hahaha funny manSylveon wrote:
I'm not saying the PP is broken, I'm saying that if you are going to nerf 600pp scores then treat all mods with the same value. I don't believe Hvicks play to be better than Xilvers in the slightest. Yet Xilver gets nerfed severely? Do you think Hvicks play is better than Xilvers and deserves 665pp vs 592?
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSylveon wrote:
I'm not saying the PP is broken, I'm saying that if you are going to nerf 600pp scores then treat all mods with the same value. I don't believe Hvicks play to be better than Xilvers in the slightest. Yet Xilver gets nerfed severely? Do you think Hvicks play is better than Xilvers and deserves 665pp vs 592?
LOLOLLO!L!O!!! xDDDDxxxxxxxxxxddddddddddSylveon wrote:
I'm not saying the PP is broken, I'm saying that if you are going to nerf 600pp scores then treat all mods with the same value. I don't believe Hvicks play to be better than Xilvers in the slightest. Yet Xilver gets nerfed severely? Do you think Hvicks play is better than Xilvers and deserves 665pp vs 592?
I think someone messaged you all this thread to have you post here.
You are wrong, OP. This doesn't not not bother me.
Because farming in general is toxic. Encouraging players to play maps that contain 6 minutes of 5* difficulty sections and 2 minutes of 8* difficulty sections over and over again is worse than encouraging players to play maps that are 1 minute long with 45 seconds of 7.5* difficulty sections and 15 seconds of 6* difficulty sections.Khelly wrote:
Why is rewarding high consistency even worse? How is people who can do certain fcs retrying for hours on an 8 minute long map not worthy but it's okay for shorter maps?chainpullz wrote:
No, I don't think players should be rewarded more for farming 8 minute long maps outside of the already given long map bonus. Farming maps like that is even worse than farming 2 minute DT maps.
Long maps already get a pp bonus for consistency. The reason they don't get played is because nobody wants to be bored out of their mind playing 5* difficulty for the 8/10 hours they spend retrying the map when they could just cut out the 5* difficulty parts by playing DT maps.
When I say the farming is worse I don't mean "this player should be looked down on for doing it," I mean that the action of farming those maps is a toxic play experience in the same sense that making new players farm old content in lfr for 10 weeks to catch up on legendary quests is toxic in WoW.
Angelsim should be awarded for his HR FDFD play for the 1024x combo at whatever acc he had on it (probably above 99% on that section) for whatever the average difficulty of that 1024x combo was. Additionally, he should be awarded for every other combo he got on the map based on the acc, length, and difficulty of them.
This alone would remove the apparent discrepancy between DT and other maps. Inevitably the long map bonus would have to be scaled such that fc'ing a long map would give a slight bonus over a 1x miss play halfway through but those are minor details.
Well that's how it works. The problem is that such a system ends up underrating small circle sizes, so on top of that Tom added an extra aim pp bonus for maps with a circle size above 6 (I think.) Imo that was the right choice. All it needs is the right tweaking.Redon wrote:
Shouldn't pp for small circles automatically result from the ratio between (jump) distance and hitcircle radius? I think realistically if you were to take a map, scale it down to 50% and reduce the hitcircle size by half, the pp gain should be exactly the same.uberpancake wrote:
Well that nerf wasn't directed at xilver's ice angel score. It was simply some rebalancing around small circles that was supposed to be done months ago but accidentally didn't go through.
AR10,whatever 7,9* FC not better than AR10 6,7*Sylveon wrote:
I'm not saying the PP is broken, I'm saying that if you are going to nerf 600pp scores then treat all mods with the same value. I don't believe Hvicks play to be better than Xilvers in the slightest. Yet Xilver gets nerfed severely? Do you think Hvicks play is better than Xilvers and deserves 665pp vs 592?
nice meme
You're failing to account for CS, OD and Object count there HK.
I believe in Tom.
I dont, 1-2* easy/normals full mod gives still similar pp to ar8-9 3.5-4* insane maps and require zero or even negative skill to play.Endaris wrote:
I believe in Tom.
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ewwwwwww its the shittier version of doomsday.... get off my postTasty Beverage wrote:
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSylveon wrote:
I'm not saying the PP is broken, I'm saying that if you are going to nerf 600pp scores then treat all mods with the same value. I don't believe Hvicks play to be better than Xilvers in the slightest. Yet Xilver gets nerfed severely? Do you think Hvicks play is better than Xilvers and deserves 665pp vs 592?
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Hey, this post was never about me :3Momiji wrote:
nice acc lol
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*edit* how did you even spell the name of that song correctly
Half my playcount, 340 times my rankSylveon wrote:
ewwwwwww its the shittier version of doomsday.... get off my post
Keep trying buddy maybe you'll break 10k one day.
It's ironic that you think my skill level means I'm less entitled to post because your rank tells me you haven't got a fucking clue about this game, so you should leave judgements on the pp system to people who know what they're talking about.
It's banter.Momiji wrote:
i think he was only semi-serious at most :^OTasty Beverage wrote:
The only people who can talk about pp are the top 10 :^)
I'll be completely honest - I think the idea of getting 10,000 pp should be reserved as an upper boundary that is supposed to be impossible to achieve yet highly desirable for professional players to set their sights on. The fact that hvick has over 10,000 pp simply means the entire ranking system is extremely lenient and has to be completely nerfed. Scale the whole system back by 10%. Problem solved.
Tom only works that way for the star diff rating.
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ahh.... hit a light nerve with you did I?Tasty Beverage wrote:
Half my playcount, 340 times my rankSylveon wrote:
ewwwwwww its the shittier version of doomsday.... get off my post
Keep trying buddy maybe you'll break 10k one day.
It's ironic that you think my skill level means I'm less entitled to post because your rank tells me you haven't got a fucking clue about this game, so you should leave judgements on the pp system to people who know what they're talking about.
I'm sorry that the truth hurts D:and I never claimed to be good at the game either.
Nice try though, better luck next time (Y)
Why should anyone be bothered with this?
hvick is just the best
hvick is just the best
Why does this bother you? You cant even play those maps 
As far as i goes not, this talk is fairly pointless...
You are not gonna improve your skill up to level when you will be able to play this maps and complain about them by talking.
Bye, nothing interesting here anymore.
You are not gonna improve your skill up to level when you will be able to play this maps and complain about them by talking.
Bye, nothing interesting here anymore.
insert "pls enjoy game" here
If Miraizu was OD9 Hvick would already have a 700pp play
What acc would he have if all his hits were on od 10.3?
idk but I know he'd be capable of setting a score worth 700+pp
I mean he has 98.47% on DT remote control which is OD10.3 and ridiculously hard to acc (IMO) so he could do very gud
I mean he has 98.47% on DT remote control which is OD10.3 and ridiculously hard to acc (IMO) so he could do very gud
I'm assuming you meant if his current play were converted from od 9.67 to 10.3Mahogany wrote:
idk but I know he'd be capable of setting a score worth 700+pp
I mean he has 98.47% on DT remote control which is OD10.3 and ridiculously hard to acc (IMO) so he could do very gud
Well in that case I'd have no idea
what about rrytui
Rrytui doesn't even play anymore.Mahogany wrote:
what about rrytui
which makes me sad