Gj :^)
Deif wrote:
Good day Elite Mapper :_>
Deif wrote:
Good day Elite Mapper :_>
Xinely wrote:
Deif wrote:
Good day Bangsat Elite Mapper :_>
Xinely wrote:
dem u ming i have to make another post
General
- 02:12:259 - a kiai fountain would be nice for me :'( Not for now. I'd have to add more fountains as there are similar beats in other parts and it would be too much.
Platter
- 01:46:850 (1) - actually same as Rain but it's still fine to make a bit undermapped since this diff isnt highest diff. but i would make the rhythms a bit harder if you ask me Tried something :>
- 02:01:505 - add note maybe? a quite strong drum music here Done~
Rain
- 01:01:480 (1) - i would give HDash to catch this slider actually as the background music is cymbal. i would change the placement example http://puu.sh/js9KM.jpg Increased distance a tiny bit to add more emphasis, but I don't want to add hyperdash here because I can't do so on the next repeat of this pattern.
- 01:07:292 (10,11,1) - somehow played not really well for me, i have no idea to give suggestion just mentioning it Moved it a bit
- 01:21:192 (2) - just my personal taste that i prefer movement with ctrl+g this slider Personally I prefer it the way it's now, but this pattern is Deif's so he can have word on this.
- 01:46:850 (1) - yep i told you before about this.. feels undermapped :C Tried something
- 02:04:477 - basically add note here to follow the music and for consistency with 02:06:741 - The sound here is weaker, keeping it
congratsDeif wrote:
Good day Elite Mapper :_>
yeh reallyDakeDekaane wrote:
Deif Elite Mapper II when?
Yuii- wrote:
SURPIRSE, ELITE MAPPER!
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[Cup][Salad]
- 00:30:730 (3,4) - Podrías acentuarlos más, sobre todo considerando que el beat más fuerte se apoya en 3>4. Por otra parte, cambiar esto haría que el jump en 4>1 se haga mayor. Mi recomendación sería que muevas (4) 2 píxeles a las izquierda de (2) y luego que acomodes (1) 2/3 píxeles a la derecha de (3). De esta manera vas a tener un patrón de puta madre! Lo mismo va para 00:36:730 (3,4) - . El mapset en general está hecho algo fácil (quizás la Rain escapa un poco a eso), por eso prefiero no aumentar tanto las distancias.
- 00:38:980 (1) - ¿Razón para este NC? NC every stanza (?
- 01:08:792 - Qué raro que no estés agregando nada acá, aún cuando hay un beat audible que es perfectamente mappeable. Lo quise omitir a propósito, para que la primera vez sea un ritmo más sencillo
- 01:35:600 (2) - Este slider está literalmente matando a los otros dos patrones en 01:33:350 (1,2) - y 01:36:350 (1,2) - . Opinión personal, claro, es lo que yo haría: slider con reverse tanto en 01:34:100 - como en 01:37:100 - . De esta manera, no matarías a los pobres beats inocentes que están siendo ignorados. Ese slider quise mapearlo a la trompeta, para darle algo de variedad.
- 01:52:100 (3) - Why!? Esto es muy inconsistente con lo que hiciste previamente en todos los 2>3>4. Siempre el 3 era el que sobresalía. Movelo 2 píxeles a la derecha, no mata a nadie! Hecho
[Platter]
- 01:35:600 (2) - Lo mismo que expliqué en la Cup, y esta vez tiene más sentido, al ser una dificultad mayor, seguís utilizando los mismos patrones. Prefiero dejarlo como está, para que no sea tanto spam de 1/2 en una parte relativamente calma
- 01:42:350 (1) - Riquísimo NC, pero sigue el mismo ritmo que 01:43:850 (1) - entonces quizás sacarle el combo a 01:43:850 (1) - no estaría mal! Sigue la tendencia de 1 NC cada 4 ticks blancos
- 01:46:850 (1,2) - Ay bb, esto suena horrible! ¿Por qué? Sigue la trompeta en el fondo
- 02:17:134 (2) - ¿Whistle quizás? Acá literalmente no hay nada hitsoundeado. Agregado
- 02:21:071 - Y acá falta un círculo que ignora el beat que está rompiendo con todo lo que venías mappeando. Agregado
[Collab Rain]
- 00:18:729 (3) - ¿Finish quizás? El Clap actual es demasiado random. Si quitas el clap, ya hay un sonido como clap en la canción. También me parecía random, pero considerando eso calza con la canción.
- 00:36:730 (6,7) - Estás haciendo mucho hincapié en este patrón, ¿no? Con x448 mantenés el HDash y sigue siendo muchísimo más fácil de agarrar. El actual se ve muy forzado y hasta injugable. Bueno, pa los newbs
- 00:48:167 - Hmm... no estoy muy convencido de llegar a ignorar este beat. Lo mismo pasa con 02:17:134 - y 02:21:634 - . Son beats que impactan en la música y llegan a resaltar más que los demás, es justamente el sonido que NO se puede dejar tirado. Ni en la Rain está mapeado y queda bien.
- 01:52:475 (13) - Yo haría el spacing acá en vez de dejar una única nota sola como hacés en 01:52:662 (15) - . No se ve tan bien y es un poco más dificil de jugar.
- 02:39:259 - A partir de acá empieza el problema serio.
El spacing de las notas actual está bien, el tema está en cada vez que hay un cambio de color nuevo. La transición de las notas debería ser decreciente. En la primera parte, exactamente en 02:40:196 (6,1) - el spacing es de 3.14x. Hasta acá bien. Luego, se achica, cosa que está perfecto, en 02:41:321 (6,1) - a 2.96x. Después a 1.41x con 02:42:446 (6,1) - ... pero a continuación tenemos un 1.55x en 02:43:571 (6,1) - que rompe con todo este mundillo. Sin mencionar que desde 2.96x > 1.41x hay una diferencia enorme si lo comparás con el 3.14x > 2.96x.Arreglado, pero "problema serio", exagerado pls---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 00:18:730 (4) - Mismo que en el Platter (slidertail). Lo mismo que en Platter (?
- 00:42:730 (6) - Yo lo haría un stream, preferentemente. Demasiado ruido constante para intentar taparlo con un slider. Está bien así, es una idea que quise mantener entre todas las diffs
- 02:24:071 (9,10) - ¿Cuál es la razón para semejante salto? No hay nada para hacer énfasis, en mi opinión... En mi opinión queda bien para enfatizar las trompetas y el inicio del break
- 02:39:259 - Lo mismo que en Platter. Esto es de Deif, y a mí me gusta como está.
Call me back!
Only the uploader of the map gets the meritsDakeDekaane wrote:
Deif Elite Mapper II when?
yea, cup diff doesn't have a BG because of wrong (typo?) codesraianshimuzu wrote:
Cup diff doesn't have a BG so you need to fix that or is it just me?
ayy, new page
- Magic Bomb - wrote:
PlaceholderCup00:28:105 (3) - Not sure about this slider (And the other sliders like this, in the kiai times), because they could lead to very easy drops. Reduced the distance a bit on this kind of patterns
00:31:480 (1) - x:224 feels a lot better on this slider, it felt awkward to hit previously.Fixed with ^Salad00:23:230 (2) - A dash here would be nice, move this to x:16, I feel it fits quite nicely here. I prefer it the current way it is, to introduce the rhythm change
00:32:980 (1) - Ctrl+H and move to x:457. A very minor change but it bugs me how it is now. Sure, fixed.
01:09:167 (4) - A dash would be nice here. Maybe x:432? Moved to x:408, didn't want to increase distance to next circle that much
01:12:167 (2) - x:216, just to make sure the player knows to dash here, it's currently possible (Albeit hard) to get this without dashing.I think the current distance already induces dashingPlatter00:40:105 (3,4) - A dash to 3 feels nice here, whilst maintaining the HDash to 4, so what I would do is move 3 to x:48 and 4 to x:100.It looks really weird, with distance between (3) and (4) become too short
00:42:730 (6) - Imo the hyper to this doesn't really fit. Move this to x:224 to keep a nice dash but getting rid of the HDash. I think it does fit, the drums are a bit stronger
01:02:980 (2) - A dash to this feels better. x:256 plays quite nicely. I didn't really like the way it played, keeping it.
01:14:042 (3) - Dash please for the change in pitch. x:416, maybe? Added a dash, with different positions
02:32:884 (7) - Just a normal dash here feels better than a HDash, in my opinion. I'd move this to x:320. OkRain00:46:105 (9,10,11) - I think a hyper fits going to 9, so I would stack 9 on top of 11 at x:48, and then maybe move 10 to x:0? Ok
01:21:350 (1) - x:224 please. This HDash feels very strange to play how it is now. Deif the symmetry freak won't approve, and to me it loses some of it's feeling.
01:37:850 (1,2) - Weaken these HDashes a bit please. I'd say x:472 on 1 and x:40 on 2 feels good. Done
All these next changes should go together: Deif's original pattern had hyperdashes. I decided to take them out to not make this pattern too hard on purpose (in its current state, you need like 1-2 dashes and then it's completely walkable).
02:09:125 (1) - A HDash would fit nicely here for the pitch change. Maybe x:176?
02:10:142 (1,2) - HDash to 1 feels nice here, I'd drag these to x:416.
02:11:044 (1,2) - HDash to 1 here feels nice too, drag these to x:464.
02:11:258 (2) - Tilt this a tiny bit more to the right, flow feels better.
02:11:472 (1) - HDash to this feels nice, I'd move it to x:112.
02:14:884 (5) - HDash to this sounds right, x:416? Done
Alright done Call me back.
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Loctav wrote:
[General]
Too many diverse usage of hitsounds. I know this Drum sampleset is very tempting. but this Whistle+Clap spam on certain sections is really disturbing. You used too many different hitsounds in my opinion, in a way too inconsistent way. Polish it up and slim it down, reconsider your current concept, because right now, my ears are bleeding. Reworked the hitsounding based on Deif's.
[Salad]
AR6,1 is pointless. Put AR6. No need to fiddle pointlessly with the comma values. Done
[Platter]
AR7,2? Oh jeez. I would put at least 7,5. Considering that we speed up at some point, 7,2 is a bit less. 7,5 played WAY better for me.
HP6 or 5 - HP5,5 makes either no sense, as you just put this value without any significant effect, unless you want to proof that you don't understand how the difficulty settings work at all. I would put 6. Both done
[Rain]
srsly AR8,3. Do you have some crush on comma values? Increased AR to 8.5
02:03:486 (5,6,7,8) - considering the just small gain of note pacing, I find this section a bit too "dashy"? I think, a normal walk pattern with less spacing would suffice here Done
02:11:472 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - oh, this plays just fine. I just found this underwhelming, considering the speedup. Whereas in the previous point, you had some dashy stuff on a rather calm section, you rather do not want to use any HDashes here? That seems odd. Increased the distance a bit so, visually, it fits better with the speedup. I don't want to add hyperdashes here, though.
02:43:759 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I find the transistion between the sharp angles and the jump to 02:44:332 (1) - a bit harsh, compared to the rest and especially compared to the kiai time, which is by nature supposed to be more intense and harsh, but isn't. Especially since the BPM changes already happen at 02:44:134 (5) - Reworked this
02:45:344 (5,1) - This is quite harsh, too. Reduced distance on this.
Difficulty names must only be the name of the respective difficulty, and nothing else. No ztrot’s Hard or anything comparable.
Thanks for the checkJBHyperion wrote:
I am late D:
General Comments
Did a scrutinous check on the "General"-type things and everything checks out - only thing I would like to comment on is if you could reduce the volume on the spinner ends for 01:52:850 (1) and 02:51:580 (1) - the music is literally silent at these parts (so I don't know why the last spinner has clap and whistle...) Regarding the first one, I added green lines to decrease volume each 1/1, following the fade out a bit. The second one is fine (at least the volume), there's that sound at 02:53:932 -. Removed the whistle + clap for this one, though.
Difficulty-specific CommentsCup
- 00:39:917 (2) - I get that you're following the drums, but the synth sound on the white tick 1/2 later is so much more prominent - I feel this circle would be better here at around x-208 It feels really weird ignoring that drum ;_;
- 00:45:917 (3) - ^ and maintain position Yeah, this one is fine, changed.
- 01:10:105 - I assume this is intentionally skipped since it's not a drum sound and gives the player a pause after the denser section at 01:05:230 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) Yeah, both 01:10:105 - and 01:13:105 - are intentionally skipped.
- 01:40:475 (2,1) - I think there should be more spacing here to emphasise the downbeat - a weaker sound at 01:42:350 (1) has 1.13x DS from the previous note, which I feel you should at least match here - I'd move (1) to x-376 and rotate the tail about 15 degrees Done
- 02:30:259 (1) -
I just though you should know that I sneezed whilst testplaying and missed this note - it's annoying to catch and you should remove itLOLSalad
- 01:46:850 (1,2) - What sound are these mapping? (2) starts at 01:47:600 where there's no prominent sound, so I would move it back by 1/2 to 01:47:412 for the start of the second synth sound and the snare drum sound, and then add a circle at 01:47:975 (3) where (2) previously ended They are mapped to a trumpet (or something like that) that's on the background. I made it like this so each diff could have a different focus on this part, increasing the density (i.e. Cup focus on 3/2 drums, Salad on 1/1 trumpet, Platter on 1/2 sounds and Rain on 1/4 sounds)
- 02:13:571 (5,1) - The spacing feels a tiny bit awkward here to me - it's considerably bigger than the spacing for similar notes such as 02:11:472 (2,1) and 02:15:071 (5,1) - I'd move 02:13:384 (4,5) to x-384 Fixed
- 02:17:415 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Starting the stream on a blue tick feels weird to me considering the blue tick isn't particularly prominent compared to the surrounding notes - I'd either add a circle at 02:17:321 or remove 02:17:415 (4) and start on the white tick at 02:17:509 Pending - gonna talk about this on PM
- 02:23:040 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Here it actually fits because (2) is more prominent than both the surrounding 1/4 beats
- 02:23:884 (8,9) - Sure (9) is faint, but I'd have included at least a little movement here... Ok, ok~
- 02:35:696 (3) - I'd replace this with a 1/2 slider, since the synth sound on the white tick is too prominent to leave unmapped in my opinionI prefer to leave it out, both for consistency and for focus on the drums.
Platter
- 01:37:850 (1,2) - I don't really feel the hyper is necessary here, but if you want to keep it, could angle it slightly less? Either move to x-172, or rotate tail 15 degrees anticlockwise Rotated
- 01:52:100 (9) - NC here please, this stream is really long and the fruit stacks up with potential to obscure some fruit in the second half of the stream and spinner Woops, fixed
Collab RainJust want to doublecheck that this diff name is allowed? The announcement that went out when MBC#10 was announced said:Difficulty names must only be the name of the respective difficulty, and nothing else. No ztrot’s Hard or anything comparable.Asked ztrot about this, it's fine (I think that applies for judgement stage to avoid bias), here's the log:2015-08-06 19:02 ZiRoX: yo
2015-08-06 19:02 ZiRoX: idk if Deif asked
2015-08-06 19:03 ZiRoX: but the Rain has contributions from him
2015-08-06 19:05 ZiRoX: so we're wondering if it's possible to name it Collab Rain or something
2015-08-06 19:05 ztrot: yeah
2015-08-06 19:05 ZiRoX: ok, nice!
2015-08-06 19:05 ztrot: do what you need to give proper credit
- 01:20:007 (1) - Nice slider art Pro Dief
- Nothing else to say really, I'm happy with the map as it is \o/
That's literally everything, feel free to call me back.