD/EZ/FL SS Kappa)
Auto-disqualification, Win-By-Default and such, but no information yet regarding to that .

2. Bracket (with schedule)

Sorry if i bother you with this matter.
I know you had stream on last night (my time) , but due the fact that I can't find the VOD I can't see who my next opponent is.
If you are working on it, my deepest apologize because I didn't know and still bothered you with this question.
But for now, the homepage (first post of this thread) isn't updated with all of the above.

Schedule comes later, I know hard working guys like you publicize it later.
But sometimes it's better to do it earlier because some teams needs rescheduling.

3. Do not reply to my post with the answers

Yes, i mean it.
Not everyone participating in this tourney are going to read all post in this thread to search for their answers.
Instead, just update the first post of the thread. It's better and takes less time for everyone to get what they want (if they want the rules, otherwise I dunno what they want :roll: )

I hope you have read this boring post and make some work of it. ;)
WriggleNightbug
You should set the twitch channel to archive the streams, so there'd be a chance to have the VODs on Youtube or something, just saying.
Num5119
Wait....
The matches for 10k-1k start on November 22, 2015 at 1:00 PM EST?
(if not please tell me what time they start :o )
electricbullet9

tryaway wrote:

There are many things missing in this tournaments:

1. Rules

What rules do i mean? Well for the basic: Match information

We know that matches are played 4 vs 4, but not what Best-Of-Series? (BO5, BO7, ...)
And information regarding disconnections (intentionally or unintentionally)
Warmups? (yes/no, if yes what songlength maximum? And how many warmups?)
Substitute? (Maximum players that can sub in and out for one map)
Bans? (yes/no, if yes how many bans per team?)
Free mod picks (Does a player need to put mods on, if yes how many players needs to do that? What mods are accepted as mod. SD/EZ/FL SS Kappa)
Auto-disqualification, Win-By-Default and such, but no information yet regarding to that .

2. Bracket (with schedule)

Sorry if i bother you with this matter.
I know you had stream on last night (my time) , but due the fact that I can't find the VOD I can't see who my next opponent is.
If you are working on it, my deepest apologize because I didn't know and still bothered you with this question.
But for now, the homepage (first post of this thread) isn't updated with all of the above.

Schedule comes later, I know hard working guys like you publicize it later.
But sometimes it's better to do it earlier because some teams needs rescheduling.

3. Do not reply to my post with the answers

Yes, i mean it.
Not everyone participating in this tourney are going to read all post in this thread to search for their answers.
Instead, just update the first post of the thread. It's better and takes less time for everyone to get what they want (if they want the rules, otherwise I dunno what they want :roll: )

I hope you have read this boring post and make some work of it. ;)
Check the main post ;) also bracket schedules are being made as of current.

On another note, we're sorry there's no VOD, we had issues with twitch. As of now we're planning on just recording the broadcasts and uploading them to youtube
Histoire
When will the schedule be released? Some teams (like mine) can only make it on certain times...
Deterioration
Mappool@50k-10k

https://osu.ppy.sh/b/75988 links to a lady gaga song
Crowve
Only one player change per map?
That sucks tbh.
przepson
Some rules suggestions and unpleasant points:
If the game ends in a draw, it will not count.
How this be possible? :/


If a player disconnects, It will be treated as a fail.
But what if player get kicked from bancho? I think the best option be, if player who ben kicked (or disconected) from game-bug (like bancho p-p) he must show ss from error. Then be chance to re-match map (obviously, only when disconected be on not-completed duel moment)
This point be little no-fair ;/


The bracket format is 3 rounds, which are best of 5, followed by semifinals best of 7. Lastly, finals will also be best of 7.
You mean the tour started with BO5 right? Cause this 3 rounds make me confused :?


The referee invites the team captains. After that, the captains will invite their teammates.
If captain be offline from some reasons, i hope you invite other player right?


Each mappool consists of 5 sections: FreeMod, NoMod, HardRock, Hidden, DoubleTime.
About free-mod... This working like a big tournaments? I mean, just one player from team (but can all) must choose mods?




And when be shedule? ;d
tryaway

przepson wrote:

Some rules suggestions and unpleasant points:
If the game ends in a draw, it will not count.
How this be possible? :/


If a player disconnects, It will be treated as a fail.
But what if player get kicked from bancho? I think the best option be, if player who ben kicked (or disconected) from game-bug (like bancho p-p) he must show ss from error. Then be chance to re-match map (obviously, only when disconected be on not-completed duel moment)
This point be little no-fair ;/


The bracket format is 3 rounds, which are best of 5, followed by semifinals best of 7. Lastly, finals will also be best of 7.
You mean the tour started with BO5 right? Cause this 3 rounds make me confused :?


The referee invites the team captains. After that, the captains will invite their teammates.
If captain be offline from some reasons, i hope you invite other player right?


Each mappool consists of 5 sections: FreeMod, NoMod, HardRock, Hidden, DoubleTime.
About free-mod... This working like a big tournaments? I mean, just one player from team (but can all) must choose mods?




And when be shedule? ;d
1. Chances are very very slim for both teams to have the same score, but it exist and may happen.
2. I think SE (Standard Error) should be a SS for the disconnecting player. It is really no fun if bancho kicks you out for no reason.
But this is for the tournament staff to decide on.
3. Lets just say this: winners bracket got 5 rounds (last two rounds is BO7) and losers bracket has 7 rounds (Last two rounds is BO7)
Thus making the rest BO5
4. Im not fan either of inviting captains.
Sometimes captains tell their teammembers that he/she will skip one round due reasons, but he/she still wants his/her team to play
Denying a team to play only because captain got reason to skip is not fair.
5. Works like OWC (If it works like that, no confirmation yet) -> 2 players of each team has to put on mod on when FM is picked.
Mods that are accepted : HR, HD and FL (who the fuk wants FL???)
6. They are working on schedule so patience plox :)
Although I too want them to release it now :lol:

Hope this is enough information for you.
Xorcon-Senpai
So I would like to know what happened to the 90k-50k bracket?
electricbullet9

Xorcon-Senpai wrote:

So I would like to know what happened to the 90k-50k bracket?
still going on. there was some miscommunication with the map pool so it might be scheduled a bit later than the start of other brackets. this also applies to the 1k-1 bracket.
LeReyCat
Your team may sub out up to 1 player in between every game.
After a warm-up, you can sub as many players as desired.


I don't quite understand what this means. Are we allowed to sub out more than 1 player after warm ups? Or is it limited to just 1 player after every map pick? Or are we freely allowed to sub out any player only during warmups?
electricbullet9

WynnWolf wrote:

Your team may sub out up to 1 player in between every game.
After a warm-up, you can sub as many players as desired.


I don't quite understand what this means. Are we allowed to sub out more than 1 player after warm ups? Or is it limited to just 1 player after every map pick? Or are we freely allowed to sub out any player only during warmups?
I see how that could get confusing. After the warmup maps are played, you can sub as many players add you'd like in between the warm-up and the first game.
tryaway
Oh wait, I just saw losers bracket only have 6 rounds (5 normal plus semi according to Challonge)
Care to explain how it will goes in the losers bracket?
Num5119
Long quote

electricbullet9 wrote:

tryaway wrote:

There are many things missing in this tournaments:

1. Rules

What rules do i mean? Well for the basic: Match information

We know that matches are played 4 vs 4, but not what Best-Of-Series? (BO5, BO7, ...)
And information regarding disconnections (intentionally or unintentionally)
Warmups? (yes/no, if yes what songlength maximum? And how many warmups?)
Substitute? (Maximum players that can sub in and out for one map)
Bans? (yes/no, if yes how many bans per team?)
Free mod picks (Does a player need to put mods on, if yes how many players needs to do that? What mods are accepted as mod. SD/EZ/FL SS Kappa)
Auto-disqualification, Win-By-Default and such, but no information yet regarding to that .

2. Bracket (with schedule)

Sorry if i bother you with this matter.
I know you had stream on last night (my time) , but due the fact that I can't find the VOD I can't see who my next opponent is.
If you are working on it, my deepest apologize because I didn't know and still bothered you with this question.
But for now, the homepage (first post of this thread) isn't updated with all of the above.

Schedule comes later, I know hard working guys like you publicize it later.
But sometimes it's better to do it earlier because some teams needs rescheduling.

3. Do not reply to my post with the answers

Yes, i mean it.
Not everyone participating in this tourney are going to read all post in this thread to search for their answers.
Instead, just update the first post of the thread. It's better and takes less time for everyone to get what they want (if they want the rules, otherwise I dunno what they want :roll: )

I hope you have read this boring post and make some work of it. ;)
Check the main post ;) also bracket schedules are being made as of current.

On another note, we're sorry there's no VOD, we had issues with twitch. As of now we're planning on just recording the broadcasts and uploading them to youtube

Ah! Thanks for pointing that out!
I guess i forgot to read that part, sorry bout that :o
Crowve
Schedule?
przepson

thewagner wrote:

Schedule?
yea, i think tour start on saturday, and we still don't know when plays xD
Histoire
You can't just give the schedule so late like this, match is already in 2 days and teams might need to reschedule too.
tryaway
I think it's hard to make a schedule because they don't have EU referees except the streamer
Disappear
I have been wanting a full schedule for the whole tourny and so do others for awhile now but, if you give it to us now or tmr i think it will be to late. I already heard that one player in the 50k-10k have been restricted because of saying one word... and a couple others and i think we will need a schedule like... really soon. My team need some planning about the timing we are going into the tournament and we still have no schedule... unless this is all happening at once but i still believe we all need a time it actually starts. Either way, we need a schedule real soon or it will be difficult to plan all of this. Thank You
_Easy_
Hey guys,

I will lay down my work for this tournament now, I'd continuing this tournament very much, but under the job perfomance of some people, here, in the organization team, I simply expected more. For example yesterday, I've made a schedule for the 10k-1k tourney and I get the answer:"chill out, i have the requested times and i make it." I cant understand this answer... because i think you cant be so calm, when its already too late...

I hope you can understand this...


PS: if you have any question, just pm me.
electricbullet9
Hey guys, schedules for 50-10k are out. I am just now realizing that I am the only organizer left, as easy has quit and bear hasn't done anything. I would love to put this in the main post, but it takes bear too long to update. I will also be pm'ing these to team captains to try to get the word out as quick as possible. Also, STAFF WANTED! If anyone want's to help out, please don't hesitate. We (obviously) need it. Thanks for your patience everyone.


Tournament Schedule
przepson
11/21
4 PM
PROpsy
vs
Can we still change this

Emmmmm, i know Bear not going good, but we talk we can't play on earlier pm times ;<
If you can put our match to min 2 hours ex 6pm?
_Easy_
Soo guys, this is my last post here, then iam out

I dont know if electric want that, but its my idea of a schedule of the 10k-1k tourney

You can find them here.
electricbullet9

przepson wrote:

Can we still change this

If you can put our match to min 2 hours ex 6pm?
[/quote]
yes.
Ryuiji
soo I don't know if the Schedule from _easy_ will be used or not, buuut we kinda have to know by now.
since this is just stupid how long this is taking.
Ayako
http://puu.sh/lrcir/8d86186774.png

can NotEstellia- 's time slot change with Snow and Merp?
Phobos
Sorry, Merp can't go earlier. We could move to 16:00 utc and give you the 15:00 slot. I've checked with snow and they're ok with this, is that ok with you electricbullet9?
electricbullet9
Update: schedule link for 50k-10k now has 10k-1k on it as well.
Edit: if you'd like a timeslot change, please make sure to check with the team you're playing against and the teams you're switching with, like phobos did in the post above.
Histoire

electricbullet9 wrote:

Update: schedule link for 50k-10k now has 10k-1k on it as well.
Edit: if you'd like a timeslot change, please make sure to check with the team you're playing against and the teams you're switching with, like phobos did in the post above.
once again, the problem here is contacting the other captains. Again with such a late schedule how do you expect us to contact them when we would probably get such a late reply? Seeing the tourney staff and _Easy_ stepping down it might turn out disastrous like MIT, which we all hope won't happen here. Not only are you inconveniencing so many players, you now want us to contact them when theres less than a day left till match time? I hope this doesn't happen to the future matches right now. You need more staff and better micromanagement or this will turn out to be a bad tourney @BearZyo
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