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Poll 26: Should we remove scoreboards from qualified maps?

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Should we remove scoreboards from qualified beatmaps?

Yes
334
12.16%
No
634
23.08%
Keep them but don't reward performance points until ranked
1779
64.76%
Total votes: 2747
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jesse1412
1,457 posts
Joined January 2010
jesse1412
I'm still not seeing how not rewarding pp helps, people will still lose their scores, still be mad and people will be confused about not gaining pp.

IMO it's black or white, keep the ranking charts or remove them. I am far more inclined to shout out and mod a map after qualification because I may possibly play it to set a competitive score. The best way to spot issues with a map is to attempt in numerous times, I will not try to set scores on a map without a scoreboard.

So from my perspective: Remove scoreboards - fine but qualified becomes disassociated with players, don't expect to see their views of a map unless their an active modder.

Keep scoreboards, remove pp until rank: Expect just as much bitching about DQ' and more confusion about pp.

Keep scoreboards: We're where we are today. This is my preference.
Lust
osu! Alumni
2,667 posts
Joined January 2013
Lust

jesus1412 wrote:

I'm still not seeing how not rewarding pp helps, people will still lose their scores, still be mad and people will be confused about not gaining pp.

IMO it's black or white, keep the ranking charts or remove them. I am far more inclined to shout out and mod a map after qualification because I may possibly play it to set a competitive score. The best way to spot issues with a map is to attempt in numerous times, I will not try to set scores on a map without a scoreboard.

So from my perspective: Remove scoreboards - fine but qualified becomes disassociated with players, don't expect to see their views of a map unless their an active modder.

Keep scoreboards, remove pp until rank: Expect just as much bitching about DQ' and more confusion about pp.

Keep scoreboards: We're where we are today. This is my preference.
I think my suggestion on the previous page is a good middle-ground for this.
Deimos
802 posts
Joined April 2012
Deimos
I would rather like to see an ingame warning like "This beatmap is currently qualified. If it gets disqualified, all scores will be wiped." or something else to make it easier to identify Qualified Beatmaps in song select.

And wiping all scores when it got ranked would increase the drama/complaints in my point of view. More scores getting wiped == more players will be affected by losing pp which results in more drama/complaints.
reflexit
12 posts
Joined January 2014
reflexit
Although not rewarding pp essentially makes no difference, getting no pp temporarily still makes me feel better than gaining lots of pp and suddenly losing them all.
But anyway, as many people mentioned above, since qualified maps are different from ranked ones, it is necessary to use a different icon for qualified maps.
Risa
435 posts
Joined January 2014
Risa

jesus1412 wrote:

Keep scoreboards, remove pp until rank: Expect just as much bitching about DQ' and more confusion about pp.

Keep scoreboards: We're where we are today. This is my preference.
Just saying : i am that guy who spends as much time playing qualified maps as ranked maps and never really cared about pp in general.

Also, when a mapset got DQed because of let's say only some issues in the easy diff, i hope that there'll be a way to 'reapply' my scores that i got last time for the other diffs that remain unchanged when the map gets requalified. If that's not possible then it's fine i guess.
7ambda
2,560 posts
Joined January 2015
7ambda

DanSparce wrote:

getting no pp until ranked is still useless for me though because i think players play qualified maps so they get an advantage for pp and qualified maps without the pp/scoreboard part for me doesn't differentiate it from pending that much.
There's no advantage to playing qualified maps. I honestly think it's because many players are impatient. When they see a qualified map that gives a shit ton of pp, they don't want to wait a week to get that pp score, despite the cons of playing qualified maps.
AncuL
1,114 posts
Joined March 2013
AncuL
the 3rd one is so far the best

in my opinion just add bubble, qualify and disqualify icon to the actual game,making it easier to know which one is qualified and which one isnt
Ortlinde
255 posts
Joined January 2015
Ortlinde
ayy lemao
Hathz
157 posts
Joined August 2013
Hathz

AncuL wrote:

in my opinion just add bubble, qualify and disqualify icon to the actual game,making it easier to know which one is qualified and which one isnt
This. I will mail you my unborn child in exchange for this.
[224]Reol
Former osu!catch Champion: 2015
64 posts
Joined September 2013
[224]Reol
I cant understand... Why qualified maps get scoreboards?
Why should a user be play? idk
Mercurial
Mercurial
Scoreboards are fine.

PP should not be rewarded for only "QUALIFIED" maps.
Yuudachi-kun
5,432 posts
Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun

AncuL wrote:

the 3rd one is so far the best

in my opinion just add bubble, qualify and disqualify icon to the actual game,making it easier to know which one is qualified and which one isnt
That way I know which maps to avoid playing.
Spaghetti
1,118 posts
Joined August 2014
Spaghetti
I think Lust's suggestion is by far the best option.
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg

peppy wrote:

but after several months of testing, the only result of having scoreboards on these maps is huge drama and complaints from players who lose their scores when a map is disqualified.
This is 4 month late. There is no any huge drama from players about their scores lately, maybe just 1 random post saying "oh I lost my fc", can't say this is drama, everyone is aware about qualified section already. Why you should change something that just started to work properly?
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-

AncuL wrote:

the 3rd one is so far the best

in my opinion just add bubble, qualify and disqualify icon to the actual game,making it easier to know which one is qualified and which one isnt
t/353624
t/247673
Neutral
168 posts
Joined July 2014
Neutral
I love the mentality of if it gives no pp ill avoid the map... the whole idea of the qualified section is that a larger mass of people play it and give feedback on the map lol.
Karuta-_old_1
947 posts
Joined November 2009
Karuta-_old_1
I don't even care whether it gives pp or not
[ Schinken ]
4 posts
Joined December 2014
[ Schinken ]
Yeah. I completely agree
Acylica
Elite Mapper
295 posts
Joined September 2012
Acylica
imo, don't give pp before Ranked,
and Qualified status changes to Ranked,
then give pp for qualified records.
Diony
86 posts
Joined April 2014
Diony
imo, Dont give pp before rank, and remove scoreboard. But keep rank achieved and/or acc and/or misses or something like that for reference to past plays.
VanillaVilla
7 posts
Joined June 2014
VanillaVilla
The fact that maps are qualified instead of ranked should be shown clearly in-game (unless it is shown there already and I'm just missing it?) :?:

But yeah, no PP unless they rank seems to be the best option.
Risa
435 posts
Joined January 2014
Risa
p/4450590
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
It happened
Naty540
1 post
Joined June 2015
Naty540
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Graf wrote:

There should be a clearer indication in-game if the map is qualified or ranked imo.
abraker
Global Moderator
8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

Naty540 wrote:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Graf wrote:

There should be a clearer indication in-game if the map is qualified or ranked imo.
There is. See the cutting-edge release.
Mercurial
Mercurial
Well, the least voted option was the one that ppy is using right now.

Thanks Obama.
abraker
Global Moderator
8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

Mercurial wrote:

Well, the least voted option was the one that ppy is using right now.
Thanks Obama.
What are you talking about? The scoreboards are still there, granted they are reset upon rank.
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
The most voted option in the poll was the one used.
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Abraker
The notice appears in all builds
Not only CE
abraker
Global Moderator
8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

Baraatje123 wrote:

Abraker
The notice appears in all builds
Not only CE
Naty540's post made me think it doesn't. I've been on Beta and CE for the past month, so I don't know what's on stable anymore.
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
The same day it came on CE
Well, I played 1 day later so it might've been later though
Halogen-
Former osu!mania 4K Champion: 2015
574 posts
Joined September 2009
Halogen-

abraker wrote:

Mercurial wrote:

Well, the least voted option was the one that ppy is using right now.
Thanks Obama.
What are you talking about? The scoreboards are still there, granted they are reset upon rank.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

The most voted option in the poll was the one used.
Mercurial is right: abraker proved it. Because the scores are reset after the map being ranked, the scores are by definition, being removed. Therefore, the least voted option is the one that was chosen.

This doesn't bother me, I was one of that 12%. :p
Bara-
11,955 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Yet they still have rankings
If you looked at the whole thread. You'll see Lust added a 4th suggestion, which is what happened
It never appeared in the poll though
You are both wrong, as the suggestion which became true wasn't in the poll
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