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Fycho
Test played and gave some little suggestions on Determination diff :D
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2015-03-23 12:53 Garven: Hey, are you available for a test play
2015-03-23 12:53 Garven: ?
2015-03-23 12:54 Fycho: ok
2015-03-23 12:54 Garven: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/663876 Irus - Jue [Determination]]
2015-03-23 12:55 Garven: It does get kind of Garven-like in the end, just fair warning q:
2015-03-23 12:55 Fycho: downloading
2015-03-23 12:57 Fycho: slowly :q
2015-03-23 12:58 Garven: Haha, no rush
2015-03-23 12:58 Garven: I more want to show off the storyboard anyway ;)
2015-03-23 12:58 Fycho: which diff?
2015-03-23 12:58 Garven: Determination
2015-03-23 13:01 Fycho: aaaaa jumps are too hard to read when ar8
2015-03-23 13:01 Fycho: AR9 would be better
2015-03-23 13:01 Garven: Ah, so close haha
2015-03-23 13:02 Garven: Hm, I'll consider it.
2015-03-23 13:02 Garven: I tried it at 8.5 before and I wasn't feeling it
2015-03-23 13:04 Fycho: I am chaning to ar9 then try to play again
2015-03-23 13:04 Fycho: hah
2015-03-23 13:08 Garven: Looks like your fanclub has noticed you
2015-03-23 13:08 Fycho: seems better for me
2015-03-23 13:08 Garven: Hm, alright
2015-03-23 13:08 Garven: I'll try messing with it a bit
2015-03-23 13:09 Garven: I really don't want to go full-on AR9, but it might go that route hehe
2015-03-23 13:09 Garven: Thanks for testing it out :)
2015-03-23 13:09 Garven: Was it fun at least?
2015-03-23 13:09 Garven: I haven't mapped in a long time, so I'm a bit rusty q:
2015-03-23 13:09 Fycho: 00:57:056 (8,9,10) - space is hard to read lol, the anit-jump
2015-03-23 13:10 Fycho: why I heard nyanpasu at the last lol
2015-03-23 13:10 Garven: Haha, a joke applause.wav
2015-03-23 13:10 Fycho: Like it
2015-03-23 13:10 Garven: Think something like this would read better? http://puu.sh/gLUuw/065ba7da6e.jpg
2015-03-23 13:12 Fycho: maybe make the space larger, like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2922760
2015-03-23 13:12 Fycho: 1.30x
2015-03-23 13:12 Garven: Bleh, I didn't want distance snapping though hehe
2015-03-23 13:12 Fycho: or you can stack them fully
2015-03-23 13:13 Fycho: with 0x spacing
2015-03-23 13:13 Garven: They used to be like this: http://puu.sh/gLUDb/e7f441e4b8.jpg
2015-03-23 13:13 Garven: but people weren't reading that correctly either
2015-03-23 13:14 Garven: I guess I can do manual stacking http://puu.sh/gLUEM/021b30bf71.jpg
2015-03-23 13:14 Fycho: imo, full stack is easier to read than anti-jump
2015-03-23 13:14 Fycho: yea manual stack works well too
2015-03-23 13:16 Fycho: LOLLLLLLL the title is 觉"Jue", it's a chinese not japanese
2015-03-23 13:16 Garven: I know
2015-03-23 13:16 Garven: Took me forever to figure it out ;_;
2015-03-23 13:17 Fycho: I just noticed this :/
2015-03-23 13:17 Fycho: 01:26:517 (3,4,5) - 300bmp streams
2015-03-23 13:18 Fycho: 306bpm streams would be very hard to play for players(only a few can play it
2015-03-23 13:18 Garven: Haha, I was asking around because I couldn't find it in any jp dictionary >_>
2015-03-23 13:20 Fycho: Japanese is 覚 iirc
2015-03-23 13:23 Garven: May as well be 9, but 9 feels a bit too fast. I dunno.
2015-03-23 13:23 Garven: Uh oh, Chinese internet strikes?
2015-03-23 13:23 Fycho: 02:01:272 (4) - 02:01:566 (5) - suggest NC at both for readability
2015-03-23 13:23 Fycho: yes disconnected orz
2015-03-23 13:24 Garven: I think the increased AR helps with that
2015-03-23 13:24 Fycho: yea
2015-03-23 13:24 Garven: I'd like to avoid unnecessary new combos
2015-03-23 13:24 Garven: Since it'd break my new combo flow
2015-03-23 13:25 Garven: 02:03:526 (1) - Are the combo colors hard to see at this part?
2015-03-23 13:25 Garven: Or are they okay?
2015-03-23 13:25 Fycho: okay imo
2015-03-23 13:26 Garven: Alright
2015-03-23 13:26 Fycho: patterns like this 02:13:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2015-03-23 13:26 Fycho: if there is no nc, it's hard to read
2015-03-23 13:26 Fycho: really
2015-03-23 13:26 Fycho: cuz the jumps are big, and the sudden reduced space
2015-03-23 13:28 Garven: Where would be best? On the 4?
2015-03-23 13:28 Fycho: let me take a test:p
2015-03-23 13:28 Garven: Haha okay
2015-03-23 13:31 Fycho: yes 4 works fine
2015-03-23 13:31 Garven: Alright
2015-03-23 13:32 Garven: 02:16:664 (3,4) - I also changed these a little bit. They go to the left now instead of the right. http://puu.sh/gLVxA/8ab847c992.jpg
2015-03-23 13:32 Fycho: yes it's better
2015-03-23 13:33 Fycho: that's all I want to point I guess
2015-03-23 13:33 Fycho: just something about readability
2015-03-23 13:33 Garven: Thank you so much
2015-03-23 13:33 Fycho: haha np
2015-03-23 13:33 Fycho: anytime
2015-03-23 13:33 Garven: Is it fun for you?
2015-03-23 13:34 Fycho: yea, the rhythm is good
2015-03-23 13:34 Garven: Or a bit too weird?
2015-03-23 13:34 Fycho: and I enjoy it
2015-03-23 13:34 Garven: Hm alright cool
2015-03-23 13:34 Garven: I'm not used to mapping this style of song, so it's a little strange for me hehe
2015-03-23 13:34 Garven: Trying to get as much feedback as I can
2015-03-23 13:34 Fycho: about thay 306bpm streams, I suggest you take a consideration
2015-03-23 13:34 Fycho: that*
2015-03-23 13:35 Garven: You're the only one that has mentioned it so far, but I'll ask about them on later test plays
2015-03-23 13:35 Fycho: yea, more test play is necessary imo
2015-03-23 13:35 Garven: I'm not sure what I'll do without the streams there though... they really keep the player clicking. A slider would take a lot away from that experience.
2015-03-23 13:36 Fycho: not a bad idea to use 1/8 sliders to replace them
2015-03-23 13:36 Fycho: tho
2015-03-23 13:38 Garven: Oh crap, I need to sleep. I'll finish the fixes later, hehe
2015-03-23 13:38 Garven: Take care, Fycho o/
Good luck o/
Oracle
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21:06 *Garven is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/665110 Irus - Jue]
21:07 Oracle: do i need to update
21:07 Garven: I just updated
21:07 Oracle: sounds like
21:07 Oracle: mapped in 306 or something
21:10 Garven: Much easier hehe
21:10 Oracle: wow
21:13 Garven: So what do you think about the 1/8 streams? Too much? Or are they okay with how short they are?
21:13 Oracle: they're okay to FC
21:13 Oracle: but painful acc-wise
21:13 Oracle: your choice! haha
21:13 Garven: Haha
21:13 Garven: I have the OD really low though
21:13 Oracle: 01:48:428 (4,5) - coule use ctrl+G on this
21:13 Garven: so hopefully that helps
21:13 Oracle: flows more naturally to me
21:14 Garven: Let me try
21:14 Garven: Kinda weird at first, but I'm used to it the other way haha
21:14 Garven: One more time
21:15 Oracle: 02:05:977 (4,5,6,7,1) - also this part was quite hard to catch
21:15 Oracle: might be something wrong with the flow or the placement of 02:06:272 (6) -
21:16 Garven: Alright, I'll do the ctrl + g on the first one
21:16 Garven: Let's see what's up with 2:05 then
21:17 Oracle: since i never catch them
21:17 Oracle: lol
21:17 Garven: Hm, where would you suggest?
21:17 Garven: I have it placed right where I naturally flow to
21:17 Oracle: might want to put 02:06:272 (6) - upper
21:17 Garven: Since you have th eback and forth established with 2-5
21:18 Oracle: let's say 312,224
21:18 Oracle: could live with that
21:18 Oracle: dunno how to explain
21:19 Oracle: but i could handle this part much better with 312,224
21:19 Oracle: ahh
21:19 Oracle: 02:06:272 (6,7,1) -
21:19 Oracle: triangle
21:19 Garven: It makes the spacing more even
21:20 Oracle: i guess i suggested something useful!
21:20 Garven: Haha, I'm trying it out
21:20 Garven: If I do that
21:21 Garven: 02:10:389 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this flow doesn't fit right
21:21 Garven: so I need to edit this one too hehe
21:21 Garven: Because it's a strong zigzag patter instead of the triangle one
21:21 Oracle: wait that was like 5 seconds ago
21:21 Garven: and it's inconsistent
21:21 Oracle: how could they affect each other
21:21 Garven: They have the same flow
21:22 Garven: mmm
21:22 Oracle: ahh this part is much easier to catch 02:10:389 -
21:23 Oracle: i don't care much about consistency lol
21:23 Garven: I do q:
21:23 Oracle: was mainly focusing on playability since i was testing it
21:23 Garven: It's how I design my maps
21:23 Garven: Yeah, I understand
21:23 Garven: And I do like the triangle flow, so I want to apply it to the other pattern that mimics the old one
21:24 Oracle: 02:10:977 (6,7,1) - this one feels awesome to me
21:24 Garven: Aaah curse my stupid standards
21:25 Garven: I'll mess with it later I guess
21:25 Oracle: www
21:25 Garven: I've been trying to work on the Normal so I'm still in simple map mode :U
21:25 *Garven hates mapping Normals
21:25 Garven: They are my bane :(
21:25 Oracle: on another note, 02:20:095 (4,5,6) - pattern like this in high spacing is actually hard
21:26 Oracle: the acceleration of the cursor zzzzz
21:26 Garven: Oh I know. It's the final pattern of the finale
21:26 Garven: It's supposed to be hard ;)
21:26 Oracle: if that's what you're going for then keep it lol
21:26 Garven: The map gets harder and harder and harder until 02:20:781 (1) -
21:26 Oracle: the map gets more and more Garven until 02:20:781 (1) -
21:27 *Garven screenshot
21:27 Oracle: haha
21:27 Oracle: there's also one pattern stands out to be very hard compared to other stuffs near it
21:27 Oracle: but i can't recall where is it
21:27 Oracle: need to play it again
21:32 Oracle: 02:02:644 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - i guess it was this part
21:33 Garven: Well, it's the start of the hardest section. It fits with the rest of the kiai me thinks
21:34 Garven: Any particular part of it that feels too difficult?
21:34 Oracle: 02:02:840 (3,4,5,6,7) -
21:34 Oracle: i can hardly catch 5 after finishing 02:02:840 (3,4) -
21:34 Oracle: i guess it's about position but not spacing lol
21:35 Garven: I used to have it more towards the center bottom, but it didn't feel right
21:35 Garven: Especially with the spaced stream moving upward
21:36 Garven: I wanted some right-ward momentum still with the jump so that moving to the spaced stream isn't too awkward
21:36 Oracle: i guess what you need is a smoother transition
21:37 Oracle: http://puu.sh/gN5Rj/0f3bc3f041.jpg
21:37 Oracle: like this?
21:37 Garven: I'd need to angle 02:01:958 (1,2) - the same way
21:38 Oracle: 02:01:958 (1,2,3,4) - want them to be parallel?
21:38 Garven: I also want backwards movement from 2 -> 3
21:38 Garven: because this pattern establishes the back and forth movement for the rest of the kiai
21:38 Garven: Yeah, they need to be parallel
21:38 Garven: I think there's only one that I broke the parallel pattern because it just played really poorly
21:39 Garven: Hm, it feels too close when things are angled down like that
21:40 Oracle: have no idea why i can never hit 02:03:330 (7) -
21:40 Oracle: i ALWAYS miss this one
21:40 Oracle: like i could do 02:03:134 (5,6) - perfectly
21:41 Garven: I'm not sure what to tell ya there q:
21:41 Oracle: maybe i'm not pro enough for that note :D
21:42 Garven: Pff whatever
21:42 Garven: It's your 1x miss like in remote control
21:42 Oracle: so yeah, that would be all i could tell from testing
21:43 Garven: Alright. Thanks a ton. It helped a lot :)
21:43 Garven: If you want a kudosu, feel free to post in the thread
21:43 Oracle: will do!
21:44 Oracle: also the background feels like
21:44 Oracle: "SUPER EXTRA HARD BOSS MAP TAKE CARE"
21:44 Garven: Hahaha
21:45 Garven: I wanted to find a kitsune mask in the same pose, but I couldn't find any that looked good
21:45 Garven: so I settled for the hannya mask instead
21:45 Oracle: you know it reminds me of
21:45 Oracle: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/89049
21:46 Oracle: rofl
21:46 Garven: Hah
21:46 Garven: My storyboard is much cooler though ;)
21:46 Oracle: yeah!
21:47 Oracle: 01:01:075 (2,3) - also make these 2 further apart
21:47 Oracle: so they have the same visual spacing as 01:00:781 (1,3) -
21:47 Oracle: that way they feel more symmetrical
21:48 Garven: Easy enough
21:48 Garven: 01:29:017 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - how about these
21:48 Garven: Are they okay all messy like this or should I try to make them pretty?
21:49 Oracle: i recognize them as common slider stream
21:49 Oracle: nothing weird from my side ;D
21:49 Garven: Well, more presentation rather than play
21:49 Garven: Kind of like the symmetry thing earlier
21:49 Oracle: also messy one feels more intense
21:50 Oracle: so you should keep them!
21:50 Garven: Alright
21:50 Garven: I had them pretty at first but it didn't feel right
21:50 Garven: I think your explanation is on the spot
21:50 Oracle: sometimes you need some chaotic patterns lol
gl!
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Kite
sexy
Bluekrait
Hi Garven,

Love the storyboard, good work! I know your mapset is a bit top-heavy (difficulty wise), but the song and storyboard motivated me enough to make a diff...

http://puu.sh/j5PtB/b846f55850.osz Perserverance (Bluekrait's Insane) -I'll keep this link updated
last updated 6/9/2015

New .osu
osu file format v14

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Title:Jue
TitleUnicode:觉
Artist:Irus
ArtistUnicode:Irus
Creator:Garven
Version:Perseverance (Bluekrait's Insane)
Source:東方心綺楼 ~ Hopeless Masquerade
Tags:TOHO SPEED 02 LiLA'c Records Boushitsu no Emotion 亡失のエモーション 秦心 hata no kokoro Ami Hollow Wings Lust val0108
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Changes
00:42:742 (3,4,5) - Decreased spacing
00:58:723 (1,2,3,4) - Decreased stream spacing
01:00:193 (1,2,3) - Decreased jump spacing
01:02:448 (1) - Decreased SV and put less red ticks to make slider rankable
01:03:919 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Decreased spacing to alleviate difficulty spike
01:11:272 (1,2,3,4) - Decreased stream spacing
01:16:566 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:19:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:22:840 (1,2,3,4) - 01:24:408 (1,2,3,4) - Ctrl H to eliminate repetitiveness
01:39:115 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Remapped (replaced 1/8 sliders with 1/4 and improved patterns)
01:41:566 (1) - Moved closer to 01:41:664 (2)
01:42:154 (4,5,6) - Moved closer to each other and changed slider pattern
01:49:997 (5,7,1,2,3,2) - Less overlap now
01:50:585 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Less overlap now
01:54:115 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Decreased combo spacing
02:01:468 (5,6) - Ctrl G
02:07:644 (6,7,8) - Replaced 1/8 sliders with 1/4 and changed pattern
02:13:036 (1) - Reduced number of reverses (Auto wasn't able to 100%)
02:13:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Reoriented jump pattern to decrease combo spacing
02:19:997 (4,5,6,7) - Replaced 1/8 sliders with 1/4 and changed pattern
02:20:781 (1) - Changed slider shape to make transition from previous combo easier
02:22:742 (2) - Moved slider end closer to next slider start
02:23:919 (1) - Moved slider end closer to next note so it blankets itself better
02:24:605 (3) - Blankets 02:23:919 (1) better and reverse arrow now points to next note
6/9/2015 changes
00:42:742 (3,4,5) - Remapped to decrease spacing
02:20:781 (1) - Remapped for better flow
It probably won't fit because of the spread, so I'm just posting so others can give it a try ;_;
Doing my best to make it fit!
Good luck with your map! :)
Irreversible
-GN
HW's EX:
01:43:428 (3) - 01:55:977 (3) - NC these two. follow your own patterns.

other than that, good diff and nice set! enjoyed playing it.
Skystar
Did testplay it and pretty sure both spots are enough readable without a NC.

Besides it'd ruin the combo pattern HW has there, so no change.
Axey
when to rank :D mr.garven?
Topic Starter
Garven
Im having trouble submitting updates. Once I figure that out, Ill get this rolling, Ms. Huang.
Mao
(「・ω・)「
BrosephStalin
You were all like "I need mods" in memehelp so here I am.

Jovial

01:16:566 (1) - Not sure about starting on the 1/4 for an easy, I feel like starting on the red tick after would be better. Then again, I'm terrible at making/modding easies so yeah, that's a thing.
01:48:036 (2) - I'd normally make an offhand remark about slider shapes, but I'm too lazy so I'll write this instead.
02:22:350 (2) - I mean a new combo here would be nice, but that's really just my opinion and you know there's like this big gap between the notes but I'm not really an expert here just giving out my two cents.


Placid

00:59:311 (3) - Same thing as in the easy, I try to stay away from 1/4, but it's all up to personal prefrence.
01:45:095 (6,7) - Sounds a bit weird because you skip over the white tick (Downbeat? I dunno lingo, I just play circle clicking games) and surround it with like slider ends and slider beginnings and such 1/4 apart wow I need sleep but you need mods so here I am <3


Ambivalent

01:43:919 (4,5) - Maybe these drugs are starting to kick in, but I felt like (5) was a bit too close to (4) even though it's spaced like exactly the same as (3, 4) in terms of DS.
02:22:154 (2) - Same as in normal, big gap, new combo?


Pensive (Hi Irre)

01:47:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Nothing wrong here, I just felt like you could've done some cool stuff with the spacing. Totally readable/playable though.
Other than that cool diff I guess.


Vigilance

Not much to say here, other than that the intro was a bit boring with all the copy and paste.
You certainly made up for it after though. This was a blast to play, even with the smaller cs (Pls don't hurt me)


Desire (Sexy name)

Damn this map is so visually appealing to the eyes I just wanna keep it and call it my own.
Aside from that, towards the end, it felt like you were using the same movement the whole time. What I mean is like you would always start out with an oval-ish flow: See 01:49:507 (2,3) - 01:51:075 (2,3) - 01:52:644 (2,3) - 01:54:213 (2,3) - 01:57:350 (2,3) - etc. Not that it's bad, but they all started to feel the same after a while (even though they aren't!). Maybe mix it up a little bit in these areas?


Determination

All I have to say is that again like in 0108's diff, the intro was a bit hampered by the copypasta (Although I understand where it's coming from because the song is kinda copypasta-esque itself) Fun doubles though!


Fury (Dem 6 sters)

00:56:271 (2,3) - maybe space this out a bit more? The drugs are in full effect and I'm probably just seeing things, but every time I played this I hit (3) way too early.
00:59:017 (8) - This was hard to see under the slider end, but like everyone is using "pro" skins that are all transparent and don't even have slider ends anyways so like I'm probably the only person affected by this one anyways.

Okay, so I understand the whole copy paste thing to maintain consistency throughout the diffs, but at least try to make it less obvious or move the sliders/circles a couple of pixels so I'm not playing the same exact pattern 4 times in a row.

01:55:781 (2,3) - Again I'm still tripping balls right now, but maybe space out (3) a bit more so it doesn't look like one continuous stream of 1/4 notes?

Well, that's all I really have to say about this mapset as is I guess. Sorry for the short mod and bad formatting, but I really need to go to sleep now ;-;
Topic Starter
Garven

BrosephStalin wrote:

You were all like "I need mods" in memehelp so here I am. (「・ω・)「

Jovial

01:16:566 (1) - Not sure about starting on the 1/4 for an easy, I feel like starting on the red tick after would be better. Then again, I'm terrible at making/modding easies so yeah, that's a thing. Considering the huge amount of leniency along with the lack of other hit objects to confuse these ones, I think it'll be okay.
01:48:036 (2) - I'd normally make an offhand remark about slider shapes, but I'm too lazy so I'll write this instead. I never was happy with these. I'll see if I can simplify them.
02:22:350 (2) - I mean a new combo here would be nice, but that's really just my opinion and you know there's like this big gap between the notes but I'm not really an expert here just giving out my two cents. Actually there should be a new combo at 02:23:919 (1) - Whoops.

Placid

00:59:311 (3) - Same thing as in the easy, I try to stay away from 1/4, but it's all up to personal prefrence. This one was tricky to map. It felt wrong to have it start on a white tick, so I opted to give it a ton of space so that the player has plenty of time to be ready for the approach circle.
01:45:095 (6,7) - Sounds a bit weird because you skip over the white tick (Downbeat? I dunno lingo, I just play circle clicking games) and surround it with like slider ends and slider beginnings and such 1/4 apart wow I need sleep but you need mods so here I am <3 I really don't want to use actual 1/4 rhythms in a Normal if I can avoid it, but I'm open to suggestions.

Ambivalent

01:43:919 (4,5) - Maybe these drugs are starting to kick in, but I felt like (5) was a bit too close to (4) even though it's spaced like exactly the same as (3, 4) in terms of DS. I'm not really sure how to fix this since I'm not really feeling it. Maybe it's because the flow is a bit weird? I'll figure something out.
02:22:154 (2) - Same as in normal, big gap, new combo? Nah.
Determination

All I have to say is that again like in 0108's diff, the intro was a bit hampered by the copypasta (Although I understand where it's coming from because the song is kinda copypasta-esque itself) Fun doubles though! Sank ya~

Well, that's all I really have to say about this mapset as is I guess. Sorry for the short mod and bad formatting, but I really need to go to sleep now ;-;
'sall good. Thanks for checking it!
Irreversible
http://puu.sh/jPRhF/a51e701059.txt

Fixed, hell this stacking ruins all of my patterns.
Shohei Ohtani
one day I'll get as much kds as Garven and become #1 kudosu earner.

man i sure do love having difficulties man

Overall:
01:02:448 - Like I appreciate what you're going for but you're still not really having a sort of colorful background to match these bubblegum-ass shapes, so it just looks out of place. You have 4 more options for combocolors, and it might be a good idea to utilize that to make this effect more effective.

The hardest diff:
00:52:154 (2,3,4,5) - So it's kind of weird how im supposed to be following a really calm sort of music effect and the first thing that happens is that I'm doing a huge backwards jump. That's no good.
00:55:193 (2,3,4) - I guess I can hear the thing you're following but honestly if I have to listen that close to hear what a map is doing then it's not worth mapping.
01:01:958 (7) - whistle?
01:07:056 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This could be such a cool brushing effect but the 3rd one needs to be CTRL +G'd like I know what youre going for but it plays terribly because there's no reason to have a break in calm flow at that point.
01:11:370 (1) - clap?
01:14:899 - you sly ass motherfucker like the weirdest thing is that it kind of works actually.
01:38:036 (1,2,3) - multiple claps in a row never sound good. Even irl. I just tried it. Don't do it.
01:39:114 (4,5) - It's like your smothering your first child for sleeping with your wife.
01:44:213 (7) - Now you're smothering the second child. Don't do that.
01:55:488 (2) - Would prefer this to be part of a triangle rather than a jerky jump.
01:56:860 (1,2,3) - Like I guess I can't say anything because I don't actually play the game but like I'm 95% certain this jump is a little large.
02:01:958 - http://puu.sh/k0ZUS/c4e3e164fd.jpg . Like aaaa. I'm a huge advocate for high SVs but at this point it doesn't really work since it just makes the map look outdated in a negative way, and you often times run out of space to make relevant sliders so there's lots of icky overlapping
02:20:781 - Refer to DiamondCrash for how to handle this section. It's weird slowing down the SV here, especially if the drums really do nothing different.
02:27:056 (1) - nice hitsound bro. But honestly I'd just make this a storyboarded sound (Although I don't know if that's still rankable so uhhhhh. But if it is, do that instead.)

Expert:
I'm always a pain in the ass about circle sizes gradually decreasing (or, the number increasing, I guess), so this bugs me that it's not the hardest diff but has the smallest circles.
01:16:468 - actually take that back Hollow Wings this is a better way of handling that.
thanks for mapping like Garven.

val:
01:50:389 (5) - With all of the jumps not being too large, this is REALLY out of place, especially since there isnt' a super strong reason why it should be like this.
01:56:860 (6) - ^. If it was more jumpy for the rest of the map, I wouldn't find it weird, but because the rest of the map has been pretty solid, this stands out.
02:26:272 (3,4,5,6) - the hitsounding here is really bland since it isn't really doing anything to benefit the map, even though I could imagine this becoming a really good build-up to the laste note. Pls make me happy

Irre:
dont' fuck this up irre
01:13:428 - but why. Like I guess you're resetting the pattern or something because you've worked yourself in a corner but you can just avoid that by not mapping yourself into a corner.
01:23:330 - It'll be worth your time to make these BRR sliders as well since you've already been doing it and the jump created isn't too bad.
01:29:017 (1) - i guess since you're on the QAT in a QAT mapset you'd know if this is rankable or not but like jesus christ man i told you not be irreversible but you were irreversible like aaa
01:59:997 (9) - this stack pls : )

Easy:
I feel like the spread is WAY too large between easy and normal. While you have normal players tapping blue tick beats, you're making easy players do long sliders. There are some parts where the spread is fine, but others where I feel a diff in between is needed.

Yay. It's actually a good map when it wants to be. My biggest issue is with Hollow Wings trying way too hard to be Hollow Wings instead of mapping a difficult map relevant to the song.
Okoratu
thanks for the mod BrosephStalin

I completely agree and tried to rearrange some patterns here and there to make it feel less vertical and more horizontal in some places because the main issue you mentioned is that the patterns start to feel the same after a bit, which is because all of them utilised vertical movement. So I took a few patterns and mixed in more horizontal movement to compensate and i think the outcome is better so there it is :

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additionally i took off 1 repeat from 01:25:683 (3) - 01:26:468 (4) - 01:27:252 (4) - 01:28:036 (4) - 01:28:821 (4) - because idk what i was thinking when placing them but having an 1/4 hitwindow for the next note is waaaay more comfortable in this case

The combocolor thing is up to garven, so if you decide to do that with more combocolors, I'll adjust my bubblegums as well
Topic Starter
Garven

Reditum wrote:

one day I'll get as much kds as Garven and become #1 kudosu earner. I'm only #3 though :(

man i sure do love having difficulties man

Overall:
01:02:448 - Like I appreciate what you're going for but you're still not really having a sort of colorful background to match these bubblegum-ass shapes, so it just looks out of place. You have 4 more options for combocolors, and it might be a good idea to utilize that to make this effect more effective. Tried a new color for the light pink.

Expert:
I'm always a pain in the ass about circle sizes gradually decreasing (or, the number increasing, I guess), so this bugs me that it's not the hardest diff but has the smallest circles. Eh, it progresses amongst my own difficulties
01:16:468 - actually take that back Hollow Wings this is a better way of handling that.
thanks for mapping like Garven.

Easy:
I feel like the spread is WAY too large between easy and normal. While you have normal players tapping blue tick beats, you're making easy players do long sliders. There are some parts where the spread is fine, but others where I feel a diff in between is needed.
Each map amps up as it goes along - I tired to balance it in that the difficulty at the end of one would be about where the next difficulty would start and it continues along (excluding guest difficulties and Hard -> Expert as I didn't map an Insane) With that in mind, I find the spread fair, but if there are certain points in which you're steadfast against, we can discuss it.

Yay. It's actually a good map when it wants to be. My biggest issue is with Hollow Wings trying way too hard to be Hollow Wings instead of mapping a difficult map relevant to the song.
Thanks!

Updates:
I added Ami's difficulty and updated tags to all maps, updated combo colors to all maps except for Okoratu's as his has one section that had a color progression thing going on, so I'll let him figure that out if he wants to update the colors. Updated a long slider in Easy to not wiggle as much. Still ugly though.
Mwallx
Actually I was wondering why song from japanese game would be with chinese title....
Okoratu
ye i think i figured sth out
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the forum description shows outdated diffnames btw
Topic Starter
Garven

Mwalls Ho wrote:

Actually I was wondering why song from japanese game would be with chinese title....
It took me a while to figure it out, haha. I confirmed with Atrue and KwaN about the title, so there you go.

Updated oko's map. Thanks!
Zare
if youre going to go through with this, please do something about the notelocking in HW's diff
its not even remotely playable for me because im doomed to miss about EVERYTHING the instance i make a mistake
Topic Starter
Garven
Can you please clarify where these points are? Basically every stream or what?
Zare
pretty much all of the 1/4 jumps are insanely hard to hit because you p much notelock the entire pattern by missing a single circle
Skystar
BrosephStalin

BrosephStalin wrote:

Fury (Dem 6 sters)

00:56:271 (2,3) - maybe space this out a bit more? The drugs are in full effect and I'm probably just seeing things, but every time I played this I hit (3) way too early. I guess HW wants to stack it on 00:55:683 (5) - , so yeah.
00:59:017 (8) - This was hard to see under the slider end, but like everyone is using "pro" skins that are all transparent and don't even have slider ends anyways so like I'm probably the only person affected by this one anyways. If you listened to this more closely you'd notice 00:59:017 (8) - has a same tone as 00:58:428 (5) - 's tail, I guess that's why she stacked the note under the tail.

Okay, so I understand the whole copy paste thing to maintain consistency throughout the diffs, but at least try to make it less obvious or move the sliders/circles a couple of pixels so I'm not playing the same exact pattern 4 times in a row.

01:55:781 (2,3) - Again I'm still tripping balls right now, but maybe space out (3) a bit more so it doesn't look like one continuous stream of 1/4 notes? The whole kiai parts work in this way, I have no idea why you pointed this out specifically.

Well, that's all I really have to say about this mapset as is I guess. Sorry for the short mod and bad formatting, but I really need to go to sleep now ;-;
Reditum

Reditum wrote:

The hardest diff:
00:52:154 (2,3,4,5) - So it's kind of weird how im supposed to be following a really calm sort of music effect and the first thing that happens is that I'm doing a huge backwards jump. That's no good. Don't forget its just a 153bpm song, 1/2 notes at this rate aren't even "huge jumps" at all.
00:55:193 (2,3,4) - I guess I can hear the thing you're following but honestly if I have to listen that close to hear what a map is doing then it's not worth mapping. gh what, every layer of a song is worth mapping, as long as the mapper wants to.
01:01:958 (7) - whistle? According to how HW hitsounded the part here, no.
01:07:056 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This could be such a cool brushing effect but the 3rd one needs to be CTRL +G'd like I know what youre going for but it plays terribly because there's no reason to have a break in calm flow at that point. Apparently 01:07:350 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - these have the same direction because they have a same tone.
01:11:370 (1) - clap? Same as above.
01:14:899 - you sly ass motherfucker like the weirdest thing is that it kind of works actually.
01:38:036 (1,2,3) - multiple claps in a row never sound good. Even irl. I just tried it. Don't do it. Sound good to me.
01:39:114 (4,5) - It's like your smothering your first child for sleeping with your wife.
01:44:213 (7) - Now you're smothering the second child. Don't do that.
01:55:488 (2) - Would prefer this to be part of a triangle rather than a jerky jump.
01:56:860 (1,2,3) - Like I guess I can't say anything because I don't actually play the game but like I'm 95% certain this jump is a little large. If you look at it more closely you'd notice it's the same as 01:44:311 (1,2,3) - .
02:01:958 - http://puu.sh/k0ZUS/c4e3e164fd.jpg . Like aaaa. I'm a huge advocate for high SVs but at this point it doesn't really work since it just makes the map look outdated in a negative way, and you often times run out of space to make relevant sliders so there's lots of icky overlapping That's kinda subjective here. I don't really see how using high SV is considered "outdated" at all.
02:20:781 - Refer to DiamondCrash for how to handle this section. It's weird slowing down the SV here, especially if the drums really do nothing different. "especially if the drums really do nothing different." w-what? Like, do you even have any idea what you're talking about. The drums apparently stop here.
02:27:056 (1) - nice hitsound bro. But honestly I'd just make this a storyboarded sound (Although I don't know if that's still rankable so uhhhhh. But if it is, do that instead.)
@Zare: pretty much all the maps that have split streams work like that, it's not like it's the only map that has this problem.
Zare
probably

so that is more of an issue that should be addressed by the dev team rather than the mapper?
Doormat
Hello, from my NM Queue- sorry about the delay, already have midterms to write =w=;;

Whoa fancy storyboard :o Holy so many difficulties too, I didn't mod them all, but took a quick look at the higher difficulties. Hope you don't mind ;w;

Difficulties looked at: Jovial, Placid, Ambivalent, Pensive, Vigilance, Desire, Contempt, Determination, Fury
  • - bolded difficulties are the ones that I modded
General
  1. Maybe you can have your kiai time divided into two parts for better emphasis, i.e. make it so that the Kiai Time in all difficulties is similar to Fury
Jovial
  1. 00:51:370 (1) – Perhaps you can put a whistle on the slider end?
  2. 01:38:428 (4,5,6) – Perhaps you can move these upwards slightly so that the (4) is blanketed?
  3. 01:39:997 (1,2,3) – Move these to the right slightly so that the (1) is blanketed?
  4. 01:45:879 – I know the skipped beat here is probably intentional, but I feel like maybe you should put in a note here
  5. 01:48:840 – ^
  6. 02:00:389 – ^
  7. 02:12:938 – ^z
  8. 02:09:409 (2) – I feel like maybe you could delete this note? You can give the following note some emphasis, in my opinion
Placid
  1. 00:57:252 (5) – There’s a beat on 00:57:448 you didn’t use, so maybe you can make this a 1/2 slider?
  2. 01:06:664 (7) – ^
  3. 01:12:154 (5) – Maybe you can have this blanket 01:11:762 (4)
  4. 01:45:095 (6,7,8) – The two 3/4 sliders make this feel a little off here. Maybe you can try a rhythm like this?
Ambivalent
  1. 00:57:252 (5) –Similarly to Placid, maybe you can make this a 1/2 slider?
  2. 01:00:781 (1,2) – These sliders look a little weird in my opinion. Maybe you can readjust the (1) so that it blankets the (2)?
  3. 01:38:036 (4,5,6) – Any reason for the different distance snap here? It looks a little weird here, in my opinion. Maybe adjust this part so that this triple has the same distance snap between the notes?
  4. 01:49:507 (2,3) – Potential blanket?
  5. 02:22:546 (3,4,5,6) – I like the idea of going with the offbeat here rather than the beat, but it still feels a little off. Maybe alter this part so that instead of circles, you have 1/2 sliders?
Pensive
  1. 01:13:330 (1) – Maybe you can make this into a 1/1 slider? It feels like there’s a beat on 01:13:723 you could use
  2. 01:51:958 (5) – Maybe you can reverse (Ctrl + G) this slider?
  3. 02:27:056 (1) – I don’t think a 1/2 slider here is the best fit, since the last beat for what is being mapped appears to be 02:27:056 and not 02:27:252. Maybe change this into a circle?
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Regarding Vigilance, Desire, Contempt, and Fury, I did took a quick look, but they seem fine to me. You might want to get some more people to look at them though. Best of luck and hope this helps ;)
Topic Starter
Garven

Doormat wrote:

Hello, from my NM Queue- sorry about the delay, already have midterms to write =w=;; No worries. Studies come first, then a game.

General
  1. Maybe you can have your kiai time divided into two parts for better emphasis, i.e. make it so that the Kiai Time in all difficulties is similar to FuryI prefer to not have a new fountain. I find the storyboard makes up for that lack of fountain well-enough. Other mappers can comment as they wish.
Jovial
  1. 00:51:370 (1) – Perhaps you can put a whistle on the slider end? I didn't want to flood the intro with too many whistles at the start.
  2. 01:38:428 (4,5,6) – Perhaps you can move these upwards slightly so that the (4) is blanketed? Not really looking for blankets.
  3. 01:39:997 (1,2,3) – Move these to the right slightly so that the (1) is blanketed?
  4. 01:45:879 – I know the skipped beat here is probably intentional, but I feel like maybe you should put in a note here I find that undermapping works wonders for a lot of easier level applications. As for the ones on the long slider, I already had a ton of 1/2 rhythms in here. I wanted a small break with the transitional long slider.
  5. 01:48:840 – ^
  6. 02:00:389 – ^
  7. 02:12:938 – ^
  8. 02:09:409 (2) – I feel like maybe you could delete this note? You can give the following note some emphasis, in my opinion At this point, it was all about the finale (and filling in claps)
Placid
  1. 00:57:252 (5) – There’s a beat on 00:57:448 you didn’t use, so maybe you can make this a 1/2 slider? Again, undermapping for lower level difficulties. I find it works better here than just filling in every single possible beat.
  2. 01:06:664 (7) – ^
  3. 01:12:154 (5) – Maybe you can have this blanket 01:11:762 (4)
  4. 01:45:095 (6,7,8) – The two 3/4 sliders make this feel a little off here. Maybe you can try a rhythm like this? Nice - done.
Ambivalent
  1. 00:57:252 (5) –Similarly to Placid, maybe you can make this a 1/2 slider?
  2. 01:00:781 (1,2) – These sliders look a little weird in my opinion. Maybe you can readjust the (1) so that it blankets the (2)? Mm adjusted a different way.
  3. 01:38:036 (4,5,6) – Any reason for the different distance snap here? It looks a little weird here, in my opinion. Maybe adjust this part so that this triple has the same distance snap between the notes? I found that having 3 hits all distance snapped jumped the difficulty too high too fast. I wanted to save the harder stuff for the kiai section at the end, as the maps all progress in difficulty as the song moves forward.
  4. 01:49:507 (2,3) – Potential blanket?
  5. 02:22:546 (3,4,5,6) – I like the idea of going with the offbeat here rather than the beat, but it still feels a little off. Maybe alter this part so that instead of circles, you have 1/2 sliders? The big gaps have a much better feel of drive to the ending rather than just a string of 1/2 sliders.
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Regarding Vigilance, Desire, Contempt, and Fury, I did took a quick look, but they seem fine to me. You might want to get some more people to look at them though. Best of luck and hope this helps ;)
Thanks so much!
Irreversible

Doormat wrote:

Pensive
  1. 01:13:330 (1) – Maybe you can make this into a 1/1 slider? It feels like there’s a beat on 01:13:723 you could use I did that to create some kind of tension.
  2. 01:51:958 (5) – Maybe you can reverse (Ctrl + G) this slider? It's following a pattern which follows the song. So I can't just change that.
  3. 02:27:056 (1) – I don’t think a 1/2 slider here is the best fit, since the last beat for what is being mapped appears to be 02:27:056 and not 02:27:252. Maybe change this into a circle?Imo the sound is better emphasized while having a 1/2 slider with silenced end.
thanks nevertheless!
Okoratu
I'll provide an update for my diff really soon, went over the last mod again and thought i could apply more of it because making it less circular is actually playing much better.

done
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399,93,130487,2,0,P|395:155|401:227,1,124.200003032227,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,363,130781,1,2,0:2:0:0:
162,184,130977,1,8,0:3:0:0:
388,94,131173,1,0,0:0:0:0:
207,295,131370,5,0,0:0:0:0:
207,295,131468,2,0,P|164:271|67:289,1,124.200003032227,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,240,131762,2,0,B|285:289|285:289|274:373,1,124.200003032227,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
106,160,132056,2,0,P|148:155|233:181,1,124.200003032227,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,205,132350,2,0,P|25:172|27:140,1,62.1000015161133,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
121,40,132546,1,8,0:3:0:0:
233,189,132742,1,0,0:0:0:0:
193,214,132840,1,0,0:0:0:0:
445,159,133036,101,0,0:0:0:0:
445,159,133134,2,0,L|423:219,1,50.3125004798174,4|0,0:3|2:0,0:0:0:0:
265,312,133330,2,0,L|282:264,1,50.3125004798174,4|0,0:3|2:0,0:0:0:0:
365,98,133526,2,0,B|339:158|339:158|355:305,1,201.25000191927,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
474,339,133821,2,0,L|492:285,1,50.3125004798174,4|0,0:3|2:0,0:0:0:0:
449,38,134115,54,0,L|428:99,1,57.5,6|0,0:3|2:0,0:0:0:0:
420,297,134311,2,0,L|438:238,1,57.5,4|0,0:3|2:0,0:0:0:0:
365,26,134507,5,4,0:0:0:0:
365,26,134605,2,0,P|341:60|358:153,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,242,134899,2,0,P|444:203|435:112,1,128.800001572266,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
273,146,135193,2,0,P|283:210|291:289,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,308,135487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
271,43,135683,1,12,0:2:0:0:
230,84,135781,1,0,0:0:0:0:
190,126,135879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
395,169,136075,37,0,0:0:0:0:
395,169,136173,2,0,P|340:145|268:146,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,277,136468,2,0,P|266:261|326:214,1,128.800001572266,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,84,136762,2,0,P|174:99|105:150,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
313,227,137056,1,2,0:2:0:0:
136,42,137252,1,8,0:3:0:0:
90,289,137448,1,0,0:0:0:0:
289,115,137644,5,4,0:0:0:0:
289,115,137742,2,0,P|271:69|197:66,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
118,180,138036,2,0,P|157:167|257:172,1,128.800001572266,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
367,205,138330,2,0,P|350:256|334:339,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,339,138624,1,2,0:2:0:0:
395,127,138821,1,8,0:3:0:0:
404,383,139017,1,0,0:0:0:0:
178,191,139213,101,0,0:2:0:0:
178,191,139311,2,0,P|193:119|244:62,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
451,84,139605,2,0,P|464:135|413:201,1,128.800001572266,12|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,38,139899,2,0,B|351:65|351:65|387:126,1,128.800001572266,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,269,140193,1,2,0:2:0:0:
321,252,140291,2,0,L|297:222,2,32.2000003930664,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
451,84,140585,1,2,0:2:0:0:
456,295,140781,38,0,P|448:329|399:374,1,92,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
409,369,141173,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,212,141370,1,2,0:2:0:0:
326,366,141566,1,2,0:2:0:0:
311,194,141762,1,0,0:0:0:0:
327,161,141860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
357,140,141958,1,2,0:2:0:0:
393,135,142056,1,0,0:0:0:0:
427,147,142154,2,0,L|440:180,3,23,2|0|0|0,0:2|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
453,189,142350,70,0,L|449:83,1,92,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,48,142742,2,0,L|335:145,1,92,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
295,174,143036,2,0,P|261:137|216:124,1,92,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
151,108,143330,1,0,0:0:0:0:
295,255,143526,1,2,0:2:0:0:
160,210,143723,1,2,0:2:0:0:
367,120,143919,37,4,0:0:0:0:
401,148,144017,1,2,0:2:0:0:
416,191,144115,1,0,0:0:0:0:
405,236,144213,1,0,0:0:0:0:
371,267,144311,1,8,0:3:0:0:
331,243,144409,1,0,0:0:0:0:
287,228,144507,1,2,0:2:0:0:
242,222,144605,1,2,0:2:0:0:
197,230,144703,1,8,0:2:0:0:
204,185,144801,1,0,0:0:0:0:
211,139,144899,1,0,0:2:0:0:
217,94,144997,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,59,145095,2,0,L|254:8,1,46,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
142,134,145291,2,0,L|136:182,1,46
288,138,145487,69,4,0:1:0:0:
303,115,145585,2,0,L|309:80,2,20.1249993858338,2|0|0,2:0|2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
319,263,145879,2,0,P|324:229|341:181,1,80.499997543335,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,101,146272,2,0,P|439:133|440:189,1,80.499997543335,2|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,328,146664,53,2,0:2:0:0:
365,156,146860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
446,314,147056,5,4,0:0:0:0:
Bluekrait
Super Mod for Garven!
M4M maybe?

[Jovial (Easy)]
General Thoughts: Easy difficulties must have a star rating below 1.5 ctrl f 'below 1.5'. This can easily be achieved by increasing circle size, avoid starting notes off on red ticks, and/or lowering distance snap. If you were to only choose one, I'd recommend lowering distance snap. 1.3 spacing seems kind of big for an easy. Another thing you can do is just call this a normal and actually map an easy following the suggestions I made above. If not, I'd be willing to make an Easy for you :)
  1. 01:03:919 (1) - Why not make this the same length as 00:51:370 (1) - ? 01:03:919 (1,2) - feels like an empty void between these two notes
  2. 01:14:899 (2,1,2,1,2) - Blue ticks feel weird, but moving it up or back feels more weird. Main reason I'm highlighting these is because they're not parallel. HOWEVER, if you intended to stagger them, just ignore this.
  3. 01:36:860 (1,2,3) - 01:38:428 (4,5,6) - 01:39:997 (1,2,3) - Copy pasting works wonders and saves time when the music is repetitive. Here, while it does fit, it felt a bit dull to play. If you want to keep it, at least blanket 01:38:428 (4,1)
  4. 01:43:919 (2) - Add variation to compliment the music, maybe something like this? I just did a quick ctrl h, ctrl j, and ctrl g to get that.
  5. 01:45:487 (5,1) - Feels like something's missing in between these two notes.
  6. 01:48:036 (2) - Move this back to the white tick and extend if you want it to end at the same place.
  7. 02:00:585 (2) - ^
  8. 02:13:134 (2) - ^
  9. 01:49:409 (1,2,3) - 01:50:977 (4,5,6) - and 01:52:546 (1,2,3) - Ok, well at least you tried to come up with a new pattern for the third set :) This may be just my opinion or the vast majority, but I think blankets play a major role for easy and normal diffs. Since mappers can't rely on crazy creative patterns, blankets are the next best thing to showcase. My challenge for you is to come up with 3 different patterns (keep the the timeline pattern or not) all blanketing each other. Same applies to 01:36:860 (1,2,3) - 01:38:428 (4,5,6) - and 01:39:997 (1,2,3)
  10. 02:20:781 (1,2) - Another void in between these, though it's not too bad.
[Placid (Normal)]
General Thoughts: Again with star difficulty; Normal = 1.5-2.25 stars. The gap between yours (2.45 and 2.25 though shouldn't be too hard to tone down. Overall, better than the easy, but still a bit rough in some places. Spend more time making blankets to make this shine.
  1. 00:59:311 (3) - Something funny how this slider plays. Maybe do something like you did here 01:11:762 (4,5)
  2. 00:57:056 (4,5) - Stack these maybe? 01:05:879 (4,5,6,7) - these are stacked with the same spacing on the timeline
  3. 01:16:566 (1,2,3) - Repeating this pattern is fine because there's no change in the music, I think you should try blanketing them somewhat
  4. 01:38:821 (6,7) - This might be a tricky pattern for normal players. You have momentum coming from 01:38:428 (5) - going down and to the left. Direction changes really fast with the 7 slider twice more. Once going back right to hit the 7 and once more going left to follow the slider. I recommend overlapping the 6 and 7 directly on top of each other or making it an easier transition to the 7 from the 5.
  5. 01:45:095 (6,7) - Maybe blanket this
  6. 01:55:683 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - My favorite part in this diff and what I think the rest of it should look like. It's smooth, has consistent spacing, and good flow.
  7. 02:13:526 (4,5,6) - Even though you gave appropriate spacing, I still think this might be tough for a normal player since the 5 is offbeat. Maybe do something like you did with 02:01:272 (4)
[Ambivalent (Hard)]
General Thoughts: Spacing Spacing Spacing! Even small things like 01:00:389 (7,8,1) - and 01:06:664 (8,9,1) - are very noticeable. The beginning half was a bit rough, but can be fixed with more careful beat placement. I like this one better than the easy, but maybe tied with your normal.
  1. 00:59:311 (5) - Move this back to the white tick and extend so it ends on the same spot in the timeline
  2. 01:01:566 (2) - ^
  3. 01:03:919 (1,2) - There are a number of really cool things you can do here, but what you have currently feels lackluster. Below, I made some quick templates that fit the song rather nicely.
    Here
    are
    some
    options
    Feel free to use any of them or mix them up to put your own twist on respectable parts in the song.
  4. 01:05:487 (4,5) - ^
  5. 01:07:056 (1,2) - ^
  6. 01:11:762 (5,6,7,8) - ^
  7. 01:13:330 (1,2) - ^
  8. 01:16:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - Cool pattern!
  9. 01:30:585 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This was a bit tough to play because there were so many circles. The more circles you put back to back, the more stamina is required to hit the next. Putting circles in a linear pattern like this makes it that much more difficult. One solution that many mappers have come up with is to use acute angles between the circles. They don't have to be perfect triangles; just staggered enough so it doesn't follow a long linear path. 01:29:017 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is much easier to play because it's staggered.
  10. 01:38:134 (5) - Spacing is not equal (.13 previous and .18 next) not sure if this was intended or not seeing that 01:50:683 (5) - has .2 spacing previous and next
  11. 01:40:095 (2) - I feel like I've seen this somewhere before... could just be my imagination.
  12. 01:44:213 (5,6) - Move this more towards the center and give the slider more of a curve towards 01:44:703 (1)
  13. 02:12:056 (2,3) - Cool, I like this
  14. 02:16:075 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - Favorite part by far. Spacing is consistent, but what sets it apart from previous sections of the map is that it looks so much cooler. Why? It's simply easier to blanket straight sliders than curvy ones. Even 02:16:468 (2,1) - blankets nicely. I'm not saying make the whole map with straight sliders. Just spend more time blanketing the curvy ones. Don't get discouraged! If you can make the rest of the map like this section, I might feel obligated to favorite it because I really really really like this part! Here are just a few examples of stuff you may want to consider blanketing:
    01:38:526 (2,3) -
    01:41:664 (2,3,4) -
    01:49:507 (2,3) -
    01:50:781 (6,2) -
    02:05:781 (2,4) -
    02:08:232 (2,1,2) -
[Pensive (Irreversible's Insane)]
General Thoughts: Despite Val being my favorite mapper, this is my favorite map in the set :)
  1. 01:13:330 (1,1) - Feels like a void in between these two
  2. 01:27:448 (1,1) - Are these missing hitsounds?
  3. 01:58:821 (1,2,9) - Very minor, did you want to stack these?
[Vigilance (0108's Insane)]
General Thoughts: I couldn't find anything gamebreaking so this will be a blanket mod.
  1. 01:12:448 (3,4) - Consider overlapping these like you did with 01:06:173 (4,5)
  2. 02:22:154 (1,2,1) - This was a bit difficult to read since the sliders are pointed in the direction the next note is. Consider pointing the sliders in a different direction.
  3. 02:19:605 (3,2) - Very minor, did you want to stack these?
    The following list is of blankets that felt off to me.
    01:43:232 (2,3) -
    01:43:919 (5,7) -
    01:45:095 (2,3) -
    01:46:370 (2,4) -
    01:47:938 (1,3) -
    01:50:095 (4,8) -
    01:52:546 (1,2,3) -
    02:00:487 (1,2) -
    02:03:919 (2,3) -
    02:07:644 (5,6) -
    02:19:213 (1,3) -
    02:20:193 (5,1) -
    02:25:585 (1,2) -
[Desire (oko's Insane)]
General Thoughts: Smells like one of them ranked pp maps. Since it plays fine, here's another blanket mod.

  • 00:57:644 (1,2,3) -
    01:05:585 (2,3,4) -
    01:48:232 (3,4) -
    01:52:938 (3,4) -
    02:02:350 (3,4) -
    02:03:624 (2,5) - Very minor
[Contempt (Ami's Extra)]
General Thoughts: Woah slider heaven here. Was a little messy especially during the second half, but flowed well.
  1. 01:20:291 (3,4) - Out of this whole section, this pattern is the only one that doesn't include a spaced double.
  2. 01:55:291 (13,14) - Consider switching the placement of these two on the timeline for better flow.
  3. 01:57:644 (3,4) - ^
  4. 02:05:193 (2,3) - ^ If you do this, move 02:05:095 (1) appropriately.
  5. 02:06:272 (6,7) - Maybe try something like this?
  6. 02:25:585 (1) - This note was tricky. Maybe move it back a little even though the 'bzzzz' sound starts where is currently so players don't miss it.
[Determination (Expert)]
General Thoughts: That kiai time O_O Spacing is really big for the CS being used, though I guess that's fine since it's an extra.
  1. 01:26:517 (3,4,5) - Maybe make these and the following triplets reverse sliders?
  2. 01:37:252 (3,4) - Blanket
  3. 01:41:664 (2,3) - ^
  4. 01:44:115 (6,7,8,9,10) - Oh Garven, I really like these.
  5. 01:56:664 (6,7,8,9,10) - ^
  6. 02:00:977 (3,4,1) - I think you can do something cool here. Remember, this is an extra!
  7. 02:07:742 (6) - Why is there a reverse here?
  8. 02:20:291 (6) - ^
  9. 02:22:203 (3,4,5) - Only make this a reverse if you change the triples in the beginning.
[Fury (HW's EX)]
General Thoughts: The drain in the beginning is brutal and makes it that much harder to get to the fun parts of the song. Consider lowering the HP to 6 or 6.X. Some patterns are questionable in regards to flow which I've highlighted below.
  1. 01:11:272 (5,1,2,3) - I don't know how I feel about this one. I think it feels out of place when the rest of the patterns in this whole section have sharp back and forth movements.
  2. 01:43:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This is a very awkward pattern to play. 01:43:526 (4) - I think needs to be in a different shape or position to compliment a climbing movement. 01:43:134 (1,2) - climbs up, then we have 01:43:428 (3,4) - which also climbs up, but the slider goes against the climbing motion. There is nothing to catch the momentum coming from 01:43:428 (3). Here's my solution. With a simple ctrl j and ctrl g, we are able to create a slider that 'catches' the cursor coming from 01:43:428 (3).
    Now let's look at the second half of this pattern. 01:43:820 (5) - Doesn't represent anything in the song and just feels like a filler note. I guess that's fine and all as long as you don't accentuate it. I recommend putting it directly on top of 01:43:918 (6) - like you did here: 01:56:370 (5,6)
    Last part of this section is 01:44:213 (7,1,2,3) - I'm not a fan of squares, especially high-speed ones, and I don't know many who are. Maybe consider something like this? I moved 01:44:311 (1) - down to where 01:43:820 (5) - use to be and moved 01:44:409 (2) - so it overlaps 01:43:526 (4). I did my best to make it have minimal impact on your overall aesthetic.
  3. 01:48:232 (2,1,2,1,1,2,1) - Going to complain about this part because it feel unnecessarily hard to read due to spacing. Here is a solution I came up with keeping your note positioning that I think plays much better. Don't change combos or anything; I just numbered them to make it easier to see the order.
  4. 01:55:781 (2) - Put it slight above 01:55:683 (1) because the note is higher in the song. Example
  5. 01:56:860 (1,2) - ctrl g
  6. 02:00:781 (2,1,2,1,1,2,1) - Try this. It's the same as the other pattern except mirrored.
Whew that took awhile. I hope my mods helped!
please consider my gd for this mapset
Topic Starter
Garven

Bluekrait wrote:

[Jovial (Easy)]
General Thoughts: Easy difficulties must have a star rating below 1.5 ctrl f 'below 1.5'. This can easily be achieved by increasing circle size, avoid starting notes off on red ticks, and/or lowering distance snap. If you were to only choose one, I'd recommend lowering distance snap. 1.3 spacing seems kind of big for an easy. Another thing you can do is just call this a normal and actually map an easy following the suggestions I made above. If not, I'd be willing to make an Easy for you :) That is only listing the ranges that the icons will show. It's not a hard-line requirement for naming conventions. For the maps in this set, each one is named as they were intended.
  1. 01:03:919 (1) - Why not make this the same length as 00:51:370 (1) - ? 01:03:919 (1,2) - feels like an empty void between these two notes So I'm going to explain this here, but it will apply as a reply to many of the mods where you call for consistency issues: Each map is designed to be a steady progression of difficulty up until the very end of the map. It rises with the intensity of the song - as each instrument group is added a new layer of difficulty or change in style is applied.
  2. 01:14:899 (2,1,2,1,2) - Blue ticks feel weird, but moving it up or back feels more weird. Main reason I'm highlighting these is because they're not parallel. HOWEVER, if you intended to stagger them, just ignore this. It was intended. Having them all parallel felt too rigid.
  3. 01:36:860 (1,2,3) - 01:38:428 (4,5,6) - 01:39:997 (1,2,3) - Copy pasting works wonders and saves time when the music is repetitive. Here, while it does fit, it felt a bit dull to play. If you want to keep it, at least blanket 01:38:428 (4,1) I only blanket where it's intentionally blanketed. If it's not, then it's not part of the intended pattern. As for the copy/paste feel to everything, you need to remember that this is still an Easy. I'm introducing a pretty tough component with the overlapping objects and 1/2 rhythms. I'm going to drill it into the player's brain as I stick with this for pretty much the rest of the map while I show different variations on this same theme.
  4. 01:43:919 (2) - Add variation to compliment the music, maybe something like this? I just did a quick ctrl h, ctrl j, and ctrl g to get that. I wanted a general smooth curve here to ease in the general high velocity of everything. I don't want to be changing directions too much at this point.
  5. 01:45:487 (5,1) - Feels like something's missing in between these two notes. Nah. Just your imagination.
  6. 01:48:036 (2) - Move this back to the white tick and extend if you want it to end at the same place. Eh, k. Others had raised concerns about these too.
  7. 02:00:585 (2) - ^
  8. 02:13:134 (2) - ^
  9. 01:49:409 (1,2,3) - 01:50:977 (4,5,6) - and 01:52:546 (1,2,3) - Ok, well at least you tried to come up with a new pattern for the third set :) This may be just my opinion or the vast majority, but I think blankets play a major role for easy and normal diffs. Since mappers can't rely on crazy creative patterns, blankets are the next best thing to showcase. My challenge for you is to come up with 3 different patterns (keep the the timeline pattern or not) all blanketing each other. Same applies to 01:36:860 (1,2,3) - 01:38:428 (4,5,6) - and 01:39:997 (1,2,3)
  10. 02:20:781 (1,2) - Another void in between these, though it's not too bad.
[Placid (Normal)]
General Thoughts: Again with star difficulty; Normal = 1.5-2.25 stars. The gap between yours (2.45 and 2.25 though shouldn't be too hard to tone down. Overall, better than the easy, but still a bit rough in some places. Spend more time making blankets to make this shine.
  1. 00:59:311 (3) - Something funny how this slider plays. Maybe do something like you did here 01:11:762 (4,5) This was about as natural as I could get this to play unless you have a better suggestion. I don't want to repeat what I did at 1:11.
  2. 00:57:056 (4,5) - Stack these maybe? 01:05:879 (4,5,6,7) - these are stacked with the same spacing on the timeline I wanted a manual downward stack on these two. I felt the angle that the default stack does for this pattern wouldn't work well.
  3. 01:16:566 (1,2,3) - Repeating this pattern is fine because there's no change in the music, I think you should try blanketing them somewhat I don't really see the need. I wanted this to serpentine, and it does so quite nicely.
  4. 01:38:821 (6,7) - This might be a tricky pattern for normal players. You have momentum coming from 01:38:428 (5) - going down and to the left. Direction changes really fast with the 7 slider twice more. Once going back right to hit the 7 and once more going left to follow the slider. I recommend overlapping the 6 and 7 directly on top of each other or making it an easier transition to the 7 from the 5. Agreed. Rearranged a few things.
  5. 01:45:095 (6,7) - Maybe blanket this Nah
  6. 01:55:683 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - My favorite part in this diff and what I think the rest of it should look like. It's smooth, has consistent spacing, and good flow. Don't forget that y-axis symmetry!
  7. 02:13:526 (4,5,6) - Even though you gave appropriate spacing, I still think this might be tough for a normal player since the 5 is offbeat. Maybe do something like you did with 02:01:272 (4) Part of the increasing difficulty mantra. I accentuated the spacing a bit more to make it more obvious that the rhythm is different.
[Ambivalent (Hard)]
General Thoughts: Spacing Spacing Spacing! Even small things like 01:00:389 (7,8,1) - and 01:06:664 (8,9,1) - are very noticeable. The beginning half was a bit rough, but can be fixed with more careful beat placement. I like this one better than the easy, but maybe tied with your normal. I've done some adjustment, though these examples seem a bit on the nit-picky side.
  1. 00:59:311 (5) - Move this back to the white tick and extend so it ends on the same spot in the timeline
  2. 01:01:566 (2) - ^
  3. 01:03:919 (1,2) - There are a number of really cool things you can do here, but what you have currently feels lackluster. Below, I made some quick templates that fit the song rather nicely. Kinda going along with the simple -> difficult clause on these. I wanted it simple and I don't want to overdo rhythms for a Hard at this point with that in mind.
  4. 01:05:487 (4,5) - ^
  5. 01:07:056 (1,2) - ^
  6. 01:11:762 (5,6,7,8) - ^
  7. 01:13:330 (1,2) - ^
  8. 01:16:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - Cool pattern!
  9. 01:30:585 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This was a bit tough to play because there were so many circles. The more circles you put back to back, the more stamina is required to hit the next. Putting circles in a linear pattern like this makes it that much more difficult. One solution that many mappers have come up with is to use acute angles between the circles. They don't have to be perfect triangles; just staggered enough so it doesn't follow a long linear path. 01:29:017 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is much easier to play because it's staggered. These patterns were kind of driving home that increase in difficulty, so I accomplished what I set out to do. As for your staggering theory, I don't find it to be the case here. Both sets of combos have about the same level of difficulty and carry similar progressions (sets of 2)
  10. 01:38:134 (5) - Spacing is not equal (.13 previous and .18 next) not sure if this was intended or not seeing that 01:50:683 (5) - has .2 spacing previous and next
  11. 01:40:095 (2) - I feel like I've seen this somewhere before... could just be my imagination.
  12. 01:44:213 (5,6) - Move this more towards the center and give the slider more of a curve towards 01:44:703 (1) Made slight adjustments.
  13. 02:12:056 (2,3) - Cool, I like this
  14. 02:16:075 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - Favorite part by far. Spacing is consistent, but what sets it apart from previous sections of the map is that it looks so much cooler. Why? It's simply easier to blanket straight sliders than curvy ones. Even 02:16:468 (2,1) - blankets nicely. I'm not saying make the whole map with straight sliders. Just spend more time blanketing the curvy ones. Don't get discouraged! If you can make the rest of the map like this section, I might feel obligated to favorite it because I really really really like this part! Here are just a few examples of stuff you may want to consider blanketing:
    01:38:526 (2,3) -
    01:41:664 (2,3,4) -
    01:49:507 (2,3) -
    01:50:781 (6,2) -
    02:05:781 (2,4) -
    02:08:232 (2,1,2) -
[Contempt (Ami's Extra)]
General Thoughts: Woah slider heaven here. Was a little messy especially during the second half, but flowed well.
  1. 01:20:291 (3,4) - Out of this whole section, this pattern is the only one that doesn't include a spaced double. Adjusted
  2. 01:55:291 (13,14) - Consider switching the placement of these two on the timeline for better flow. Adjusted
  3. 01:57:644 (3,4) - ^ No change here
  4. 02:05:193 (2,3) - ^ If you do this, move 02:05:095 (1) appropriately. Moved 3.
  5. 02:06:272 (6,7) - Maybe try something like this? I'm preferring the current flow over your suggestion.
  6. 02:25:585 (1) - This note was tricky. Maybe move it back a little even though the 'bzzzz' sound starts where is currently so players don't miss it. Agreed.
[Determination (Expert)]
General Thoughts: That kiai time O_O Spacing is really big for the CS being used, though I guess that's fine since it's an extra.
  1. 01:26:517 (3,4,5) - Maybe make these and the following triplets reverse sliders? Nah
  2. 01:37:252 (3,4) - Blanket Not intended to be a blanket
  3. 01:41:664 (2,3) - ^
  4. 01:44:115 (6,7,8,9,10) - Oh Garven, I really like these.
  5. 01:56:664 (6,7,8,9,10) - ^
  6. 02:00:977 (3,4,1) - I think you can do something cool here. Remember, this is an extra! I think what is there is cool enough. It's all the needed beats leading in to the new section.
  7. 02:07:742 (6) - Why is there a reverse here? The music calls for it and it's a convenient way to reverse the flow at that point.
  8. 02:20:291 (6) - ^
  9. 02:22:203 (3,4,5) - Only make this a reverse if you change the triples in the beginning.
Whew that took awhile. I hope my mods helped! They were, thank you!
Irreversible
Hi, thanks for your kind comment!

Fixed all.

ULTIMATE GRAVY XYZ HYPER BEAM PUNCH!
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Okoratu
fixed the blankes which weren't remapped and were actually intended to be blankets
osu file format v14

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Title:Jue
TitleUnicode:觉
Artist:Irus
ArtistUnicode:Irus
Creator:Garven
Version:Desire (oko's Insane)
Source:東方心綺楼 ~ Hopeless Masquerade
Tags:TOHO SPEED 02 LiLA'c Records Boushitsu no Emotion 亡失のエモーション 秦心 hata no kokoro Ami Hollow Wings Irreversible val0108 Okoratu Ami
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i also nerfed distance between 02:19:017 (7,1) - and killed a repeat from 02:22:154 (9) - for anyone who's interested
Hollow Wings

Bluekrait wrote:

Super Mod for Garven!

[Fury (HW's EX)]
General Thoughts: The drain in the beginning is brutal and makes it that much harder to get to the fun parts of the song. Consider lowering the HP to 6 or 6.X. Some patterns are questionable in regards to flow which I've highlighted below. changed hp to 6.
  1. 01:11:272 (5,1,2,3) - I don't know how I feel about this one. I think it feels out of place when the rest of the patterns in this whole section have sharp back and forth movements. fluent high ds jumps can emphasis every beat better than anti-movements if you care.
  2. 01:43:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This is a very awkward pattern to play. 01:43:526 (4) - I think needs to be in a different shape or position to compliment a climbing movement. 01:43:134 (1,2) - climbs up, then we have 01:43:428 (3,4) - which also climbs up, but the slider goes against the climbing motion. There is nothing to catch the momentum coming from 01:43:428 (3). Here's my solution. With a simple ctrl j and ctrl g, we are able to create a slider that 'catches' the cursor coming from 01:43:428 (3). agree, changed.
    Now let's look at the second half of this pattern. 01:43:820 (5) - Doesn't represent anything in the song and just feels like a filler note. I guess that's fine and all as long as you don't accentuate it. I recommend putting it directly on top of 01:43:918 (6) - like you did here: 01:56:370 (5,6) true, changed.
    Last part of this section is 01:44:213 (7,1,2,3) - I'm not a fan of squares, especially high-speed ones, and I don't know many who are. Maybe consider something like this? I moved 01:44:311 (1) - down to where 01:43:820 (5) - use to be and moved 01:44:409 (2) - so it overlaps 01:43:526 (4). I did my best to make it have minimal impact on your overall aesthetic. you are right, movements should be really tricky here, i considered this part for long time when i map these as well, but the last decision is still the current one, i think the square is not that hard to be caught, so still keep this.
  3. 01:48:232 (2,1,2,1,1,2,1) - Going to complain about this part because it feel unnecessarily hard to read due to spacing. Here is a solution I came up with keeping your note positioning that I think plays much better. Don't change combos or anything; I just numbered them to make it easier to see the order. this pattern is easier to hit if you read those notes correctly, much of people complain about this, but even i can play this pattern, it's just challenging your reading skill, also, spacing is almost following the music's beats' pitch, so still no change.
  4. 01:55:781 (2) - Put it slight above 01:55:683 (1) because the note is higher in the song. Example no change for... maybe you can stare at note123 and slider4's head.
  5. 01:56:860 (1,2) - ctrl g hmmmmmmmm i prefer the current one.
  6. 02:00:781 (2,1,2,1,1,2,1) - Try this. It's the same as the other pattern except mirrored. same as above.
Whew that took awhile. I hope my mods helped!
please consider my gd for this mapset
thanks for modding!
HW's EX
osu file format v14

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Source:東方心綺楼 ~ Hopeless Masquerade
Tags:TOHO SPEED 02 LiLA'c Records Boushitsu no Emotion 亡失のエモーション 秦心 hata no kokoro Ami Hollow Wings Irreversible val0108 Okoratu Ami
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Haya
M4M with Ami. Gonna mod Okoratu's and Ami's diffs..

Okoratu's Insane

  1. 00:52:938 (1) - Would love it if the slider was the same as 00:52:546 (3) - in terms of shape. You might have to tweak the angle by some degrees if you change it.
  2. 00:54:507 (1) - Small blanket issue here with (4). Move the sliderpoint to x279, y 283 and the sliderend to x255, y365.
  3. 00:56:468 (2,3) - For consistency I suggest doing a similar pattern like you did in 00:53:723 (3,4) - . Tbh I also think that the earlier pattern aesthetically looks better.
  4. 00:57:644 (1) - I know that you did an irregular blanket with wider opening, but I think it still looks a lot smoother if you'd do an even blanket. Move the sliderpoint to x358, y127 and sliderend to x338, y191.
  5. 00:58:821 (4,5,6) - This is only a suggestion, but how about stacking (4) on the end of the next slider? 00:59:311 (2) -. If you do this, I think that mirroring the triplet (CTRL + H) would benefit this new placement.
  6. 01:00:193 (5) - Is this circle not stacked on purpose? If not, fix it.
  7. 01:00:781 (1,2) - Very small detail, but how about stacking both notes on the end of 00:59:605 (3) - ? I don't think that it's gonna be a huge impact, but it's nice to look at.
  8. 01:03:919 (1,2) - I'd love it if you could use the same 1,2 pattern like you used in 01:03:428 (5,6) - . It would look like a continuation of the previous pattern which I think is a nice touch.
  9. 01:05:487 (1,2) - There are small blanket issues with the two following sliders. Simple way to fix it would be placing (1,2) on x224, y162.
  10. 01:11:860 (2,3) - Just a suggestion, but how about using the same slidershape for this pattern?
  11. 01:23:624 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Really like this pattern. :)
  12. 01:28:232 (1,2,3,4) - I think you could improve this jump pattern a bit. All of the previous jump patterns were neatly placed (sauber platzierte?) shapes. This last pattern just isn't visually appealing like the other ones.
  13. 01:41:958 (3) - Ah. You are millimeters away from stacking this end on the previous (7). Really small detail.
  14. 01:55:193 (6) - How about changing the angle of this kickslider so it lines up with the (5)? Looks better in my opinion.
  15. 01:55:683 (1,2) - Ah. Could've stacked these notes with the previous sliderend!
  16. 02:00:977 (4) - Shorten this slider to 1/4. There is neither a sound nor a beat at the big white tick where this slider is currently ending. However there is a sound at the blue tick in in front of it.
  17. 02:21:173 (2) - This stack here confused me slightly when playing. There is so much going on in this song and everything is fast but suddenly there is a stop with the stack. It destroys the otherwise good flow here. So you might want to move the 2 somewhere near x264, y280 and do some kind of star shape with the other notes or something.
  18. 02:26:664 (1) - I think removing the NC here fits better.
Overall this was the most fun difficulty for me. Flow was good and all I could really suggest were minor cosmetic changes. Nice diff :)

Ami's Extra

  1. I don't like the slider velocity you chose in the second half 01:36:860 - . I think it feels unnatural to hit them consistently with 300's since they go so far and you chose to place your sliders in a jumpy way. It might just be me but maybe consider reducing the x1.50 increase. Maybe I'm just bad though.
  2. 00:56:075 (1,2,3) - This triplet doesn't fit music wise. I'd suggest you to replace it with either a 1/2 slider or more preferably (since it's your style) with a 3/4 slider.
  3. 00:55:683 (4) - This slider isn't properly stacked with the end of (1).
  4. 00:55:291 (3,4) - I would really prefer it if you would use the same slider. It visually looks better and shows some consistency.
  5. 00:56:075 (1) - You could place this circle on x270, y 69 for a blanket with the earlier slider.
  6. 00:57:056 (4,5) - Both of these notes are so far to the left! The previous slider's angle suggest a movement up/slightly left. So I think you might want to move both of these notes some grids to the right. Don't forget to keep the distance the same as 00:56:468 (2,3) - .
  7. 00:58:821 (6,7) - I'm not a huge fan of this combination. I think for the sake of flow and playability you should change it up so you go circle -> slider instead of slider -> circle.
  8. 00:59:997 (5) - Move this slider to x73, y209 for a better blanket both ways.
  9. 01:00:879 (2,3) - Aw. I think it would be better to use the same slider for this pattern. Having slightly different ones looks kinda weird.
  10. 01:02:938 (2,3) - I think you overlooked the stack here. If this was intentional, ignore this but if not, stack it!
  11. 01:04:605 (4) - I think you should either do a full blanket here, or position the Slider so that it's in a line with the previous slider. Like this:
  12. 01:05:095 (6) - You can see this overlap while playing. It's not a huge issue, but you could either stack it with the sliderhead or just place it some grids more upwards to avoid an overlap.
  13. 01:09:017 (3) - Move this slider to x348, y128. There is not musical difference for the prev. and next to be different.
  14. 01:11:860 (2,3) - Please use the same slider here. It's all for aesthetical reasons
  15. 01:20:291 (3) - I find this slidershape to be rather random here. You only used simple shapes like curves and straight sliders for the beginning and also this part. Change it to a curved slider I'd say
  16. 01:21:566 (2) - Uh. Personally I think the slider looks weird. But it's just my opinion here :D
  17. 01:28:821 (8) - So this circle was really awkward to play in my first test run because you had a good jump flow earlier, where everything is headed in one direction and suddenly on this last circle you go back to the previous one. I'd suggest that you keep the triangles going and find a good pattern to keep the flow going.
  18. 01:29:801 - Stream pattern was really smooth. Nice :)
  19. 01:32:546 (2,3,4) - This is just my opinion, but using a NC on each of these kicksliders improves the visual aspect.
  20. 01:32:546 (2,3) - Keep the distance the same as the other notes at x1.41
  21. 01:33:723 - I think you should insert a circle here as there is still a beat going on here.
  22. 01:40:683 (4) - Minimal blanket issue here. Move the sliderpoint to x15, y233 and the sliderend to x24, y132.
  23. 01:40:977 (5,6,7) - You could've done a more symmetrical pattern here. For example maybe something like this? (of course you'd need to fit it in the rest of the map)
  24. 01:45:683 (5) - Turn this slider by 45 degrees anti-clockwise. This is for improving the flow and making the oncoming sliders less awkward to get to.
  25. 01:46:664 (3,4) - Interesting sliders :)
  26. 01:51:958 (5) - Just a suggestion for cosmetic purposes, but how about stacking this slider onto the end of 01:51:075 (2) - ? It would fit the pattern pretty well and be looking really good.
  27. 01:54:115 (8) - NC this slider!
  28. 01:54:507 (10,11) - No offense here, but I think you would be better off with normal curved sliders. I think that your other "non-meta" sliders are alright but these here are plain ugly.
  29. 01:55:487 (14) - CTRL + G here would be very fitting for a more linear flow.
  30. 02:01:272 (5,6) - This part here was really confusing to play. Don't ask me why, maybe because of the small gap but idk
  31. 02:04:899 (7) - This slider pushes the flow from the top to the bottom, however the following note is a fast double in the top area of the screen. So what I would suggest here is taking all 3 sliders here 02:04:507 (5,6,7) - and doing a CTRL + G on each of them individually.
  32. 02:10:487 (4) - You should stack this slider properly on the previous slider. And don't forget to restack this one too 02:11:468 (2) -
  33. 02:19:213 (8) - NC this note.
  34. 02:24:899 (5,6) - Noooo why did you use different sliders again?
  35. 02:25:879 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think you could really improve this pattern. As it is now it is really boring to play and to look at. Perhaps something like this (Might be a poorly detailed pattern, but it's just an example :D )
    SPOILER
    292,52,145879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    388,320,146075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    140,164,146272,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    392,52,146468,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    270,309,146664,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    205,23,146861,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    436,224,147056,1,0,0:0:0:0:
This Difficulty has great potential. All you have to work on are consistency with slidershapes and the overall visual aspect of your map. I have seen some flow issues which I have adressed but I do think that the flow is the star in this difficulty. :) maybe smaller slider velo because i suck

Uuh... I might edit Garven's Extra later if I got enough power left.... maybe.
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