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osu!mania critisism is so unfair

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Soul Stealer
Ok, so I LOVE osu!mania but the Stepmania people, well, some of them are just plain bullies towards us. No, I don't mean the Stepmania people who play here too, they're just like kindred spirits, and they're just playing for fun. I think it's really unfair that osu!mania is being hailed on by Stepmania and Co. and whenever I try and talk resonably to one of these kinds of people, they just kinda shun me and it's pissing me off that they'd dislike this game so much as to take it out on the players who play it. No, I am not saying ALL Stepmania players are like this, but some are, and I'm finding it a lot harder to keep my cool every time this happens. Now I think this is just heading towards me asking where the best therapist nearby is or something (it's not) but I just don't get it or understand it. I mean, I have NEVER seen an osu!mania talk badly towards a Stepmania player as the occasional rude one does to us, and I have never seen any osu!mania players who dislike Stepmania to the point of anger. In fact, quite a lot of the two game's fanbases hop between game to game and play both games and enjoy them both. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like this is getting out of hand slowly - and painfully.
OzzyOzrock
they are toxic come to taiko
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Soul Stealer
:o I'm afraid I can't do that...
It's not because of technical issues, I'll just say it plainly.

I am unfixably crappy at Taiko.




I said it. There.
Sorry.
Yordan
I don't mean to come off rude here but I'll look at what I would consider facts.
- You have been playing this game for two months, not long enough to understand the mania community properly.
- This is most likely the first and only VSRG game that you play, which is fine however if you played any of the other ones you would understand why people dislike this game to a degree where they would look for any reason to hate players from this community.

The reason why nobody who's a veteran of osu!mania has made a post like this is because they understand the flaws in this game and "community" that plays it.

I recommend you try other VSRG games and see for yourself so you can understand better for yourself as well.
CortFromPort
I can see you've had to bear this burden for quite some time (2 months) and I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. But what you have to understand is that mania was never anything worth defending or getting upset over having a bad community to begin with. It's nothing but a vsrg with no valuable defining factors making it feel like one of the biggest wastes of time. If you can't take people coming in and expressing their opinion that everybody else in the community loves to hear, than most likely this isn't the kind of game for you. Or hey, there's even this thing where you can just not log in resulting in nobody being able to tell you how bad your favorite game is. Hope this solved your problem <3

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm just going to waste more of my life on this amazing game.
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Soul Stealer

RoFAIL wrote:

I don't mean to come off rude here but I'll look at what I would consider facts.
- You have been playing this game for two months, not long enough to understand the mania community properly.
- This is most likely the first and only VSRG game that you play, which is fine however if you played any of the other ones you would understand why people dislike this game to a degree where they would look for any reason to hate players from this community.

The reason why nobody who's a veteran of osu!mania has made a post like this is because they understand the flaws in this game and "community" that plays it.

I recommend you try other VSRG games and see for yourself so you can understand better for yourself as well.
You're not coming off as rude, this is actually the most productive thing anyone's said in about 5 years of my life...
It's also that I have very internal.... eh, problems. I'm definately going to be waiting for something to try and be like how I percieve this and then everything falls apart because I really don't know what I'm talking about but I'm irritated enough at the time to think I do

If you know what I mean XD
Hestia-
I concur--these Stepmania players are ruining the integrity of the mania community. Someone needed to stop the toxicity and put these players in their place. Thank you for being brave enough to stand up and make your voice heard. How dare they presume to
Valedict
osumania suck
Vygatron
osumania bad
lemonguy
osumania crap
-Konner-
I don't see what everyone's problem is. The arguments between osu!mania and sm are so pointless.


Which is why you should only play auto converts with 4K mod.
princesswell
Just play and have fun.
Kamikaze
what are osu!maniacs
don't do autoconverts kids
Bobbias
First off: complaining about how an outside community sees osu in osu's forums is hilariously pointless.

Second: osu! has a reputation for having a bad community (have you ever looked at the rest of the forum, or #osu? it's enough to make me gag on the stupidity sometimes) Osu! was generally seen as a complete joke in terms of actual rhythm games by most outside communities.

Third: There are legitimate problems with osu!mania, so it's not much of a surprise that people would hate on it. Nothing is more annoying than seeing a game you consider flat out bad pick up a growing community while your own game of choice seems to be slowly dieing out (stepmania has been around a long time now, and has seen it's community dwindle over the past years).

In short: this thread was completely pointless. If you want to complain, feel free to head over to FFR and see what happens (hint, this is not a good idea).
Valedict
as a serious response


I mean, I have NEVER seen an osu!mania talk badly towards a Stepmania player as the occasional rude one does to us, and I have never seen any osu!mania players who dislike Stepmania to the point of anger.

you don't know where most players come from nor can you make the assumption that every player who is mean 2 u :( is from Stepmania


considering you're the only one who thought making a thread like this was a good idea means you don't know this community well enough to justify it being made


you also seem to be getting irrationally mad at "stepmania players" and that's silly given how often other players from other games come here and complain about how bad osumania is
BilliumMoto

Bobbias wrote:

If you want to complain, feel free to head over to FFR and see what happens (hint, this is not a good idea).
ily
Guilhermeziat
OSUMANIA FUCKING SUCKS HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Kreator014
^^^^^^^^ me irl
Ayaya
osu so bad, cosmetics ftw tho :)
akuma123
Osu!Mania > Stepmania :v

:run:
Frustration
mania is bad and you should feel bad
Fullerene-
yeah i agree tbh

stepmania is a festering shithole of people with mental health issues and elitists that can't accept anything with LONG nTOes

remove stepmania, thank you for bringing this to the attention of the osu!!!mAbnia community :D
Redon
waaah osumania sucks but i'll still come here every time and play it
Vulkin

-Kamikaze- wrote:

don't do autoconverts kids
*does converts*
Tidek
There are 3 kinds of people:

- Stepmania fa*s
- LR2/O2jam fa*s
- osu!mania fa*s
- and space time lovers
Aqo
I play osu from time to time and enjoy it when playing good charts but the game has its flaws that keeps me from playing it as much as other games.

If you want to defend osu, here are its upsides:
1. very easy to use map editor
2. built-in irc client + multiplayer with servers
3. map uploading server
4. ability to spectate other players

All of those are things that other rhythm games tend to lack and I'd love if they had them.

However osu has downsides in other aspects such as:

1. very limited skinning
2. default and cap map settings that lead to bad habits and hurt improvement rate
3. low mapping standards
4. immature community

All of those downsides sometimes make osu frustrating to play or talk about with others, but if you simply ignore all the annoying people and only play with friends, ignore all the shitty maps and only play the good ones, use logical map settings and try to play well, and find a decent skin, then osu can feel like a pretty alright game that's fun to spend time on.

So there you go. Here's a fair criticism. Now quit 4K because it's shit, come play 7K and join LR2. we have cookies, you'll be overjoyed.
Redon

Aqo wrote:

3. low mapping standards
I think you misspelled "literally non-existent"
abraker
osu! is just more player friendly. It's like having autoaim in shooter games. Thats why it's taken as a joke. Where the players come from, stepmania, o2jam, or LR2, you dont get the friendly game mechanics mania has.


In a nutshell:
Imagine playing shooter game with no gui and a shooter game with gui and autoaim.
Hestia-

abraker wrote:

osu! is just more player friendly. It's like having autoaim in shooter games. Thats why it's taken as a joke. Where the players come from, stepmania, o2jam, or LR2, you dont get the friendly game mechanics mania has.


In a nutshell:
Imagine playing shooter game with no gui and a shooter game with gui and autoaim.
what are you even talking about
did you forget to turn off auto mod?
OperaMini0

Hestia- wrote:

what are you even talking about
did you forget to turn off auto mod?
he's probably talking about mashing being easy, clearing being easy and the way that long notes work.
Feerum
Osu!Mania is so fun c:

Just ignore the "yolostepmaniaisbetterandosumaniaisshit" ppl and you will have fun ^-^
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