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Kaguya Hourain wrote:

Alright as promised, here we go

[ General]

Timing settings are okay.
Make sure tags don't conflict with the rest of the diffs, like AiMod suggests, fix some preview point snapping in the taiko difficulties and, finally, make sure all letterbox boxes are ticked or unticked. How would I fix this for the taiko diffs




[ Tesla's Insane]

00:26:225 (5,1) - I don't get the space created here. This can be mapped to vocals with 1/2 sliders. Done this.

00:27:804 (6) - Moving this to x:329 y:119 makes a better blanket.

00:44:295 (3,4,5,6) - Yeah as I told you before, I have huge issues with this. 1/4 with silenced sliderends is not good, especially on an Insane level difficulty. Making these 1/2 circles or making the sliderends at least audible would be better. I increased slider end volume to 50%

00:54:821 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These are barely audible. Increase volume at least a little bit. Flowbreak on the stream part is also a little too hard for Insane dificulty. They're pretty darn audible, I've increased the volume a bit though since it's a stream and response when hitting a stream makes it easier to hit. Also by the flow breaking you mean the reduction in DS at the end of the stream? I think it's pretty neat and if anything would make it a bit easier.

01:12:716 (5,6) - Not sure how I feel about these after seeing the stream before it. I assume you're looking for variety but sacrificing consistency for variety resulting in making the map harder is to be reconsidered. These are mapped to a violin and they are on a point where 1/4 quintuples have been mapped on before in the stanza so is not a complete shock.


Endnote: Too much 1/4 in this. Too much indeed. The Hard difficulty has no 1/4 whatsoever and right afterwards we jump to 1/4 kicksliders. Pretty big space in difficulty if you ask me, it shows in the star rating as well. Nearly two whole stars difficulty gap is too much and quite frankly unrankable. As a final note I suggest that you remove plenty of 1/4 from this. I think I agree with this, I'll talk to Tess about reducing the difficulty of her section a bit, since there are 1/4 triples that could definitely be taken out without detriment to the map and maybe some decreased spacing to reduce dat star rating, also to work on a solution for the end.


[ Pinky]

00:23:242 (2) - Bend this a little more, more curvy, more sexy, more blanket! fixed

00:44:295 (3,4,5,6) - Not really sure for this difficulty, I guess we can let this slide since you consider this an X diff probably. I really like this regardless 8)

01:02:190 (3,5) - Blanket yo. x:225 y:43 best blanket. fixed blanket

01:29:909 - I don't know why this green line is even here anymore :/ Me neither

01:47:628 (4,5) - Why don't you blanket this? i think i moved it about lazily one time and never did it, fixed.

Endnote: This is a pretty good difficulty. It even has way less kicksliders than Insane, which proves that you can make something difficult out of this song without them. Nice ideas here. thanks
Thanks for the mod!
Dainesl
Yay I get to mod this

Nwolf's Muzukashii

This mod is mostly about consistency things and some nitpicks, nothing major here really, just a small mod :3

  1. 00:22:541 - I would like it if you added a couple more notes from here to 00:28:155 - as it's very very different from the Oni; and this section is extremely low density compared to the next one so...
  2. 00:44:997 (44) - Nitpick - quite a significant note here; consider adding a finish here? (sounds a bit better as a big kat instead of a big don as it's not exactly super super hard
  3. 01:09:558 (51,52,53) - sudden switch from vocal to instrumental mapping due to the middle note of this triplet, might want to reconsider this as it's extremely inconsistent with the rest of the Kiai (it's the only one). Also it's not monochrome so that makes it quite challenging; a further point to consider. If you don't get rid of 52 then at least make 53 a don to make the pattern more suitable (yet again inconsistent I know but playability is also something that is a bit more important; thus you take musical liberties).
  4. 01:14:646 (74) - consider removing this note for a more noticeable transition into different vocals; right now it seems like the transition is muddled since both types of vocals are in the same pattern. OH YEAH AND IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH 01:06:400 (39,40,41,42) - OK (just saying)
  5. 01:41:137 - same as first suggestion, whatever you do there, do here
  6. 01:54:120 (39,40,41,42,43) - Why are 5-plets like this here when they weren't at places like 00:35:523 (8,9,10,11) - which sound pretty much the same, mind you?
  7. 02:03:593 (79) - Nitpick - same as 00:44:997
  8. 02:24:821 (46) - same as 01:14:646, if you don't do it there at least do it here so that it's fully consistent with the previous kiai and the other transitional vocals get more emphasis I guess
  9. 02:28:155 (61,62,63) - same as 01:09:558
  10. 02:33:242 (86) - same as 01:14:646, if applied there apply here too.
Kurosanyan's Oni

first off the quiet parts' hitsounds are too loud; at least reduce them by 10% or something

secondly AIMod says there's a lot of unsnapped notes but it might be some sort of glitch or something, so get back to me click here

This mod is mostly about buildup and nice-sounding patterns (the second one being extremely subjective so take them with a grain of salt, do consider the buildup though, that could make the quality a bit higher!)

  1. 00:29:207 (29) - and 00:30:786 (41) - consider deleting these notes to create the effect of intense buildup while keeping the idea of a buildup due to spaces (also the section after it is louder and has more spaces; going from this to that is quite jarring to the song so at least put one or two spaces here too)
  2. 00:47:014 (17,18) - Perhaps swap these so that both this pattern and the one before it sound the same; this would be a nice effect imo!
  3. 00:52:628 (17,18) - see above.
  4. 00:54:997 (37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44) - Consider making this pattern slightly easier for a more effective buildup to the Kiai; going from easy non-chorus to hard chorus is always a fun emphasis tool :3
  5. Between 01:46:751 (41) - and 01:49:558 (61) - perhaps get rid of two 1/4 patterns; this part of the song is really quiet so 4 1/4 patterns is too much imo
  6. 02:05:699 (19) - Nitpick - Maybe make this a don to be consistent with 2nd and 3rd suggestions
  7. 02:11:313 (19) - Nitpick - see above.
  8. 02:36:049 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68) - Why is the most difficult pattern at the end? Sure, it's not much harder than normal but could catch players off-guard so perhaps delete 67 just to be on the safe side.
Good luck for ranking! o/
Kurosanyan

Dainesl wrote:

first off the quiet parts' hitsounds are too loud; at least reduce them by 10% or something Fixed I guess

secondly AIMod says there's a lot of unsnapped notes but it might be some sort of glitch or something, so get back to me click here Yes it's a snap glitch. It's snapped correctly now.

  1. 00:29:207 (29) - and 00:30:786 (41) - consider deleting these notes to create the effect of intense buildup while keeping the idea of a buildup due to spaces (also the section after it is louder and has more spaces; going from this to that is quite jarring to the song so at least put one or two spaces here too) I know what you mean but breaks feel weird here. Probably because of the strong vocals.
  2. 00:47:014 (17,18) - Perhaps swap these so that both this pattern and the one before it sound the same; this would be a nice effect imo! The music change between those two patterns and I don't really like repeating a pattern if the music suggest me to do another one.
  3. 00:54:997 (37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44) - Consider making this pattern slightly easier for a more effective buildup to the Kiai; going from easy non-chorus to hard chorus is always a fun emphasis tool :3 I like it better the way it is and I don't think this song's chorus is worth an emphasis anyway. :c
  4. Between 01:46:751 (41) - and 01:49:558 (61) - perhaps get rid of two 1/4 patterns; this part of the song is really quiet so 4 1/4 patterns is too much imo ... :( Okay then
  5. 02:05:699 (19) - Nitpick - Maybe make this a don to be consistent with 2nd and 3rd suggestions Well I didn't fix those and I like my dkkdk, so...
  6. 02:36:049 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68) - Why is the most difficult pattern at the end? Sure, it's not much harder than normal but could catch players off-guard so perhaps delete 67 just to be on the safe side. Imo it's not the hardest part. I have more trouble with the dkkdk personally. Also I think removing 67 would only make it harder.
Thanks
Aiceo
EAT MY STARS!
Arrival
Okay gogo

[General]

Isn't the mapset lacking an Easy ??

You really should put CUSTOM HITSOUNDS. I can give you some if you don't find.

I'm REALLY annoyed by the fact any of the std diffs finish here 02:37:277 - . You should finish at 02:59:734 - ! This would make more sense.

[-GN's Normal]

I'm making this mod as if I mod an EASY NORMAL. Diffspread purposes.
CHECK YOUR DISTANCE SNAP : There are some spacing problems.

00:35:874 (5,6) - Not a big deal, but this kind of stack on easy is a bit hard to read. Consider this maybe. (It's the same with 00:49:909 (2) - etc..)
00:51:488 (5) - Better curve please.
00:56:225 (1) - Make it as a REAL POLYGON. (Compose -> Create Polygon circles)
01:18:681 - Wow this break seems kinda long. Consider mapping when the vocals start again.
01:57:277 (2) - Avoid the multiple repetitions. Change to one reverse.
02:32:716 (1) - Remove your NC

Pretty nice diff overall. Well done.

[Ayu's Hard]

Consider reducing your AR to 7.

00:32:365 (1) - I'm pretty sure you can stack the tail of your slider with the beginning of 00:31:663 (3) - .
01:18:681 - The break is imo too long, start mapps restart.

Nothing else to say, great diff !

[Tesla's Insane]

00:40:786 (1) - What about a curve on this slider ?
00:50:435 (6) - Consider placing this circle [url=00:50:435 (6) -]here[/url] to make a triangle. A bit better to play imo.
00:54:646 (8) - NAZI : Pt it so x=444
01:03:067 (7,8) - It's going a bit offscreen, be careful.
01:18:681 - The break is imo too long.
01:49:558 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I really feel like this was put a bit randomly... Try making 2 squares or something with more sense.
02:25:699 (1) - Remove NC

Nice map !

[Pinky]

02:00:084 (1,4) - Stack them with 01:59:909 (3) -
02:36:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This stream is a bit ugly, you could space it a bit more, or give it another shape :>

Maybe a bit overmapped, but it's definetly not bad !

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]

00:02:541 - I understand that for the purpose of the flow you didn't place a not here, but it really sounds weird without a kat. (Same here 00:08:155 - )
02:33:593 (88) - Place this don here : 02:33:769 -

Nice Muzu !

[Kurosanyan's Oni]

00:09:207 - Spinner ?
00:33:155 (61) - Transforme en k ? Je trouve qe ça va mieux en terme de sonorité.

Bien joué ! J'aime beaucoup. (Pour une fois :D)

Good mapset overall, I hope you'll get that ranked soon ! I'll star it as soon as I have the kd, for sure !
Good luck Hula !
Kurosanyan

Arrival wrote:

[General]

Isn't the mapset lacking an Easy ?? As long as a mapset has a map under 2 stars, it doesn't need something easier, so it's fine.

I'm REALLY annoyed by the fact any of the std diffs finish here 02:37:277 - . You should finish at 02:59:734 - ! This would make more sense. I'm okay with this if Hula wants to do it. I don't mind either way, both ends are fine to me.

[Kurosanyan's Oni]

00:09:207 - Spinner ? The "spinner" sound started way before that and it feels really awkward to me to start a spin at this point.
00:33:155 (61) - Transforme en k ? Je trouve qe ça va mieux en terme de sonorité. I don't really agree with the fact it sounds better and there's the fact it doesn't fit with the others pattern I did for this part (look where are the previous kats, it's a long structure).

Bien joué ! J'aime beaucoup. (Pour une fois :D) modchickentechnonow

I'll star it as soon as I have the kd, for sure ! *Denies kudo*
Oui je te réponds en anglais, firetruck la baguette.
Nwolf

Kurosanyan wrote:

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]
As I said, mod for Nwolf's Muzukashii (1 day late though)
As Lust said, the Muzukashii lacks notes and the gap between the 2 maps is a bit too big. Spread does not matter if there's only two taiko diffs
First I'll say what feels wrong to me in your map, then I'll make some suggestions to make it a bit more Muzukashii.

  1. You really should put OD 4. Maybe HP 4 too, but I don't think this one is as much important. OD 4 done
  2. 00:22:541 (8,9,10) - There's drums at 00:22:892 - and 00:23:418 - and the next beat following those two drums is at 00:23:769 -
    I would suggest :
    and for the next pattern ( 00:25:348 (11,12,13) - ) :
    Adding a note on the next one prepare the player to the fact that the real map is coming soon.
    This or you could try to put the katsu on a white tick, but it doesn't really fit to the beat and to 00:28:155 (15,16,17,18,19) - neither. changed it in a different way
  3. 01:13:067 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - This part is really weird because you switch between lots of things.
    01:13:067 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75) - Is the OHOHOH OH thing that you followed on the whole kiai.
    01:14:997 (76,77,78,79) - Is the female singer (and the end of the WOHOHO O is ignored).
    01:15:874 (79,80) - Oh, it follows the melody.
    01:16:576 (81) - Or is it the female singer? The drums?
    01:16:751 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - Well I don't know anymore man.
    You should find a way to make it more consistent. Actually the whole thing is following drums (there's drums everywhere anyway) but the way you mapped it, it's confusing. If you want to follow drums, add more notes and if you want to follow something else, move those notes.
    Personally, I'd suggest to follow the hohoho ho until 01:15:874 - but there's probably others fine ways. only moved 01:14:997 (77) - by 1/2
  4. 01:18:681 (88,1,1) - Put the same thing as in the Oni? no
  5. 01:41:137 (8,9,10) - 01:43:944 (11,12,13) - Same suggestion as before. same change
  • To have more notes, first you need to... add more notes! Well, as an example, turning two 2 notes patterns (there's a lot of those) in a 5 notes one. Just avoid to make them too long. 5 1/2 notes is cool, 7 1/2 notes is a bit tricky but is fine, avoid going above this except for slow songs or easy patterns like 02:13:418 (120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127) - . Then you should try to add more ddd and kkk (but not too much) or even ddk and kkd.
    I'll make some random suggestions of what you could add but feel free to do whatever you want:
  1. 00:36:049 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) -
  2. 00:43:944 (40,41,42,43,44) -
Explained at the beginning of post why there's no change

I hope you'll be able to add more notes without making errors or a map too much repetitive/too hard, good luck.

Dainesl wrote:

Yay I get to mod this

Nwolf's Muzukashii

This mod is mostly about consistency things and some nitpicks, nothing major here really, just a small mod :3

  1. 00:22:541 - I would like it if you added a couple more notes from here to 00:28:155 - as it's very very different from the Oni; and this section is extremely low density compared to the next one so... done
  2. 00:44:997 (44) - Nitpick - quite a significant note here; consider adding a finish here? (sounds a bit better as a big kat instead of a big don as it's not exactly super super hard changed previous note to kat to emphasis don here more
  3. 01:09:558 (51,52,53) - sudden switch from vocal to instrumental mapping due to the middle note of this triplet, might want to reconsider this as it's extremely inconsistent with the rest of the Kiai (it's the only one). Also it's not monochrome so that makes it quite challenging; a further point to consider. If you don't get rid of 52 then at least make 53 a don to make the pattern more suitable (yet again inconsistent I know but playability is also something that is a bit more important; thus you take musical liberties). Consistent with other additions of 1/4 here
  4. 01:14:646 (74) - consider removing this note for a more noticeable transition into different vocals; right now it seems like the transition is muddled since both types of vocals are in the same pattern. OH YEAH AND IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH 01:06:400 (39,40,41,42) - OK (just saying) ye
  5. 01:54:120 (39,40,41,42,43) - Why are 5-plets like this here when they weren't at places like 00:35:523 (8,9,10,11) - which sound pretty much the same, mind you? Since song is incredibly repetitive, first section is kinda empty and repetition adds more notes so it becomes a bit harder this time (normal difficulty actually)
  6. 02:03:593 (79) - Nitpick - same as 00:44:997 changed
  7. 02:24:821 (46) - same as 01:14:646, if you don't do it there at least do it here so that it's fully consistent with the previous kiai and the other transitional vocals get more emphasis I guess ye
  8. 02:28:155 (61,62,63) - same as 01:09:558
  9. 02:33:242 (86) - same as 01:14:646, if applied there apply here too. yes

Aiceo wrote:

[Nwolf's Muzukashii]

00:02:541 - I understand that for the purpose of the flow you didn't place a not here, but it really sounds weird without a kat. (Same here 00:08:155 - ) might consider doing this, wanna have a break here tho
02:33:593 (88) - Place this don here : 02:33:769 - wut why
thx!

http://puu.sh/cVYwU/e86d9dd9f7.osu
-GN
Dasheroo

Dasheroo wrote:

Normal
Something general... Ar 3 is better for a normal, I guess. :arrow: i guess that works better
This map has a lot of bad flow.. For example, here 00:42:892 -
Try to do something like.. This http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2238803 :arrow: i don't see the problem - the angle isn't too sharp
Try to fix the other bad points, like this 01:15:874 (1) -.
It's better if you put that circle here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2238810 :arrow: moved it elsewhere
01:15:889 - This spinner, so closed to that circle, can confuse a newbie. He has no time to understand what's happening. It's not readable by a low-level player. Believe me. :arrow: a spinner does not require constant motion, and these spinners are lenient because of the low OD - this gap is perfectly fine
01:45:348 - Try to do something symmetric to this 01:43:944 - :arrow: intended subversion
01:57:277 (2,1) - This overlap looks bad... :arrow: literally unfixable if i'm gonna keep my current DS and motion. beginners don't enjoy stacks, either
01:59:734 (4,1) - ^ :arrow: this part has been redone a bit
02:13:418 - It's hard for a newbie to singletap 4 sequential notes. Maybe 1/2 reverse slider? :arrow: it's not a physical limit by any means, so it's fine to do it this way - the spacing here is lowered too
02:28:330 (4,1) - Try to avoid the overlap :arrow: also unfixable
02:33:418 (2,1) - ^ :arrow: also unfixable. these smaller gaps is not a problem
Looks bad in these points.

Kaguya Hourain

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

[ -GN's Normal]

00:33:769 (1,3) - Man this blanket here could look better if the two sliders were not almost overlapping. Try spreading 3 out a little bit and move it backwards like shown in the image below. Make sure you readjust some of the spacing afterwards if you choose to follow this piece of advice.
*snip* :arrow: fixed

00:36:049 (6,1) - I see no reason why you wouldn't want to follow the sliderpath here and reversing the flow like you're doing here. Will ruin blanket, sure, but the result would be much more appealing in my eyes if you could pull off something like shown next up. If you decide not to follow this suggestion, I would at least suggest to make 1 a little more curvy for a better blanket with circle 4.
*snip* :arrow: 90% sure this is the result of some retarded misplacement on my end - changed stuff from slider (5) to the next (3)

00:40:260 (3) - Middle point at x:143 y:239 and endpoint at x:166 y:326 should make this blanket perfect. :arrow: ok

00:44:295 (5) - Avoid this sort of slider, please. It's pretty hard to read, especially considering that this is the first difficulty in the set, you should give the 1/2 repeat spam a rest. For this here, I would just go with 2 sliders with 1/2 spacing. :arrow: very high pressure in this part, but okay

00:45:699 (2,4) - As before, the circle internally overlaps with the slider, making the combination look ugly. Suggestion here is to do the same as above :P :arrow: fixed

00:47:979 (3,4) - This sort of spacing can be a little confusing for newcomers. Easiest solution here would be to rotate 4 clockwise enough so that it doesn't overlap with 3, making it also a bit more readable in that aspect. You could flip 3 horizontally on top of that for maximum Kreygasm. Ending result could look like this:
*snip* :arrow: did some other changes to reduce beats

00:50:084 (3,4,5) - Here we have another overlap that could easily be avoided. Moving 4 a bit downwards so that the spacing will allow you to move 5 a bit to the left and readjusting the blanket without the overlap seems to be the better choice here. End result:
*snip* :arrow: yeah

00:53:418 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - Having those basically muted is unintuitive and in my opinion silly. Doesn't serve for a buildup any better than it would be if you added some hitsounds to it. :arrow: i blame hula's hitsounds

00:58:506 (4) - Moving the midpoint to x:149 y:178 and the endpoint to x:111 y:217 in this slider should pretty up this blanket quite a lot. :arrow: easy fix

01:00:084 (2) - Why not go for a double blanket here?! Make the slider's head blanket with the slider 4 I mentioned above and rotate this here slider 2 enough so that it blankets with 1! Wouldn't that be cool? Here like so:
*snip* :arrow: fair point

01:05:699 (3) - Move this slider to x:275 y:299 and see the magic :D :arrow: x:276*

01:09:734 (3,1) - This looks pretty neat, nice! :arrow: o-okay

01:15:918 (1) - No point starting this 1/8 afterwards. Noone has enough reaction time at this level for 1/8 spacing. Would move it 1/4 apart instead. :arrow: you say this like a spinner requires input from the start

01:29:909 - Not sure if you need this green line for anything. Remove it if you want. :arrow: i love that green line because it's my favorite one in the map, i named it Saft and everything ;_;

01:41:137 (1,2,1) - Now this looks more like it! Nice! :arrow: lol

01:45:348 (3,1) - Kaguya disapproves of this blanket and also of the copypasta that has taken place here. Just moving the middle point of slider 1 to x:259 y:221 makes the blanket lots more delicious. :arrow: another way of fixing this has taken place. copypasta will stay

01:53:242 (3) - These sliderpoints (along with others so far) have given me the impression that you have done a rush job to this. The imperfect blankets speak for themselves. Middlepoint at x:257 y:337 and endpoint at x:184 y:371 fix your blanket. :arrow: :V

01:57:277 (2) - Same suggestion as previously, use 2 sliders. :arrow: fixed

02:02:892 (5) - Same as above actually! :arrow: v

02:03:593 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Since you seem to have copypasted this entire section, I guess fixing the stuff from the previous section identical to it and copypasting them here again works. :arrow: yes

02:13:418 (1,2,3,4) - You seem to have fixed the issue here as opposed to your previous section. :arrow: i haven't touched the greenlines anywhere except for removing some 5% volume ones

02:31:663 (1,1) - This combinations looks pretty bad-looking. Why don't you make orange blanket blue's sliderend? Flow could get improved as well! Like so: *snip*

02:34:514 (1) - Same as previously, 1/4 spacing at least.

Endnote: I found so many spacing issues that mentioning them here could make me starve. The 1/2 spread across 0.8 and 1.1 in the DS is really not optimal for Normal difficulties, especially ones that are considered the easiest difficulty of the set. Some nice ideas here but they feel unrefined. :arrow: the intention is to have increased spacing for increased gaps in the timeline, with certain subversions for special patterns for special bits of the music, like 02:31:663 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - and certain patterns in the kiais. if this is what you're pointing out, i'm not gonna fix them as it's a common design choice for low difficulty maps - if not, it's probably not intended. i've tried to fix all the occurrences of this i did not intend, but it's possible that some of them slipped under my radar.
good god, blankets

Arrival

Arrival wrote:

[-GN's Normal]

I'm making this mod as if I mod an EASY NORMAL. Diffspread purposes.
CHECK YOUR DISTANCE SNAP : There are some spacing problems. :arrow: this was explained at the end of kaguya's mod

00:35:874 (5,6) - Not a big deal, but this kind of stack on easy is a bit hard to read. Consider this maybe. (It's the same with 00:49:909 (2) - etc..) :arrow: i let these stay in the kiai, i think i fixed it everywhere else
00:51:488 (5) - Better curve please. :arrow: ok
00:56:225 (1) - Make it as a REAL POLYGON. (Compose -> Create Polygon circles) :arrow: aligned somewhat better
01:18:681 - Wow this break seems kinda long. Consider mapping when the vocals start again. :arrow: i'll leave that decision to hula
01:57:277 (2) - Avoid the multiple repetitions. Change to one reverse. :arrow: fixed in accordance with kaguya's mod
02:32:716 (1) - Remove your NC :arrow: the final pattern in the map deserves this NC in my eyes

Pretty nice diff overall. Well done.! :arrow: thank XD


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OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:1.17
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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Topic Starter
Hula
Thanks for the mods ;)

SPOILER

Arrival wrote:

Okay gogo

[General]

Isn't the mapset lacking an Easy ?? i h8 easies and their very existence so that's why :p

You really should put CUSTOM HITSOUNDS. I can give you some if you don't find. If you have a selection of hitsounds to offer, I will be more than happy to use them. Default hitsounds work though for me right now I think

I'm REALLY annoyed by the fact any of the std diffs finish here 02:37:277 - . You should finish at 02:59:734 - ! This would make more sense. well, in hindsight maybe, but my excuses are that I don't want to annoy the GDers by asking them to map more and it won't really add anything new to the map cos it's just a dumbed down version of what was previously going on in the song



[Pinky]

02:00:084 (1,4) - Stack them with 01:59:909 (3) - Right now no, since I like how this flows, but this is a p. good solution if other people suggest changes to it.
02:36:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This stream is a bit ugly, you could space it a bit more, or give it another shape :> Fixed by changing shape a bit and adding more space

Maybe a bit overmapped, but it's definetly not bad ! oh boy, you know it


Good mapset overall, I hope you'll get that ranked soon ! I'll star it as soon as I have the kd, for sure !
Good luck Hula ! Thanks a lot man <3
Nyxa
Mods

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

Alright as promised, here we go

[ Tesla's Insane]

01:44:821 (5,1) - Same as previously. Except this isn't mapped after the vocals but after the drums. Sometimes less is more.

02:35:874 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Yeah this is too much. Nerf this by a lot. No. I nerfed it by a little though.

Endnote: Too much 1/4 in this. Too much indeed. The Hard difficulty has no 1/4 whatsoever and right afterwards we jump to 1/4 kicksliders. Pretty big space in difficulty if you ask me, it shows in the star rating as well. Nearly two whole stars difficulty gap is too much and quite frankly unrankable. As a final note I suggest that you remove plenty of 1/4 from this. As said on IRC, the Hard's lack of 1/4 is an issue with the Hard, not with the Insane. Insanes have 1/4, they're difficult maps and are supposed to be challenging. This map did turn out harder than originally intended, yeah - that's why we changed the diffname from "Light Insane" to just "Insane". As an Insane, its difficulty is fine, and I don't think there's too much 1/4 at all. I wasn't happy with the spacing at the ending so I decreased it by a bit - but only just a bit. Low spaced circlestreams and 1/4 sliderstreams don't have too much of a difference in difficulty - if anything, my choice of sliderstreams here was to make things easier not harder. The only difference with the two types of streams is the origin of the difficulty - aim or tapping. In this case I opted for aim difficulty. Changed a quintuplet stream into a slider -> triple pattern though, for what it's worth.

Arrival wrote:

Okay gogo

[General]

Isn't the mapset lacking an Easy ?? It is.

You really should put CUSTOM HITSOUNDS. I can give you some if you don't find. Agreed.

I'm REALLY annoyed by the fact any of the std diffs finish here 02:37:277 - . You should finish at 02:59:734 - ! This would make more sense. The ending is fine as it is. Believe it or not, the std diffs finish at the start of the outro. Just because drums are still present doesn't mean that it's not the outro yet, and leaving the outro unmapped is a normal and common thing to do. That said, I wouldn't mind doing the additional mapping if Hula decided to map that section.

[Tesla's Insane]

01:18:681 - The break is imo too long. The break is a little long, yeah, but it's consistent throughout all diffs and I feel as though shortening it would detract from the map's quality rather than add to it. Maybe Hula should reconsider though if more people suggest.
01:49:558 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I really feel like this was put a bit randomly... Try making 2 squares or something with more sense. These are ladder jumps. I have to agree that a more shaped pattern would work better here - that's what I originally wanted to do, but this 00:30:962 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - pattern would have to be changed as well for that, since I was only trying to be consistent with Hula here.
02:25:699 (1) - Remove NC Yes.

Nice map ! Thanks

Also did some self-modding and stuff. If anyone's wondering, the reason I placed 02:20:962 (3,4,5) - where it is now is to blanket the stacked triple in-game.

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169,228,145523,1,8,0:0:0:0:
286,170,145699,2,0,P|325:144|367:143,1,87.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,294,146049,6,0,P|378:273|353:226,1,109.375,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
470,110,146400,2,0,L|435:213,1,109.375,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,223,146663,1,0,0:0:0:0:
445,232,146751,1,2,0:0:0:0:
394,75,146927,1,8,0:0:0:0:
230,56,147102,2,0,P|176:59|130:87,1,109.375,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
130,87,147365,1,0,0:0:0:0:
130,87,147453,6,0,P|105:135|105:189,1,109.375,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,261,147804,2,0,P|134:234|105:189,1,109.375,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,230,148155,1,2,0:0:0:0:
145,342,148330,1,8,0:0:0:0:
190,183,148506,1,2,0:0:0:0:
275,322,148681,1,2,0:0:0:0:
414,237,148856,6,0,P|455:201|468:149,1,109.375,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,1,149207,2,0,P|352:37|339:89,1,109.375,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,89,149470,1,0,0:0:0:0:
339,89,149558,1,2,0:0:0:0:
391,246,149734,1,8,0:0:0:0:
247,325,149909,1,2,0:0:0:0:
92,271,150084,5,0,0:0:0:0:
81,245,150172,1,0,0:0:0:0:
71,220,150260,2,0,P|57:166|81:116,1,109.375,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
249,176,150611,2,0,L|136:173,1,109.375,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
139,173,150874,1,0,0:0:0:0:
139,173,150962,1,2,0:0:0:0:
276,83,151137,1,8,0:0:0:0:
315,242,151313,1,2,0:0:0:0:
472,286,151488,5,2,0:0:0:0:
472,286,151576,1,0,0:0:0:0:
472,286,151663,2,0,L|482:173,1,109.375,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
375,51,152014,1,8,0:0:0:0:
491,167,152190,1,0,0:0:0:0:
327,159,152365,1,2,0:0:0:0:
458,59,152541,1,8,0:0:0:0:
293,44,152716,2,0,P|240:43|198:77,1,109.375,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,77,152979,1,0,0:0:0:0:
198,77,153067,6,0,L|135:173,1,109.375,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
77,259,153418,2,0,L|138:168,1,109.375,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
267,269,153769,1,2,0:0:0:0:
359,360,153944,1,8,0:0:0:0:
452,268,154120,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,175,154295,1,2,0:0:0:0:
255,253,154470,6,0,L|223:285,1,43.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
127,281,154646,2,0,L|157:250,1,43.75
158,152,154821,2,0,L|126:184,1,43.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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90,54,155172,1,2,0:0:0:0:
116,38,155260,1,0,0:0:0:0:
145,28,155348,1,2,0:0:0:0:
175,28,155435,1,0,0:0:0:0:
209,33,155523,5,2,0:0:0:0:
231,60,155611,1,0,0:0:0:0:
262,75,155699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
297,75,155786,1,0,0:0:0:0:
331,89,155874,6,0,L|362:141,1,43.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,205,156049,2,0,L|323:256,1,43.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
242,233,156225,2,0,L|210:182,1,43.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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353,210,156751,2,0,L|324:260,1,43.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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220,113,157102,2,0,L|250:56,1,43.75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,11,157277,5,12,0:0:0:0:
Rtyzen
Hey there! Here from the SG Modding Team with Standard mods! Sorry it took a while orz
[Kiai]
  1. You can try ending kiai 01:06:576 and 02:25:172 and restart it 01:07:453 and 02:26:049 respectively to emphasise the notes on 01:07:453 and 02:26:049
[-GN's Normal]
  1. For normals, distance snap should be consistent as much as possible. Keeping on DS on and constant at all times is encouraged. Going from like 1.0 to 1.1 is ok but sometimes it goes down to 0.8 or up to 1.3
  2. 00:37:979 (3,4) - 1.9 DS wayy too far
  3. 00:44:997 (1) - Is this meant to be a normal finish?
  4. 01:08:506 (1) - NC move to 01:07:453 (3)
  5. 02:27:102 (1) - ^
  6. 01:09:734 (3,1) - This blanket seems very forced :P
  7. 01:46:751 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This part at least should have claps IMO (01:47:102 + 01:47:628 + 01:48:506 + 01:49:032)
  8. 01:54:470 (5,6) - Even though it's not that important, the DS here is 0.6 when it doesn't need to be

[Ayu's Hard]
  1. 00:34:646 (3,2) - Why don't you blanket these 2? XD
  2. 01:06:576 (3) - You can NC this or move 01:06:049 (1) - 's NC to here. Looks better IMO
  3. 02:25:348 (3) - ^
  4. 01:12:014 (2,5) - stack?
  5. I got nothing else, it's a good diff! ~

[Tesla's Insane]
  1. 00:25:699 (4) - I think replacing this with just a circle would be better since there's no sound on 00:25:874
  2. 00:40:523 and 00:40:699 - Add circles? to be consistent with 00:34:821 (6,7,8,9,1)
  3. 00:46:137 and 00:46:313 - ^ (can make a 5-note stream)
  4. 00:47:453 (6,1) - Probably should change this to be consistent with the previous parts as well
  5. 00:55:962 (6,7,8) - Should delete IMO
  6. 00:59:383 (3) - Move to x:260 y:292 looks better
  7. 01:05:348 (4) - Ctrl-G?
  8. 01:09:558 (4,5) - Flow here is kinda bad cuz the slider is pointing upwards :/
  9. The first kiai uses significantly less 1/4 than the second kiai, should do something about that :P

[Pinky]
  1. 00:26:225 (6,1) - Flow here is quite bad especially since they are so close together in timing :/ What I suggest is you Ctrl-H Ctrl-J 00:26:225 (6) (or just Ctrl-> twice)
  2. 00:31:663 (5,6,7) - A proper triangle would look better
  3. 00:55:962 (2,3,4) - Should delete IMO
  4. 02:14:558 (2,3,4) - ^
  5. 01:04:997 (4) - Ctrl-G?
  6. 02:23:944 (4) - ^
  7. 01:15:874 (7) - Stack on the head on 2 to center it pls. And adjust 01:15:172 (3,4,5,6) - to be parallel again
  8. 02:37:277 (5) - NC

That's all from me, good luck with your map! :D
Mint
Hello Hula!

WARNING: Will contain nazi stuff and also modded a bit before you updated it, so you might see things you already fixed, sorry!

:idea: General


* Ask someone to cut your mp3.
* Sorry, I don't mod Taiko ;_;

Normal


* Check DS in AIMod.
* Uhmm... nothing I guess?

Ayu's Hard


* 00:27:804 (3) - Very nazi, but try making the curve a bit more loose so the flow is smoother with (1).
* 00:47:277 (3) - It would sound better if you moved this a 1/2 tick earlier imo, so you can follow the vocals. You could fill the empty space you've left with a 1/2 note.
* 01:12:716 (5) - Is it on purpose that you didn't stack it on (2)?
* 01:29:909 - I don't think you need this green line here. There are no notes and you alreadu have a green line adfter this one that does the job.
* 01:52:365 (1) - Just a very minor thing I noticed, but you have 'slider art here' and the slider after this one is just a simple plain slider, however at an identical part of the song (00:33:769 (1,2,3) - ), it's the other way around. You could make the rhythm of these two parts and the usage of slider art consistent if you want, but that's up to you, since it's not a big problem or anything o/
* 02:00:786 (1) - I'd reverse the curve of the slider here. The flow would be consistent with something you had at 00:42:190 (1,2) - and it just flows much better imo.
* 02:11:663 (4) - Move it upwards until it's above (3) for a smoother flow? You already have a flowbreaking-jump after this slider, so it would be nice if you kept the flow for now.
* 02:22:892 (4) - Something similar to what I said above.

Tesla's Insane


Hula

* 00:35:523 (2,4) - Try adding some curves to these sliders so you can have a much smoother flow with (3,5)
* 00:47:628 - I don't really think it's necessary for you to have a reverse slider here, since you are now ignoring the strong beat that's on the repeat. You aren't following the vocals anyway the slider after this, so I recommend you to follow the instruments here instead. This way the rhythm here is more smoothly done and you won't ignore the strong bass sound.
* 01:15:874 (7) - Add either a NC here, or delete Tess' one at the end of the map for consistent NCs (you might want to apply this to all the other diffs as well)

Tess

* 01:45:172 - If you are following the piano as well, you should consider adding a note here, if you're not feel free to ignore o/
* 01:57:628 (6) - Move this note (together with the stream and slider) a bit to the right so you have a perfect diamond shape?
* 02:06:927 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Nazi. But make this symmetrical? You are mostly using geometric shapes in this part, so would be nice if you used symmetry.
* 02:15:523 (4) - I'd move this more to the right for a better flow with (2), because that slider has a big curve.
* 02:24:646 (1) - Woah, this slowdown is really unexpected and hard to read, because you used the same slider shape ( 02:23:593 (2) - )as you had before, which can make it hard to read for some players. I recommend you to tweak this slider a bit so there's a slight curve in it. You many need to rework this pattern a bit to have it work out well.


Pinky


* 00:25:699 (4,1) - Is this intentional? If not, could you please stack them perfectly?
* 00:30:611 (7,1) - Watch out with this sudden spacing change. I recommend you to keep the DS from 1/4 rhythms in your map somewhat the same. Try to have a similar spacing as 00:25:348 (3,4) -
* 00:38:330 (2) - Move this a little bit to the right, so it's in the middle of (1,3) - the pattern would look neater imo.
* 00:59:383 (2,3) - (optional) Mirror the first slider? Looks nice this way, and it wont be too repetitive like you have now.
* 01:15:874 (1) - Put this in the centre (around 224/292) of (5,6) since you now have a nice symmetry pattern, so why not put this in the centre of those two?

It's even more awesome now. So have another star.

Every diff is really well done in this mapset, good job (pls map more ;_;)!

Good luck getting this mapset ranked :3
-GN
"GN" tag is redundant.

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9¨9.)):^99.
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Makoa
Your best person ever hula. im big fan.
Topic Starter
Hula
Some mod responses below.

SPOILER
Sorry for the super late replies guys

Rtyzen wrote:

Hey there! Here from the SG Modding Team with Standard mods! Sorry it took a while orz
[Kiai] - About the kiai, I think I might do something like that, gotta work out if it will be feasible on the other diffs.


  1. [notice][Tesla's Insane]
    1. 00:25:699 (4) - I think replacing this with just a circle would be better since there's no sound on 00:25:874 Keeping as a 1/2 slider for now since I'm attempting to kinda map the vocals here
    2. 00:40:523 and 00:40:699 - Add circles? to be consistent with 00:34:821 (6,7,8,9,1) Did it, I decided to spice it up a bit and stuck made it a slightly spaced quintuple!
    3. 00:46:137 and 00:46:313 - ^ (can make a 5-note stream) Nope, there i'm trying to map the AH-AH!
    4. 00:47:453 (6,1) - Probably should change this to be consistent with the previous parts as well Consistent with what? Cos that's the first time the those lyrics appear in the song.
    5. 00:55:962 (6,7,8) - Should delete IMO Same reason as Pinky
    6. 00:59:383 (3) - Move to x:260 y:292 looks better Moved it down a bit more than that since the spacing was too close otherwise.
    7. 01:05:348 (4) - Ctrl-G? Same reason as Pinky
    8. 01:09:558 (4,5) - Flow here is kinda bad cuz the slider is pointing upwards :/ I'l work something out for this, trying to make the slider unique to the violin sound.
    9. The first kiai uses significantly less 1/4 than the second kiai, should do something about that :P The idea I'm getting with this collab insane is that the map gets harder throughout, I kinda like this approach since I will usually make a map of very linear difficulty which can get boring on a song like this. Maybe I could spice up my section, who knows!

[Pinky]
  1. 00:26:225 (6,1) - Flow here is quite bad especially since they are so close together in timing :/ What I suggest is you Ctrl-H Ctrl-J 00:26:225 (6) (or just Ctrl-> twice) Yeah, idk what i was thinking there. I did a Ctrlh/j thing with is and now the middle point is on the y-x crossover thing
  2. 00:31:663 (5,6,7) - A proper triangle would look better This is an isoceles triangle and the idea is that then 6,7,1 are all on the same y axis. And an equilateral triangle wouldn't allow me to increase the spacing like I wanted to here.
  3. 00:55:962 (2,3,4) - Should delete IMO It feels empty without it there and i've tried to map it so the decrease in spacing and HS volume match that the 1/4 drums are also reduced at that point. Also i think it kinda adds a bit more OOMF to that first slider.
  4. 02:14:558 (2,3,4) - ^ ^
  5. 01:04:997 (4) - Ctrl-G? Possible, but here I'm trying to reduce the SV and calm it down a bit briefly.
  6. 02:23:944 (4) - ^ ^
  7. 01:15:874 (7) - Stack on the head on 2 to center it pls. And adjust 01:15:172 (3,4,5,6) - to be parallel again that jump sequence there is all one pattern, I've moved it onto the Y-axis so that it is symmetrical to that
  8. 02:37:277 (5) - NC
No need, it's the end of the map!

That's all from me, good luck with your map! :D
Thankyou very much for the mod




appleeaterx wrote:

Hello Hula! hi

WARNING: Will contain nazi stuff and also modded a bit before you updated it, so you might see things you already fixed, sorry!

:idea: General


* Ask someone to cut your mp3. For now i'm keeping the whole mp3 in, it's timed perfectly and it doesn't hurt being able to hear the whole shabang. Plus aimod doesn't care about it
* Sorry, I don't mod Taiko ;_; that's okay



Tesla's Insane


Hula
thanks for noticing whose part's whose 8'|
* 00:35:523 (2,4) - Try adding some curves to these sliders so you can have a much smoother flow with (3,5) I curved them a bit but i'm keeping the basic pattern/flow there since i'm going for that jumpy feel, yet not jumpy. you know?
* 00:47:628 - I don't really think it's necessary for you to have a reverse slider here, since you are now ignoring the strong beat that's on the repeat. You aren't following the vocals anyway the slider after this, so I recommend you to faollow the instruments here instead. This way the rhythm here is more smoothly done and you won't ignore the strong bass sound.
Here I'm trying to maybe map a few too many things at once. But i'm mapping the strings and the vocals start on the red tick. I currently think that the repeat slider on the downbeat actually works, but only in this instance because the song goes a bit funky. So I try to represent that with something non-standard. Since what your image shows is a standard way of mapping it, i think many of the nuances would be ignored here. If I get further displease about it i'll change it. So it's duly noted.
* 01:15:874 (7) - Add either a NC here, or delete Tess' one at the end of the map for consistent NCs (you might want to apply this to all the other diffs as well) Hm, I'll ask tess about dis. Also this circle is much different to Tess' bit cos Tess' one comes at the end of a streamy bit

Tess

* 01:45:172 - If you are following the piano as well, you should consider adding a note here, if you're not feel free to ignore o/
* 01:57:628 (6) - Move this note (together with the stream and slider) a bit to the right so you have a perfect diamond shape?
* 02:06:927 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Nazi. But make this symmetrical? You are mostly using geometric shapes in this part, so would be nice if you used symmetry.
* 02:15:523 (4) - I'd move this more to the right for a better flow with (2), because that slider has a big curve.
* 02:24:646 (1) - Woah, this slowdown is really unexpected and hard to read, because you used the same slider shape ( 02:23:593 (2) - )as you had before, which can make it hard to read for some players. I recommend you to tweak this slider a bit so there's a slight curve in it. You many need to rework this pattern a bit to have it work out well.


Pinky


* 00:25:699 (4,1) - Is this intentional? If not, could you please stack them perfectly? intentional, i know it's not the prettiest thing in the world. But it's just gonna have to be that way cos im' not increasing spacing and i'm not stacking, it ruins the flow
* 00:30:611 (7,1) - Watch out with this sudden spacing change. I recommend you to keep the DS from 1/4 rhythms in your map somewhat the same. Try to have a similar spacing as 00:25:348 (3,4) - I don't see the problem here, it looks much neater it being a bit further away and slider end stacked on (3) than a partial overlap, and it retains its readability. Plus the spacing would be higher cos now the song's getting all roiled up and ready to go XZXZXZXZXZXZXZXXZ
* 00:38:330 (2) - Move this a little bit to the right, so it's in the middle of (1,3) - the pattern would look neater imo. Tidied up that whole combo ;)
* 00:59:383 (2,3) - (optional) Mirror the first slider? Looks nice this way, and it wont be too repetitive like you have now.
rotated them 14 degree clockwise and mirrored them.
* 01:15:874 (1) - Put this in the centre (around 224/292) of (5,6) since you now have a nice symmetry pattern, so why not put this in the centre of those two?
fixed this pattern previous mod to be on the almighty y-axis

It's even more awesome now. So have another star.

Every diff is really well done in this mapset, good job (pls map more ;_;)!

Good luck getting this mapset ranked :3thankyou very much and thankyou for the mod!
Topic Starter
Hula

Makoa wrote:

Your best person ever hula. im big fan.
cheers dude?
Avena

Hula wrote:

Makoa wrote:

Your best person ever hula. im big fan.
cheers dude?
hula u have a fan appreciate it.
Topic Starter
Hula

Priti wrote:

hula u have a fan appreciate it.
:D
Makoa
:( where'd hula go?


I will aspire to fill your role one day.
Nyxa
I'll apply mods when Hula gets unbanned I guess.
Topic Starter
Hula

Makoa wrote:

:( where'd hula go?


I will aspire to fill your role one day.

Tess wrote:

I'll apply mods when Hula gets unbanned I guess.
do it!
Kurosanyan
Is this happening?
Aiceo
he's aliveeee
Topic Starter
Hula

Kurosanyan wrote:

Is this happening?
YOU BET IT IS BRUTHAH
Nwolf
EVERYTHING IS CHANGING



(why is it "kurosayan" instead of "kurosanyan" looooooool :°) )
Topic Starter
Hula

Nwolf wrote:

EVERYTHING IS CHANGING



(why is it "kurosayan" instead of "kurosanyan" looooooool :°) )
UWAT
Aiceo
get a clean mp3 what is this shit quality lol
Topic Starter
Hula

Aiceo wrote:

get a clean mp3 what is this shit quality lol
get one for me and kds
Aiceo
http://puu.sh/kAlDh/3dcad1b913.mp3

i cut the super long end since it doesn't fit the ranking criteria, and the quality should be better
Sieg
wb
RVMathew
Hi there. This is a short mod. Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow it if you want to.

Metadata
Source Info:
Song Name: This is the correct Title: Changing (feat. Paloma Faith)
Source/Tags: Add 'Life' since this song is actually part of the album 'Life' which will be released soon.

General
1) Background: Ranking criteria recommends that you need a 1366*768 image (16:9) or a 1024*768 (4:3). Here is the same background at 1366*768 resolution
2) Disable widescreen support because that is used only when a storyboard is present.
3) Unless you are going to map 3:22 of the song, I would recommend cutting it since at present, the last 40 seconds of the mp3 is unused.

Tesla's Insane
1) For naming you can remove the 'Collab' part because the difficulty name says 'Tesla's Insane' (Tess and Hula); it is already implied that it is a collaboration between you two so having the word 'Collab' is redundant. Tesla's Insane sounds cool.
2) 00:48:506 (3,4,5,6) - I like the pattern but it feels cramped with the way it is positioned right now. When playing the map though I did not have problems playing it.
3) 00:49:734 (2,3,4,5,6) - I was thinking that you can use a star pattern.
4) 02:24:646 (1,2,3,4,5) - This area looks cramped considering the previous patterns which were spaced out. This may have been done intentionally.

Pinky
1) 01:59:032 (3,4,1) - Note 4 seems to be 4 pixels higher than notes 3 and 1. Shift it down to: 68,356
2) Just a small thing 02:14:383 (4,1,2,3,4) - The change in distance snap looks weird but when playing it was fine. I do not think you have to change it because this is a personal issue and does not affect the beatmap that much.
I do like the various patterns and stuff.

Final Thoughts: I know that this was a very short mod but the map looks cool.

Good luck :) and welcome back Hula (I wish you were not banned from Disqus).
Topic Starter
Hula

RVMathew wrote:

Hi there. This is a short mod. Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow it if you want to. No, thanks, this was a nice surprise.

Metadata
Source Info:
Song Name: This is the correct Title: Changing (feat. Paloma Faith) I don't think it matters how you put the Feat. ft.?
Source/Tags: Add 'Life' since this song is actually part of the album 'Life' which will be released soon. OOH, OKAY! I didn't know about that news :p

General
1) Background: Ranking criteria recommends that you need a 1366*768 image (16:9) or a 1024*768 (4:3). Here is the same background at 1366*768 resolution Comfywolf is going to do a SB and cropped out the watermark of my original bg, so this is really cool that it's a full sized one, thanks :)
2) Disable widescreen support because that is used only when a storyboard is present. Gonna be a SB soon
3) Unless you are going to map 3:22 of the song, I would recommend cutting it since at present, the last 40 seconds of the mp3 is unused. I got the mp3 of the cut version, I'm gonna do that tomorrow i think, because the offset always changes a bit when reencoding

Tesla's Insane
1) For naming you can remove the 'Collab' part because the difficulty name says 'Tesla's Insane' (Tess and Hula); it is already implied that it is a collaboration between you two so having the word 'Collab' is redundant. Tesla's Insane sounds cool. I'll consider it, but I feel like Tesla's Insane could imply that it's made by a user called Tesla?
2) 00:48:506 (3,4,5,6) - I like the pattern but it feels cramped with the way it is positioned right now. When playing the map though I did not have problems playing it.I agree, I've changed it slightly and removed that overlapping, hopefully it will feel less cramped now.
3) 00:49:734 (2,3,4,5,6) - I was thinking that you can use a star pattern. I prefer the trapezium there since it allows variation in spacing, if this gets picked up on again I'll consider using a star like this.
4) 02:24:646 (1,2,3,4,5) - This area looks cramped considering the previous patterns which were spaced out. This may have been done intentionally. This is Tess' part of the map, so I'd have to ask her/look into how she mapped it more, it's pretty late right now and this was a nice surprise mod.

Pinky
1) 01:59:032 (3,4,1) - Note 4 seems to be 4 pixels higher than notes 3 and 1. Shift it down to: 68,356 Fixed
2) Just a small thing 02:14:383 (4,1,2,3,4) - The change in distance snap looks weird but when playing it was fine. I do not think you have to change it because this is a personal issue and does not affect the beatmap that much. with that spacing decrease, that's because the sound of the drums gets quieter, so I'm trying to replicate that with a more stacked spacing there, I think it's pretty innovative 8)
I do like the various patterns and stuff.

Final Thoughts: I know that this was a very short mod but the map looks cool. Very nice of you to mod it, I also found some ninja hitsounds which I took care of.

Good luck :) and welcome back Hula (I wish you were not banned from Disqus). Thanks (me too!)

Sieg wrote:

wb
Cheers!

Aiceo wrote:

http://puu.sh/kAlDh/3dcad1b913.mp3

i cut the super long end since it doesn't fit the ranking criteria, and the quality should be better
Doing that later, thanks SpoonLord
ComfyWolf
Woops Hula, forgot to make the taiko diffs not have the SB xD.

next time we talk I'll need to do that.
ComfyWolf
http://puu.sh/kKfXf/80b74310ab.osz <- Version with SB in all diffs except the taiko diffs. :) gl with the map!
Topic Starter
Hula

ComfyWolf wrote:

http://puu.sh/kKfXf/80b74310ab.osz <- Version with SB in all diffs except the taiko diffs. :) gl with the map!
Cheers, I'll update that in a bit.
Voli
Pinky

Pinky
00:29:558 (1) - nazi blanket pls

00:50:084 (6,7,1) - kinda weird straight line, move note 7 up so the jumps play better + more spacing (emphasis) on slider 1?

01:02:190 (3,4) - Make this a slider so that it is consistent with the rest of the OH OH OH sliders

01:11:663 (1,2) - woah suddenly huge spacing, reduce a bit for consistency, also idk if 01:11:663 (1) - is too far outside the grid, prolly not but just saying.

01:52:365 (1) - nazi blanket, move to x362 y99 (and move these too for the stack 01:53:418 (7,8,9,10,1) - )

01:57:979 (1,2) - i'd personally like more spacing on these

01:59:207 (4) - 01:59:032 (3,4) - 4,00 distance? halp

02:04:646 (7,8,1) - increase spacing?

Cool map. Little problems, mainly some spacing stuff.

Tesla's Collab Insane

Tesla's Collab Insane
00:48:856 (5) - move to x270 y170 looks c00l

00:51:663 (3,4,1) - beatpairing: theres a gap in spacing between 3 and 4 instead of 4 and 1, fix dis for emphasis on 1

00:55:874 (5,6,7,8) - I barely hear any sound in the music for a 4note stream here

01:05:348 (4) - ctrl g?

01:45:172 - weird because the third part of the vocals isnt mapped

01:52:365 (1) - uhh wouldnt it be better to blanket the note on top? looks like a failed blanket rn :p

02:03:593 (1) - woop nazi blanket

02:12:014 (1,2,3,4) - the part from here has whistles but the same part in the first kiai ( 00:53:418 (1,2,3,4) - ) doesn't. Don't know if intended or not, but perhaps add them for consistency?

02:24:997 (2,3,4,5,6) - why 0,2 spacing?


Voli's Insane

Voli's Insane
remap kds pls


p.s. ayu's hard looks very good to me and i'm not good at hards so my mod would likely be useless, same goes for normal

gotta rank
Topic Starter
Hula

Voli wrote:

Pinky

Pinky
00:29:558 (1) - nazi blanket pls Fixed

00:50:084 (6,7,1) - kinda weird straight line, move note 7 up so the jumps play better + more spacing (emphasis) on slider 1? I always wanted a straight line here going on, but i have increased the spacing from 7 to 1, hopefully enough?

01:02:190 (3,4) - Make this a slider so that it is consistent with the rest of the OH OH OH sliders In the first half of this kiai, on the first OH sliders, they all have 1.7x ds. What do you mean by consistent with the rest, so I've increased the DS slightly cos it wasn't that.

01:11:663 (1,2) - woah suddenly huge spacing, reduce a bit for consistency, also idk if 01:11:663 (1) - is too far outside the grid, prolly not but just saying.idk what the rules are if it doesn't come up on aimod. But you are right, this is the highest spacing in the kiai, pretty much for no reason, since the peak happens on the next bar. So, I've reduced the spacing to put it more in line. Hopefully I haven't now made a shit pattern.

01:52:365 (1) - nazi blanket, move to x362 y99 (and move these too for the stack 01:53:418 (7,8,9,10,1) - ) Don 't want to blanket the end of the quintuple. The quintuple blankets the 1 slider.

01:57:979 (1,2) - i'd personally like more spacing on these stacked on the previous 5 circle.

01:59:207 (4) - 01:59:032 (3,4) - 4,00 distance? halp Admittedly, too highly spaced haha. I've reduced it a fair bit, but it's less of an issue now that I fixed the previous 2 slider's DS problem. Also the symmetry of the pattern when playing imo makes it less of a jump than it does in editor.

02:04:646 (7,8,1) - increase spacing? can't see much reason to, If brought up again I'll change it

Cool map. Little problems, mainly some spacing stuff. Thx

Tesla's Collab Insane

Tesla's Collab Insane
00:48:856 (5) - move to x270 y170 looks c00l Moved it to somewhere around there, I just recently shifted around that pattern cos it felt cramped, this kinda messes with the spacing a bit, but I think it's worth it.

00:51:663 (3,4,1) - beatpairing: theres a gap in spacing between 3 and 4 instead of 4 and 1, fix dis for emphasis on 1 The spacing is all 1.2ds here? Doesn't need an emphasis like that here imo. I'd rather have the pattern.

00:55:874 (5,6,7,8) - I barely hear any sound in the music for a 4note stream here Oh shit. There's no sound on the blue tick. R u kiddin. So, this is overmapped. I'd rather keep it overmapped consistently between the insane and Pinky. This is because I feel like people would think that was a continuous stream into the chorus, and I'm really fond of the lowered spacing to represent the lowering in volume of the drum roll. If this becomes an actual issue, I will remap these parts.

01:05:348 (4) - ctrl g? no. Here we're lowering the spacing cos it's less intense part of the kiai. But I did notice a spacing error that shouldn't be there after these sliders, so thx :p

01:45:172 - weird because the third part of the vocals isnt mapped correct, fixed that

01:52:365 (1) - uhh wouldnt it be better to blanket the note on top? looks like a failed blanket rn :p Good point. Fixed.

02:03:593 (1) - woop nazi blanket Fixed

02:12:014 (1,2,3,4) - the part from here has whistles but the same part in the first kiai ( 00:53:418 (1,2,3,4) - ) doesn't. Don't know if intended or not, but perhaps add them for consistency? Tess's hitsounds are currently different in her part of the map. I believe this to be okay, if not, I will make them all how I would do them since she isn't about right now.

02:24:997 (2,3,4,5,6) - why 0,2 spacing? It's not? maybe editor being gay


Voli's Insane

Voli's Insane
remap kds pls fixed


p.s. ayu's hard looks very good to me and i'm not good at hards so my mod would likely be useless, same goes for normal Ayu's hard is bloody good

gotta rank
Thanks for the mod :)
RVMathew
Hi again. This is a mod for the rest of the difficulties. No Kudosu for this post.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow everything I say. (I say this whenever I make a mod as a disclaimer)


General:

1) You now have a storyboard and it does have pulsing lights, therefore you need an epilepsy warning.
2) There are some conflicting tags in some of the difficulties.
3) Make sure that either all of the difficulties have letterbox during breaks or all of them do not. Right now some do and some don't.

Storyboard:
1) 00:54:821 Here I was thinking that if you have the strobing white lights that go on and off every 1/4 beats, it gives a bigger buildup feeling when it transitions to the chorus. Applies to 02:13:418 as well.

-GN's Normal
1) 00:35:874 (5,6) - To make this cleaner, I was thinking about stacking note 5 and then changing the shape of slider 6 so it looks like this.
The reason is that stacking the note makes that part a lot neater, and by arranging the slider as in the picture, the sliderend flows into the next slider.

2) 00:41:488 (5,6,1,2) - The idea of curving slider 6 like you did is a nice idea, but somehow with the arrangement of the notes it looks a bit cramped. You can either flip it horizontally and make use of the space on the right or keep it as it is.

3) 01:01:137 (3,4) - Perhaps fix slider 3 like this?
4) 02:00:084 (5,6,1,2) - This area looks really cramped, so I would try and arrange the notes so it makes use of the playfield.

Overall rhythm is good but some of the placements feel cramped.

Ayu's Hard
1) 01:00:435 (1,2) - Move slider 2 a little bit down like so. However this is a really minor thing.
Everything else seems fine.

Voli's Insane
1) 00:49:909 (3,4,5,6) - I was thinking that you can try a diamond like pattern like this:
Other instances where it occurs: 02:08:506 (3,4,5,6)

2) 01:18:681 The hitsound volume at this point is 100%. Is that intentional?

Everything else seems fine as well.


Overall everything is on the right track. They storyboard looks cool. I assume that you have not changed the mp3 to the cut one but I assume that will be done soon.

Good luck and if you need anything else from me PM me on the osu website.

RVMathew
ComfyWolf

RVMathew wrote:

Storyboard:
1) 00:54:821 Here I was thinking that if you have the strobing white lights that go on and off every 1/4 beats, it gives a bigger buildup feeling when it transitions to the chorus. Applies to 02:13:418 as well.
To have strobing white lights would make things way to bright and would cover up the picture; the goal was to show the picture changing, not being covered up.

I also feel that it sticks out like a sore thumb when compared to the rest of the storyboard.
Topic Starter
Hula

RVMathew wrote:

Hi again. This is a mod for the rest of the difficulties. No Kudosu for this post.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow everything I say. (I say this whenever I make a mod as a disclaimer)


General:

1) You now have a storyboard and it does have pulsing lights, therefore you need an epilepsy warning. Fixed
2) There are some conflicting tags in some of the difficulties. Fixed
3) Make sure that either all of the difficulties have letterbox during breaks or all of them do not. Right now some do and some don't. Letterbox thing doesn't matter between standard and taikos iirc.


Ayu's Hard
1) 01:00:435 (1,2) - Move slider 2 a little bit down like so. However this is a really minor thing. I've moved it slightly to blanket a tiny bit better.
Everything else seems fine.


Overall everything is on the right track. They storyboard looks cool. I assume that you have not changed the mp3 to the cut one but I assume that will be done soon. In the process :p

Good luck and if you need anything else from me PM me on the osu website. Thank you, and thank you very much for the mods <3

RVMathew
Thanks again :)
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