CypCypCyprian wrote:

zajebiste

khy200610140 wrote:

好有意思的圖

Feb wrote:

thequalitymod

2015-10-10 21:48 Kalibe: Hi Feb
2015-10-10 21:48 Feb: wasup
2015-10-10 21:48 Feb: o/
2015-10-10 21:48 Kalibe: \o M4M?
2015-10-10 21:49 Feb: on what
2015-10-10 21:49 Kalibe: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/787398 nano - Bull's Eye]
2015-10-10 21:49 Kalibe: and my map
2015-10-10 21:49 Kalibe: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/797431 Ayane - Arrival of Tears]
2015-10-10 21:49 Feb: gimme a sec
2015-10-10 21:50 Feb: bancho pls
2015-10-10 21:50 Feb: ...
2015-10-10 21:52 Kalibe: hate bancho
2015-10-10 21:52 Feb: huh from where do i know this
2015-10-10 21:52 Kalibe: this?
2015-10-10 21:52 Feb: your map
2015-10-10 21:52 Kalibe: so don't mod ky's diff right?
2015-10-10 21:53 Kalibe: oh
2015-10-10 21:53 Feb: you still can
2015-10-10 21:53 Feb: you can now*
2015-10-10 21:53 Kalibe: just love this song
2015-10-10 21:53 Kalibe: oke
2015-10-10 21:53 Feb: I don't mind modding it
2015-10-10 21:54 Feb: your style is pretty confusing holy cow
2015-10-10 21:54 Kalibe: D:
2015-10-10 21:54 Feb: イレブンアイズ
2015-10-10 21:54 Feb: use that as source
2015-10-10 21:55 Feb: and put 11eyes into tags
2015-10-10 21:55 Feb: wait.
2015-10-10 21:55 Feb: can I do yours first?
2015-10-10 21:55 Kalibe: kay
2015-10-10 21:55 Feb: since your online and stuff
2015-10-10 21:55 Feb: 11 eyes is the anime right?
2015-10-10 21:56 Kalibe: um yea
2015-10-10 21:56 Feb: yea put that as source
2015-10-10 21:56 Feb: then
2015-10-10 21:56 Kalibe: and video game too
2015-10-10 21:56 Feb: http://myanimelist.net/anime/6682/11eyes
2015-10-10 21:56 Feb: it states as japanese title
2015-10-10 21:56 Feb: always put japanese title as source
2015-10-10 21:57 Feb: or the other way around
2015-10-10 21:57 Feb: yea I have dc right now..
2015-10-10 21:57 Kalibe: done
2015-10-10 21:57 Feb: okay gimme a sec
2015-10-10 21:57 Feb: I look over it once 
2015-10-10 21:58 Feb: let editor play u know
2015-10-10 21:58 Kalibe: ;)
2015-10-10 22:02 Feb: okay the first thing i say I think the main "problem" in the map is that you use your style not consistent enough
2015-10-10 22:02 Feb: this might be a hughe problem when It comes to concept
2015-10-10 22:02 Feb: you know what I mean with concept?
2015-10-10 22:02 Kalibe: um maybe yea
2015-10-10 22:03 Feb: so I mean with concept - You have a style like that mini overlapping for example you do and sightread patterns
2015-10-10 22:03 Feb: do them consistent there are a few places where you use none of that
2015-10-10 22:04 Feb: and are you mapping vocals or music
2015-10-10 22:05 Feb: 00:14:895 (2) - continue pattern?
2015-10-10 22:05 Feb: there's a clear triplet there
2015-10-10 22:05 Feb: you don't have to map it, but it sounds just wrong otherwise you can just use 1/4 and a note
2015-10-10 22:06 Feb: yea you are mapping vocal idk If i can help here alot since I map only the music usually.
2015-10-10 22:09 Feb: 00:21:945 (2) - yo no slidertail on downbeat that it plays horribly.
2015-10-10 22:09 Feb: listen to the song and hear the big white tick out
2015-10-10 22:09 Feb: its super strong and it's unclickable.
2015-10-10 22:10 Kalibe: yea, you're right
2015-10-10 22:10 Kalibe: fixed
2015-10-10 22:11 Feb: 00:28:995 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - how about making a stack on slider
2015-10-10 22:11 Feb: like this
2015-10-10 22:11 Feb: http://puu.sh/kFukP/f8204e2b1d.jpg
2015-10-10 22:11 Feb: it make the pause not to awkward
2015-10-10 22:12 Feb: 00:34:095 (4,5,6) - why didn't you continue 1/4 pattern o.O
2015-10-10 22:13 Feb: 00:33:195 (4,5,6) - the stack here is random. place it ony a white if really need to emphasize the beat
2015-10-10 22:13 Feb: the read tick is super awkward to hit. 
2015-10-10 22:13 Feb: i wouldn't say anything if there was clear sound or sth but theres nothing
2015-10-10 22:15 Feb: 00:37:395 (4,5) - stack it on the 1/2 ppl don't expect to jump back from a double to where they came from
2015-10-10 22:16 Feb: 00:43:020 (3) - theres no sound
2015-10-10 22:16 Feb: but theres a note o.o
2015-10-10 22:17 Feb: 00:43:995 (5) - remove this note theres nothing
2015-10-10 22:17 Feb: 00:43:695 (4) - idc here about slidertail at the end bcs theres a pause if you'd remove the note
2015-10-10 22:17 Feb: otherwise I'd point that out
2015-10-10 22:18 Feb: 00:53:745 (3,1) - sth like this breaks the flow in this high of a starrating
2015-10-10 22:18 Feb: you can space the streams from the 1/4
2015-10-10 22:19 Feb: you don't have to keep them close
2015-10-10 22:19 Feb: 00:56:145 (2) - where's the clap 
2015-10-10 22:20 Kalibe: ouups
2015-10-10 22:21 Feb: 01:05:445 (1,2,3) - sharp angle
2015-10-10 22:22 Feb: sometimes your flow is spot on and sometimes its just that it's superweird
2015-10-10 22:22 Feb: to mod this properly lmao 
2015-10-10 22:22 Feb: no offense xd
2015-10-10 22:23 Kalibe: xD
2015-10-10 22:23 Feb: 01:06:495 (1) - slidertail on downbeat
2015-10-10 22:24 Feb: 01:09:045 (1) - 
2015-10-10 22:24 Feb: this should be ctrl+j
2015-10-10 22:24 Feb: hello? stacks here please too if you do it before
2015-10-10 22:24 Feb: 01:13:395 (5,6) - 
2015-10-10 22:25 Feb: its basically the same
2015-10-10 22:25 Feb: 01:18:345 (1) - randum spinner
2015-10-10 22:25 Feb: you could easily map that o.O
2015-10-10 22:26 Feb: 01:20:145 (5,6) - same
2015-10-10 22:26 Feb: give it a stack
2015-10-10 22:26 Feb: 01:20:595 (7,1) - stack it too
2015-10-10 22:26 Feb: or make the 7 more emphasized with more distance
2015-10-10 22:27 Feb: 01:23:145 (6,1) - why is nothing mapped here?
2015-10-10 22:27 Feb: inbetween those notes i mean
2015-10-10 22:28 Feb: theres a clear note there
2015-10-10 22:28 Feb: 01:33:045 (4,5,6,7) - that's what I meant with concept
2015-10-10 22:29 Feb: you always dd those overlapping jumps
2015-10-10 22:29 Feb: now it seems suddenly you changed your mind
2015-10-10 22:29 Feb: midwaytrough
2015-10-10 22:29 Feb: either overlap them or don't
2015-10-10 22:29 Feb: it really messes up the style of your map
2015-10-10 22:29 Feb: and feels confusing to the player
2015-10-10 22:31 Feb: 01:42:345 (2) - slidertail on downbeat
2015-10-10 22:32 Feb: 01:46:095 (1,2) - same sound
2015-10-10 22:32 Feb: 01:45:495 (4,5,6) - 
2015-10-10 22:32 Kalibe: omg i'm so bad
2015-10-10 22:32 Feb: like here
2015-10-10 22:32 Kalibe: xD
2015-10-10 22:32 Feb: but no triplet here :(
2015-10-10 22:32 Feb: 01:47:145 (1) - slidertail on downbeast
2015-10-10 22:32 Feb: beat*
2015-10-10 22:33 Kalibe: circle spam
2015-10-10 22:33 Feb: can i make you little picture on sliderflow?
2015-10-10 22:33 Feb: in paint or sth xd
2015-10-10 22:33 Kalibe: okay
2015-10-10 22:33 Kalibe: xD
2015-10-10 22:33 Feb: there are a few places where your sliders are really bad at flowing into other circles
2015-10-10 22:36 Feb: http://puu.sh/kFvYz/8693db57b9.jpg
2015-10-10 22:37 Feb: skillz
2015-10-10 22:37 Feb: you see it's really important where your slider is pointing too
2015-10-10 22:37 Kalibe: master of paint
2015-10-10 22:37 Feb: in extra's not so much, because the maps are usually so fast you don't notice where it is going 
2015-10-10 22:37 Kalibe: okay i'll remember it
2015-10-10 22:38 Feb: if you know what I mean the curve of an slider effects how the player is positioning himself afterwards
2015-10-10 22:39 Kalibe: ye
2015-10-10 22:39 Feb: 02:09:195 (5,6) - ctrlg those
2015-10-10 22:40 Feb: 02:12:645 (1) - weird nc? for pattern or wut
2015-10-10 22:40 Kalibe: yea for pattern but i remove it
2015-10-10 22:40 Kalibe: xD
2015-10-10 22:41 Feb: if its for the pattern in can stay actually
2015-10-10 22:41 Kalibe: oky
2015-10-10 22:41 Feb: btw.
2015-10-10 22:41 Feb: 02:25:095 (5,1) - 
2015-10-10 22:42 Feb: you use them too much
2015-10-10 22:42 Feb: this is counterflow
2015-10-10 22:42 Feb: in rare cases it works well
2015-10-10 22:42 Feb: but in your map there's not really many places you can use them
2015-10-10 22:42 Kalibe: fixd
2015-10-10 22:43 Feb: 02:30:045 (1) - would be example where you could use it
2015-10-10 22:43 Feb: but theres no 1/4 
2015-10-10 22:43 Feb: so daheg
2015-10-10 22:43 Kalibe: 02:30:045 (1) - you think this 1/4 is good?
2015-10-10 22:43 Feb: no its horrible there
2015-10-10 22:43 Kalibe: for me it's sounds really strange
2015-10-10 22:44 Feb: i just pointed it out
2015-10-10 22:44 Feb: bcs
2015-10-10 22:44 Feb: IT WOULD BE
2015-10-10 22:44 Feb: possible to place here
2015-10-10 22:44 Feb: because the music provides it
2015-10-10 22:44 Feb: in the other place there was a 1/4 
2015-10-10 22:44 Feb: but there was nothing in the music which would say we go in another direction now boys
2015-10-10 22:45 Feb: 02:39:495 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - no stacks here? like before? ;w;
2015-10-10 22:45 Feb: you emphasized this earlier
2015-10-10 22:45 Feb: but not here
2015-10-10 22:46 Feb: 02:43:695 (4) - again? pls xd I don't point them out again ^^
2015-10-10 22:46 Feb: 02:42:495 (3) - 
2015-10-10 22:49 Feb: r u there?
2015-10-10 22:49 Feb: lol
2015-10-10 22:49 Kalibe: yup
2015-10-10 22:49 Feb: what's the last message you got
2015-10-10 22:49 Feb: bancho ded
2015-10-10 22:49 Kalibe: 02:42:495 (3) -
2015-10-10 22:49 Kalibe: this
2015-10-10 22:49 Feb: okay
2015-10-10 22:49 Feb: yea
2015-10-10 22:49 Feb: i said one more time xd
2015-10-10 22:50 Feb: 02:51:645 (1) - pls randum spinner again just map it ;w;
2015-10-10 22:50 Feb: makes me sad
2015-10-10 22:50 Kalibe: sorry :C
2015-10-10 22:51 Feb: 02:55:845 (2) - is this supposed to be not under the stack?
2015-10-10 22:52 Feb: 03:05:895 (2,3) - just make a stack here
2015-10-10 22:52 Feb: http://puu.sh/kFwUZ/4f65ec2de7.jpg
2015-10-10 22:52 Feb: u ignore the violin u know
2015-10-10 22:53 Feb: 03:10:695 (2,3,1) - and you do it here lol
2015-10-10 22:53 Kalibe: 02:55:845 (2) - yea
2015-10-10 22:53 Kalibe: 03:05:895 (2,3) -  ok
2015-10-10 22:54 Feb: 03:12:795 (7,8,9,1) - keep the stream goin? o.o
2015-10-10 22:54 Feb: you make a literal stop here
2015-10-10 22:54 Feb: and ignore alot of beats
2015-10-10 22:55 Feb: can't say much about the stream part
2015-10-10 22:56 Feb: bcs I don't know how to map it
2015-10-10 22:56 Kalibe: 03:12:795 (7,8,9,1) -  don't fit me here to do next stream
2015-10-10 22:56 Feb: what do you mean
2015-10-10 22:57 Kalibe: changing instruments here
2015-10-10 22:57 Feb: yea and?
2015-10-10 22:57 Kalibe: and continued stream will be little weird
2015-10-10 22:57 Feb: why
2015-10-10 22:57 Feb: you could for example
2015-10-10 22:57 Feb: make the ds less 
2015-10-10 22:57 Kalibe: in my opinon
2015-10-10 22:57 Feb: yea you can leave it like it is
2015-10-10 22:57 Feb: i'm just suggesting :^)
2015-10-10 22:58 Kalibe: ;)
2015-10-10 23:00 Feb: 04:32:745 (2,3,4,5) - same like before
2015-10-10 23:00 Feb: and yea theres slider tail again
2015-10-10 23:00 Feb: 04:44:295 (1) - ppl will hate you
2015-10-10 23:01 Feb: and I think there's a limit you can change sv back
2015-10-10 23:03 Feb: 04:24:645 (1,2,3,4) - those look very unorganized
2015-10-10 23:04 Feb: 05:04:095 (3) - keepo
2015-10-10 23:04 Feb: btw to that unorganized I'll make pic
2015-10-10 23:08 Feb: http://puu.sh/kFy0D/fc6be27164.jpg
2015-10-10 23:08 Feb: yes 
2015-10-10 23:08 Feb: my name is flow
2015-10-10 23:08 Feb: xd
2015-10-10 23:09 Feb: 04:40:395 (2) - so let me point this out
2015-10-10 23:09 Feb: 04:40:395 (2) - 
2015-10-10 23:09 Feb: whoops
2015-10-10 23:09 Kalibe: omg
2015-10-10 23:09 Feb: delete that 1/4
2015-10-10 23:10 Feb: 04:39:945 (6,1) - move that
2015-10-10 23:10 Feb: 1/2 note more to right
2015-10-10 23:10 Feb: http://puu.sh/kFybg/3b2c32eaff.jpg
2015-10-10 23:10 Feb: like this
2015-10-10 23:10 Feb: yea
2015-10-10 23:10 Feb: now
2015-10-10 23:10 Feb: that would be counterflow
2015-10-10 23:11 Feb: but most of the time ppl use doublestacks here
2015-10-10 23:11 Feb: because counterflow is so risky
2015-10-10 23:11 Feb: in ranking ;w;
2015-10-10 23:11 Feb: and you would have to use it consistenly
2015-10-10 23:12 Kalibe: that counterflow is so weird
2015-10-10 23:12 Feb: just don't use it at all
2015-10-10 23:12 Feb: and youre good
2015-10-10 23:12 Feb: but sometime
2015-10-10 23:12 Feb: s 
2015-10-10 23:12 Feb: you have it in your map without knwoing it
2015-10-10 23:12 Feb: tho 
2015-10-10 23:13 Feb: 04:49:845 (4,5,6,7) - idk if this plays fine
2015-10-10 23:13 Feb: but i haven't seen this before
2015-10-10 23:13 Feb:  maybe there's reason idk lol
2015-10-10 23:14 Kalibe: i'll leave it
2015-10-10 23:14 Feb: I would let some experienced player play it and give opinion
2015-10-10 23:14 Feb: i suck at this game so yeah
2015-10-10 23:14 Feb: 04:58:695 (8,2) - can you maybe not overlap them
2015-10-10 23:14 Feb: keep your diff clean
2015-10-10 23:15 Kalibe: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3796147 this slider is good?
2015-10-10 23:15 Feb: it's not only about playability
2015-10-10 23:15 Feb: welp I pointed that out bcs the SV was really sudden
2015-10-10 23:15 Feb: you can use regular 0.5 here without manipulating the osufile
2015-10-10 23:16 Kalibe: yea i used this SV
2015-10-10 23:16 Feb: then you're good
2015-10-10 23:16 Feb: how long did you map on that
2015-10-10 23:16 Feb: just curious
2015-10-10 23:17 Kalibe: em
2015-10-10 23:17 Kalibe: 2 days?
2015-10-10 23:17 Kalibe: or 40 hours
2015-10-10 23:17 Kalibe: but i'm not sure
2015-10-10 23:17 Feb: seems legit
2015-10-10 23:18 Feb: ask in modhelp for testplays 
2015-10-10 23:18 Feb: nero almost playtest everything
2015-10-10 23:21 Feb: yea I think that was it
2015-10-10 23:22 Kalibe: most of them fixed
2015-10-10 23:22 Kalibe: you're really good
2015-10-10 23:22 Kalibe: :3
2015-10-10 23:22 Feb: i actually suck but yea. good it helped you
2015-10-10 23:22 Kalibe: send it to forum
2015-10-10 23:23 Feb: gimme a sec
2015-10-10 23:23 Kalibe: if you want cake
2015-10-10 23:23 Feb: i actually want a pizza right now lol

Side wrote:

Hi for the M4M :v

SPOILER

Red Night

Consider OD8.5. Might as well if you're using 8.3 also considering the song's difficulty.


00:00:645 (1) - Looks weird here. Looks better stacked over 00:00:945 (1) - or even at x:269 y:169 to keep spacing consistent and make a nice pattern. Also remove NC from 00:00:945 (1) - Doesn't really make much sense to have them both there.

00:01:695 (4) - Add NC and remove from 00:02:145 (1) - Since 5 has the upbeat note.

00:02:895 (4) - NC and remove from 00:03:345 (1) - for the same reason. Also regarding 4 you can move it alittle to the right and down one tick to make it a more perfect triangle.

*Note: The NCs seem off atm. NCs should follow a pattern around the song like every 4/1 or 8/1 for example and also to assist with readability in some sections but currently it's inconsistent. I suggest removing all combos and readding them now that the map is complete. yea, i'll do that


00:03:345 (1) - Increase the spacing from the previous note like you did for 00:01:695 (4,1) - You can even make a nice pattern like this. Also regarding this note I think it would be better to make this a 1/1 slider with a repeat and remove 2.

00:05:595 - This is a momentum killer. I suggest adding a note here because right now you just had a 1/4 slider jump crazy section and then 3/4 slider into slider into this pause like bam all momentum gone.

00:06:495 (3,4) - 1/2 slider after 1/1 slider to follow the drums is pretty boring. Change this pattern to a note and then a 1/2 slider. I also think 00:06:045 (2) - could be a 1/2 slider and note to better follow the 1/2 drums pattern but it's ok if you do this change.

00:09:945 (4,5) - I feel 5 should have symmetry with 00:10:545 (1) - instead of 4 since 5 is the big white tick (upbeat) and the other note is the downbeat which usually implies a jump or a shift in flow depending on the song. It's a bit hard to explain this but you can think of it like instead of you counting 1-2-1-2 you are counting 2-1-2-1-2 because you start on an even beat if that makes sense. Maybe try something kinda like this? Not the cleanest example but it adds a jump emphasis to 1 (upbeat) and then 1 becomes a part of the pattern like the other sliders going back and forth.

00:14:145 (1,2) - Would play better if this was still a part of the stream before so it's 4 jumps not 6. It could be fine though but the real problem is....

00:15:045 (3,4) - This. You have crazy buildup from the1/4 slider jumps and then random 3 right next to it. Kills all momentum and doesn't read well (btw this should also be where a NC begins so hopefully you rework the combos afterward) Anyway do this pattern it's much better. (Deleted previous notes to screenshot clearly)

00:15:645 (2) - 1/1 slider covers up the cool guitar at 00:15:795 - . You can say you're mapping to vocals but then in that case you didn't do that for 00:16:095 (3,4) - where this should also be a 1/1 slider per the vocals. I suggest mapping to the drum/guitar in this section.

01:07:545 (7,8) - Music doesn't really imply 1/4 slider jumps here. If anything change 7 to a normal note and you can keep 8 as a 1/4 slider to have a triplet effect but not this.

01:24:345 (1) - Change to 2 notes with a nice jump between them to compliment the vocals and a good finish to this small technical section into the spinner.

01:41:295 (2) - Might as well be a note since you muted the slider end.

01:42:045 (1) - Maybe more my taste but I think since it's the start of the 2nd verse this could be 2 notes insteads of a slider. Maybe even with the first note stacked over 01:41:295 (2) - Since there's a pause there and it would be nice to start here again.

01:43:395 (7) - Nothing in the rhythm to imply a triple sound here. Plus it's even more unexpected since it points away from the other slider. I would change to just a note maybe even stacked over 01:43:545 (1) -

02:34:545 (6,7) - 1/4 here is also weird. Should just be 2 notes since the music doesn't really imply 1/4 here too.

02:58:845 (3) - Instead of having a repeat you could just have notes at 03:00:645 - 03:00:945 - and another pretty slider starting at 03:01:245 - and ending at 03:02:445 - .

03:18:495 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Nothing in the song implies mapping to 1/3. At most MAYBE the guitar bend but if you wanted to map to that you might as wel have made a wavy slider to compliment it. Change to 1/4 stream this is wrong snap.

03:23:895 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - And this IS 1/3 snap starting at 03:24:045 - So consider mapping that with 1/3 sliders for readability or making the previous pattern transition well into a 1/3 stream if you like. Also 1/3 ends at 03:27:645 -

03:33:645 (9) - Suggest deleting the rest of the stream after this point and changing it to a spinner to compliment this guitar hold and ending it here 03:34:845 - or even just a nice long slider shape too if you want.

*Note: I really suggest mapping this section to the guitar here since it is a guitar solo. It plays a lot more intuitively because of it and you can always map to the drums while doing this as well.


04:15:045 (1,2,1) - Instead of an antijump you should map jumps into 04:15:195 - 04:15:495 - Especially after that buildup from the previous pattern.

04:42:045 (1,2,1,2) - Poor flow imo. Could make a nicer pattern instead.

04:43:845 (5,1,1) - Highly suggest this pattern to better compliment the drums and vocals. The spinner also feels better than a hold here.

04:46:845 - Ending section feels a bit overmapped imo. Lots of random triples. These are fine usually leading into the upbeat or if the drum/guitar does it but these are a bit random and don't really compliment the map imo. Consider revising this section and removing a few unnecessary triples and 5s. Some examples are like 04:48:195 (2,3,4) - 04:48:645 (1,2,3) - 04:50:445 (1,2,3,4) - etc.

05:10:845 (1,1) - Should end spinner where note 1 is instead.


Map is looking good overall. Needs a bit of cleanup and maybe a few pattern changes (specially with the 1/4 slider jumps they're pretty repetitive back and forths sometimes). Just fix the NCs and it will really help in the cleanup trust me

Anyway I hope this helps. Good luck!

• General:

• Gameplay:

Knotts wrote:

hi, M4M

Red Night

1. 00:03:345 (2) - I think a more curved slider like thiswould look/play better.
2. 00:04:845 (5) - Shorten this to the red tick and add a circle at 00:05:070. It'd follow the music more this way.
3. 00:05:145 (1,3) - I'd separate these too by a little bit so it didn't look like they were so close.
4. 00:07:245 (2,3) - You should use the same rhythm as 00:06:045 (2,3,4) since they're pretty much identical.
5. 00:10:245 (1) - Move to (91, 158) to give 00:09:945 (4,1,2) a more equalized look.
6. 00:15:045 (3) - To make this easier to read you could blanket this with the stream by moving it to (355, 105).
7. 00:18:645 (6,7) - Not a fan of this overlap, you could just do this.
8. 00:24:345 (1) - Remove NC, add one at 00:24:645 (3), remove from 00:24:945 (1).
9. 00:29:295 (3,4) - Drum claps or finishes would fit better here.
10. 00:30:495 (4) - Finish.
11. 00:31:845 (5) - ^
12. 00:32:295 (7) - ^
13. 00:32:745 (1) - Remove clap and add finish.
14. 00:34:245 (1) - Finish.
15. 00:37:545 (5,6) - I think a slider like thiswould have better flow and look a lot nicer.
16. 00:39:045 (1) - Finish.
17. 00:39:345 (2) - Shorten this to the red tick and add a circle on the white tick.
18. 00:43:845 (5) - Finish instead of clap and start NC here while removing it from 00:44:145 (1).
19. 00:45:795 (4,5) - I think you should space these out more so they're not overlapping. It'll still be easily playable and it'll also look nicer
20. 00:54:645 (1) - Finish instead of whistle on head
21. 00:58:245 (1) - Finish on head
22. 01:00:645 (1) - ^
23. 01:03:195 (2,3) and 01:03:645 - These notes don't really cover anything so I think you should be using 1/1 sliders here.
24. 01:05:445 (1) - Finish instead of clap
25. 01:10:245 (1,2) - Unattractive overlap
26. 01:11:895 (4,7,1) - Might be your preference, but I'd fix this overlap
27. 01:24:345 (1,2) - I'd remove the NC and start it on the last note
28. 01:50:445 (1,2) - Weird looking overlap again
29. 02:00:795 (2) - Move to (287, 236)
30. 02:13:245 (1,2) - Blanket these?
31. 02:15:420 (7) - delete note
32. 02:15:945 (2,4) - Move these to the left a little so that they're not overlapping 02:16:245 (3)
33. 02:28:470 (5,6) - Move these to (510,278). it doesn't work but i separeted it
34. 02:30:045 (1,3,5) - Finishes on these
35. 02:51:495 - there should be a clickable object here instead of a slider end
36. 02:54:045 (1) - Should probably turn this into slider art some time in the future ye : D
37. 03:17:595 (8,1,2,3,4,5) - Fix this curve like thismaybe

good luck!

Tarrasky wrote:

Red Night

• General:

I think the collorcombo is a bit strange, i prefer something like this: purple colour looks nice, but grey nah...

I'm not sure if sliderslide.wav no sound is good and acceptable in rank critéria ;c oke fixd
Misuzu-11-eyes-wallpaper.jpg needs have the resolution 1366x768 to be acceptable in Rank Criteria - Background images must be at a maximum of 1024x768 pixels for 4:3, 1366x768 pixels for 16:9 - it's 1024x768 so acceptable :3
02:22:845 - In here you need reset the timing for another beat, just add another Timing Point here and its ok oke

• Gameplay:

I prefer AR 9.2, ask for testplay with 9.2 and see if it got better oke
00:15:045 (3) - 00:19:845 (5) - 00:22:245 (1) - 00:24:645 (1) - and other times like this, i recommend you add Finish yea it works
00:30:045 (2,3) - i'm not fan of this overlap, maybe you can add 00:30:345 (3) - in another place, like x:288 y:76 reworked section
00:48:570 (4,1) - this spacing is necessary? yea
00:59:145 (5,6) - maybe Ctrl + G no ;w;
01:01:545 (5) - change this from a circle, It is a little overmap fixd
02:13:245 (1) - I prefer this slider in x:244 y:180, maybe you can try nice :3
03:01:245 (4,1) - a big slider here? oh yea
03:51:495 (6,1) - the music have a triple song here, maybe you can stack 03:51:495 (6) - in 03:51:645 (1) - and add another circle stacked in 03:51:570 - oke
03:18:945 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - overmap i think
03:19:545 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same /\
03:21:345 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - /\, this streams is a bit unnecessary all fixd bcs i have second expirence with dat stream part
I'm not so experienced with Extra but i think this is a good map for play ^^ Thanks :3 /

Hope i help, good luck

-Tochi wrote:

M4M

• 
  

  General

1. Seems fine. uff : D

• 
  

  Red Night

1. 00:04:245 (1,2,3,4) - These seems randomly placed and the flow is weird. Imo you should try to make it look better also like: http://puu.sh/kMcSq/ebdcdbc4ec.png
2. 00:06:045 (2) - Move to x:172 y:144 to make the end blanket with 00:05:745 (1) -
3. 00:16:095 (4) - This slider looks weird and random placed when there's nothing blanketing it... Try to blanket it like: http://puu.sh/kMcYz/1a3caa731c.png
4. 00:16:845 (6,7) - The spacing here is too random to be big, the music tells me that it should be bigger here 00:17:295 (7,1) - so i recommend to move 00:17:295 (7) - to x:296 y:168
5. 00:44:745 (3) - Move it more in to (2) like: http://puu.sh/kMd4H/a49d9f5b77.png It looks better imo, since it's a bit too sudden to make it almost not even touch the slider.
6. 01:06:495 (1) - Why NC here? You should switch with 01:06:645 (2) - so the NC starts here 01:06:645 (2) -
7. 01:09:945 (1) - Why random NC?
8. 01:38:595 (2,3) - The spacing here is too random to be smaller, move 01:38:745 (3) - to x:280 y:312
9. 01:39:345 (2,1) - Please avoid this kind of overlap, it looks bad.
10. 02:15:945 (2,3) - Same as above.
11. 03:14:145 (1,2) - This is unrankable, you should repeat the slider once more so the next circle starts on a red line. upsi
12. 04:41:895 (4) - Move to x:284 y:240 for better flow? oki nice suggestion
13. 04:43:995 (1) - Move to x:156 y:200

1. 00:00:945 (2,3) - if ctrl+g these, it will be more playable because move the cursor to hit a vocal circle is more express to the song.
2. 00:04:245 (1,2,3,4) - tbh, these look kinda random to me, try to rearrange them a bit? this is an example.
3. I think you forgot many finish unless it's intentional, such as 00:08:145 (1,3)
4. these notes are fit with normal-finish somehow even it's not in song. 00:05:445 (2) , 00:06:646 (4) , 00:07:845 (4).
   in case if you want to try it, better make the note which normal-finish a bit jumpy (not stack).
5. 00:10:245 (1) - and so on (every big whitetick) can add finish, I think you can add both finish and whistle.
6. 00:15:045 (3) - NC this because you add on 00:14:745 (1). (every whitetick)
7. 00:19:095 (7) - hm this slider is just too chubby. 00:18:345 (5) is more beautiful and neat.
8. 00:18:645 (6,1) - swap NC because (6) is on white tick and strong vocal, current 1 is so weak to NC.
9. 00:19:845 (5,1) - NC supposed to be added at (5) but you added on current 1 because you followed the vocal BUT, you didn't do like that on 00:24:645 (1,3).
   you better prefer one way to do all the way.
10. 00:27:045 (4) - missing NC and finish.
11. 00:32:745 (1) - this is not wrong but this overlapped is meh, avoid it? looks messed.
12. 00:46:695 (1) - why NC? remove.
13. 00:49:845 (7,1) - swap NC, you know why.
14. 00:51:045 (7) - add NC.
15. 00:59:895 (3) - two words of vocal here, you can use circle on white tick and 1/2 slider on white tick. it's better express the song.
16. 01:04:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - unnecessary inconsistent spacing.
17. 01:45:045 (1) - this note is so strong hmmm, I think stack is not enough to emphasis it.
18. 01:45:045 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - btw these circles are necessary, use long slow slider at 01:45:045 and end at 01:45:495. then start a new slider at 01:45:645 is really better to me.
19. 01:46:095 - triple here.
20. 01:47:595 - no triple here
21. 02:10:245 (1,2,1,2) - still hard to read, make them more visionable.
22. 02:19:095 (3) - unstack this and move around 02:18:795 (1) is more playable imo, zig-zag flow and because of 02:19:245 (1) is strong as well.
23. 03:13:545 - after this part, slider stream is so random imo. oh my, these streams are overmapped. please.
24. 03:43:995 (1) - remove NC for make it easier to read.
25. 03:44:295 (1) - ^
26. 05:11:895 (1) - remove this circle and end spinner at here is better. this is the last part of the song so it's not a good idea to make this rhythm here (easy to miss)

P A N wrote:

[Red Night]

1. 00:00:945 (2,3) - if ctrl+g these, it will be more playable because move the cursor to hit a vocal circle is more express to the song.
2. 00:04:245 (1,2,3,4) - tbh, these look kinda random to me, try to rearrange them a bit? this is an example. did something similar
3. I think you forgot many finish unless it's intentional, such as 00:08:145 (1,3) ye
4. these notes are fit with normal-finish somehow even it's not in song. 00:05:445 (2) , 00:06:646 (4) , 00:07:845 (4).
   in case if you want to try it, better make the note which normal-finish a bit jumpy (not stack).
5. 00:10:245 (1) - and so on (every big whitetick) can add finish, I think you can add both finish and whistle.
6. 00:15:045 (3) - NC this because you add on 00:14:745 (1). (every whitetick)
7. 00:19:095 (7) - hm this slider is just too chubby. 00:18:345 (5) is more beautiful and neat.
8. 00:18:645 (6,1) - swap NC because (6) is on white tick and strong vocal, current 1 is so weak to NC.
9. 00:19:845 (5,1) - NC supposed to be added at (5) but you added on current 1 because you followed the vocal BUT, you didn't do like that on 00:24:645 (1,3).
   you better prefer one way to do all the way.
10. 00:27:045 (4) - missing NC and finish.
11. 00:32:745 (1) - this is not wrong but this overlapped is meh, avoid it? looks messed.
12. 00:46:695 (1) - why NC? remove.
13. 00:49:845 (7,1) - swap NC, you know why.
14. 00:51:045 (7) - add NC.
15. 00:59:895 (3) - two words of vocal here, you can use circle on white tick and 1/2 slider on white tick. it's better express the song.
16. 01:04:845 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - unnecessary inconsistent spacing.
17. 01:45:045 (1) - this note is so strong hmmm, I think stack is not enough to emphasis it.
18. 01:45:045 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - btw these circles are necessary, use long slow slider at 01:45:045 and end at 01:45:495. then start a new slider at 01:45:645 is really better to me. ehhh... okay
19. 01:46:095 - triple here.
20. 01:47:595 - no triple here
21. 02:10:245 (1,2,1,2) - still hard to read, make them more visionable.
22. 02:19:095 (3) - unstack this and move around 02:18:795 (1) is more playable imo, zig-zag flow and because of 02:19:245 (1) is strong as well.
23. 03:13:545 - after this part, slider stream is so random imo. oh my, these streams are overmapped. please. i think it's okay right now
24. 03:43:995 (1) - remove NC for make it easier to read.
25. 03:44:295 (1) - ^
26. 05:11:895 (1) - remove this circle and end spinner at here is better. this is the last part of the song so it's not a good idea to make this rhythm here (easy to miss)

please pay attention to NC and normal-finish or something. you can add MANYYYYYYYYYYY finish on this map and it will be really more enjoyable.
good luck.

Hi Im Nathan wrote:

from your m4m queue

[one differino]
00:19:395 (3,4,5) - This would look all neater if it was stacked no, this is my style so i leave it
00:39:045 to 00:40:245 - I think this section could do with a decrease in note congestion to match the music a little better pls no
00:48:645 (1) - curve this slider? sure
01:45:645 (2) - blanket (1) oke
02:36:345 (2,3) - Make these a bit more visible by not hiding them as much under their respective sliders. just a little though

like this

don't fixd this, but i fixed another error here xD
03:12:795 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why is the DS for this part smaller than the rest? because of instruments, they're quiet here
03:58:395 (2) - make this into a click circle instead don't fixed

Well thats my mod, I hope it was helpful. GL Yea, thanks for mod :3

jaob99 wrote:

hi, from modding queue.
Red Night:

SPOILER

00:07:845 (4) - Maybe new combo here instead of 00:08:145 (1) no change, because i NC to the vocal here
00:43:095 (3) - Also maybe instead of 00:43:245 (1) NC for the 1/4 pattern
00:55:845 (1) - Curve this slider like 00:56:295 (3) did something other here
00:57:945 (3) - NC here instead of 00:58:245 (1) NC to the rhythm here
01:02:745 (7) - Move this down a bit like this maybe? i don't like this kind of pattern, sorry
01:15:495 (3) - Move the point to here so it looks the same as 01:15:945 (6) maybe? okey
01:33:945 (1) - Remove NC? rhythm
02:14:670 (2,3) - Move to here? no i like this, no fixd
02:37:245 (1) - Move middle point to here fixed
02:42:945 (1) - Maybe change it to look like 02:43:695 (4) did something other

Hope that was any help gl Thanks for mod ~ :3

-Maruk- wrote:

Hi~ from your M4M queue

[Red Night]
Source イレブンアイズ → 11eyes
Tag add イレブンアイズ

Fixd metadata

00:02:745 (4) - 00:02:145 (2) - Just stack upsi
00:03:945 (3) - ^ ^
00:06:570 - add circle not nessesary imo
00:54:645 (1) - End at 00:55:245 - and 00:55:545 - add circle oh okay
01:12:570 (7,1) - 01:11:895 (4) - Just stack upsi ver. 2
01:20:670 - add circle no ;w; I like when it's 1/2 snap here
01:23:370 - ^ i change this section a bit
01:44:445 (5) - add finish okayy
01:45:645 (2) - ^ ^
01:53:895 (2) - 01:52:695 (5) - just stack upsi ver. 2,5
03:55:245 (1,1,2) - 03:55:245 (1) - Remove a reverse and 03:56:145 - add circle 03:56:445 - add 1/1 slider 03:56:895 (4) - add circle 03:57:195 (1) - add 1/1 slider mhm circle and slider will be good but i don't replace slider with circle
05:10:545 (3) - try use this okayyy


Good luck~ Thanks !! :3

1. Soft-hitfinish3 seems to be unused for me, delete it if you are not going to use it for the whole map.
2. You could totally add this and this hitsounds to emphasize the drums in the background.

1. Here are some general things that you should look out for.
2. 00:08:145 (1,2,3) - I can see that you were trying to make some jumps between these notes, but in fact, due to the drop-off flow, (2) and (3) has a really less movement compared to (1) and (2), which doesn't go along with your intention.
3. 00:48:345 (1,2,3,4,1) - Avoid having weird slider jumps like this one for example, it really does look like (1) is misplaced from the stream.
4. 00:53:145 (1,2,3,4) - Watch out for these, these are mapped to nothing, it certainly does look like overmapped. The part where is it worthy to be mapped as a stream starts 00:53:445 (1) - here.
5. 00:56:895 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - Tornado patterns are meant to
6. basically copy the momentum from the previous combos, but 00:57:645 (1,2) - these doesn't follow the movement that 00:56:895 (1,2,3) - this made(as well as 00:57:345 (1,2) - ) which misleads players. You would still want a clear distinction if you want to cancel off the movement from before, right now it really looks like those 2 combos that I've mentioned follows 00:56:895 (1,2,3) - these notes' movement.
7. 01:24:645 (1) - This spinner should be moved back to the previous blue tick which will be 01:24:570 - as the vocals that you are trying to follow starts at that point.
8. 02:20:895 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Well that is a nice effect that you are trying to convey here, but it doesn't fit with the similar stream like 00:53:895 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - , as both of them has the same effect in the song, and yet you didn't add it in the first stream. Try to keep the consistency at least. Variety is good to have, but varieties like on the same things doesn't really work that well.
9. 02:53:145 (1,2,3) - It totally looks like you were trying to make a triangular flow here, but it is in fact, not perfect. Take one slider, rotate it 120 degrees clockwise for the second slider, and do the same thing for the third.
10. 02:54:045 (1) - Slider arts are definitely good to use, but gives a little bit of negative effect if the slider doesn't have a definite shape like 02:58:845 (1) - .
11. 03:11:895 to 03:33:645 - Inconsistent stream rhythm is really bad in play mode, as it will mislead majority of the players. Instead of making these kinds of complex rhythm, you can still go for a intuitive rhythm something like this.
12. 04:05:595 (4,5) - Another rhythmic issue, the drumroll suddenly was stopped being mapped even though there is no other instrument present here other than a violin.
13. 04:33:645 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I could have mentioned this earlier, but all the long stream shapes are kinda... bland. Try to use the option 'convert slider into streams' to make more of a creative shape for them. Something like wave works nicely.
14. Overall I think the maps needs more polishing on the flow of notes and rhythm itself.

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

Omg I lost my mod ;-;
M4M as requested.

1. Unrankable issues
2. My opinion which I highly recommend changing it
3. Small suggestions/Nazi

[General]

1. Soft-hitfinish3 seems to be unused for me, delete it if you are not going to use it for the whole map. oh god, facepalm
2. You could totally add this and this hitsounds to emphasize the drums in the background.

soft sounds fine, but finish not nessesary, thanks for hitsound :3

[Red Night]

1. Here are some general things that you should look out for.
2. 00:08:145 (1,2,3) - I can see that you were trying to make some jumps between these notes, but in fact, due to the drop-off flow, (2) and (3) has a really less movement compared to (1) and (2), which doesn't go along with your intention.
3. 00:48:345 (1,2,3,4,1) - Avoid having weird slider jumps like this one for example, it really does look like (1) is misplaced from the stream.
4. 00:53:145 (1,2,3,4) - Watch out for these, these are mapped to nothing, it certainly does look like overmapped. The part where is it worthy to be mapped as a stream starts 00:53:445 (1) - here.
5. 00:56:895 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - Tornado patterns are meant to
6. basically copy the momentum from the previous combos, but 00:57:645 (1,2) - these doesn't follow the movement that 00:56:895 (1,2,3) - this made(as well as 00:57:345 (1,2) - ) which misleads players. You would still want a clear distinction if you want to cancel off the movement from before, right now it really looks like those 2 combos that I've mentioned follows 00:56:895 (1,2,3) - these notes' movement.
7. 01:24:645 (1) - This spinner should be moved back to the previous blue tick which will be 01:24:570 - as the vocals that you are trying to follow starts at that point.
8. 02:20:895 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Well that is a nice effect that you are trying to convey here, but it doesn't fit with the similar stream like 00:53:895 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - , as both of them has the same effect in the song, and yet you didn't add it in the first stream. Try to keep the consistency at least. Variety is good to have, but varieties like on the same things doesn't really work that well.
9. 02:53:145 (1,2,3) - It totally looks like you were trying to make a triangular flow here, but it is in fact, not perfect. Take one slider, rotate it 120 degrees clockwise for the second slider, and do the same thing for the third.
10. 02:54:045 (1) - Slider arts are definitely good to use, but gives a little bit of negative effect if the slider doesn't have a definite shape like 02:58:845 (1) - .
11. 03:11:895 to 03:33:645 - Inconsistent stream rhythm is really bad in play mode, as it will mislead majority of the players. Instead of making these kinds of complex rhythm, you can still go for a intuitive rhythm something like this.
12. 04:05:595 (4,5) - Another rhythmic issue, the drumroll suddenly was stopped being mapped even though there is no other instrument present here other than a violin.
13. 04:33:645 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I could have mentioned this earlier, but all the long stream shapes are kinda... bland. Try to use the option 'convert slider into streams' to make more of a creative shape for them. Something like wave works nicely.
14. Overall I think the maps needs more polishing on the flow of notes and rhythm itself.

That is all from me. GL!

Strategas wrote:

yo, from my queue

[insert cool diff name here] : D

00:01:695 (1,1) - I think it would feel better if these were circles instead
00:04:545 (3,4,5) - this flow is not very comfy did something
00:05:745 (1,2) - improve blanket
00:42:369 (5) - this note is not snapped onto anything lol /me facepalm while running
01:14:295 (1,2) - personally I don't like these kind of things, I suggest moving it up
01:18:945 (5,6,7) - this is kinda pain to play aswell, make the ds even if you do such things.
01:55:695 (3) - move this more down and right
02:09:645 (1) - maybe circle instead and make this a jump no ;w; i like this
02:14:895 (4) - rotate this about -28 deegrees clockwise and move it around x344 y244
02:20:445 (2,3,4,1) - this plays weird
02:29:445 (1) - move this more left to form a triangle with 02:29:145 (3,4) -
02:35:145 (2,3,4,5) - try making a different angle with jumps
02:46:845 (1) - ctrl h and put it back
02:57:645 - maybe shorter the slider and start a new one here?
03:00:045 - ^ and so on
03:10:695 (2,3) - these are suppose to be 1/3 sure
03:05:895 (2,3) - ^ ^
03:14:295 (1,1) - avoid slider ends on big white ticks in places like this nah...
03:15:720 - missing note spiecally ;w;
03:16:920 - ^ ^
03:17:970 - ^ ^^
03:19:095 (3) - strong beat on slider end again ...
03:22:395 (6,7,8,1) - this angle is kinda harsh http://i.imgur.com/rj96L10.jpg better i think it's crazy o.o, but smth similar
03:33:195 (7) - move this more down like x83 y295
03:43:245 (1,2) - way too close nah, changed structure
03:43:395 - also missing note /me facepalms ^2
04:42:045 (1) - move this to x337 y50 ?
04:42:945 (2) - and this one to x246 y229
04:43:545 (3,4,5) - weird angle
04:43:995 (1) - very unexpected sv change, easily mistaken as one of those 1/4 sliders changed

Some things are repetitive I haven't mentioned, but I hope you got the idea. Good luck! Thanks !!~

1. 01:42:045 - your second timing point should be here dood
2. 01:11:145 (5) - 02:28:545 (6) - 04:43:995 (1) - 01:46:395 (4) - so i think you already know this, but for sliders, it's better to have the strong beats on sliderheads and weaker beats on slidertails. these are like the opposite of that (which people call passive sliders or something). should have clickability on their tails since that's where the stronger sound is
3. 00:01:695 (1) - 00:02:895 (1) - 05:10:695 (4) - similar thing here. the strongest sound here is on their tails, so making them triples works better to click on that
4. 00:42:369 (5) - 04:04:845 (3) - look at the timeline and tell me that was intentional:(
5. 02:55:845 (2) - this section doesn't really work with the bass kick hitnormal thing. like it just doesn't match the song at all. the default hitnormal or something more... high pitch/less impactful would work
6. 02:52:845 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is a much more minor thing, but stuff like this with consistent spacing = much better (and im assuming that was the intention)
7. 02:43:995 (5,6,7) - ~the triple of deception~ (make it less broken lol)
8. 03:13:995 (8,9,1) - 03:15:795 (2,3) - with reverse sliders, it's not very intuitive to click the next circle on a blue tick. you can't see when it's going to end because it's just a repeat thing and the song is emphasizing white/red, so making the next object clickable on white/red is more intuitive. 03:21:945 (2,3) - on the other hand is more acceptable since you can tell when the slider is gonna end
9. 03:24:045 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - a lot better to start off unexpected 1/3 streams with sliders rather than circles (preferrably reverse sliders). way easier to comprehend the rhythm when it's being shown to you rather than having to see if it's 1/3 through getting 100s and 50s on circles
10. 03:52:545 (5,6,1) - 04:48:345 (3,4,1) - 01:17:145 (4,5,1) - spacing emphasis is something definitely needed in maps that constantly change distance between objects. stronger sounds should have larger spacing towards them, since that's more impactful (there's other ways of controlling emphasis but that's the easiest). so like for the first example, 5->6 should have smaller spacing than 6->1, making 6->1 more powerful through spacing
11. 04:12:945 (4) - if you're trying to map the oddly timed vocal here, this isn't the way to do it. starting a slider on nothing is uh not good. you could either put a circle on the 1/6 tick, put it on a sliderend from a slider that starts on an actual sound, or not map it at all
12. 00:32:145 (6) - 03:36:495 (2) - if there's no 1/4 in the music, a circle is a better option than a 1/4 slider lul
13. 04:05:595 (4,5,6,1) - not really understanding why spacing is so tiny when the song hasn't gotten calm yet. it does at 1 but like 5 and 6 are still inthe crazy 1/4 section
14. 01:17:145 (4,5,1) - 02:26:445 (1,2,3) - 04:23:145 (4,1,2) - so i'm not sure how good you are at testing specific parts for playability in the map, but stuff like these i'd say don't work too well. when you have spacing changes between objects, it's a lot better to have sharper angles between them. controlling momentum without direction change is a lot more uncomfortable than it looks, so only do this kind of stuff when you're really trying to emphasize something weird. (so for these examples, sharper angles or more consistent spacing would be better)
15. 00:04:545 (3,4,5) - 00:33:945 (3,4,1) - 00:53:145 (1,2,1,2) - 03:53:895 (2,3,4) - similar to the previous thing, 1/4 sliders like this are played nearly hte same as circles, so the same momentum based movement is uncomfortable.
16. 01:14:145 (5,1,2) - 02:00:945 (3,4) - 03:15:345 (9,1) - so if you've arranged 1/4 sliders as if they play like circles for the majority of the map, things like these are pretty weird. honestly they'd just work better with spacing between the 1/4 slider and the next object rather than overlapping like 1/4 circles