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RSP - The First Star

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Kroytz
703 posts
Joined February 2013
Topic Starter
Kroytz
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 4:21:22 PM

Artist: RSP
Title: The First Star
Tags: ShiraKai NerovaRiuzGX DICE
BPM: 178
Filesize: 9927kb
Play Time: 04:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. Altair (5.92 stars, 1014 notes)
  2. Insane (4.86 stars, 795 notes)
  3. N/A's Normal (1.66 stars, 299 notes)
  4. ShiraKai's Hard (3.13 stars, 633 notes)
Download: RSP - The First Star
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by Kroytz , edited 23 times in total.
Kyouren
5,579 posts
Joined October 2012
Kyouren
Can i make normal diff?
Fookiz
157 posts
Joined June 2014
Fookiz
just a small suggestion that you probably won't change

why do you keep the angle of the sceond DS changing stream here -
01:25:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
02:19:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -

i feel it has a lot more impact when it changes the angle and i see you can do it perfectly so i suggest you do

cheers
Lanturn
osu! Alumni
3,912 posts
Joined March 2012
Lanturn
8 months.. 1 kd gg

Colors! add Colors!~
Because you don't have a SB or Video, It's highly suggested to use Letterbox In Breaks.

[Easy]
Are you sure you want to map the first half of the Kiai to the vocals? The offbeats can be a little difficult for newer players. It's a little strange jumping back into the main rhythm at 01:27:306 (1) - but then you swap back to vocals at 01:33:373 (2,3,4) - shortly after. I wish it was a bit more consistent, but I'll leave it up to you to decide.
  1. 00:17:867 (3,4,5) - A bit inconsistent with this section. You almost completely ignore vocals here, so it's a little strange to have only these few notes heavily dedicated to them. Try following the beat still.
  2. 00:36:070 (1) - Should end 1/2 earlier to match the music. There isn't anything playing on this tail.
  3. 01:59:665 (1,1) - If you're trying to emphasize the vocal here, maybe a 3/1 slider would be more appropriate as the vocals end around that plus the tail would land on a beat.
  4. 03:25:957 (1,1) - Mainly because there isn't anything strong playing on the reverse, consider reducing these by 1/2 and then adding a circle after. It also lets you click 03:27:306 - and such which starts that guitar up.
[Normal]
I would personally NC every two combos on this map, since most of your combos don't even reach 4.
  1. 00:02:193 (3) - Try splitting this up into 2 sliders. 00:02:867 - is a pretty dominant note so it doesn't work too well with the reverse hitting 1/2 earlier and then it skips over it.
  2. 00:22:587 - I think you meant to have SC:1 here.
  3. 00:32:699 (2) - 1/2 reverse to catch the extra snap?
  4. 00:47:362 (3) - I would personally avoid using sliders like this in lower diffs since they can be confusing.
  5. 00:54:946 (1) - This whole section. Trying adding a couple circles at like 00:56:800 - or 00:59:497 - as two examples. It definitely feels a bit empty playing 1/1 sliders over and over again on a Normal.
  6. 01:11:631 (2) - Definitely not unrankable, but it's getting really close to the bottom. Can you move this up a little if at all possible?
  7. 03:34:721 (2) - Feels like there should be a finish on the tail.
  8. 03:39:946 (2) - Same thing as 47: These sliders with the hooks on the end that blend into the slider itself can sometimes be confusing to play.
[Hard]
  1. 01:53:429 (2,3) - These offbeats feel a bit awkward to play. mostly because you don't really follow the vocals too much in this section 01:51:912 (2,3,4) - for example doesn't really follow it at all.. So it's definitely a sudden change.
  2. 02:20:901 (4) - Circle instead?
  3. 03:36:744 (1) - Not sure what happened here. Is this slider supposed to look like this? I really do think a blanket would be more appropriate here.
  4. 04:09:103 (1,2) - I'd use a bit more spacing. This will easily get mistaken for a 1/1
  5. 04:26:969 (2,3) - To emphasize the claps more, Try swapping these. The claps will be on dominant clicks and 04:27:306 - will be passive.
Yikes that SR gap. I'm pretty sure you'll need a light insane or something >_<

[Insane]
  1. 00:37:249 (1,2,3,4) - you do these offbeat sliders quite a bit in the song, but they're usually supported with vocals. This one however isn't, and almost all of the dominant beats are on the downbeats. I highly suggest for this rhythm at least to move all of these sliders 1/2 forward, and move the circle into the empty space back at 00:37:334 - Adjust as needed.
  2. 01:34:721 (4,5,6) - You have quite a bit of circles coming up. Maybe swap these to two circles and then a slider? it works wonders with your previous similar pattern this way at 01:34:047 (1,2,3) -
  3. 02:19:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Not entirely sure on this first half of the stream. It doesn't have that 'wishing star' sound effect like the second half of it does, or any drums/vocals to support this. | Same with 02:41:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
  4. 03:09:778 (1) - Tail node needs to be moved to x60 y244 and then adjust 03:11:126 (1) - to the same 60 244.
  5. 03:22:924 (3,4,5,6,1) - These vocals are on 1/3
[Altair]
  1. 03:22:924 (5,6,7,8,1) - Vocals are 1/3
Ran out of time.. I'll take a look through Altair tomorrow. Just don't want my computer to restart on me so I'll post for now XD

Edit: I'm too lazy. ._.
Quite Cynical
109 posts
Joined September 2013
Quite Cynical
sorry for being lazy x-x

all hitsound related sorry im really bad at analyzing maps :-[ (nice symmetry though (Y))

no kds

[Altair]
  1. 01:26:800 (3,5,7) - clap should be added to #7 to be consistent with 01:26:800 (3,5,7) -
  2. 02:20:733 (3,5,7) - ditto
  3. 03:47:025 (3,5,7) - ditto
  4. 02:15:002 (2) - possibly add a green line here with soft c1 w/ a whistle then;
  5. 02:15:508 (3) - add a whistle + clap here to keep that tick boom ting consistent throughout the song

    (whistle ---> whistle+clap ---> finish)
    (00:27:474 (4,5,6) - this combo im trying to keep consistent)
    (change most of the green lines sitting on top of them (or before them) to soft c1 instead of soft c3)

  6. 01:21:575 (3,4) - ditto
  7. 01:32:194 (3,4) - ditto
  8. 02:26:126 (7,8) - ditto
  9. 02:47:699 (7,8) - ditto
  10. 03:30:845 (5,6) - ditto
  11. 03:41:294 (2,3) - ditto
  12. 03:52:418 (7,8) - ditto
  13. 04:03:205 (4,5) - ditto

    end of ditto

  14. 03:57:811 (6,8) - add a whistle to these two
Kroytz
703 posts
Joined February 2013
Topic Starter
Kroytz
Lanturn

Lanturn wrote:

8 months.. 1 kd gg LUL

Colors! add Colors!~
Because you don't have a SB or Video, It's highly suggested to use Letterbox In Breaks. I add them later lolz.

[Normal]
I would personally NC every two combos on this map, since most of your combos don't even reach 4.
  1. 00:02:193 (3) - Try splitting this up into 2 sliders. 00:02:867 - is a pretty dominant note so it doesn't work too well with the reverse hitting 1/2 earlier and then it skips over it.
  2. 00:22:587 - I think you meant to have SC:1 here. oh lol. yeah
  3. 00:32:699 (2) - 1/2 reverse to catch the extra snap? sure
  4. 00:47:362 (3) - I would personally avoid using sliders like this in lower diffs since they can be confusing. changed it a bit
  5. 00:54:946 (1) - This whole section. Trying adding a couple circles at like 00:56:800 - or 00:59:497 - as two examples. It definitely feels a bit empty playing 1/1 sliders over and over again on a Normal. sure okay
  6. 01:11:631 (2) - Definitely not unrankable, but it's getting really close to the bottom. Can you move this up a little if at all possible? move it up a bit
  7. 03:34:721 (2) - Feels like there should be a finish on the tail. okay
  8. 03:39:946 (2) - Same thing as 47: These sliders with the hooks on the end that blend into the slider itself can sometimes be confusing to play.
i like this one tho ><

[Insane]
  1. 00:37:249 (1,2,3,4) - you do these offbeat sliders quite a bit in the song, but they're usually supported with vocals. This one however isn't, and almost all of the dominant beats are on the downbeats. I highly suggest for this rhythm at least to move all of these sliders 1/2 forward, and move the circle into the empty space back at 00:37:334 - Adjust as needed. I disagree because I can hear the oh - oh - oh - oh parts start on red ><
  2. 01:34:721 (4,5,6) - You have quite a bit of circles coming up. Maybe swap these to two circles and then a slider? it works wonders with your previous similar pattern this way at 01:34:047 (1,2,3) - It might work better your way but this inspired by Shia's Insane pattern/rhythm so that's why I did it this way
  3. 02:19:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Not entirely sure on this first half of the stream. It doesn't have that 'wishing star' sound effect like the second half of it does, or any drums/vocals to support this. | Same with 02:41:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - same thing inspired by shia. maybe if others say it doesn't belong then I remove but yeah.
  4. 03:09:778 (1) - Tail node needs to be moved to x60 y244 and then adjust 03:11:126 (1) - to the same 60 244. ok fix
  5. 03:22:924 (3,4,5,6,1) - These vocals are on 1/3 okay~
[Altair]
  1. 03:22:924 (5,6,7,8,1) - Vocals are 1/3 fixed
Ran out of time.. I'll take a look through Altair tomorrow. Just don't want my computer to restart on me so I'll post for now XD

Edit: I'm too lazy. ._.

@ QC: I fixed them all. tyvm
Cryptic
551 posts
Joined December 2013
Cryptic
So long plz send help dying hungry thirsty ded

[General]
  1. AR Spread and OD Spread are a bit of a concern to me. I'd probably change the Insane to AR 9 and Altair to AR 9.2 or 9.3 As far as OD, If you want to keep the OD on Insane sub 8, make it 7.5, otherwise make it 8. For Altair, 8.5 is fine as long as you buff the Insane.
  2. The diffspread is a bit whew at the moment. Nerfing the streams on the Insane and then nerfing some of the largest jumps on Altair should put it more in line though.
  3. Custom Combo Colors plz?
[Altair]
  1. 00:25:283 (1,2,3,4) - Musically this makes sense but its kind of just, random? The overlap here and the blanketing just makes it awkward to read on the first playthrough, do something more like you did here: 00:26:631 (1,2,3,4) - .
  2. 00:51:575 (3,1) - This triggers me on an emotional level. Make the 1 slider blanket the shape of the 3 slider or something.
  3. 01:25:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Not sure I'm a fan with these, but they play well and fit the music so it should be fine. Personally I'd recommend hitsounding them to better compliment the music as at the moment they just kind of hide behind it.
  4. 01:47:530 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - The stream jump here isn't particularly hard to play, but really makes zero sense according to the music.
  5. 02:31:351 (5,6,7,8,1) - This is way too large for the intensity of the song, please nerf this a bit.
  6. 03:55:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This jump pattern feels way less uniform than all the others, I don't really get why theres no particular pattern to it like pretty much all of the other jumps in this diff. I also think it should be nerfed slightly.
  7. 03:59:665 (1) - Blanket could be better
  8. Yeah thats basically it. I'd recommend nerfing a few of the bigger jumps in the map to get the SR a bit lower to make your spread seem a bit better, because at the moment the jump from Insane to Altair is kind of large (but then again so is the jump from Hard to Insane). This map uses a lot of symmetry and geometric patterns, so it plays really clunkily when you drift from that slightly as well, so maybe refine some of the patterns that aren't geometric shapes. Overall its a good diff.
[Insane]
  1. 00:42:812 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I strongly dislike this pattern, it just feels kind of clunky. An expanding or rotating triangle would be better.
  2. 01:25:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - So I was okay with these on the extra, but a 16 note stream on an insane where the noise is barely (if at all) present in the music seems overmapped to me. I'd say this needs to be nerfed.
  3. 01:35:396 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Just, just change this. Its really boring to play and it feels way too compact. As you've told me before, you have an entire left side, use it.
  4. 01:38:092 - Just start the break here, theres no reason to wait until 01:40:789 -.
  5. 02:19:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is such a huge unnecessary SR buff. These streams need to be changed mang. (This stream itself adds .07*)
  6. 02:29:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - I still dislike this pattern, it just seems way too claustrophobic.
  7. 02:41:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Even if you don't change the other streams, this one is unusually hard for an Insane.
  8. 03:46:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Streamz
  9. 03:55:620 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I despise this pattern.
  10. Yeah I dunno, I'm not a big fan of this diff. Its really solid, but then it has streams that I just don't think should be an in Insane and also really claustrophobic jump patterns that are meant to be a bit more intense than you have them mapped. If you ignore that though, the diff is really good - I just think they need to be ironed out to be more consistent with the rest of the map.
[ShiraKai's Hard]
  1. I'm not really sure how the pause stacks will play on a Hard so I'm just going to skip over this one.
[Normal]
  1. 01:01:013 (2,1) - These aren't parallel.
  2. 01:25:957 (1,2,3) - Hitsounds are definitely way too quiet for a Normal, they blend it with the music and will be a DQ reason for sure.
  3. Same note about the break on the Insane applies here, just start it earlier.
  4. 02:19:890 (1,2,3) - 02:41:463 (1,2,3) - 03:46:182 (1,2,3) - ^
  5. 03:39:946 (2) - Nah, this won't work, it looks pretty but it'll be confusing to play for actual noobs and its over 3 minutes into the map.
  6. Solid Normal.
[N/A'S Easy]
  1. Looks good to me.
Solid set, good luck fam.
Kroytz
703 posts
Joined February 2013
Topic Starter
Kroytz
encryptic

Cryptic wrote:

So long plz send help dying hungry thirsty ded

[General]
  1. AR Spread and OD Spread are a bit of a concern to me. I'd probably change the Insane to AR 9 and Altair to AR 9.2 or 9.3 As far as OD, If you want to keep the OD on Insane sub 8, make it 7.5, otherwise make it 8. For Altair, 8.5 is fine as long as you buff the Insane. AR 8.5 on Altair?! I think 7.5 -> 8.8 -> 9.4 is rather balanced. If anything I should lower Insane down to 8.5 but .3 is negligible and its more for DT purposes honestly kek.
  2. The diffspread is a bit whew at the moment. Nerfing the streams on the Insane and then nerfing some of the largest jumps on Altair should put it more in line though. I kind of agree on the streams for Insane... but for a bit of play balance between the two diffs I think what I have is a decent compromise.
  3. Custom Combo Colors plz? okie~
[Altair]
  1. 00:25:283 (1,2,3,4) - Musically this makes sense but its kind of just, random? The overlap here and the blanketing just makes it awkward to read on the first playthrough, do something more like you did here: 00:26:631 (1,2,3,4) - . I see where you're coming from but this isn't problematic.
  2. 00:51:575 (3,1) - This triggers me on an emotional level. Make the 1 slider blanket the shape of the 3 slider or something. why didn't i notice this lol, fixed.
  3. 01:25:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Not sure I'm a fan with these, but they play well and fit the music so it should be fine. Personally I'd recommend hitsounding them to better compliment the music as at the moment they just kind of hide behind it. not sure what I can do without over hitsounding it but I custom sound makes it okay i guess.
  4. 01:47:530 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - The stream jump here isn't particularly hard to play, but really makes zero sense according to the music. Well, it's more of a buildup sort of thing to the next phrase. We'll see.
  5. 02:31:351 (5,6,7,8,1) - This is way too large for the intensity of the song, please nerf this a bit. This is like the only fun part of the map lolz.
  6. 03:55:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This jump pattern feels way less uniform than all the others, I don't really get why theres no particular pattern to it like pretty much all of the other jumps in this diff. I also think it should be nerfed slightly. eh same reasoning as before. maybe not as clean looking but plays fine ><
  7. 03:59:665 (1) - Blanket could be better
  8. Yeah thats basically it. I'd recommend nerfing a few of the bigger jumps in the map to get the SR a bit lower to make your spread seem a bit better, because at the moment the jump from Insane to Altair is kind of large (but then again so is the jump from Hard to Insane). This map uses a lot of symmetry and geometric patterns, so it plays really clunkily when you drift from that slightly as well, so maybe refine some of the patterns that aren't geometric shapes. Overall its a good diff.
[Insane]
  1. 00:42:812 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I strongly dislike this pattern, it just feels kind of clunky. An expanding or rotating triangle would be better. It's a basic pattern I feel, so it aint bad.
  2. 01:25:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - So I was okay with these on the extra, but a 16 note stream on an insane where the noise is barely (if at all) present in the music seems overmapped to me. I'd say this needs to be nerfed. (pp) nah but this diff is inspired by Shia's diff so I used a bit of his rhythm choices (ableit slightly odd).
  3. 01:35:396 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Just, just change this. Its really boring to play and it feels way too compact. As you've told me before, you have an entire left side, use it. but its an old map lol ;^; dont really know how to transition to the left side and the pattern as i say before is shia inspired. same pattern. makes for a bit of character imo but eh, to each his own i suppose.
  4. 01:38:092 - Just start the break here, theres no reason to wait until 01:40:789 -. a e s t h e t i c
  5. 02:19:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is such a huge unnecessary SR buff. These streams need to be changed mang. (This stream itself adds .07*)
  6. 02:29:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - I still dislike this pattern, it just seems way too claustrophobic.
  7. 02:41:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Even if you don't change the other streams, this one is unusually hard for an Insane.
  8. 03:46:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Streamz
  9. 03:55:620 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I despise this pattern.
  10. Yeah I dunno, I'm not a big fan of this diff. Its really solid, but then it has streams that I just don't think should be an in Insane and also really claustrophobic jump patterns that are meant to be a bit more intense than you have them mapped. If you ignore that though, the diff is really good - I just think they need to be ironed out to be more consistent with the rest of the map.
Yeah so pretty much all the stuff Shia did you didn't like that I did xD. It's okay, I understand but I'll have to deny these to keep the map how I intentionally designed it to be layed out. The idea was to have these streams and triangle patterns so yeah..

[Normal]
  1. 01:01:013 (2,1) - These aren't parallel. fixed
  2. 01:25:957 (1,2,3) - Hitsounds are definitely way too quiet for a Normal, they blend it with the music and will be a DQ reason for sure. eh, idk. hitsounding is the same in other diffs, normal is more based around playability than hitsounds.
  3. Same note about the break on the Insane applies here, just start it earlier.
  4. 02:19:890 (1,2,3) - 02:41:463 (1,2,3) - 03:46:182 (1,2,3) - ^
  5. 03:39:946 (2) - Nah, this won't work, it looks pretty but it'll be confusing to play for actual noobs and its over 3 minutes into the map. okay changed.
  6. Solid Normal.
[N/A'S Easy]
  1. Looks good to me.
Solid set, good luck fam.

ty bb ~
Nerova Riuz GX
1,413 posts
Joined April 2012
Nerova Riuz GX

Lanturn wrote:

[Easy]
Are you sure you want to map the first half of the Kiai to the vocals? The offbeats can be a little difficult for newer players. It's a little strange jumping back into the main rhythm at 01:27:306 (1) - but then you swap back to vocals at 01:33:373 (2,3,4) - shortly after. I wish it was a bit more consistent, but I'll leave it up to you to decide. yeah I'm sure that's what I want to do. the whole rhythm is quite repetitive so i did this. I might get some feedback after you mentioned this.
  1. 00:17:867 (3,4,5) - A bit inconsistent with this section. You almost completely ignore vocals here, so it's a little strange to have only these few notes heavily dedicated to them. Try following the beat still. changed.
  2. 00:36:070 (1) - Should end 1/2 earlier to match the music. There isn't anything playing on this tail. not really, I'm trying to catch the long vocal (but can't end on a red tick so it's on a white tick)
  3. 01:59:665 (1,1) - If you're trying to emphasize the vocal here, maybe a 3/1 slider would be more appropriate as the vocals end around that plus the tail would land on a beat. nice
  4. 03:25:957 (1,1) - Mainly because there isn't anything strong playing on the reverse, consider reducing these by 1/2 and then adding a circle after. It also lets you click 03:27:306 - and such which starts that guitar up. nah. i want players to hold their buttons here.
http://puu.sh/pYVI0/c45aba5412.rar
Irate
17 posts
Joined September 2015
Irate
Let me prefix this by admitting I'm not very experienced. I'll attempt a mod anyway.

[Insane]

01:25:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - The hitsounds here are barely audible, and I got thrown off while playing the map. Curious what the reason behind these were. Same applies to the other streams later on.

01:35:058 (5) - up until 01:38:092 (3) - This may be pedantic, but the triangle pattern has 19 notes, which is really odd as it's not divisible by 3. Maybe consider mapping 4 notes as a square pattern and then continue with a triangle for the remaining 15?

01:38:092 (3) - After this note you put in a fitting pause, but the HP continues to drain for another 2.5 seconds. Maybe insert the break a bit earlier if that's still possible.

01:53:598 (3) - Slightest of concerns, but this note doesn't correspond to any strong beat (it's a white tick after all), nor does it really to the voice as the sung syllable is currently ending and has a low intonation -- if this makes sense.

01:57:137 (2) - This note is also not corresponding to any beat, and the vocal is actually also entirely silent here.

03:38:598 (2,3,4,1) - This pattern is really hard to read due to the overlapping sliders.

That's about it. I feel you did a good job of making the rather repetitive song challenging while not overmapping it.
lit120
3,251 posts
Joined August 2013
lit120
m4m stuff

[altair]
  1. some of the blankets are off a bit so u might wanna recheck it xd (to check it precisely, try to change the CS when it comes to "checking blankets")
  2. 00:27:980 (1,2) - nice attempt on blanketing this, but it's not even perfect for me so LOL
  3. 00:33:373 (1,2) - ^
  4. 00:38:766 (1,2) - ^
  5. 00:41:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is some kind of illuminati stuff going on LOL
  6. 00:44:160 (1,2,1,2) - dat feeling when you can't blanket it properly :(
  7. 01:07:587 (2,3) - ^
  8. 01:35:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ok i can see why u did it on purpose LOL
  9. 01:54:272 (1,2) - wut's this off blanket?
  10. 02:09:272 (1,1) - neat, but almost rly neat blanket
brb got sth need to do
Logic Agent
483 posts
Joined April 2015
Logic Agent
Hi, m4m.

I'm gonna start off by saying I'm not the BEST at modding but I will try my best. A lot of things might be nitpicky or something about aesthetics, because honestly from what I've looked at so far this maps looks relatively clean and polished.

[Insane]
  1. 01:12:474 (1,2) - is this supposed to be blanketed?
[Altair]
  1. 01:25:957 - maybe you could make the volume of this build up? the intensity and loudness in the music works well with the streams
  2. 01:36:070 (5,6,7) - this angle is kinda very sudden and well more than likely lead to people breaking for no reason, and also you could further emphasize the cymbal on the 7
  3. 01:56:969 (1,2,3) - 2,3 is very weird in this pattern since 3 is a strong-ish beat but 3,4's distance is a LOT bigger
  4. 02:15:845 (1,2) - not sure how i feel about the stack here because for the most part you've kept the map moving even when the beats were even less strong than here
  5. 02:22:587 (1,2) - the spacing on this seems all of the sudden low.. maybe switch the pattern a little so that the 3 or 4 is the one blanketing into the 1 slider?
  6. 02:24:440 (2,3) - same as above but I'm not exactly sure what to reccommend here
  7. 02:44:160 (1,2) - ^ ima stop pointing these out though cause maybe you're onto something that I'm just not picking up
Again I'm sorry for the short mod, the Insane diff was one of the nicest I've seen in a long time, and Altair was just nitpicky stuff.. hope it helps either way!
Kroytz
703 posts
Joined February 2013
Topic Starter
Kroytz
Logic Agent

Logic Agent wrote:

Hi, m4m.

[Insane]
  1. 01:12:474 (1,2) - is this supposed to be blanketed? fixed it.
[Altair]
  1. 01:25:957 - maybe you could make the volume of this build up? the intensity and loudness in the music works well with the streams sounds like a good idea but I don't think it'd be very useful much.
  2. 01:36:070 (5,6,7) - this angle is kinda very sudden and well more than likely lead to people breaking for no reason, and also you could further emphasize the cymbal on the 7 mm it's mostly a pattern thing I have here (shia style shape endings).
  3. 01:56:969 (1,2,3) - 2,3 is very weird in this pattern since 3 is a strong-ish beat but 3,4's distance is a LOT bigger yeah this is another one of those patterned cases where emphasis isn't really shown. it's more to create a building finisher for this phrase before it heads into pre-chorus
  4. 02:15:845 (1,2) - not sure how i feel about the stack here because for the most part you've kept the map moving even when the beats were even less strong than here yeah, I tried to keep it moving a lot but here there's absence of vocal so that was why I had it stack
  5. 02:22:587 (1,2) - the spacing on this seems all of the sudden low.. maybe switch the pattern a little so that the 3 or 4 is the one blanketing into the 1 slider?
  6. 02:24:440 (2,3) - same as above but I'm not exactly sure what to reccommend here
  7. 02:44:160 (1,2) - ^ ima stop pointing these out though cause maybe you're onto something that I'm just not picking up It's basically low or soft vocals that I have these low spacing patterns.
Again I'm sorry for the short mod, the Insane diff was one of the nicest I've seen in a long time, and Altair was just nitpicky stuff.. hope it helps either way! thank you very much! ^^

lit120

lit120 wrote:

m4m stuff

[altair]
  1. some of the blankets are off a bit so u might wanna recheck it xd (to check it precisely, try to change the CS when it comes to "checking blankets")
  2. 00:27:980 (1,2) - nice attempt on blanketing this, but it's not even perfect for me so LOL
  3. 00:33:373 (1,2) - ^
  4. 00:38:766 (1,2) - ^
  5. 00:41:463 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is some kind of illuminati stuff going on LOL
  6. 00:44:160 (1,2,1,2) - dat feeling when you can't blanket it properly :(
  7. 01:07:587 (2,3) - ^
  8. 01:35:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ok i can see why u did it on purpose LOL
  9. 01:54:272 (1,2) - wut's this off blanket?
  10. 02:09:272 (1,1) - neat, but almost rly neat blanket
mercy, I mapped this on a really bad low-res laptop >< fixed the blankets I guess.

Irate

Irate wrote:

Let me prefix this by admitting I'm not very experienced. I'll attempt a mod anyway.

[Insane]

01:25:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - The hitsounds here are barely audible, and I got thrown off while playing the map. Curious what the reason behind these were. Same applies to the other streams later on. The rhythm here is inspired by Shia's difficulty in his set. I make the stream this way with custom for that wishing star noise that gets introduced. But most of this difficulty is based about Shia's difficulty in terms of rhythm and (somewhat) patterning.

01:35:058 (5) - up until 01:38:092 (3) - This may be pedantic, but the triangle pattern has 19 notes, which is really odd as it's not divisible by 3. Maybe consider mapping 4 notes as a square pattern and then continue with a triangle for the remaining 15? not really so much as to what it's divisible by but this rhythm again is taken from Shia's difficulty. The triangle theme here is kept consistent as well.

01:38:092 (3) - After this note you put in a fitting pause, but the HP continues to drain for another 2.5 seconds. Maybe insert the break a bit earlier if that's still possible. there's nothing being drained tho? ;o it's just a pause before the break is what that does. a e s t h e t i c

01:53:598 (3) - Slightest of concerns, but this note doesn't correspond to any strong beat (it's a white tick after all), nor does it really to the voice as the sung syllable is currently ending and has a low intonation -- if this makes sense. it's mostly just following syllable's of the japanese lyrics regardless of intonation.

01:57:137 (2) - This note is also not corresponding to any beat, and the vocal is actually also entirely silent here. it's just a 1/2 pattern for this measure to help build up into the last phrase.

03:38:598 (2,3,4,1) - This pattern is really hard to read due to the overlapping sliders. idk about 'really' hard but it's a design I like xp

That's about it. I feel you did a good job of making the rather repetitive song challenging while not overmapping it. very good awareness and sorry I cannot change much ^^;
But thank you very much Irate, much appreciated~

thank you all~
zev
462 posts
Joined September 2015
zev
yes, nomod i didn't forgot

[Insane]
00:38:261 (4) - is this supposed to be a blanket? maybe make this a blanket and make 00:37:249 (1,2,3) - look the same so its still fits
00:52:924 (3) - maybe lift the left slider point a bit http://puu.sh/qn35G/4afd8afffc.jpg
01:24:946 (3) - Why is there a finish on a slider end before a very acc sensitive stream? would look into it
01:57:643 (1) - I'm not really sure about the drum sample on here, maybe a soft finish with lower volume?
04:08:429 (5) - uhh sliderslide?
04:18:373 (1) - drum


yes, okay. hmm
Kroytz
703 posts
Joined February 2013
Topic Starter
Kroytz

zev wrote:

yes, nomod i didn't forgot

[Insane]
00:38:261 (4) - is this supposed to be a blanket? maybe make this a blanket and make 00:37:249 (1,2,3) - look the same so its still fits I tried working around it but couldn't really find a good spot for later combos all for a single blanket.
00:52:924 (3) - maybe lift the left slider point a bit http://puu.sh/qn35G/4afd8afffc.jpg not needed
01:24:946 (3) - Why is there a finish on a slider end before a very acc sensitive stream? would look into it sliders = clap. just so happens the finish is on the slider-end so yeah
01:57:643 (1) - I'm not really sure about the drum sample on here, maybe a soft finish with lower volume?
04:08:429 (5) - uhh sliderslide? fixed
04:18:373 (1) - drum ? theres no sound


yes, okay. hmm
ok
Mattof
9 posts
Joined November 2013
Mattof
I love it <3
ShiraKai
534 posts
Joined September 2010
ShiraKai
Lanturn

Lanturn wrote:

8 months.. 1 kd gg

Colors! add Colors!~
Because you don't have a SB or Video, It's highly suggested to use Letterbox In Breaks.

[Hard]
  1. 01:53:429 (2,3) - These offbeats feel a bit awkward to play. mostly because you don't really follow the vocals too much in this section 01:51:912 (2,3,4) - for example doesn't really follow it at all.. So it's definitely a sudden change. fix
  2. 02:20:901 (4) - Circle instead? u- no
  3. 03:36:744 (1) - Not sure what happened here. Is this slider supposed to look like this? I really do think a blanket would be more appropriate here.
    fix
  4. 04:09:103 (1,2) - I'd use a bit more spacing. This will easily get mistaken for a 1/1 not really
  5. 04:26:969 (2,3) - To emphasize the claps more, Try swapping these. The claps will be on dominant clicks and 04:27:306 - will be passive. yes
Yikes that SR gap. I'm pretty sure you'll need a light insane or something >_< i'm counting on kroytz for this :3

Ran out of time.. I'll take a look through Altair tomorrow. Just don't want my computer to restart on me so I'll post for now XD

Edit: I'm too lazy. ._.
thank you :3

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Korey
141 posts
Joined August 2013
Korey
Altair diff
02:09:272 (1) - the kink in this slider is off by 1/4 instead of at 02:09:693 - should be at 02:09:778 -
xLolicore-
636 posts
Joined June 2014
xLolicore-
:O!!!
Izzywing
osu! Alumni
2,248 posts
Joined March 2016
Izzywing
Well hello there

Will edit with rest of mod later

[Normal]

00:05:058 (2,3) - not a fan, the rhythm in the music is the exact same as the previous 3/2 reverse sliders, so you should use another 3/2 reverse slider here. there isn't really a sound on 00:05:733 - to justify its click ability
00:11:800 (1,2) - This overlap doesn't look very good, feels out of place
00:16:351 - Mm, this red tick has an important drum on it, so a 3/2 reverse slider would accurate represent the music better. Alternatively, something similar to 00:13:148 (2,3) -
00:21:238 (1) - not a necessary NC
00:25:283 (4) - Better to put the NCs on every other downbeat instead of an offbeat pattern, I get you're following the vocals but I don't think it makes more sense than being consistent with NCing the downbeats
01:21:912 (5) - Same thing about the NCing here

WIP

Altair

00:01:014 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This intro area is just spaced too much in general, also the blankets are awful here, I think you should redo this part even if you don't want to fix the spacing.
00:02:025 - Why is this mapped but not 00:03:373?
00:06:407 - I think this downbead 1should be clickable, reducing 3 to 1/2 and adding a circle should suffice (like you did 00:10:115 (3,1) - ) Also again the spacing feels very high in this general area, much higher than the music would suggest.
00:11:126 - mm why not map this? its a cool bell sound, could be a slide
00:15:845 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I don't really get this? There's not really constant 1/2 notes in the music to support this kind of jumpy pattern, so it really doesn't feel like it fits the music to me
00:20:733 (6,1) - the infamous xexxar overlap, something like this w/o the overlap is better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7214912
00:31:856 (1,2,3,4) - offbeat sliders are kinda bad, downbeat should be clickable for sure
00:32:867 (4,1,2) - Make these 3 set up like the corner of a square, so that you can make the blankets equal
00:34:721 (1,3) - Blanket
00:37:249 (1,2,3,4) - more offbeat sliders
00:49:216 (5) - I think this deserves more spacing, powerful vocal+clap
00:48:710 (2,3,4) - If you dont apply the above, copy paste and rotate this 60 degrees to get teh placement for 6 and 1
00:58:991 (1,2) - The rhythm here is not good, if it were followign vocals 00:59:160 - would be clickable and if it were following the music 00:59:497 - should be clickable, and right now its kinda just following nothing
01:09:946 (2) - there's no sound on this red tick, so it shouldn't be clickable
01:17:530 (5) - I think these kind of sliders where there's a vocal on the beat before the downbeat (tail of the slider), should be circles instead, this way that vocal is clickable
01:23:261 (1,4) - Not an overlap you would usually do
01:31:013 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is patterend as 1-4-5, but I think it should be 1-4-1-4, to correctly match the vocals+instruments
01:43:485 (1,2,3,4) - Consider changing the rhythm so that the sliderheads fall on the claps in the music, you don't have to do this though
02:11:463 (5) - Similar to the first kiai, rhythm isn't optimal, I think red ticks before the downbeats should be clickable.
02:12:643 (4,5) - weird flow, you're hitting 5 head on and then t sliderbody doesn't really follow the flow, perhaps rotate 5 a bit
02:13:992 (1,3) - 3 blankets the head of 1, but it ignores the sliderbody which makes this look weird
02:23:092 (2,3) - ctrl+G because I believe 2 deserves more spacing here (it is that strong red tick drum thingy)
02:30:171 (6) - Spacing here shouldn't be so small it makes the jump pattern awkward to play
03:36:744 (1,2,3,4,5) - You used this rhythm on the third measure of the previous kiais, but regardless I suggest the rhythm where you make both the clap and the red tick befroe the downbeats clickable
03:59:665 (1) - feels out of place (shapewise)
04:22:249 (4,2) - thats not a kroytz overlap
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Nerova Riuz GX
oh god this is like 1000 years ago

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00:05:058 (2,3) - not a fan, the rhythm in the music is the exact same as the previous 3/2 reverse sliders, so you should use another 3/2 reverse slider here. there isn't really a sound on 00:05:733 - to justify its click ability alright, that's good
00:11:800 (1,2) - This overlap doesn't look very good, feels out of place kk made some little adjustments
00:16:351 - Mm, this red tick has an important drum on it, so a 3/2 reverse slider would accurate represent the music better. Alternatively, something similar to 00:13:148 (2,3) - this is the most annoying thing while mapping low diffs on this song - vocals and drums work on two different beats. yeah it sounds important but i would rather just follow the vocal here since that's what i did the most
00:21:238 (1) - not a necessary NC k
00:25:283 (4) - Better to put the NCs on every other downbeat instead of an offbeat pattern, I get you're following the vocals but I don't think it makes more sense than being consistent with NCing the downbeats nop for vocal
01:21:912 (5) - Same thing about the NCing here same
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