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Sc4v4ng3r

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-09-26T05:05:27+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, 17 March, 2016 at 8:49:33 PM

Artist: nao
Title: Dimension tripper!!!!
Source: 超次元ゲイムネプテューヌ
Tags: ディメンション・トリッパー Hyperdimension Neptunia: The Animation Choujigen Game Neptune PV version Noire Blanc Vert Purple_Heart Black_Heart White_Heart Green_Heart Compile_Heart OP Doyak Gear walaowey
BPM: 188.2
Filesize: 18417kb
Play Time: 01:32
Difficulties Available:

Doyak's Easy (1.53 stars, 126 notes)
Gear's Insane (4.41 stars, 371 notes)
Hard (3.37 stars, 255 notes)
Normal (2.2 stars, 177 notes)
Walao's Insane (4.74 stars, 396 notes)

Download: nao - Dimension tripper!!!!
Download: nao - Dimension tripper!!!! (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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For ranked, #7
Neptune so moe

Redownload as of 17/1/2016, changed BG, changed up hitsounds.

For those who wants to use the old BG you can find it here.

Difficulty list

Doyak's Easy - By Doyak

Normal - By me

Hard - By me

Gear's Insane - By Gear

Walao's Insane - By walaowey

Starred by Rizia
Bubbled by Rizia
Popped by JBHyperion
Re-bubbled by JBHyperion
Qualified by Nozhomi

Thanks to all modders

Log

26/9/2015 - Submitted beatmap
28/9/2015 - Finished Normal.
3/10/2015 - Added Doyak's Easy to the set.
4/10/2015 - Finsihed remapping Normal.
5/10/2015 - Added Gear's Insane to the set.
10/10/2015 - Added walaowey's difficulty to the set.
13/10/2015 - Applied Lumael's mod and Sonnyc's mod to Normal and Insane.
17/10/2015 - Finished Hard.
18/10/2015 - Applied Kalibe's mod to Normal and Hard.
24/10/2015 - Applied Regraz'd mod to Hard and Gear's Insane.
27/10/2015 - Applied pending mods to Walao's Insane.
28/10/2015 - Applied pending mods to Doyak's Easy.
30/10/2015 - Applied Desperate-kun's mod to Doyak's Easy, Normal and Gear's Insane.
3/11/2015 - Applied Desperate-kun's mod to Walao's Insane.
5/11/2015 - Hitsound tweaks applied to Normal and Hard.
7/11/2015 - Applied BetaStar's mod to Normal, Hard, Gear's and Walao's Insane.
8/11/2015 - Applied MrSergio's mod to Normal and Hard.
8/11/2015 - Applied Gamu's mod to Normal and Hard.
9/11/2015 - Applied MrSergio's mod and Gamu's mod to Easy and Gear's Insane.
11/11/2015 - Applied Baraatje123's mod to Gear's Insane, Hard and Easy.
20/11/2015 - Applied Rizia's mod to Hard. Mapset starred.
21/11/2015 - Applied Rizia's mod to Gear's Insane.
22/11/2015 - Applied Yuii-'s mod to Normal, Hard and Gear's Insane, and applied pending mods to Walao's Insane.
23/11/2015 - Changed source, and added tags.
25/11/2015 - Changed title, modified tags and changed the source back.
18/1/2016 - Applied JBHyperion's mod to Normal and Hard.
19/1/2016 - Applied JBHyperion's mod to the rest of the difficulties.
2/2/2016 - Applied Electoz's mod to Easy, Normal and Hard.
6/2/2016 - Applied JBHyperion's re-check to Normal.
17/3/2016 - Applie Nozhomi's mod to all difficulties.

About metadata

All credits goes to IamKwaN, who helped me check on all these

Title : Dimension Tripper!!!! (no prefixes)
As seen in : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5pr07LwxYY
http://5pb.jp/records/release/detail/de ... =FVCG-1256
http://nep-anime.tv/products.html#cdnews01

Source : 超次元ゲイムネプテューヌ (no prefixes as well)
As seen in : http://puu.sh/lwZRA/d023614b81.jpg from http://davidproduction.jp/works/work10.html
http://puu.sh/lwZT1/73753ac168.png from http://nep-anime.tv/
(Logos include 'THE ANIMATION', but official websites/sources doesn't)

Last edited by Sc4v4ng3r 2016-03-20T13:19:27+00:00, edited 73 times in total.

walaowey

952 posts

Joined March 2012

walaowey 2015-09-30T18:12:38+00:00

First

And I've done my diff

asdasdfa

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Neptune~.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 59025
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.599999

[Metadata]
Title:Dimension tripper!!!! (PV Ver.)
TitleUnicode:Dimension tripper!!!! (PV Ver.)
Artist:nao
ArtistUnicode:nao
Creator:[Sc4v4ng3r]
Version:Walao's Insane
Source:超次元ゲイム ネプテューヌ
Tags:Hyperdimension Neptunia: The Animation Neptune Noire Blanc Vert Purple Heart Black Heart White Heart Green Heart Compile Heart OP opening tv size Doyak
BeatmapID:0
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Doyak

osu! Alumni

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Doyak 2015-10-01T17:13:25+00:00

My Easy done!

Doyak's Easy

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Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-02T14:02:50+00:00

It is kinda late to say, but updated

EDIT 1 : Updated with Gear's difficulty.

EDIT 2 : Updated with walaowey's difficulty.

Last edited by Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-10T14:51:51+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Gear

148 posts

Joined November 2012

Gear 2015-10-05T01:42:27+00:00

Have my Insane here ^^

Nepgear is better

osu file format v14

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Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-10-12T15:19:43+00:00

Hello, sorry for the delay ;w;

Easy

00:03:632 (1) - it's quite awful how this slider overlaps with 00:02:038 (2) - and it's probably unrankeable as well, it's too confusing, i highly recommend you to fix this, you can try something like that http://puu.sh/kHzU2/9a8a883a1e.jpg
00:09:371 (2,1) - ^ quite the same thing and here its even worst because its the head of the slider
00:22:123 (2,3) - avoid this kind of gap, its really confusing for an easy, you should only use this on normal or higher, on easy its an overkill to make this, the only way to read this is by the approach circle, and people who play easies don't even know what is the approach circle properly... 00:43:164 (3,1) - 00:50:178 (2,3) - same, there may be more, there's no point in linking them all
00:58:467 (3) - uuh not sure about this rhythm, you could use a 1/1 slider followed by 1/2 slider, it'd follow much better this sound here http://puu.sh/kHA5o/d2437bc598.jpg
00:59:583 - please rework on your kiai, the gaps are 100% confusing and probably unrankeable as well, its too hard to read that

Normal

00:33:137 - why this circle? there's nothing here to add a circle. im not saying it's a problem but you havent added on similar places so this one seens out of nowhere
00:59:583 - although the kiai is good, the patterns are hell repetitive, you just used 2/3 patterns and you repeated them through all the kiai which is so boring to play and it can easily be noticed, it's not an unrankeable issue but please the gameplay is affected considerably by using those repetitive patterns through the most intense part of the song!
I liked a lot this diff, good job c:

Gear

00:41:730 (5,1) - didnt get why the short spacing here, you did it big on the other similar occasions so i assume this is a mistake 00:41:570 (4) - maybe stack with 00:40:933 (2) - 's head, it'd improve the spacing here
00:53:207 (1) - uuh this blanket is getting on my nerves
01:04:525 (7,1) - wtf this jump? it's too short compared to everything else like 01:03:249 (5,1) - 01:05:800 (5,1) - 01:09:626 (5,1) - which are similar sounds so i quite don't get why this brutal short ds here, it plays really awfully

Walao

00:23:080 (2,3) - 00:24:673 (4,5) - considering simillar sounds and this difficulty overall, i didn't get why you used short ds here since in all the other occasions you used big jumps which makes a small inconsistency here which can be easily noticed while playing
01:17:436 (5) - uuh this small spacing here is getting on my nerves, moreover, 01:17:436 (5,1) - swipe nc here would be nice, still didnt get why you added on the stream but not on this beat + the weird spacing
I liked how this diff flows, nicee

That's it from me :3 The mapset is good and I hope to see it ranked in a near future <3

Good luck

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2015-10-12T15:47:27+00:00

Thanks for your mod, but I'm currently resting from osu! until midterm so I can't excute it, but I see what you said.

First, most important thing should be the difficulty spread, not the diff's name. You said some elements I used are 'too hard for an Easy', but see how the Normal is made. It's remapped but still pretty hard. So shouldn't I make my Easy hard as well?

Second, you're using the word 'unrankable' too easily. I know overlapping is pretty hard, but it's MOSTLY not 'unrankable'. And I clearly remember there was an enough gap between the 2 sliders so the overlap wouldn't be seen that much. Maybe I can fix that because it's recommended, but I already put some overlaps on my other ranked Easies and they've never been a DQ issue and BNs didn't say about that much. The word 'unrankable' should be used only on the things that are clearly not rankable.

Third, I know the 3/2 gaps are hard, but that is this song's identity. So how should I avoid it while still following the song? Just putting notes only on the white ticks only because it's easy is stupid, since it would rather follow most other songs, not this 'Dimension tripper!!!!'. I can try to reduce the amount of notes to give players more time to read the 3/2 gaps, but nah, then the gap between Normal would be too big. At least I didn't use any 1/2 gaps, so it should be fine. Also it's used very, very continously throughout the kiai, so even new players can adapt to it easily. If you have a better solution than using this rhythm, please tell me.

I'd rather make a new "Doyak's Beginner" or something than fixing all the things you said if "it's too hard to be the easiest diff". But I think there shouldn't be something like 'too hard for an Easy diff' or something while the gap to Normal is good. This diff is fine itself.

I'll look into your mod when I come back at 10/23, thanks.

edit: "the only way to read this is by the approach circle, and people who play easies don't even know what is the approach circle properly..." That means no newbies can play any kind of maps lol, but we have the distance snap. 3/2s are clearly further than 1/1s. That's why we should 100% snap the distance on easier difficulties.

Yeah... if you have a better suggestion then please tell me, but the current state is the best solution I can think of.

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-10-12T16:38:57+00:00

Doyak wrote:
I'd rather make a new "Doyak's Beginner" or something than fixing all the things you said if "it's too hard to be the easiest diff". But I think there shouldn't be something like 'too hard for an Easy diff' or something while the gap to Normal is good. This diff is fine itself.

But there is.. so blame the system '-'

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2015-10-12T16:42:54+00:00

Lumael wrote:
But there is.. so blame the system '-'

If this would be really a problem(if some BNs point it out) then I'll seriously consider renaming this into Doyak's Light Normal and ask the creator to look for another 'really easy' Easy GD.

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2015-10-12T18:14:40+00:00

[Normal]

00:08:574 (1,2,3) - Silly distance that needs a fix.

[Doyak's Easy]

Using 3/2 gaps is not something recommended for beginners. True. However listening to how to song is organized, 00:11:124 (1,2,3,4) for example, the 3/2 gap between (2,3) works the nicely since it makes the finish sound of the head of (3) clickable. It is never a familiar rhythm that beginners will enjoy, but they are surely fitting the song in a nice way. Also since the appearing object after the 3/2 gap is a slider, it is safer due to the slider leniency. It is fine enough in the current status even considering the difficulty spread with normal. However actually there is an alternative by making a 3/2 reverse slider starting at 00:11:921. I personally recommend using that rhythm in the following cases; 00:11:921 (2,3) - 00:22:123 (2,3) - where actually removing the finish of (3) makes more sense with the music. You can feel the actual difference with 00:14:950 - 00:25:152. Not a must though.
00:49:859 (1,2,3) - This 3/2 gap between (2,3) didn't fet nice enough compared to your previous usages. First of all, this part of the song doesn't demand such complexed pattern for an Easy, and 00:50:656 (3) wasn't worth enough for such rhythm imo. The following rhythm would work much better than the current one.
Then what was the problem about 3/2 rhythm gaps in the kiai? Using those rhythm sparingly in appropriate parts of the music works nicely while giving an impact to players. Just that it was kinda abused in the kiai section. You can feel yourself 3/2 is overused. To analyze single patterns; 00:59:583 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:09:785 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - acceptable usage of 3/2 since they were repeatedly appearing in the previous sections. 01:04:684 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:886 (1,2,3,4) - questionable usage of 3/2 since that rhythm appears too much in a short period of time between note and slider. You might think that it fits the music, but it is in fact highly questionable in the perspective of a respective difficulty. Especially the transition of 01:04:206 (4,1) - 01:14:408 (4,1) was pretty bad because the slider leniency which made your 3/2 rhythm acceptable wasn't even working here. How to change? Remember the 3/2 reverse slider I've recommended before? Using that rhythm will make this pattern much better.

or you can use the following rhythm to make the finish clickable.
00:13:674 (1,2,3,4) - Sudden 1.2x distance snapping without any proper logic. Make a consistent 1.1x.
00:27:702 - Missing Finish.
00:28:499 (3) - A single note is often one of the tough elements that beginners should deal with. Although there is enough time between the previous object, considering the approach circle is visible even before 00:27:224 (2) starts, removing this object will be more beginner friendly. Also there is not much musical cue since there is no dominant beat from 00:27:702, which leads to a possible trouble for beginners.
01:18:712 (3) - High recommended 3/2 slider due to the same reason with above.

저 외국분도 볼 수 있게 영어로 써드렸어요. 도약님은 영어 잘하니까 무리없이 이해하시리라고 믿어요.

요점은 3/2 사용하신 부분중에 괜찮은 것도 있었지만 고쳤으면 했던 점들이 있는 것입니다. 특히나 키아이에서는 너무 과하다 싶을 정도로 사용되어서 수정을 요청하는 거에요. 1/1만 주구장창 사용하면 지루한 이지가 되는건 사실이고 그 점은 잘 숙지하고 계신 것 같습니다. 1/1 텀을 두고 클릭하게 만드는 것이 쉬운 난이도 확보에 용이한 점도 알고 계실 겁니다. 00:07:458 (3,4,1)에도 3/2 슬라이더가 등장했지만 1/1 간격을 두고 클릭을 배치하셔서 무리도 없고 음악과도 잘 어울리는 패턴이었습니다. 한편 이지에서 1/1 이외의 텀을 두고 박자를 지정하실 때에는 정말로 음악과 잘 어울려야지 초보자들이 쉽게 박자를 잡을 수 있어요. 00:13:674 (1,2,3,4) 같은 경우는 음악과 너무 조화롭게 3/2 텀이 사용된 케이스죠. 제가 지적해드린 01:14:886 (1,2,3,4)는 3/2 텀을 충분히 피하고도 적절한 박자를 표현할 수 있던 케이스고요.

다시 말해 현재 상태 그대로를 원하시면 랭크로 가져갈 수는 있습니다만 이왕이면 3/2이 자제될 수 있는 부분은 빼고 1/1 텀으로 가는게 더 퀄리티 상 좋을 것 같다는 내용이에요.

Doyak

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Doyak 2015-10-12T18:38:28+00:00

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Gear

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Gear 2015-10-12T21:00:30+00:00

Lumael

Lumael wrote:
Gear

00:41:730 (5,1) - didnt get why the short spacing here, you did it big on the other similar occasions so i assume this is a mistake 00:41:570 (4) - maybe stack with 00:40:933 (2) - 's head, it'd improve the spacing here did that
00:53:207 (1) - uuh this blanket is getting on my nerves fixed
01:04:525 (7,1) - wtf this jump? it's too short compared to everything else like 01:03:249 (5,1) - 01:05:800 (5,1) - 01:09:626 (5,1) - which are similar sounds so i quite don't get why this brutal short ds here, it plays really awfully changed

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Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-13T10:24:34+00:00

Lumael wrote:
Hello, sorry for the delay ;w; No worries lol
Normal

00:33:137 - why this circle? there's nothing here to add a circle. im not saying it's a problem but you havent added on similar places so this one seens out of nowhere Wanted to emphasize on the hi-hat that is heard in the background, and it kinda goes well with 00:36:788 (1,2,3) - .
00:59:583 - although the kiai is good, the patterns are hell repetitive, you just used 2/3 patterns and you repeated them through all the kiai which is so boring to play and it can easily be noticed, it's not an unrankeable issue but please the gameplay is affected considerably by using those repetitive patterns through the most intense part of the song! Ikr lol I ran out of ideas at kiai xD Although I really like the way that it is mapped right now... made more variety in rhythm.
I liked a lot this diff, good job c: :D

That's it from me :3 The mapset is good and I hope to see it ranked in a near future <3

Good luck

Sonnyc wrote:
[Normal]
00:08:574 (1,2,3) - Silly distance that needs a fix. Whoops o.o Fixed.

Thanks for the mod both of you

Updated with Gear's update.

Kagari

750 posts

Joined October 2013

Kagari 2015-10-16T05:38:34+00:00

neppy <3

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

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Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-17T14:35:20+00:00

Kagari wrote:
neppy <3

Neptune is life <3

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2015-10-17T15:34:15+00:00

Hay, from your queue (m4m)

[General]

It's good

[Doyak's Easy]

00:15:747 (4) - fix this symmetry with slider. It's little unequal or i'm blind
00:30:412 (3) - this position will be better to play : http://puu.sh/kNtvR/c3062d46b5.jpg
00:43:164 (3) - slightly curve this slider for comfortable play imo
00:44:280 (1,2,3,4) - i prefer to do like this : http://puu.sh/kNtIF/6f39a48825.jpg

[Normal]

00:41:252 (4,5) - don't stack this ;-;
00:54:642 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/kNtUV/6beb5cf1ea.jpg try this
01:03:887 (5) - no linear slider :c
01:16:958 (6) - this position will be nice : http://puu.sh/kNtZt/2c7834e9ee.jpg

[Hard]

HP - 5,5 prefer, bcs Insane have 6 HP and maybe if you want CS - 3,8

It's nice. It plays very good waaw :3

[Gear's Insane]

00:05:545 (3) - NC
00:23:876 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/kNuS0/c4c85d9508.jpg ?
00:25:152 (1,2,3) - delete 2. Triplet here don't work
00:37:266 (3,4,5) - ^ Make here jumpy pattern like this : http://puu.sh/kNuYA/d9a2b7d483.jpg
00:40:295 (4) - symmetry this with slider end to play better
01:30:029 (6,7,8,9) - NC and don't stack it please

[Walao's Insane]

hi waly again :3

00:24:195 (2) - http://puu.sh/kNvdE/8a3e681929.jpg ?
00:38:382 (3,6) - NC for nice pattern?
01:30:029 (7,1) - swap NC's?

I hope that helped. GL !

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

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Topic Starter

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-18T12:04:43+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
Hay, from your queue (m4m)

[General]

It's good

[Normal]

00:41:252 (4,5) - don't stack this ;-; I don't see why I shouldn't stack these, I don't want the slider to be way off to the right, and I don't want to involve much movement with 1/2 gaps before kiai.
00:54:642 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/kNtUV/6beb5cf1ea.jpg try this Ok then
01:03:887 (5) - no linear slider :c Didn't really want to chain the red-anchored-sliders too much.
01:16:958 (6) - this position will be nice : http://puu.sh/kNtZt/2c7834e9ee.jpg It is fine, I feel this flows much more better as it leads into the next slider.

[Hard]

HP - 5,5 prefer, bcs Insane have 6 HP and maybe if you want CS - 3,8 Didn't notice the HP lol, applied the HP. But I think CS is fine right now, but will change it up if BNs brings this up.

It's nice. It plays very good waaw :3 :D

I hope that helped. GL !

Thanks for the mod! Will get to your map ASAP.

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,367 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2015-10-25T02:00:02+00:00

[Hard]

AR7 for better difficulty setting spread.

00:54:642 (1,2,3) - Parallel in same spacing between slider bodies.

[Gear's Insane]

Why there is no video here?

00:27:702 (1) - Don't think the stack is fine.There is a sound at 00:27:543. And the stack could mislead players to click at that sound.I know you are following the drum sound here but it could really be a too tricky stack from my end. I'd recommend you move it to somewhere else for better readability.

00:58:786 (3,1) - Male the spacing between them further. You use several 1/2 jumps in former part and here it is also inclined to be read as 1/2 jumps by the players.

00:15:747 (1,2,3,1) - Too huge spacing. I didnt even see this large in Kiai.

[Walao's Insane]

00:32:644 (5,6) - There should not be a jump. The music doesn't support. Same at 00:33:760 (4,5) -

01:02:612 (2,3,4,5,1) - Quite weird flow.

Sorry couldnt find more probs. So have a star!
Good luck!

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

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Topic Starter

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-25T12:14:43+00:00

Regraz wrote:
[Hard]

AR7 for better difficulty setting spread. Ok sure why not
00:54:642 (1,2,3) - Parallel in same spacing between slider bodies. Okay I didn't notice that, fixed.

[Gear's Insane]

Why there is no video here? Lol opps x.x Added.

Sorry couldnt find more probs. So have a star! Thanks
Good luck!

Thanks for the mod! Unfortunately BSS is being bad to me again and won't let me upload :/ Will update the changes tomorrow.

Gear

148 posts

Joined November 2012

Gear 2015-10-26T06:29:23+00:00

Rawr.

Kalibe

Kalibe wrote:
Gear's Insane

00:05:545 (3) - NC ok
00:23:876 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/kNuS0/c4c85d9508.jpg ? nah, keep current
00:25:152 (1,2,3) - delete 2. Triplet here don't work whaa? i'm definitely hearing it there
00:37:266 (3,4,5) - ^ Make here jumpy pattern like this : http://puu.sh/kNuYA/d9a2b7d483.jpg keep this z
00:40:295 (4) - symmetry this with slider end to play better okay
01:30:029 (6,7,8,9) - NC and don't stack it please changed

Regraz

Regraz wrote:
Gear's Insane

Why there is no video here? ayy lol i downloaded the map with no vid maybe that's why it happened i dunno, added though

00:27:702 (1) - Don't think the stack is fine.There is a sound at 00:27:543. And the stack could mislead players to click at that sound.I know you are following the drum sound here but it could really be a too tricky stack from my end. I'd recommend you move it to somewhere else for better readability. moved

00:58:786 (3,1) - Male the spacing between them further. You use several 1/2 jumps in former part and here it is also inclined to be read as 1/2 jumps by the players. changed this

00:15:747 (1,2,3,1) - Too huge spacing. I didnt even see this large in Kiai. i was drunk af, lowered slightly

thanks cuties

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Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-26T09:45:19+00:00

Updated with Gear's update.

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2015-10-26T10:21:29+00:00

I'll check all the mods soon, just saying I didn't forget this xD

walaowey

952 posts

Joined March 2012

walaowey 2015-10-27T12:25:28+00:00

Lumael wrote:
Hello, sorry for the delay ;w;

Walao

00:23:080 (2,3) - 00:24:673 (4,5) - considering simillar sounds and this difficulty overall, i didn't get why you used short ds here since in all the other occasions you used big jumps which makes a small inconsistency here which can be easily noticed while playing I fix the 2nd one only, actually the low spacing is use to match the part which has no beats..seems like i've make a mistake for the 2nd one, as it has beats there
01:17:436 (5) - uuh this small spacing here is getting on my nerves, moreover, 01:17:436 (5,1) - swipe nc here would be nice, still didnt get why you added on the stream but not on this beat + the weird spacing kk fixed, I focus too much on the big white tick lel..
I liked how this diff flows, nicee

That's it from me :3 The mapset is good and I hope to see it ranked in a near future <3

Good luck

Thanks for the mod xD

Kalibe wrote:
Hay, from your queue (m4m)

[Walao's Insane]

hi waly again :3 hi o/

00:24:195 (2) - http://puu.sh/kNvdE/8a3e681929.jpg ? nope i think bcoz http://puu.sh/kZpHF/a3c58e5e3d.jpg
00:38:382 (3,6) - NC for nice pattern? fixed
01:30:029 (7,1) - swap NC's? nope for this, the downbeats is on the big white tick

I hope that helped. GL !

Thanks for the mod xD

Regraz wrote:
[Walao's Insane]

00:32:644 (5,6) - There should not be a jump. The music doesn't support. Same at 00:33:760 (4,5) - i think its ok , (5,6) - to emphasize the stronger beat on (6), (4,5) - same as (5,6)

01:02:612 (2,3,4,5,1) - Quite weird flow. yeah the flow is quite sharp here, but i think it flows well..

Sorry couldnt find more probs. So have a star!
Good luck!

thanks for the mod xD

asdadas

osu file format v14

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Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

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Topic Starter

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-27T13:00:43+00:00

Alright, updated.

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2015-10-27T14:27:49+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
[Doyak's Easy]
Using 3/2 gaps is not something recommended for beginners. True. However listening to how to song is organized, 00:11:124 (1,2,3,4) for example, the 3/2 gap between (2,3) works the nicely since it makes the finish sound of the head of (3) clickable. It is never a familiar rhythm that beginners will enjoy, but they are surely fitting the song in a nice way. Also since the appearing object after the 3/2 gap is a slider, it is safer due to the slider leniency. It is fine enough in the current status even considering the difficulty spread with normal. However actually there is an alternative by making a 3/2 reverse slider starting at 00:11:921. I personally recommend using that rhythm in the following cases; 00:11:921 (2,3) - 00:22:123 (2,3) - where actually removing the finish of (3) makes more sense with the music. You can feel the actual difference with 00:14:950 - 00:25:152. Not a must though.
00:49:859 (1,2,3) - This 3/2 gap between (2,3) didn't fet nice enough compared to your previous usages. First of all, this part of the song doesn't demand such complexed pattern for an Easy, and 00:50:656 (3) wasn't worth enough for such rhythm imo. The following rhythm would work much better than the current one.
Then what was the problem about 3/2 rhythm gaps in the kiai? Using those rhythm sparingly in appropriate parts of the music works nicely while giving an impact to players. Just that it was kinda abused in the kiai section. You can feel yourself 3/2 is overused. To analyze single patterns; 00:59:583 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:09:785 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - acceptable usage of 3/2 since they were repeatedly appearing in the previous sections. 01:04:684 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:886 (1,2,3,4) - questionable usage of 3/2 since that rhythm appears too much in a short period of time between note and slider. You might think that it fits the music, but it is in fact highly questionable in the perspective of a respective difficulty. Especially the transition of 01:04:206 (4,1) - 01:14:408 (4,1) was pretty bad because the slider leniency which made your 3/2 rhythm acceptable wasn't even working here. How to change? Remember the 3/2 reverse slider I've recommended before? Using that rhythm will make this pattern much better.

or you can use the following rhythm to make the finish clickable.
00:13:674 (1,2,3,4) - Sudden 1.2x distance snapping without any proper logic. Make a consistent 1.1x.
00:27:702 - Missing Finish.
00:28:499 (3) - A single note is often one of the tough elements that beginners should deal with. Although there is enough time between the previous object, considering the approach circle is visible even before 00:27:224 (2) starts, removing this object will be more beginner friendly. Also there is not much musical cue since there is no dominant beat from 00:27:702, which leads to a possible trouble for beginners.
01:18:712 (3) - High recommended 3/2 slider due to the same reason with above.
저 외국분도 볼 수 있게 영어로 써드렸어요. 도약님은 영어 잘하니까 무리없이 이해하시리라고 믿어요.

요점은 3/2 사용하신 부분중에 괜찮은 것도 있었지만 고쳤으면 했던 점들이 있는 것입니다. 특히나 키아이에서는 너무 과하다 싶을 정도로 사용되어서 수정을 요청하는 거에요. 1/1만 주구장창 사용하면 지루한 이지가 되는건 사실이고 그 점은 잘 숙지하고 계신 것 같습니다. 1/1 텀을 두고 클릭하게 만드는 것이 쉬운 난이도 확보에 용이한 점도 알고 계실 겁니다. 00:07:458 (3,4,1)에도 3/2 슬라이더가 등장했지만 1/1 간격을 두고 클릭을 배치하셔서 무리도 없고 음악과도 잘 어울리는 패턴이었습니다. 한편 이지에서 1/1 이외의 텀을 두고 박자를 지정하실 때에는 정말로 음악과 잘 어울려야지 초보자들이 쉽게 박자를 잡을 수 있어요. 00:13:674 (1,2,3,4) 같은 경우는 음악과 너무 조화롭게 3/2 텀이 사용된 케이스죠. 제가 지적해드린 01:14:886 (1,2,3,4)는 3/2 텀을 충분히 피하고도 적절한 박자를 표현할 수 있던 케이스고요.

다시 말해 현재 상태 그대로를 원하시면 랭크로 가져갈 수는 있습니다만 이왕이면 3/2이 자제될 수 있는 부분은 빼고 1/1 텀으로 가는게 더 퀄리티 상 좋을 것 같다는 내용이에요.

다 고쳤습니다. 도와주셔서 정말 감사합니다!

Lumael wrote:
Easy

00:03:632 (1) - it's quite awful how this slider overlaps with 00:02:038 (2) - and it's probably unrankeable as well, it's too confusing, i highly recommend you to fix this, you can try something like that http://puu.sh/kHzU2/9a8a883a1e.jpg Just made it stack. The overlap isn't a big issue, since there is enough time gap between them. It flows well, so I won't remove the overlap.
00:09:371 (2,1) - ^ quite the same thing and here its even worst because its the head of the slider Same, if you imagine a newbie plays this, they won't even notice the overlap since 00:09:371 (2) - this is already gone when they're concentrating on 00:10:008 (3) - . It's the head of the slider, but 00:09:371 (2) - this is also the head, so there won't be 300 sign remaining there as well.
00:22:123 (2,3) - avoid this kind of gap, its really confusing for an easy, you should only use this on normal or higher, on easy its an overkill to make this, the only way to read this is by the approach circle, and people who play easies don't even know what is the approach circle properly... 00:43:164 (3,1) - 00:50:178 (2,3) - same, there may be more, there's no point in linking them all Kinda fixed some, but if you mean the whole map... well...
00:58:467 (3) - uuh not sure about this rhythm, you could use a 1/1 slider followed by 1/2 slider, it'd follow much better this sound here http://puu.sh/kHA5o/d2437bc598.jpg You know, 1/2 slider is the worst even than 3/2 gap if you say difficulty though...
00:59:583 - please rework on your kiai, the gaps are 100% confusing and probably unrankeable as well, its too hard to read that Uhh kinda reworked for confusing parts? But just the fact there exists 3/2 gaps isn't a problem though.

Thanks for your mod!

Kalibe wrote:
[Doyak's Easy]

00:15:747 (4) - fix this symmetry with slider. It's little unequal or i'm blind I guess I even mistakenly changed sv there and didn't copy paste it so anyway fixed.
00:30:412 (3) - this position will be better to play : http://puu.sh/kNtvR/c3062d46b5.jpg Fixed.
00:43:164 (3) - slightly curve this slider for comfortable play imo Too many curves before and after that one, so might be better to have a straight between them.
00:44:280 (1,2,3,4) - i prefer to do like this : http://puu.sh/kNtIF/6f39a48825.jpg Then the 3/2 gap gets too much confusing, since it somehow looks like close because (1) and (3) are close to each other, it visually makes it confusing a little.
I hope that helped. GL ! Girls' Love? Just kidding xD

Thanks for your mod!

Star rating is just 0.02 down but it actually went much easier

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Gear

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Gear 2015-10-28T03:36:06+00:00

Also I noticed that the video wasn't in sync with the song like the original PV, the video offset should be -289 or something close to that.

Sc4v4ng3r

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Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-28T09:22:51+00:00

Updated.

Gear wrote:
Also I noticed that the video wasn't in sync with the song like the original PV, the video offset should be -289 or something close to that.

Yea now it seems to be in sync(hopefully), fixed this too.

Myxo

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Myxo 2015-10-28T22:18:35+00:00

As requested

[Walao's Insane]

Overall the diff is pretty nice, sometimes the NCs seem a bit spammy / questionable though.
00:07:777 (1) - 00:17:979 (1) - 00:25:630 (1) - 01:21:740 (1) - These NCs seems kinda unnecessary to me, I don't really understand the single-object combos here.
00:59:264 (1) - Remove this NC? Seems spammy here.

[Gear's Insane]

Cool diff! The flow is really nice.
The only thing that bothered me a bit, the map could use some more hitsound-diversity. I mainly mean that it would be nice to add some more finish hitsounds at very strong notes, for example in the verse 00:06:023 - 00:08:574 - 00:11:124 - and so on, in the chorus 01:00:858 - 01:02:134 - 01:03:409 - and so on. It's of course your decision.

[Normal]

I'm not a huge fan of this difficulty. The SV and spacing are fairly low so that 1/2 touches each other, but the density is quite high in the chorus, which creates huge chains of 1/2-objects that don't really look structured. There is not much that can be done now, just an advise for future mapping: If you have high density rhythms like these 01:12:176 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - for example, it fits well to choose a higher SV + spacing so that 1/2-objects don't touch each other (it will be more difficult, fitting to the rhythmic difficulty). It would make the Normal more structured and readable.

[Doyak's Easy]

01:08:032 (2,3,4,1) - Hmm, this rhythm might be a bit tricky to read for a newbie player. 3/2-gaps are easier to play with sliders following afterwards as those can be clicked a bit later or sooner without a punishment. My advise would be to use this rhythm: http://puu.sh/l1e5p/2b287a2ea4.jpg

Not many specifics to point out as you can see, more general comments or smaller global issues in the difficulties. While I'm completely fine with Hard I don't think Normal is of high enough quality for me to bubble this mapset, but I'm sure you will get it qualified soon anyway! Best of luck~

Sc4v4ng3r

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Sc4v4ng3r 2015-10-28T23:50:50+00:00

Will reply to this after I get back~

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2015-10-29T01:00:27+00:00

Just dropping by, don't mind me (:

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Good luck with the map!
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