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Nightmare - Raison d'etre (TV Size)

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Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 10 июля 2010 г. at 22:13:46

Artist: Nightmare
Title: Raison d'etre (TV Size)
Source: Claymore
Tags: clare sadKangaroo mikhe
BPM: 123
Filesize: 3911kb
Play Time: 00:59
Difficulties Available:
  1. Clare (5 stars, 216 notes)
  2. Hard (4,63 stars, 120 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 223 notes)
  4. Mik'Easy (2,27 stars, 55 notes)
  5. SadKangaroo (4,37 stars, 78 notes)
Download: Nightmare - Raison d'etre (TV Size)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Opening Claymore. My favourite song. So this must be beautiful and good map :: )



Brutal Thanks to:
ZLOdeuka
Vikon
Bikko
Beuchi-chan
DJPop
Gens
Alace
minyeob
Mafiamaster

Special Brutal Thanks to:
Clare - Insane difficulty
mikhe - easy difficulty
SadKangaroo - normal difficulty

Abyssal difficulty not rankable. Too insane for you guys
Test your skills:

Download: Nightmare - Raison d'etre (TV Size) (Louis Cyphre) [Abyssal].osu

Download: Nightmare - Raison d'etre (TV Size) (Louis Cyphre) [Abyssal].osu
mikhe
IRC mod

nice map, Star~
(Abyssal diff :twisted:)
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Thanks mikhe~
ZLOdeuka-
[General]
Мне кажется нужно поставить сетку поудобнее - View-> Grid Level.Думаю сойдёт 2 =)

[Abyssal]

00:22:733(2,3) - spacing
00:44:440(3,4) - ^

[Normal]

00:05:599(4) - spacing
00:07:184(2,3) - ^
00:07:550(3,4) - ^
00:22:550(2,3) - ^
00:37:001(3,4) - ^
00:40:660(4,5) - ^
00:43:830(3,4) - ^
00:24:318(1,2,3) - сделай слайдеры длинее на 1шкалу.

[Hard]

Есть проблемы с выравниванием , нужна сетка получше.Выше писала.

00:06:513(1,2,3) - размести с одинаковым расстоянием друг от друга.

00:24:318(1,2,3) - можно сделать 2 слайдер громче 1,а 3 громче их обоих ))

[Abyssal - и сказать то нечего.Это пусть просматривают высшие -_-]


Вобщем...Просматри карту и не ленись.КАК СЛЕДУЕТ!реши проблемы с выравниванием,сеткой.

пока звезду не даю...мне она не нравится из-за балагана в ней )

очень уж всё просто так понатыкано =)

удачи ~
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Исправил.
Giorgos
Молодец!
Xgor
[General]
Why the hell call it (TV Sized) when all the other maps calls it (TV Size).
Change to that. (Also read this before you change)

Backgrounds are too big crop/resize it to 1024x768 for the backgrounds and 800x600 for j7t5fykq9t.png

There is almost no hitsounds (Only some at Abyssal) and the volume setting doesn't make it better.
Add more and raise the volume.

All the tags are pointless except for Clare if Clare mapped a difficulty for this.
Remove them.

416 as a offset makes the offset makes the metronome sound much better

You can follow more that just the vocals 100% precise , The map is awful due to that.

Generally it's a good idea to not use 1/4 exept for streams imo.

[Newbie]
1/4 in a easy, seriously! 1/4 is not that easy and not recommended for an easy
I guess some follow the vocals but I don't think newbies will know that... There is even some that don't even fit, like these.
00:24:684 (2) - Move 1/4 forward on the time line.
00:25:294 (3) - Make 1/4 longer
00:26:269 (4) - ^

Also short repeating slider is zzZZZzzz and half of the map is that...

[Normal]
This is just Newbie with some part changed and improved a tiny bit.
It's still boring.

[Hard]
Better than Newbie and Normal but still are plagued of the stuff I pointed out in General.

00:32:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why does this have so much smaller spacing, why!
00:54:440 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why does this have so much bigger spacing, why!

[Abyssal]
It might be just me but I hate those patterns like this 00:04:562 (1,2)

Why only kiai on this one?

The SB at the end is just annoying :<

00:21:635 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Wth is up with this spacing.

Ok, I can't stand modding this map anymore.... way to much I dislike with it.... (Why did I mod this in the first place)
Vikon
[General]
1) your 3 BGs are 1228x768, better to find a 1024 x 768 instead.

[Newbie]
start a hitobject at blut tick is not suitable for a newbie to play, try to start a hitobject only at red and white tick in this diff.
00:24:318 (1,2,3,4) increase the volume of these notes (what is the meaning of hitting some slience note?)
00:32:245 (1) start at 00:32:367
00:37:245 (3,4) new combo?

[Normal]
the volume is too loud?
00:11:147 (1) add soft-finish on the start and the end of this slider?
00:18:464 useless timing section? or you forgot to make changes?
00:24:318 (1,2,3) increase the volume..?
00:35:538 (2) add clap on every 2 white tick ,start from this note? (e.g. 00:35:538 (2,2) - 00:37:489 (4),00:38:464 and on and on and on..) (you may apply this hitsound pattern on other diff)
00:39:440 if you use the "clap suggestion, add a note with clap here.
00:42:367 (6) add finish Only
00:48:221 (4,5) spacing? (jump is not suitable in [Normal])
00:49:318 (1) finish?

[Hard]
the volume is too loud?
00:05:294 (3,4) spacing?
00:22:611 (6) don't stack with (5) and start 00:22:855 (7) at 00:22:733 ? (it is easy to confuse players as the music is similar but the pattern is different)
00:33:342 (5,6) spacing?
00:38:952 (8) move to 00:38:830?
00:42:367 (5) change clap to finish?
00:48:474 (5) add 1 more back?
00:49:074 (6) move to 00:49:196?

[Abyssal]
1) This is the only diff without using countdown, try to unify it?
2) yes, this is insane, so I can see many notes hard to read (e.g. 00:06:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ) may be it is interesting, but I don't like them.
00:19:684 (2,3,4) - spacing?
00:21:635 (2,3,4) - ^
00:27:733 the volume change is a little bit small, it is hard to let players feel this changes.
00:38:952 (8) - move it to 00:38:830
00:40:660 (6,7,8) - spacing?
00:48:952 add a note here?
00:49:196 (11) start at 00:49:196

Star~
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
thanks~
Clare
Yo~~~~~~~~
my diff~
I love Claymore~
I love Clare~
>"<

Download: normal-hitclap.rar

Download: Nightmare - Raison d'etre (TV Sized) (Louis Cyphre) [Clare].osu
Hamuko

Xgor wrote:

[General]
Why the hell call it (TV Sized) when all the other maps calls it (TV Size).
Change to that. (Also read this before you change)
THANKS :3
Clare
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Difficulty Uploaded. Thanks Clare :: )
Hamuko
you are just ignoring the TV Sized problem because you don't wanna fix or 'cause me and Xgor didn't star your map? '-'
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Oh. I didn't read his post. Because i didn't ask him to mod.
I'll remove "d" from title don't worry. I don't need star from you guys. May be you really don't like this map.
Hamuko
:3
sorry for being a pain in the ass X3
IceBeam
Well,I am too lazy to mod,so here you are~

Download: stuff.rar

Don't miss any file inside,please.

I have no idea what's the difficulty is it,probably hard,but well,name it whatever you want,just don't forget to add me to tags,and difficulty title must contain my nick,so,keep it up in mind.

Good luck =o
mikhe
I have the diff man :D, Mik'Easy :3
and.. this map is for ranked, not for approval not? xD (i remember that you said for approval lol)

Download: Nightmare - Raison d'etre (TV Sized) (Louis Cyphre) [Mik'Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
For ranked. It's TV-sized version.
After that Full version will be submitted for approval.
I wanna get this ranked, not approved :3
Thanks for difficulty mikhe and SadKangaroo. I'll add them. :)
mikhe
Modding~

[General]
Change (Tv Sized) to (Tv Size)
Use this tutorial to change the title or artist: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=24443

[Newbie]
No mistake i think

[Normal]
00:03:343 (1) - Better a slider like this...
00:22:733 (3) - Final it in 00:23:830 (white tick)

[Hard]
00:48:464 (4,5) - Please, less distance between both sliders (1 or 2 grid i think O_o)

[Abyssal]
So confusing @_@, but maybe this fact is because i'm an osu standard noob xD
No mistake i think

[Clare]
00:04:562 (1) - Delete this
00:23:586 (1,2) - Too close??
00:58:952 (6,7) - Fix spacing between both notes, too far.

I have already starred xD (kd~ :3)
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Change (Tv Sized) to (Tv Size)
Fixed

About Normal difficulty. It is deleted and added SadKangaroo's normal difficulty. :3
Anyway thanks man ^_~
Kiddo-Kun

My Mod wrote:

[Mik'Easy]

Some Ugly Sliders In this Diff

00:39:684 (6) - NC

00:41:879 (1) - Remove NC

[SadKangaroo]

Fine.

[Hard]

Fine.

[Abyssal]

Fine.

[Clare]

00:54:928 (9) - NC

00:59:074 (7) - 1 Grid left
STAR
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Bah. Nothing changed.
thanks for taking a look
Garven
As per your request:

[Easy]
00:14:562 (4) - You may as well move it to 00:14:399 (1/3) to go with the vocal. It feels wrong the way it is now.
00:29:928 (2) - Move to 1/3 again. Possibly use a slider for ease of rhythm.
00:32:367 (1,2) - I'd recommend against doing something like this due to a new player not being able to figure out quite when the slider is going to stop repeating.
00:45:294 (1,2) - ^
00:51:147 (1) - Too soon after the spinner. If anything, just delete this and extend the spinner to this point.

[SadK]
The difficulty kind of leaps around in this... it starts off super-easy, then throws jumps in all over the place later on. Maybe try to keep the difficulty a little more consistent? Otherwise, it's fine.

Why is this the only difficulty with the fade in storyboard?

[Hard]
It's so... quiet...
00:27:733 (1) - This would look better as bezier instead of linear.

[Abyssal]
Same comment for the linear slider.
Argh, flashies when I need to concentrate and aim! Ah well, I'd lose without the distraction anyway.

[Clare]
Flashies... I still suck anyway. Can't mod the harder diffs that well, sorry.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Thanks for modding :3
mikhe

Garven wrote:

[Easy]
00:14:562 (4) - You may as well move it to 00:14:399 (1/3) to go with the vocal. It feels wrong the way it is now. Yeah, now sounds better, done.
00:29:928 (2) - Move to 1/3 again. Possibly use a slider for ease of rhythm. Done, but no slider
00:32:367 (1,2) - I'd recommend against doing something like this due to a new player not being able to figure out quite when the slider is going to stop repeating. fixed, but... really, new player can see the approach circle xD, but well, to do easier :3
00:45:294 (1,2) - ^ ^
00:51:147 (1) - Too soon after the spinner. If anything, just delete this and extend the spinner to this point. Oke...
Download: Nightmare - Raison d'etre (TV Size) (Louis Cyphre) [Mik'Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Uploaded.
Bikko
[Mik's Easy]

If you don't mind, use little more farther distance snap for some overapped cicles by 1/2 beat snap. It can makes more looks good note, and almost not effect its actual diffculty.

[SadKangaroo]

I think Its overall is little slower than flow of the note. Increase overall diffculty 1 tick please.

00:42:855 can you place here a note? I know started at 00:43:099 is matched with lyrics of the song, but It's little hard to start this combo exactly right timing if player has no idea about this song.

[Hard]

00:03:708 place here a note. I think It's very unnatural.

00:04:440 place here a note or makes slider 00:04:318 (4) to 00:04:440 if It was not intended. I think It's very unnatural.

00:49:074 (6) missplaced. there is no lyric, no beat. push it to 00:49:194. but end timing of slider is well.

00:50:660 place here a note. or it can be new end timing of slider on 00:49:194.

00:57:997 (2) as you know, melodys of the song on placed 00:57:997, 00:58:221, 00:58:464, 00:58:708. but this slider on 00:57:997 ~ 00:58:464. It's veeeeeery strange to me. I can not concentrate Abyssal and Clare diff. but I think there is same problem.

[Abyssal]

I can not any help this madness.

00:03:708 place here a note.

well.... grrr... I can not concentrate. sorry.

[Clare]

I don't have any motivation for this kind of note. Really sorry, but I'm serious. this note can kill me by heart attack. I can not concentrate.

[About all diff]

I found totaly differnt placed note for same beat. attention 00:30:009(1/3 Beat snap) of Mik'easy diff and 00:30:050 of another diffs. (Clare diff is perfectly wrong on this part, you must modify it. and i think, Clare diff and Abyssal diff are not just hard. they are very unusual note or seriously wrong note. Autoplay of these Diffs are veeery weird on some parts.) one of you guys mistooks, but I'm not sure what is right.


EDIT: I think 00:30:050 is right. there is no reson to use 1/3 beat snap. also, actually I can hear a guitar beat from 00:30:050. not 00:30:009

EDIT: well.. I found it was by garven's modding.... well.... I'm really not sure... but.... I can not belive that is on 1/3. well... you can avoid my opinion. but... It's very hard to understand. hm...

Last EDIT : Probably I'm wrong. my acc is suck, It's mean I don't have talent of timing. but I'm just curious, why garven did not point out 00:30:050 of [SadKangaroo]? and 00:14:399 of [easy] is too... I think 00:14:440 is right. It's mean, just I'm poor noob of timing? If it's true, I really need garven's modding on my map ASSP. maybe terrible timming misses are there. oh my god...


I don't need kudosu. thx.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Thank you Bikko ^_^
IceBeam

Garven wrote:

[SadK]
The difficulty kind of leaps around in this... it starts off super-easy, then throws jumps in all over the place later on. Maybe try to keep the difficulty a little more consistent? Otherwise, it's fine. Yeah,I think so.But well,it was purposely to fill it with so little notes as it possible,but make it a bit fun.So,it's like a jumpy Normal.

Bikko wrote:

[SadKangaroo]

I think Its overall is little slower than flow of the note. Increase overall diffculty 1 tick please. I don't mind.Up to Loui.

00:42:855 can you place here a note? I know started at 00:43:099 is matched with lyrics of the song, but It's little hard to start this combo exactly right timing if player has no idea about this song. Same moment: 00:39:684 (1).Isn't it? :) Well,it's like Normal + or Hard,so I think it fits,thanks for suggestions!
Beuchi
Hi hi!! :)

Here are some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me :P
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Timing is way off imo, might want to double check with someone good at timing =x
- Delete Nightmare and Raison d'etre of Tags.
- Max size for storyboard elements is 800x600px, you'll have to resize your images.
- Make kiai times the same on all diffs.
Skin:
- Just the score numbers? ._. I'd say to, at least, make a hitcircle, but if you're going to leave it like that force the default skin, it looks weird when using other skins.

~Mik's Easy~
- Map the WHOLE SONG. It's only a minute long...

00:22:855 (5) - Fix spacing.

~SadKangaroo~
- Map the WHOLE SONG. It's only a minute long...

00:26:147 (4) - I'd personally delete this note. Up to you, though.

~Hard~
- Add more hitsounds ._.

00:24:318 (1,2,3) - Why are these 3 sliders silent? It feels weird oxo
00:32:611 (2) - Fix Spacing.
00:49:074 (6) - Enlarge to the white tick.
00:53:099 (1) - Fix spacing.
00:54:440 (1) - ^
00:56:391 (1) - ^
00:59:074 (2) - I'd say to stack it under (1).

~Abyssal~
- White hitcircles are really hard to see on this background. Add Storyboard flashes and kiai and it will be a nightmare. Change it, please.
Storyboard:
- Those "flashes" are... ugh x.x. They're way too fast and those last 1/4 flashes are really annoying... :|
- The speed up warning is too fast, in fact, I didn't see it at all when I played it.

00:04:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ._.
00:14:440 (6) - Fix spacing.
00:30:660 (2,3,4) - ^
00:40:050 (2,3,4) - ^
00:42:855 (4) - ^
00:43:099 (1) - What? Fix spacing <_<
00:43:586 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Fix spacing.
From 00:51:147 (1) to 00:57:977 (9) - Fix the whole spacing here. Also, as I already said, the flashes doesn't help to it :/

~Clare~
- White hitcircles are really hard to see on this background. Add Storyboard flashes and kiai and it will be a nightmare. Change it, please.
Storyboard:
- Those "flashes" are... ugh x.x. They're way too fast and those last 1/4 flashes are really annoying... :|
- The speed up warning is too fast, in fact, I didn't see it at all when I played it.

00:23:586 (1,2) - Space them out? It's a bit confusing x.x

Diff spread is a bit... dissapointing. SadKangaroo's diff is supposed to be a Normal but it isn't a Normal at all. And also you have 3 insanes on the mapset (yes, Hard plays like an Insane, the long kickstream isn't easy) so you'll have to remove one of your I or at least make it easier...
Good luck with the map :3
mikhe

Bikko wrote:

[Mik's Easy]

If you don't mind, use little more farther distance snap for some overapped cicles by 1/2 beat snap. It can makes more looks good note, and almost not effect its actual diffculty. Thanks, but i think good now ;3, if some people say too.. i can consider to change

[About all diff]
SPOILER
I found totaly differnt placed note for same beat. attention 00:30:009(1/3 Beat snap) of Mik'easy diff and 00:30:050 of another diffs. (Clare diff is perfectly wrong on this part, you must modify it. and i think, Clare diff and Abyssal diff are not just hard. they are very unusual note or seriously wrong note. Autoplay of these Diffs are veeery weird on some parts.) one of you guys mistooks, but I'm not sure what is right.


EDIT: I think 00:30:050 is right. there is no reson to use 1/3 beat snap. also, actually I can hear a guitar beat from 00:30:050. not 00:30:009

EDIT: well.. I found it was by garven's modding.... well.... I'm really not sure... but.... I can not belive that is on 1/3. well... you can avoid my opinion. but... It's very hard to understand. hm...

Last EDIT : Probably I'm wrong. my acc is suck, It's mean I don't have talent of timing. but I'm just curious, why garven did not point out 00:30:050 of [SadKangaroo]? and 00:14:399 of [easy] is too... I think 00:14:440 is right. It's mean, just I'm poor noob of timing? If it's true, I really need garven's modding on my map ASSP. maybe terrible timming misses are there. oh my god...
Man... the same sound can be catched with a rythm different by different person, it's totally normal... and the change in my map are because Garven said, and i liked them ;3

Beuchi-chan wrote:

~All Diffs~
- Make kiai times the same on all diffs. Ejem... it isn't neccesary beuchi

~Mik's Easy~
- Map the WHOLE SONG. It's only a minute long... I dont want :3

00:22:855 (5) - Fix spacing. Beuchi... 1 grid distance .__., but fixed...
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Skin:
- Just the score numbers? ._. I'd say to, at least, make a hitcircle, but if you're going to leave it like that force the default skin, it looks weird when using other skins.
I'll try to make hit circles :: )

Yes
No
O_o

00:04:562 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ._. - What's wrong? =/
0:14:440 (6) - Fix spacing.
00:30:660 (2,3,4) - ^
00:40:050 (2,3,4) - ^
00:42:855 (4) - ^
00:43:099 (1) - What? Fix spacing <_<
00:43:586 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Fix spacing.
From 00:51:147 (1) to 00:57:977 (9) - Fix the whole spacing here. Also, as I already said, the flashes doesn't help to it :/ <=---- i did it especially :twisted:



00:24:318 (1,2,3) - Why are these 3 sliders silent? It feels weird oxo
00:32:611 (2) - Fix Spacing.
00:49:074 (6) - Enlarge to the white tick.
00:53:099 (1) - Fix spacing.
00:54:440 (1) - ^
00:56:391 (1) - ^
00:59:074 (2) - I'd say to stack it under (1).


- White hitcircles are really hard to see on this background. Add Storyboard flashes and kiai and it will be a nightmare. Change it, please.
White on Black. You can't see? O_o Oke. I'll what will others say ;; )
IceBeam

Beuchi-chan wrote:

~SadKangaroo~
- Map the WHOLE SONG. It's only a minute long... It's like...additional 8 seconds? Is it really that necessary?

00:26:147 (4) - I'd personally delete this note. Up to you, though. No,thanks.That's my favourite note.
IceBeam

Beuchi-chan wrote:

~SadKangaroo~
- Map the WHOLE SONG. It's only a minute long... It's like...additional 8 seconds? Is it really that necessary?

00:26:147 (4) - I'd personally delete this note. Up to you, though. No,thanks.That's my favourite note.
Sorry for double post Dx my net was glitching
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