And now guess why
Izen x wrote:
You're right, I didnt think about that, I'm sorry. nut there's still the lowest rank error, waaiiru wasnt 34X when he registered, it's like they didnt count with him.Nwolf wrote:
someone who is in top 1000 is also in top 2000, it's not 2+5
I can hardly guess something like that with my lack of information, but I haven't seen a single serious fault (100-200h) in his profile this year.Loctav wrote:
And now guess why
I'm fixing your formulas now.Loctav wrote:
And now guess why
Loctav wrote:
There is nothing to fix. Everyone who passed the registration conditions were included into the calculations correctly. They either did not sign up or they violated the rules. In the latter case, make them contact tournaments@ppy.sh and call it a day.
I checked the pdf like 10 times and you did change nothing at all.Loctav wrote:
Also for Spain.
Just listen to me, I think this is not correct, well you can do a mistake on doing the sheet, cause it's normal. But you are only sending the same link to the sheet again and again, saying that "now formulas are correct" but there's no change on it. We are saying you that Waaiiru is not in the sheet, so it's normal that this "formula" is wrong. And the only thing you are saying is: contact with tournaments@ppy.sh all the time. I enjoy so much osu! but I think people need to be fair doing things. And as I said this is not. I sent you an excel with the correct Spanish stats, with Waaiiru in it, and you just say, this is not correct. I was doing the average of Waaiiru, Xelo ns, KHRiku, Nazurin, adrilolo9 (me) and Neko Sanae, and we have more average than other teams that are accepted. I am just saying the truth, if I told any lies just ban meLoctav wrote:
One of your provided conditions does not apply then. In any case, waaiiru can discuss that with tournaments@ppy.sh
This isn't a random tournament. This is the World Cup. The best a country can bring vs the best a country can bring. What we are seeing (last year as well) is 1 - 3 of a country's best players are being banned from playing. Of course I understand the rules and such, but like any sport or e-sport for that matter, you don't see this kind of reinforcement anywhere. A player who hasn't violated any serious rules, such as hacking and so on, should have some sort of leniency. Why is there such a draconian policy on a minor violation? In sports, you don't see a foul result in them not being able to play in the finals of an event.Loctav wrote:
I am sure there are other people more than happy to join this competition. If you are so salty about everything, better leave the spot for people who actually enjoy these things.
You know why other sports and e-sports give players some leniency to players for "minor" infractions? It's because Sports and e-Sports have stadiums to host audiences and television deals to draw more audiences. And when players are not playing those sports, viewership and attendance counts drop, which costs them millions in revenue and hurts future stadium leases and television deals in the long run. In other words, when a player commits a infraction against the league rules, major sports and e-Sports are forced to sacrifice their integrity for the sake of profiting their business in the long run.Noki wrote:
This isn't a random tournament. This is the World Cup. The best a country can bring vs the best a country can bring. What we are seeing (last year as well) is 1 - 3 of a country's best players are being banned from playing. Of course I understand the rules and such, but like any sport or e-sport for that matter, you don't see this kind of reinforcement anywhere. A player who hasn't violated any serious rules, such as hacking and so on, should have some sort of leniency. Why is there such a draconian policy on a minor violation? In sports, you don't see a foul result in them not being able to play in the finals of an event.
NZ has played most if not all owc. We don't perform particularly well, but we did and still do qualify in the top 32 which gives us the right to play.Neko Sanae wrote:
Ok now seriously what is the criteria for choosing teams, we had more than enough players for a team. And if we are talking about performance idk why NZ, Mexico, Philippines, Thailand, Greece and Singapore got instead of us.
.. but the group stage are the qualifier rounds? :CElectoz wrote:
Maybe should we have something like 'Qualifier round' next year?
I mean, if your country is far from the first 32 then it will be unlikely that you will ever get in.
In my opinion, I think every country should have a chance to prove themselves that they're strong and good enough for the world cup
Just in my opinion though.
that is correct by now.bolt997 wrote:
Based on the spread sheet, Indonesia is not going to participate in the world cup?
Why? The OWC is meant to be the best, so they get the top 32 (statistically) best teams.tryaway wrote:
Next year for the last 8 spots, do a qualification round.
Like the best 24 countries auto-qualified, but the remaining 8 spots can be taken by any countries.
How about the other countries just put in more effort to get a higher rank, so they can qualify? Any country that has better statistics should have priority over the ones below it.tryaway wrote:
Next year for the last 8 spots, do a qualification round.
Like the best 24 countries auto-qualified, but the remaining 8 spots can be taken by any countries.
I think players are misunderstanding their positions (not trying to offend anyone), if you aren't in the top 8 (or even 16) you should be privileged to even play in OWC. Group stages are meant to weed out the weak teams and having a qualifier is redundant since 32 countries is already spreading the player base thin. Nobody has time to organize something that is pointless and the end result (Bo16) would be the same regardless the amount of gauntlets.Mr Color wrote:
A qualifier round sounds pretty good, actually. Many sports and e-sports do this. Of course, this means more matches to organize, but it also ensures a fairer outcome in the end. Rank only says so much compared to performing with OWC rules. There's a bit of a trough towards August-October in world cup action, so this could be an idea to hold signups sooner and gather, say, 8 countries fighting for 4 spots and have them do a round robin.
Thing is that the e-sports that do this is because there are probably no ladders or leagues they are basing their teams seeding on.Mr Color wrote:
A qualifier round sounds pretty good, actually. Many sports and e-sports do this. Of course, this means more matches to organize, but it also ensures a fairer outcome in the end. Rank only says so much compared to performing with OWC rules. There's a bit of a trough towards August-October in world cup action, so this could be an idea to hold signups sooner and gather, say, 8 countries fighting for 4 spots and have them do a round robin.
If we judged statistically every year, I think the teams will be not much different. To see almost the same teams every year, it could be a little bit more exciting if we could see some new faces in the world cup.look at e-sports, there are allmost all the time the same teams competing and we still watch it, i don't see the point in this..
I'm proud for finns getting in on such a high placing, even tho we are fairly small country. And im sure spaniards are dissapointed bc they arent in, but if they truly are better than some top 32 teams they should prove it for next year by getting the PP needed.Poofie wrote:
Loctav has better things to doi think.
Enon wrote:
Why tournament managements don't tell me about that what is my fault?
They just say "It's your fault" don't tell what that is.
I want see the reason of my ban!
Loctav wrote:
Contact tournaments@ppy.sh for that
that is correct by now.[/quote]bolt997 wrote:
Based on the spread sheet, Indonesia is not going to participate in the world cup?
bolt997 wrote:
bolt997 wrote:
Based on the spread sheet, Indonesia is not going to participate in the world cup?I thought registration was over? Is there any other way to get one more member to join?Loctav wrote:
that is correct by now.
Me too, but too bad we couldn't qualify. However, we'll do our best to get our country players to another level for next year.Poofie wrote:
I worked my butt off since OWC'14, and so did few others.
Forcing players to register who don't want to is okay but letting people who want to play and most likely did nothing groundbreakingly wrong is absolutely out of the question.Endaris wrote:
Based on the amount of players available spain could have easily got a team that is statistically way above the requirements yet only 7 people even managed to register.
Asking players and encouraging them to register = forcing them to register, okay._verto_ wrote:
Forcing players to register who don't want to is okay but letting people who want to play and most likely did nothing groundbreakingly wrong is absolutely out of the question.
That's you. Most high ranked players who don't register either dislike participating in tournaments or has had enough of the bullshit that happens along with it.Endaris wrote:
Asking players and encouraging them to register = forcing them to register, okay._verto_ wrote:
Forcing players to register who don't want to is okay but letting people who want to play and most likely did nothing groundbreakingly wrong is absolutely out of the question.
If I was some 5k pp player I would waste more thoughts over a registration if someone asked me nicely and even gives me references who else registered opposed to me living in a nutshell with none communicating to me about OWC aside from the symbol on the osu! starting screen.