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Hey, we've been waiting almost a year for this moment lol-Ryuujii- wrote:
Just wait -___- Geez. So impatient.
So hyped! Canada's not going to make it past group stage (as always). Still hyped.
Acuiasa wrote:
So hyped! Canada's not going to make it past group stage (as always). Still hyped.
Son, we'll win it all.
Will the people that don't become captain get to know who becomes captain?
No, the selected captain has to inform the players. It seems the captains selected were what was already predetermined by the team or at least in Canada's case.Zog wrote:
Will the people that don't become captain get to know who becomes captain?
Im pretty sure it was the Tournament Management that had to pick the captain according to the registration ruleset.MiruHong wrote:
No, the selected captain has to inform the players. It seems the captains selected were what was already predetermined by the team or at least in Canada's case.Zog wrote:
Will the people that don't become captain get to know who becomes captain?
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I was lucky picking the right one, uh? ;DMiruHong wrote:
No, the selected captain has to inform the players. It seems the captains selected were what was already predetermined by the team or at least in Canada's case.Zog wrote:
Will the people that don't become captain get to know who becomes captain?
Does that mean that the captains are already notified their positions ?Loctav wrote:
I was lucky picking the right one, uh? ;D
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some are, some are not. I will publish a list later
They will more than likely contact you.bolt997 wrote:
How will I know if I get drafted by my team captain?
And the first 7 countries are up!
This already looks to be a really competitive world cup already! Don't know about you guys, but I'm hyped!
This already looks to be a really competitive world cup already! Don't know about you guys, but I'm hyped!
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https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu!_World_Cup_ ... 87.2F32.29 I updated stuff a bit more
Ok now seriously what is the criteria for choosing teams, we had more than enough players for a team. And if we are talking about performance idk why NZ, Mexico, Philippines, Thailand, Greece and Singapore got instead of us.
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Spain slightly tied with Greece, but Greece provided better players in the average at the end. (based on who was a valid registree and did not violate the game rules)
EDIT: whoever is concerned, here is an overview of all countries that had more or equal to 6 valid registrations (minimum team size for the OWC is 6, maximum is 8). teams were first evaluated by total average pp, then by amount of top 2000 players, by top 1000 players, then by average pp of top 6 and average pp of top 8 players. This chart is sorted by average pp of top 6 players, however, with every measurement we used, we only got slightly different results, but we decided to be the top 6 of average pp to be the most accurate one for now to decide on tie cases like Greece and Spain.
http://puu.sh/kTxNI/785bc719c4.pdf
EDIT 2: Google Docs fucked up formulas. Fixed version: http://puu.sh/kTy7z/c26bbaf345.pdf
EDIT: whoever is concerned, here is an overview of all countries that had more or equal to 6 valid registrations (minimum team size for the OWC is 6, maximum is 8). teams were first evaluated by total average pp, then by amount of top 2000 players, by top 1000 players, then by average pp of top 6 and average pp of top 8 players. This chart is sorted by average pp of top 6 players, however, with every measurement we used, we only got slightly different results, but we decided to be the top 6 of average pp to be the most accurate one for now to decide on tie cases like Greece and Spain.
EDIT 2: Google Docs fucked up formulas. Fixed version: http://puu.sh/kTy7z/c26bbaf345.pdf
Apart from some players that actually BROKE the rules, I think none of the players with better rank broke any rule apart from spamming Tillerino...Loctav wrote:
Spain slightly tied with Greece, but Greece provided better players in the average at the end. (based on who was a valid registree and did not violate the game rules)
Edit: I think i wasn't clear enough, I mean the players that were actually going to play OWC and they were registered ( such as waaiiru, xelo ns, KHRiku, adrilolo9, Nazurin...) didnt break ANY since I've been playing this game.
Edit 2: Since when 5+2 = 6????????
This was the first OWC I could play, but I'm quite ashamed now. Looks like there's nothing we can do.
But, afaik, the players who broke the rules (Reifos as a example) didn't even registered so we could join.
So i don't think that I know which rules did waaiiru, xelo ns, KHRiku, Nazurin (who was unfairly restricted and unrestricted without a single word), adrilolo9 and me broke.
So i don't think that I know which rules did waaiiru, xelo ns, KHRiku, Nazurin (who was unfairly restricted and unrestricted without a single word), adrilolo9 and me broke.
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Contact tournaments@ppy.sh for thatNeko Sanae wrote:
But, afaik, the players who broke the rules (Reifos as a example) didn't even registered so we could join.
So i don't think that I know which rules did waaiiru, xelo ns, KHRiku, Nazurin (who was unfairly restricted and unrestricted without a single word), adrilolo9 and me broke.
GreeceIzen x wrote:
Apart from some players that actually BROKE the rules, I think none of the players with better rank broke any rule apart from spamming Tillerino...Loctav wrote:
Spain slightly tied with Greece, but Greece provided better players in the average at the end. (based on who was a valid registree and did not violate the game rules)
Riven-Rank:230
Tofas-Rank:654
ThePainG7-Rank:1101
SutiBu-Rank:1016
I Like Kimas-Rank:1164
JohnyZ-Rank:2126
Average: 1048,5
Spain
Waaiiru-Rank: 265
Xelo ns-Rank:361
KHRiku-Rank:551
Nazurin-Rank:1147
adrilolo9-Rank: 1606
Neko Sanae-Rank: 1927
Average: 804
We don't broke any rule, so this is not fair.
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That's a tough claim to make.adrilolo9 wrote:
We don't broke any rule, so this is not fair.
They either didn't sign up or they DID break the rules and just love to cover it up. The remaining 6 people were unable to match against Greece, so yeah. That's it.
6 players? We were 7, look at my second edit on the post I made before when possible please.Loctav wrote:
That's a tough claim to make.adrilolo9 wrote:
We don't broke any rule, so this is not fair.
They either didn't sign up or they DID break the rules and just love to cover it up. The remaining 6 people were unable to match against Greece, so yeah. That's it.
And that isn't a tough claim to make aswell? We know who signed up because we organised everything in our community.Loctav wrote:
adrilolo9 wrote:
We don't broke any rule, so this is not fair.
They either didn't sign up or they DID break the rules and just love to cover it up.
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Even if I would allow one player more from the list, you would still end up below Chile and nowhere outmatch Greece. I just calculated that out, again. We use the data on sign up, by the way.
i don't want to be arrogant or something but are you sure your data was correct?Loctav wrote:
Even if I would allow one player more from the list, you would still end up below Chile and nowhere outmatch Greece. I just calculated that out, again. We use the data on sign up, by the way.
Spain out of OWC... seems legitIzen x wrote:
i don't want to be arrogant or something but are you sure your data was correct?Loctav wrote:
Even if I would allow one player more from the list, you would still end up below Chile and nowhere outmatch Greece. I just calculated that out, again. We use the data on sign up, by the way.
Still wrong formulas...Loctav wrote:
EDIT 2: Google Docs fucked up formulas. Fixed version: http://puu.sh/kTy7z/c26bbaf345.pdf
no way man... at least if youre decided not to let us enter in the tournament dont edit 50 times your post, cause it seems that youre not even sure about it.Loctav wrote:
Spain slightly tied with Greece, but Greece provided better players in the average at the end. (based on who was a valid registree and did not violate the game rules)
EDIT: whoever is concerned, here is an overview of all countries that had more or equal to 6 valid registrations (minimum team size for the OWC is 6, maximum is 8). teams were first evaluated by total average pp, then by amount of top 2000 players, by top 1000 players, then by average pp of top 6 and average pp of top 8 players. This chart is sorted by average pp of top 6 players, however, with every measurement we used, we only got slightly different results, but we decided to be the top 6 of average pp to be the most accurate one for now to decide on tie cases like Greece and Spain.http://puu.sh/kTxNI/785bc719c4.pdf
EDIT 2: Google Docs fucked up formulas. Fixed version: http://puu.sh/kTy7z/c26bbaf345.pdf
He didn't even change the first one so...Izen x wrote:
Still wrong formulas...Loctav wrote:
EDIT 2: Google Docs fucked up formulas. Fixed version: http://puu.sh/kTy7z/c26bbaf345.pdf
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Formulas are correct now
Formulas are correct now...Not for Spain tho...Loctav wrote:
Formulas are correct now
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Also for Spain.
someone who is in top 1000 is also in top 2000, it's not 2+5
waaiiru, xelo ns and KHRiku were top1000 by the time to register.Nwolf wrote:
someone who is in top 1000 is also in top 2000, it's not 2+5
I think 2=/=3
You're right, I didnt think about that, I'm sorry. But there's still the highest rank error, waaiiru wasnt 34X when he registered, it's like they didnt count with him.Nwolf wrote:
someone who is in top 1000 is also in top 2000, it's not 2+5
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And now guess why
Izen x wrote:
You're right, I didnt think about that, I'm sorry. nut there's still the lowest rank error, waaiiru wasnt 34X when he registered, it's like they didnt count with him.Nwolf wrote:
someone who is in top 1000 is also in top 2000, it's not 2+5
They clearly didn't count on him, even if him being the best player on our country.
I can hardly guess something like that with my lack of information, but I haven't seen a single serious fault (100-200h) in his profile this year.Loctav wrote:
And now guess why
I'm fixing your formulas now.Loctav wrote:
And now guess why
This are Spain's stats.
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There is nothing to fix. Everyone who passed the registration conditions were included into the calculations correctly. They either did not sign up or they violated the rules. In the latter case, make them contact tournaments@ppy.sh and call it a day.
Loctav wrote:
There is nothing to fix. Everyone who passed the registration conditions were included into the calculations correctly. They either did not sign up or they violated the rules. In the latter case, make them contact tournaments@ppy.sh and call it a day.
waaiiru signed up and didn't broke any rules. He isn't counted in.
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One of your provided conditions does not apply then. In any case, waaiiru can discuss that with tournaments@ppy.sh
I checked the pdf like 10 times and you did change nothing at all.Loctav wrote:
Also for Spain.
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I am not going to reply to that anymore, as you obviously do not understand what I am saying. I just messed up 3-4 formulas on the top pp on a handful of columns, everything else works perfectly fine and is accurate. The doc does not show any mistakes, no further fixes are required. And I just repeat that to be sure: the doc does now show any mistakes, no further fixes are required.
Make everyone you think was excluded contact the mail address and stop disturbing this thread, please.
Make everyone you think was excluded contact the mail address and stop disturbing this thread, please.
Just listen to me, I think this is not correct, well you can do a mistake on doing the sheet, cause it's normal. But you are only sending the same link to the sheet again and again, saying that "now formulas are correct" but there's no change on it. We are saying you that Waaiiru is not in the sheet, so it's normal that this "formula" is wrong. And the only thing you are saying is: contact with tournaments@ppy.sh all the time. I enjoy so much osu! but I think people need to be fair doing things. And as I said this is not. I sent you an excel with the correct Spanish stats, with Waaiiru in it, and you just say, this is not correct. I was doing the average of Waaiiru, Xelo ns, KHRiku, Nazurin, adrilolo9 (me) and Neko Sanae, and we have more average than other teams that are accepted. I am just saying the truth, if I told any lies just ban meLoctav wrote:
One of your provided conditions does not apply then. In any case, waaiiru can discuss that with tournaments@ppy.sh
Let's be clear.
Stop bringing your issues here.
If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh
Consider it as a final warning, any try to bring this topic here again will be removed from this thread.
Stop bringing your issues here.
If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh
Consider it as a final warning, any try to bring this topic here again will be removed from this thread.
Thanks for all the work put into this. A little bit gutted to see that Switzerland didn't get in, until I saw that we didn't have enough registrees (whoops :p). Will look forward to watching this year though 
. Anyways, OWC, is a big goal for many of our players and I'm sure we'll all continue to strive for that goal in the coming year. Best of luck to all teams accepted!
. Anyways, OWC, is a big goal for many of our players and I'm sure we'll all continue to strive for that goal in the coming year. Best of luck to all teams accepted! Unfortunately Venezuela wasn't able to qualify this year aswell 
Oh well...
We'll be looking forward for next year's OWC!
Good luck to all participants
Oh well...We'll be looking forward for next year's OWC!
Good luck to all participants
I don't like seeing this kind of drama happen like it did last year, since it was blown way out of proportion. I agree with the points Loctav is making (surprisingly as it may seem to some), and it's a bit ignorant to hold grudges from last year's World Cup.
However
I don't agree with :
I feel like maybe restricting the player who violated a minor rule to be restricted to playing a certain number of maps? Don't know, just throwing a random idea I just thought of out there. I'm sure the tournament staff could figure this out better than I could, and I'm sure that you realize something like multiaccounting or acting like a douchebag is enough to be banned from the World cup is silly. I can list countless dicks in real sports / e-sports that never have such a harsh, (and yes I'm using the word harsh because this is like the one officially sponsored tournament for osu! std that people actually look forward to), punishment for being rude.
However much we like to blame Loctav, he's doing these things for a reason. He's not petty enough to decide these things out of spite. We should trust Loctav's decisions at times because he DID manage OWC 2013 that everyone loved so much...
However the lack of proper communication, let alone respect is astonishing. In no other community, not even the most toxic, have I seen a mod openly call people out and act rudely. Sure you aren't getting respect either, but you're a fucking mod. If you acted a bit, just a bit more understanding and respectful, maybe there wouldn't be so many people hating on the decisions that you've made simply because they don't like you.
Anyways, I hope we have an awesome World Cup like 2013!
USA! USA! (wait Kablaze is banned?)
TAIWAN! TAIWAN!
However
I don't agree with :
This isn't a random tournament. This is the World Cup. The best a country can bring vs the best a country can bring. What we are seeing (last year as well) is 1 - 3 of a country's best players are being banned from playing. Of course I understand the rules and such, but like any sport or e-sport for that matter, you don't see this kind of reinforcement anywhere. A player who hasn't violated any serious rules, such as hacking and so on, should have some sort of leniency. Why is there such a draconian policy on a minor violation? In sports, you don't see a foul result in them not being able to play in the finals of an event.Loctav wrote:
I am sure there are other people more than happy to join this competition. If you are so salty about everything, better leave the spot for people who actually enjoy these things.
I feel like maybe restricting the player who violated a minor rule to be restricted to playing a certain number of maps? Don't know, just throwing a random idea I just thought of out there. I'm sure the tournament staff could figure this out better than I could, and I'm sure that you realize something like multiaccounting or acting like a douchebag is enough to be banned from the World cup is silly. I can list countless dicks in real sports / e-sports that never have such a harsh, (and yes I'm using the word harsh because this is like the one officially sponsored tournament for osu! std that people actually look forward to), punishment for being rude.
However much we like to blame Loctav, he's doing these things for a reason. He's not petty enough to decide these things out of spite. We should trust Loctav's decisions at times because he DID manage OWC 2013 that everyone loved so much...
However the lack of proper communication, let alone respect is astonishing. In no other community, not even the most toxic, have I seen a mod openly call people out and act rudely. Sure you aren't getting respect either, but you're a fucking mod. If you acted a bit, just a bit more understanding and respectful, maybe there wouldn't be so many people hating on the decisions that you've made simply because they don't like you.
Anyways, I hope we have an awesome World Cup like 2013!
USA! USA! (wait Kablaze is banned?)
TAIWAN! TAIWAN!
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The conditions of the world cup are known for over 2 years now. I am not bothering to buy anyone any leniency, because they had 1 entire year to adjust since the drama of the last year.
This is our tournament, our time, our money, our dedication. We make the conditions for joining. And if you don't meet this conditions, you can not join. It's simple as that.
This is our tournament, our time, our money, our dedication. We make the conditions for joining. And if you don't meet this conditions, you can not join. It's simple as that.
You know why other sports and e-sports give players some leniency to players for "minor" infractions? It's because Sports and e-Sports have stadiums to host audiences and television deals to draw more audiences. And when players are not playing those sports, viewership and attendance counts drop, which costs them millions in revenue and hurts future stadium leases and television deals in the long run. In other words, when a player commits a infraction against the league rules, major sports and e-Sports are forced to sacrifice their integrity for the sake of profiting their business in the long run.Noki wrote:
This isn't a random tournament. This is the World Cup. The best a country can bring vs the best a country can bring. What we are seeing (last year as well) is 1 - 3 of a country's best players are being banned from playing. Of course I understand the rules and such, but like any sport or e-sport for that matter, you don't see this kind of reinforcement anywhere. A player who hasn't violated any serious rules, such as hacking and so on, should have some sort of leniency. Why is there such a draconian policy on a minor violation? In sports, you don't see a foul result in them not being able to play in the finals of an event.
tl;dr, major sports and e-sports can give "leniency" to players with "minor infractions" because the consumers' code of dollar signs is more important than the players' code of conduct.
Look at osu! → We don't have stadiums to hosts big events, and the only place to view the world cup is a random online Twitch channel that doesn't have a subscribe button. We don't make money. Therefore, if a player breaks code of conduct, technically, the tournament staff has nothing to lose in punishing a player for violating the terms of service. From the osu! staff's point of view, the point of the World Cup is to showcase the game, not the players. That's what it all comes down to.
Kreygasm, can't wait to see top 5 players clash each other.
WWW + Rafis , Hvick and index_ woooo
Rip Japan, no-one from their top 5 applied for OWC
WWW + Rafis , Hvick and index_ woooo
Rip Japan, no-one from their top 5 applied for OWC
NZ has played most if not all owc. We don't perform particularly well, but we did and still do qualify in the top 32 which gives us the right to play.Neko Sanae wrote:
Ok now seriously what is the criteria for choosing teams, we had more than enough players for a team. And if we are talking about performance idk why NZ, Mexico, Philippines, Thailand, Greece and Singapore got instead of us.
It's offensive that you list "weaker" countries to make yourself look better as a counter-argument. It is an asshole statement to make towards the countries you list and I am glad that you aren't able to participate this year.
And by the way, NZ has better on-paper stats than Spain even if your intended roster were to register.
edit: Reading your reddit posts, I'm even more glad that you're not participating. A country that wants to publicize their issues rather than confront management and also feels that entitled to play without reaching the expectations shouldn't be playing.
Maybe should we have something like 'Qualifier round' next year?
I mean, if your country is far from the first 32 then it will be unlikely that you will ever get in.
In my opinion, I think every country should have a chance to prove themselves that they're strong and good enough for the world cup
Just in my opinion though.
I mean, if your country is far from the first 32 then it will be unlikely that you will ever get in.
In my opinion, I think every country should have a chance to prove themselves that they're strong and good enough for the world cup
Just in my opinion though.
Based on the spread sheet, Indonesia is not going to participate in the world cup?
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.. but the group stage are the qualifier rounds? :CElectoz wrote:
Maybe should we have something like 'Qualifier round' next year?
I mean, if your country is far from the first 32 then it will be unlikely that you will ever get in.
In my opinion, I think every country should have a chance to prove themselves that they're strong and good enough for the world cup
Just in my opinion though.
that is correct by now.bolt997 wrote:
Based on the spread sheet, Indonesia is not going to participate in the world cup?
Next year for the last 8 spots, do a qualification round.
Like the best 24 countries auto-qualified, but the remaining 8 spots can be taken by any countries.
Like the best 24 countries auto-qualified, but the remaining 8 spots can be taken by any countries.
Why? The OWC is meant to be the best, so they get the top 32 (statistically) best teams.tryaway wrote:
Next year for the last 8 spots, do a qualification round.
Like the best 24 countries auto-qualified, but the remaining 8 spots can be taken by any countries.
How about the other countries just put in more effort to get a higher rank, so they can qualify? Any country that has better statistics should have priority over the ones below it.tryaway wrote:
Next year for the last 8 spots, do a qualification round.
Like the best 24 countries auto-qualified, but the remaining 8 spots can be taken by any countries.
It's really not that hard to comprehend. You have a whole year to dedicate yourself into getting a better rank to qualify for owc. And if a superb player is being held back by the rest of the players in their country, well tough luck. OWC is a team-comp tournament. If your team lacks the skill or effort to be statistically better in a whole year, then let other teams that did put in the effort go through.
A qualifier round sounds pretty good, actually. Many sports and e-sports do this. Of course, this means more matches to organize, but it also ensures a fairer outcome in the end. Rank only says so much compared to performing with OWC rules. There's a bit of a trough towards August-October in world cup action, so this could be an idea to hold signups sooner and gather, say, 8 countries fighting for 4 spots and have them do a round robin.
I think players are misunderstanding their positions (not trying to offend anyone), if you aren't in the top 8 (or even 16) you should be privileged to even play in OWC. Group stages are meant to weed out the weak teams and having a qualifier is redundant since 32 countries is already spreading the player base thin. Nobody has time to organize something that is pointless and the end result (Bo16) would be the same regardless the amount of gauntlets.Mr Color wrote:
A qualifier round sounds pretty good, actually. Many sports and e-sports do this. Of course, this means more matches to organize, but it also ensures a fairer outcome in the end. Rank only says so much compared to performing with OWC rules. There's a bit of a trough towards August-October in world cup action, so this could be an idea to hold signups sooner and gather, say, 8 countries fighting for 4 spots and have them do a round robin.
This is just my 2 cents and from a perspective of a player who spent since OWC 2014 to qualify for this year's OWC.
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Consider the single player mode as a one year lasting qualification stage then...
Well, I don't mind that much if more qualification rounds will exist or not.
But I think I should clarify my point here.
- If we really held more qualification rounds, I think more problems will come up tbh, but I think the problem is every country deserve at least a chance, let's say there's a country that has 1 strong player and 7 weaker players. In real game, that 1 person may fc and led his team to victory. I think to be judged statistically is pretty fair, but for those who are far from the first 32 will never have a chance to prove themselves. Also, I think everyone want to see the best player in their country competing.
- [Just my own preference] If we judged statistically every year, I think the teams will be not much different. To see almost the same teams every year, it could be a little bit more exciting if we could see some new faces in the world cup.
I didn't say that we should or should not make more qualifier rounds. I just point out something in my opinion as a suggestion that there are something that shouldn't be overlooked.
Well, I don't mind if you guys opposed to this but at least take this as a single suggestion, just an another perspective
But I think I should clarify my point here.
- If we really held more qualification rounds, I think more problems will come up tbh, but I think the problem is every country deserve at least a chance, let's say there's a country that has 1 strong player and 7 weaker players. In real game, that 1 person may fc and led his team to victory. I think to be judged statistically is pretty fair, but for those who are far from the first 32 will never have a chance to prove themselves. Also, I think everyone want to see the best player in their country competing.
- [Just my own preference] If we judged statistically every year, I think the teams will be not much different. To see almost the same teams every year, it could be a little bit more exciting if we could see some new faces in the world cup.
I didn't say that we should or should not make more qualifier rounds. I just point out something in my opinion as a suggestion that there are something that shouldn't be overlooked.
Well, I don't mind if you guys opposed to this but at least take this as a single suggestion, just an another perspective
Thing is that the e-sports that do this is because there are probably no ladders or leagues they are basing their teams seeding on.Mr Color wrote:
A qualifier round sounds pretty good, actually. Many sports and e-sports do this. Of course, this means more matches to organize, but it also ensures a fairer outcome in the end. Rank only says so much compared to performing with OWC rules. There's a bit of a trough towards August-October in world cup action, so this could be an idea to hold signups sooner and gather, say, 8 countries fighting for 4 spots and have them do a round robin.
A lot of the smaller tournaments in csgo are based on the teams positions on a ladder. It's easier to think of the pp rankings as a sort of ladder qualifying system, I guess.
If we judged statistically every year, I think the teams will be not much different. To see almost the same teams every year, it could be a little bit more exciting if we could see some new faces in the world cup.look at e-sports, there are allmost all the time the same teams competing and we still watch it, i don't see the point in this..
And like it is stated many times, you have a year inbetween OWC's to practice and rank up for qualification to OWC.. I worked my butt off since OWC'14, and so did few others, and we got to OWC. Just stop this mindless nag, and start practicing / ranking for OWC'16. Loctav has better things to do i think.
I'm proud for finns getting in on such a high placing, even tho we are fairly small country. And im sure spaniards are dissapointed bc they arent in, but if they truly are better than some top 32 teams they should prove it for next year by getting the PP needed.Poofie wrote:
Loctav has better things to doi think.
Why tournament managements don't tell me about that what is my fault?
They just say "It's your fault" don't tell what that is.
I want see the reason of my ban!
They just say "It's your fault" don't tell what that is.
I want see the reason of my ban!
Enon wrote:
Why tournament managements don't tell me about that what is my fault?
They just say "It's your fault" don't tell what that is.
I want see the reason of my ban!
Loctav wrote:
Contact tournaments@ppy.sh for that
that is correct by now.[/quote]bolt997 wrote:
Based on the spread sheet, Indonesia is not going to participate in the world cup?
I thought registration was over? Is there any other way to get one more member to join?
bolt997 wrote:
bolt997 wrote:
Based on the spread sheet, Indonesia is not going to participate in the world cup?I thought registration was over? Is there any other way to get one more member to join?Loctav wrote:
that is correct by now.
Registration is over, it's time for the selected country to pick their possible member.
It's impossible to get any more member to register right now.
And yeah, currently Indonesia won't be in osu! World Cup 2015 for now.
Me too, but too bad we couldn't qualify. However, we'll do our best to get our country players to another level for next year.Poofie wrote:
I worked my butt off since OWC'14, and so did few others.
Trying to prove anything to the tournament management is like arguing with a 5 years old; they will just say they are right you are wrong and anything you say will have zero effect.
You thought I'd start shit again because Hungary hasn't been able to participate 3 years in a row, huh? Not this time.
Forcing players to register who don't want to is okay but letting people who want to play and most likely did nothing groundbreakingly wrong is absolutely out of the question.Endaris wrote:
Based on the amount of players available spain could have easily got a team that is statistically way above the requirements yet only 7 people even managed to register.
You thought I'd start shit again because Hungary hasn't been able to participate 3 years in a row, huh? Not this time.
Asking players and encouraging them to register = forcing them to register, okay._verto_ wrote:
Forcing players to register who don't want to is okay but letting people who want to play and most likely did nothing groundbreakingly wrong is absolutely out of the question.
If I was some 5k pp player I would waste more thoughts over a registration if someone asked me nicely and even gives me references who else registered opposed to me living in a nutshell with none communicating to me about OWC aside from the symbol on the osu! starting screen.
That's you. Most high ranked players who don't register either dislike participating in tournaments or has had enough of the bullshit that happens along with it.Endaris wrote:
Asking players and encouraging them to register = forcing them to register, okay._verto_ wrote:
Forcing players to register who don't want to is okay but letting people who want to play and most likely did nothing groundbreakingly wrong is absolutely out of the question.
If I was some 5k pp player I would waste more thoughts over a registration if someone asked me nicely and even gives me references who else registered opposed to me living in a nutshell with none communicating to me about OWC aside from the symbol on the osu! starting screen.
Gonna quote it because some couldn't read.Krah wrote:
Stop bringing your issues here.
If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh
Cleaned the thread a bit. Don't force me to do it again or silences will surely come with it.
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Given the fact that one Portuguese player forfeited, we might have to reconsider their participation, as the minimum team size is 6 and not 5.
Japan looks so weak compared to previous years I honestly think they'll place 5th-8th.
At least we get to see Reimus RSI plays- yogurt - wrote:
Japan looks so weak compared to previous years I honestly think they'll place 5th-8th.
Xilver, Natalia, Axarious, Ritzeh, Seouless, 0120, Zodiaack, [Toy]That's a pretty scary roster. Probably the best one the USA has made out of any year so far. Such a shame SG picked this year to hang it up.
I think that would be too much for them.- yogurt - wrote:
Japan looks so weak compared to previous years I honestly think they'll place 5th-8th.
Roro Rosset, Super Arrow, and two 3k players? wtf?
Where is kablaze though?Xayne wrote:
That's a pretty scary roster. Probably the best one the USA has made out of any year so far. Such a shame SG picked this year to hang it up.
At least there's Mercurius, OhAHO and Poruteri. Top3 will probably be Poland, China and USA/Korea, based on lineups that have been confirmed. Germany has a potential to have a really good team again too.Neko Sanae wrote:
I think that would be too much for them.
Roro Rosset, Super Arrow, and two 3k players? wtf?
Tbh Polish team is so stacked I don't see us not winning the whole thing. Our year boys.
Both Japan and South Korea's rosters seem really lackluster. I wonder if their players simply didn't want to play in the OWC or were they denied participation due to some violation during the last year.
Another question mark is wobeinimacao for China. China's team looks scary even without him, but with him they would have been absolute beasts.
Latvia's team actually looks very good. They could get far in this tournament.
Another question mark is wobeinimacao for China. China's team looks scary even without him, but with him they would have been absolute beasts.
Latvia's team actually looks very good. They could get far in this tournament.
Man, Japan's top players must be busy this year. We have a near complete new set of players. Mecurius and Poruteri are back. I still have hope for Japan to do pretty well this year....
Tbh Polish team is so stacked I don't see us not winning the whole thing. Our year boys.What a nonsense, let them play the game first please.
Do not look at ranking and other stuff like that, we have Poland, China, US, Japan, Germany, Korea, Taiwan, Canada (in no particular order), this gonna be interesting.
When did you become Mexican lol now Mexico team looks scaryKevEz wrote:
Dont forget Mexico guys
Oh yeah.
Maybe this has already been addressed since I don't follow the spectator client at all, but it would be nice if we could get rid of those ugly yellow names that covers up parts of the gameplay, and integrate player names into the actual design itself. Those names really feel out of place in an otherwise pretty nice looking design. Misses can be indicated by a red box or something around the player's square or something.
Maybe this has already been addressed since I don't follow the spectator client at all, but it would be nice if we could get rid of those ugly yellow names that covers up parts of the gameplay, and integrate player names into the actual design itself. Those names really feel out of place in an otherwise pretty nice looking design. Misses can be indicated by a red box or something around the player's square or something.
Same bullshit different year. Something to do with him breaking a rule 16 years ago.- yogurt - wrote:
Where is kablaze though?Xayne wrote:
That's a pretty scary roster. Probably the best one the USA has made out of any year so far. Such a shame SG picked this year to hang it up.
second this, looks really bad when their names are very long alsoCXu wrote:
Oh yeah.
Maybe this has already been addressed since I don't follow the spectator client at all, but it would be nice if we could get rid of those ugly yellow names that covers up parts of the gameplay, and integrate player names into the actual design itself. Those names really feel out of place in an otherwise pretty nice looking design. Misses can be indicated by a red box or something around the player's square or something.
the bottom right corner of each screen is a pretty nice place to put it i think, just decrease the font size. Or even just add a name tab below their screen
This would be nice. Some of the names, if they are long, block out the score and acc. Relocating it would be nice.CXu wrote:
Oh yeah.
Maybe this has already been addressed since I don't follow the spectator client at all, but it would be nice if we could get rid of those ugly yellow names that covers up parts of the gameplay, and integrate player names into the actual design itself. Those names really feel out of place in an otherwise pretty nice looking design. Misses can be indicated by a red box or something around the player's square or something.
I was try to discuss about can't understand banning from the tournament.
but they probably don't want discuss with me, they deleted my post xD
but they probably don't want discuss with me, they deleted my post xD
If fou don't understand your ban. It seems like nothing to discuss about.
Krah wrote:
Gonna quote it because some couldn't read.Krah wrote:
Stop bringing your issues here.
If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh
Krah wrote:
Gonna quote it because some couldn't read.Krah wrote:
Stop bringing your issues here.
If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh
Cleaned the thread a bit. Don't force me to do it again or silences will surely come with it.
People Lie
I've seen a lot of complaints about Finals in Loser Bracket, Match for the Finals coming from Loser's Bracket and the actual Finals sharing the same map-pool last year as Japan ended up playing the Final Map Pool for a whopping 5 sets: 1 vs USA, 1 vs South Korea, 1 vs Germany and 2 vs Poland.
While it seems to be kind of stupid to me to make a new map pool exclusively for the final Final it's the only way to fit the schedule(PQ on a separate weekend while loser's bracket finals+"third-place" finals are on the same). Anyway I think variation would be greatly appreciated.
Another option would be tackling the schedule as in moving the AE to the same weekend as PQ but having AE played on Sa and PQ on Su. That way an additional mappool would be used for 2-3 sets and the winner of AE would have enough time to mentally prepare for PQ.
Just some thoughts as the 5 sets of the final pool by Japan were experienced as a bit lame.
While it seems to be kind of stupid to me to make a new map pool exclusively for the final Final it's the only way to fit the schedule(PQ on a separate weekend while loser's bracket finals+"third-place" finals are on the same). Anyway I think variation would be greatly appreciated.
Another option would be tackling the schedule as in moving the AE to the same weekend as PQ but having AE played on Sa and PQ on Su. That way an additional mappool would be used for 2-3 sets and the winner of AE would have enough time to mentally prepare for PQ.
Just some thoughts as the 5 sets of the final pool by Japan were experienced as a bit lame.
Agreed.
RIP Japan
RIP South Korea
Poland's roster doe.
Also the US, Axarious man.
Srry Taiwan can't compete with the US and Poland, maybe like 3-8th
We need US vs Poland match
Honestly the one i most anticipate.
RIP South Korea
Poland's roster doe.
Also the US, Axarious man.
Srry Taiwan can't compete with the US and Poland, maybe like 3-8th
We need US vs Poland match
Honestly the one i most anticipate.
busy with lifew4ts wrote:
where is rrtyui !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!