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byfar

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-07-02T16:38:46+00:00

test1232323xdf12121dfdffdx

sup lol

[toybooty]

00:47:534 (4) - idk i just thought the downward flow of the repeat slider doesnt match the curved slider on the downbeat
should move here:
00:57:584 (3) - imo this part works best without a slider, since you left this part empty (without a slider) in all of the other spots of the map lol
01:30:134 (2) - nc
01:31:034 (1) - nc lol
01:32:234 (3) - nc
01:32:834 (1) - remove nc
01:45:434 (3) - nc
01:46:634 (2) - nc asd
01:52:634 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - wh is this safe for the spread. 8 200 bpm single taps after a quintuplet asd
03:02:534 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same ^
theres quite a bit of 1/4s in this diff compared to the hard. the hard has a lot 1/1 sliders as well ehh i'm kinda concerned about the spread here

[frey]

00:39:434 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this flowed quite poorly imo,

00:37:034 (1,2,3,4) - ^ this linear flow doesnt quite fit imo

01:58:934 (2,3,4,5) - this felt really weird cuz of the extended slider.. change up the pattern a little maybe? like i feel like i have to make a jerky motion with my pen, same with before.

01:54:734 (6,7) - bleh

create a jump to 01:56:834 (4) - by moving this circle a little upwards?

example

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-07-02T17:59:18+00:00

byfar wrote:
[frey]

00:39:434 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this flowed quite poorly imo,
Maybe it just looks poor in edit

00:37:034 (1,2,3,4) - ^ this linear flow doesnt quite fit imo
Well, I'll appreciate it if there is a solution

01:58:934 (2,3,4,5) - this felt really weird cuz of the extended slider.. change up the pattern a little maybe? like i feel like i have to make a jerky motion with my pen, same with before.
OK. I see the point. You are a tablet user, and I am a mouse user. Sometimes in some maps, mouse plays well while tablet are not. I can"t take account of both, sorry, I choose the mouse way

01:54:734 (6,7) - bleh
it's safe, and I guarantee that's playable

create a jump to 01:56:834 (4) - by moving this circle a little upwards?
why jump? I can't hear a downbeat or something strong either

Thanks for your advice!

byfar

1,186 posts

Joined July 2014

byfar 2015-07-03T01:17:25+00:00

Frey wrote:
byfar wrote:
[frey]

00:39:434 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this flowed quite poorly imo,
Maybe it just looks poor in edit
perhaps you should increase spacing to 00:40:334 (5) - and decrease the spacing to 00:40:484 (6) - . because there is a ringing sound on the white tick, the emphasis is therefore on the white tick, maybe it doesnt flow poorly but it plays weirdly to the music
00:37:034 (1,2,3,4) - ^ this linear flow doesnt quite fit imo
Well, I'll appreciate it if there is a solution
maybe move 00:37:484 (3) - downwards a little like
this

01:58:934 (2,3,4,5) - this felt really weird cuz of the extended slider.. change up the pattern a little maybe? like i feel like i have to make a jerky motion with my pen, same with before.
OK. I see the point. You are a tablet user, and I am a mouse user. Sometimes in some maps, mouse plays well while tablet are not. I can"t take account of both, sorry, I choose the mouse way
i sometimes play with mouse too, but it still plays kinda ehh idk. like the spacing suddenly turns so small.. 01:58:634 (1) - this slider has an upward motion and i felt the flow onto the trapezoid wasnt too particularly great either. maybe you should use 1.1x or 1.2x or altogether rearrange the pattern a little

01:54:734 (6,7) - bleh
it's safe, and I guarantee that's playable
yeah i guess, 2nd try it was ok

create a jump to 01:56:834 (4) - by moving this circle a little upwards?
why jump? I can't hear a downbeat or something strong either
well you made a jump here 02:01:634 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - too and that has no downbeat either,
Thanks for your advice!

responses in red

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-07-03T07:59:43+00:00

byfar wrote:

Having seen your responses, I think I would still keep my point.
The most impotant thing is, what I made is an Extra. That means I have to create something difficult to make it harder.
If everything goes fine and smooth, for me, which can't be called an Extra.

Thanks for your reponses

OmegaR

82 posts

Joined May 2014

OmegaR 2015-07-03T12:47:13+00:00

Why no more Four Dimensions? ;-;

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2015-07-03T13:16:00+00:00

mmk i did everything except the NCs since they're all intentional

i did one of them tho

yea

https://0paste.tk/7660.txt

Asphyxia

osu! Alumni

1,986 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Asphyxia 2015-07-03T13:18:12+00:00

Wookiezi wrote:
Why no more Four Dimensions? ;-;

I wanted to change it for a long time, actually. The thing is, the whole ''FOUR DIMENSIONS'' thing is BMS-related, or so I've heard, and considering this song is not from BMS or has any relation to it, it wouldn't make sense for me to keep it. But I'll see... who knows what happens before this will get qualified

Actually I just changed it back since a lot of ppl wanted the 4D diff name back and it's cool so ye hf

Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Illyasviel 2015-07-04T07:38:44+00:00

hvick225 played (FOUR DIMENSIONS) and failed. Unrankeable!

ComfyWolf

181 posts

Joined April 2015

ComfyWolf 2015-07-04T16:04:17+00:00

[XV] wrote:
hvick225 played (FOUR DIMENSIONS) and failed. Unrankeable!

It's nowhere near unrankable, I know of many players who can do this.

Asphyxia

osu! Alumni

1,986 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Asphyxia 2015-07-04T16:36:41+00:00

[XV] wrote:
hvick225 played (FOUR DIMENSIONS) and failed. Unrankeable!

I don't think hvick225's strong side is streaming so there's that.

OmegaR

82 posts

Joined May 2014

OmegaR 2015-07-04T23:55:24+00:00

Asphyxia wrote:
[XV] wrote:
hvick225 played (FOUR DIMENSIONS) and failed. Unrankeable!
I don't think hvick225's strong side is streaming so there's that.

End is easily failable, like FD4D, it's fine.

Illyasviel

218 posts

Joined July 2013

Illyasviel 2015-07-05T04:16:55+00:00

Guys please, i was being silly. The map is great.

Mystia

16 posts

Joined April 2014

Mystia 2015-07-08T19:21:36+00:00

burst stream =/= death stream

pls

Kotori-Chan

496 posts

Joined February 2014

Kotori-Chan 2015-07-08T20:38:36+00:00

pls ranked pls ranked pls ranked pls ranked

RANKED WHEN DDDD:!?!?!??!

love that map~

>w</

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

2,144 posts

Joined August 2014

Nathan 2015-07-10T01:21:24+00:00

I haven't forgotten btw =w=

[ktgster's Extreme]

00:28:634 (1) - I would've placed this repeat on 00:28:334 - so the player can start the stream on the re-entrance of the piano instead of on 00:28:934 (2) which feels a bit random
01:28:034 (2) - Nazi, but this red point looks out of place considering every slider in this section had a normal curve lol
01:37:934 (13,15) - I'd use 1/4 sliders here, feels like these beats are lacking emphasis blended in with a stream, or just 1/2 circle jumps
02:29:834 (4) - I think you forgot a NC here
02:29:834 (4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You've grouped these jumps in pairs but 02:29:984 (5,1) 02:30:284 (2,1) 02:30:584 (2,1) are lower in spacing compared to 02:29:834 (4,5) 02:30:134 (1,2) 02:30:434 (1,2), shouldn't the jumps from red tick to white tick be larger? 02:28:634 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - you did it here so
03:02:234 (1,1) - rip colorhax? don't see anything in the sb

[RLC's Extra]

01:31:035 (1) - Surprised you didn't use 2 2/1 sliders here, 01:32:234 - should really be emphasized

[Frey's Extra]

02:28:934 (3,4,1) - Linear flow with different spacings is difficult to snap on, try changing the pattern into something with more directional change
03:48:884 (6,1) - Weird decrease in spacing considering there's a high pitched sound on 03:49:034 (1)

will continue later

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-07-10T03:31:23+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
[Frey's Extra]
02:28:934 (3,4,1) - Linear flow with different spacings is difficult to snap on, try changing the pattern into something with more directional change
no, I just meant to make a symmetry on purpose. which looks nice
03:48:884 (6,1) - Weird decrease in spacing considering there's a high pitched sound on 03:49:034 (1)
OK, increase the DS

is my part finished? anyway, thanks for modding!

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mithew

393 posts

Joined April 2013

mithew 2015-07-11T20:17:08+00:00

Wookiezi wrote:

End is easily failable, like FD4D, it's fine.

i wouldn't consider image material stamina draining, not a good example to use

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2015-07-12T22:50:48+00:00

haha you know what I should do I should make a map with like 20 diffs for a 4:13 song im sure everyone will love that you know how the kids love their long songs these days

FOUR SEASONS BAR AND GRILL:
00:10:034 (5) - NC like there's so much blank space like help a bro out
00:21:434 (1) - Susan don't smother my face like that (aka this overlap really sucks please do not do that)
01:16:034 (2) - Same thing with the blank space
01:18:434 (2) - mother she lives so far how will I make it to grandma's on time
01:20:834 (3) - ^ (and rather than artificially making my mod longer, I'll just say assume this for any other instance of this.)
02:33:734 (2) - Considering this is the first jump in a LONG time, I'd suggest making it slightly easier to achieve. Even though this is the start of a kiai section, it seems kind of jerky, and the next note is kind of in my peripheral vision rather than my immediate vision, so I'm just like "ugggh"

Thanks for not making the streams garbage

ktg:
02:35:534 - Like it's cool this rhythm and all but I really don't like how the hitsound flow is messed up. There's a constant pulse that's motivating players to continually move and it's awkwardly stopped here

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03:02:234 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - When bae forgets to do the custom combocolors

accept my FB friend request pls RLC:
Even if I have nothing to say like tbh these hitsounds are amazing good job on that. I'm a sucker for good hitsounds.
01:35:835 (1,2) - To not screw up the flow, a slider may be good here. Otherwise it's just like "uhhh wow ok i sure hope I don't need any momentum to hit another long stream
02:07:035 (1) - Ok so it actually does sound kinda cool but like i'm contractually obligated to say "please change this to something more creative"

Frey:
01:16:034 (2,3,4,5) - What a beautiful shape

Hard:
00:09:284 - its in these lonely times that I realize just how truly fucked up my life is

Everything else is chillin.

good job not making shitty maps

Nathan

Beatmap Nominator

2,144 posts

Joined August 2014

Nathan 2015-07-14T19:34:06+00:00

ok nvm about continuing my mod I'll just recheck after responses and update

one thing though on Frey's extra, are you sure about 1/8 gaps in spots like 00:50:084 (9,1) - 00:30:884 (9,1) and 00:21:284 (8,1)?
even if they're coming from repeats, it just seems unnecessary especially at 200 bpm and might cause a few annoying sliderbreaks

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-07-15T14:05:14+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
ok nvm about continuing my mod I'll just recheck after responses and update

one thing though on Frey's extra, are you sure about 1/8 gaps in spots like 00:50:084 (9,1) - 00:30:884 (9,1) and 00:21:284 (8,1)?
even if they're coming from repeats, it just seems unnecessary especially at 200 bpm and might cause a few annoying sliderbreaks

yes, I am sure that there won't be any trouble.

It's an Extra I think it's ok, and I can fc this part too.

Asphyxia

osu! Alumni

1,986 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Asphyxia 2015-07-15T14:43:01+00:00

Will check mods soon, I'm waiting for few other mods, especially for the easier ones to assure they're fine.

ktgster

Elite Mapper

481 posts

Joined November 2008

ktgster 2015-07-15T18:33:16+00:00

sukiNathan

sukiNathan wrote:
[ktgster's Extreme]
00:28:634 (1) - I would've placed this repeat on 00:28:334 - so the player can start the stream on the re-entrance of the piano instead of on 00:28:934 (2) which feels a bit random - fixed
01:28:034 (2) - Nazi, but this red point looks out of place considering every slider in this section had a normal curve lol - well it's 1/3 so I might as well keep it
01:37:934 (13,15) - I'd use 1/4 sliders here, feels like these beats are lacking emphasis blended in with a stream, or just 1/2 circle jumps - no jump here, but removed the 2 notes
02:29:834 (4) - I think you forgot a NC here - fixed
02:29:834 (4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You've grouped these jumps in pairs but 02:29:984 (5,1) 02:30:284 (2,1) 02:30:584 (2,1) are lower in spacing compared to 02:29:834 (4,5) 02:30:134 (1,2) 02:30:434 (1,2), shouldn't the jumps from red tick to white tick be larger? 02:28:634 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - you did it here so - k pattern sucked so I just changed it
03:02:234 (1,1) - rip colorhax? don't see anything in the sb - fixed

Reditum/CDFA

Reditum wrote:
haha you know what I should do I should make a map with like 20 diffs for a 4:13 song im sure everyone will love that you know how the kids love their long songs these days - wow CDFA, y u change name

ktg:
02:35:534 - Like it's cool this rhythm and all but I really don't like how the hitsound flow is messed up. There's a constant pulse that's motivating players to continually move and it's awkwardly stopped here . - k fixed like every similar sound
03:02:234 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - When bae forgets to do the custom combocolors - *cough*

good job not making shitty maps

http://puu.sh/j0lRs.osu

gervin51

22 posts

Joined December 2012

gervin51 2015-07-16T02:46:54+00:00

Maybe you can add a bit more on the jumps. The start will be jumping while the next is streaming. I recommend using hexagons or octagons.

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,911 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2015-07-23T03:05:53+00:00

[Easy]
uhh would consider muting the sliderslide in both samplesets used because the long sliders can become kind of annoying to listen to?
00:47:834 (1) - 01:08:234 (1) - after seeing the krfawy dq i don't know if you qat people won't conclude that this slider can be confusing for beginners because it partly overlaps itself etc etc
01:52:634 (1,1) - these 2 overlapping doesn't look that nice and can be easily avoided so uhhm
02:51:134 - does this miss hitsounds? it kinda sounds like it does

[akaphyxia]
01:46:484 (2,3) - 01:48:884 (2,3) - these were meh because they are the only direct stacks in this whole diff and due to the ar being so low most people could get the idea to press both keys if they can't read it so uhh would unstack or something
02:49:634 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - 02:49:634 (4,5,1) - can easily throw you off while playing and then 02:51:134 (2) - is also a bit ugh because sliderend is so much stronger than its head http://puu.sh/iQfAR/ef27b51dd3.jpg would work better imo

[Hard]
00:11:084 (2,3) - jump into stack was kind of sudden and you don't really do that stuff much in the rest of the diff so would consider nerfing this one
00:52:634 (1) - even though it's blue and stuff about half of it is also hidden under that one slider and can be a bit confusing, would at least consider something custom made like 00:18:434 (3,3) -
01:36:584 (2,3,4) - 01:41:384 (2,3,4) - i think a triplet is a bit too intense for this part and has potential to ruin a bit of the atmosphere here, but maybe that's just me

[toybot]
03:02:234 - onward why is this blue and inverted i don't understand like all the color haxing past this point is fucked
03:42:434 (1) - can you have the sliderball not move slightly backwards
04:01:634 (1,2) - these sound over the top, 1/4 ones would probably sound better :/

[RLC Insane]
uhh break things are inconsistent with your extra because you mapped the part after the first kiai in here but didn't in extra (just mentioning this because p/4307653)
01:04:634 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - (long link yes) i think this part is contrary to 02:28:634 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - , which is the same thing but leading into a kiai using a lot of circles making it easier for insane players to actually notelock on, especially on stacks like 01:05:234 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - which have a lot of spacing afterwards, could be unpleasant for the actual target audience most of this diff is mapped for. might take that into consideration at least
02:35:084 (5) - should the bigger spacing not be from 5->6 instead of 4->5 ? that would highlight 6 better
02:36:884 (5,1) - same thing happens to a few other places as well i think, would be a waste of time to go over your diff for you pointing out the same thing a lot and then you disagree with the first mention for reasons, so if you think it's worth doing or should be done, then do it yourself to the places you think should have it
03:40:484 (1,1,1) - it could be a bit confusing to read these if they stack perfectly, or that's just me, at least i found these surprising because of that

[Frey's Extra]
00:25:634 (4,5,6,7,8) - things like this and maybe also 00:40:034 (3,4,5,6) - could use more space to highlight the sudden change in intensity in this song better? if there's similar stuff like this and you decide to do these 2 you should do that there as well to avoid going to nonsense
01:05:384 (2,3,4) - idk i don't hink im the only person who thinks that this kind of hiigh to low spacing transition plays jerky, could possibly be less jerky if it had less spacing in this combo
01:24:734 (2,4) - 01:29:534 (5,1) - i don't think the song really warrants these 2 spots to be filled with circles, the other diffs kind of agree with me on that, i can understand wh y you'd fill the next part with more circles becuase it has more background sounds that are noticable, but here it just destroys the atmosphere to an extend imo
01:35:834 (6,1) - and all the other following are so hard to comprehend that they're some other rhythm compared to the 2/3 stuff before, how about jsut sticking to a 3/2 slider for this and the other instances of that pattern
01:57:209 (7,2) - you could also try to avoid small overlaps like this throughout the diff because it would most likely look a tiny bit cleaner
03:11:684 (8,1) - there are also a few places like this where emphasis could be screwed up, consider the spacing you did for the same thing in 03:05:534 (6,1) - 03:08:084 (7,1) - 03:09:284 (7,1) - and look at this and some other instances throughout the map where the focus could be distorted by smaller spacing or higher spacing than expected

[RLC Apex OD 8.5 AR 9.2]
due to tickrate 2 the 1/3 sliders used in 01:16:034 (1) - might have wrongly snapped sliderticks (p/4314004 reference that this could be issue) so using tickrate 1 for it might be safer besides your other diff also uses that tickrate, idk
01:40:260 (11) - isn't this offsync if you put a whistle on it while music is 2/3 stuff? i mean its minor but theoretically the whistles don't fit 100%
02:35:235 (5,6) - are whistles on ends intentional, they sound additive instead of just being there (o well pretty sure they're intentional, but i still think this would sound a bit better without spamming whistlesso much)

[]

ehh sorry for cutting rlc's diff so short but it's barely on the level i can play right now because my stamina is complete garbage

also the gray bg just goes to complete darkness before the mp3 actually ends, might wanna fix this for cinema mod reasons - and it's so minor
lol

ok then bye

Frey

1,205 posts

Joined February 2011

Frey 2015-07-23T10:15:54+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
[Frey's Extra]
00:25:634 (4,5,6,7,8) - things like this and maybe also 00:40:034 (3,4,5,6) - could use more space to highlight the sudden change in intensity in this song better? if there's similar stuff like this and you decide to do these 2 you should do that there as well to avoid going to nonsense
Alright, increase space of 00:40:334 (5,6,1) -

01:05:384 (2,3,4) - idk i don't hink im the only person who thinks that this kind of hiigh to low spacing transition plays jerky, could possibly be less jerky if it had less spacing in this combo
fixed

01:24:734 (2,4) - 01:29:534 (5,1) - i don't think the song really warrants these 2 spots to be filled with circles, the other diffs kind of agree with me on that, i can understand wh y you'd fill the next part with more circles becuase it has more background sounds that are noticable, but here it just destroys the atmosphere to an extend imo
I think I just wanted to make map more playable, and I was on purpose to map it. I want to let players know that the rhythm is gradually getting stronger

01:35:834 (6,1) - and all the other following are so hard to comprehend that they're some other rhythm compared to the 2/3 stuff before, how about jsut sticking to a 3/2 slider for this and the other instances of that pattern
not really sure, waiting for more suggestion

01:57:209 (7,2) - you could also try to avoid small overlaps like this throughout the diff because it would most likely look a tiny bit cleaner
however it dosen't have any influence on the in-game experience

03:11:684 (8,1) - there are also a few places like this where emphasis could be screwed up, consider the spacing you did for the same thing in 03:05:534 (6,1) - 03:08:084 (7,1) - 03:09:284 (7,1) - and look at this and some other instances throughout the map where the focus could be distorted by smaller spacing or higher spacing than expected
Fixed

Thanks for modding!

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przepson

268 posts

Joined December 2014

przepson 2015-07-23T16:01:06+00:00

Great map :3
Must be ranked :3

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

toybot 2015-07-25T02:42:55+00:00

hi dad

Okoratu wrote:
[toybot]
03:02:234 - onward why is this blue and inverted i don't understand like all the color haxing past this point is fucked - rip

ok then bye

fixed all, thanks! https://0paste.tk/7728.txt

Asphyxia

osu! Alumni

1,986 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Asphyxia 2015-07-25T02:56:50+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
I haven't forgotten btw =w=

[RLC's Extra]
01:31:035 (1) - Surprised you didn't use 2 2/1 sliders here, 01:32:234 - should really be emphasized done

Reditum wrote:
haha you know what I should do I should make a map with like 20 diffs for a 4:13 song im sure everyone will love that you know how the kids love their long songs these days

FOUR SEASONS BAR AND GRILL:
00:10:034 (5) - NC like there's so much blank space like help a bro out ya did
00:21:434 (1) - Susan don't smother my face like that (aka this overlap really sucks please do not do that) the overlap is fully intentional and I love it so ya keepin' it
01:16:034 (2) - Same thing with the blank space
01:18:434 (2) - mother she lives so far how will I make it to grandma's on time
01:20:834 (3) - ^ (and rather than artificially making my mod longer, I'll just say assume this for any other instance of this.) didn't do NCs here since it'd ruin how I managed the combos here
02:33:734 (2) - Considering this is the first jump in a LONG time, I'd suggest making it slightly easier to achieve. Even though this is the start of a kiai section, it seems kind of jerky, and the next note is kind of in my peripheral vision rather than my immediate vision, so I'm just like "ugggh" hmm, will consider this more. the map is overall pretty hard, and a jump out of the blue from those high spaced streams aren't exactly an issue, especially because that slider is blanketed with the stream nicely

Thanks for not making the streams garbage

accept my FB friend request pls RLC:
Even if I have nothing to say like tbh these hitsounds are amazing good job on that. I'm a sucker for good hitsounds.
01:35:835 (1,2) - To not screw up the flow, a slider may be good here. Otherwise it's just like "uhhh wow ok i sure hope I don't need any momentum to hit another long stream hmm, it'd make this section more inconsistent so I'd rather not
02:07:035 (1) - Ok so it actually does sound kinda cool but like i'm contractually obligated to say "please change this to something more creative" but it's interesting!

Hard:
00:09:284 - its in these lonely times that I realize just how truly fucked up my life is you didnt see anything

Everything else is chillin.

good job not making shitty maps

gervin51 wrote:
Maybe you can add a bit more on the jumps. The start will be jumping while the next is streaming. I recommend using hexagons or octagons.

Not exactly sure what you mean? The thing is, I already reduced some of the jumps' spacing because they were dominating the map overall (according to the feedback I got from players), so that would ruin it again so I'd rather not for now

Okoratu wrote:
[Easy]
uhh would consider muting the sliderslide in both samplesets used because the long sliders can become kind of annoying to listen to?
00:47:834 (1) - 01:08:234 (1) - after seeing the krfawy dq i don't know if you qat people won't conclude that this slider can be confusing for beginners because it partly overlaps itself etc etc
01:52:634 (1,1) - these 2 overlapping doesn't look that nice and can be easily avoided so uhhm
02:51:134 - does this miss hitsounds? it kinda sounds like it does fixed everything else except slider mute thingies, imo fine

[akaphyxia]
01:46:484 (2,3) - 01:48:884 (2,3) - these were meh because they are the only direct stacks in this whole diff and due to the ar being so low most people could get the idea to press both keys if they can't read it so uhh would unstack or something okay
02:49:634 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - 02:49:634 (4,5,1) - can easily throw you off while playing and then 02:51:134 (2) - is also a bit ugh because sliderend is so much stronger than its head http://puu.sh/iQfAR/ef27b51dd3.jpg would work better imo I feel like the current rhythm compliments the music better, and it doesn't leave the 2/1 (?) gap there like in your suggestions, to the constant 1/1 and 1/2 rhythm feels more natural

[Hard]
00:11:084 (2,3) - jump into stack was kind of sudden and you don't really do that stuff much in the rest of the diff so would consider nerfing this one nerfed a tad
00:52:634 (1) - even though it's blue and stuff about half of it is also hidden under that one slider and can be a bit confusing, would at least consider something custom made like 00:18:434 (3,3) - ran a couple of tests and it was fine imo, since the hitburst leaves just before the actual slider appears
01:36:584 (2,3,4) - 01:41:384 (2,3,4) - i think a triplet is a bit too intense for this part and has potential to ruin a bit of the atmosphere here, but maybe that's just me would feel too empty without it though, so keeping 'em for now :c

[RLC Insane]
uhh break things are inconsistent with your extra because you mapped the part after the first kiai in here but didn't in extra (just mentioning this because p/4307653) k fixed
01:04:634 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - (long link yes) i think this part is contrary to 02:28:634 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - , which is the same thing but leading into a kiai using a lot of circles making it easier for insane players to actually notelock on, especially on stacks like 01:05:234 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - which have a lot of spacing afterwards, could be unpleasant for the actual target audience most of this diff is mapped for. might take that into consideration at least hmm okay, I added few sliders to the first one to balance things out properly
02:35:084 (5) - should the bigger spacing not be from 5->6 instead of 4->5 ? that would highlight 6 better feel like this is fine playability-wise
02:36:884 (5,1) - same thing happens to a few other places as well i think, would be a waste of time to go over your diff for you pointing out the same thing a lot and then you disagree with the first mention for reasons, so if you think it's worth doing or should be done, then do it yourself to the places you think should have it ^
03:40:484 (1,1,1) - it could be a bit confusing to read these if they stack perfectly, or that's just me, at least i found these surprising because of that considering the level of this Insane, having some complex patterns here and there doesn't hurt imo

[RLC Apex OD 8.5 AR 9.2]
due to tickrate 2 the 1/3 sliders used in 01:16:034 (1) - might have wrongly snapped sliderticks (p/4314004 reference that this could be issue) so using tickrate 1 for it might be safer besides your other diff also uses that tickrate, idk fixed
01:40:260 (11) - isn't this offsync if you put a whistle on it while music is 2/3 stuff? i mean its minor but theoretically the whistles don't fit 100% fixed
02:35:235 (5,6) - are whistles on ends intentional, they sound additive instead of just being there (o well pretty sure they're intentional, but i still think this would sound a bit better without spamming whistlesso much) yeah they sound good to me so keeping them

[]

ehh sorry for cutting rlc's diff so short but it's barely on the level i can play right now because my stamina is complete garbage

also the gray bg just goes to complete darkness before the mp3 actually ends, might wanna fix this for cinema mod reasons - and it's so minor
lol

ok then bye

Thanks for the mods, guys!

Appreciate it~

przepson wrote:
Great map :3
Must be ranked :3

Thanks!

Everything should be updated. And for anyone that is worried or just generally disagrees with this map in any way; yes, it's mean't to be this streamy since it's aimed to be a stream map. I see this song being mapped like this, so if you don't like streams, this map isn't necessarily for you.

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Nathan 2015-07-25T16:46:20+00:00

blue cheese burrito

just got rid of a spinner in easy and normal that lacked recovery time

Asphyxia

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Asphyxia 2015-07-25T16:47:40+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
blue cheese burrito

just got rid of a spinner in easy and normal that lacked recovery time

Wee, thanks so much sukiNathan! <3

Pls don't qualify this without my permission first @BNs

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Xilver15 2015-07-25T21:44:54+00:00

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Asphyxia

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Asphyxia 2015-07-26T00:33:51+00:00

Somehow, a pattern in RLC's Extra got removed, no idea how. Also, thanks to byfar, I fixed 2 things in RLC's Insane so now it plays better and all that cool stuff

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Nathan 2015-07-26T00:36:37+00:00

woops

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DeletedUser_4329079 2015-07-26T00:38:54+00:00

Re-hype

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2015-07-26T22:18:57+00:00

[Four Dimensions]

01:07:784 (2,3) - Swap these two in timeline? Would flow a bit better going into 1 imo.
01:09:509 (1) - Is there a reason for ending the spinner here? Ending on 01:09:509 (1) - sounds better imo since there's actually a sound you can hitsound the spinner's end to.
01:46:484 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing is quite misleading with this pattern. both 1/2's and 1/1's using basically the same spacing. One possible solution is NC'ing 01:46:934 (3) -
01:47:234 (4) - This should be 1/3.
01:50:234 (1,2,3) - Same here, but at least there is less overlap.
02:13:859 (12,13,14,15,16,1) - Last part of this stream kinda lacks any shape. Meh, just pointing it out in case~
02:46:259 (12,13,14) - This is seriously too sharp ;c. I liked what you did with 02:41:984 (3,4,5) - a lot better lol. You don't use something this 180 degree change anywhere else in your map .

[ktg's Extreme]

02:42:734 (1,2) - Wow this kills so much momentum :C you sure about this???

[RLC's Extra]

04:08:384 (1) - Only thing I want to point out is the spinner begins on a red tick while on every other diff besides Easy/Normal the spinner is on 04:08:309 - . Maybe you want to change that for consistency? idk.

[Frey's Extra]

01:08:909 (4,6) - These are really difficult to land without releasing off the 1/8 sliders too early and getting 100's xPP.
02:28:034 (1) - This NC doesn't seem necessary imo. Beat doesn't pick up until 02:28:334 -

[RLC's Insane]

01:47:434 (4,5) - Can you double-check snapping here for me?
02:51:284 (1,2,3) - Larger jump from 2>3 would make more sense with the pitch increase.
04:08:384 (1) - Same as RLC's Extra if you wanna start the spinner earlier on blue tick.

[toybot's Insane]

02:39:734 (2,3,4) - Might want to space out the DS from 3>4 just a bit more, since there is a 3/4 gap in between
03:49:634 (3,4) - ^

[Hard]

HP 6 is a jump from Normal. I think 5 would be better, considering toybot's Insane is also HP 6.
OD 7 is too high imo... I think 6 would function a lot better and provide better balance between Normal's OD4 and toybot's Insane's OD 7.
01:09:509 (1,1) - If you changed something with the spinner in Four Dimensions, be sure to fix it here too.

[Akaphyxia's Normal]

Some parts are quite dense in Kiai time like say 02:46:034 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - . I think AR 5.5 would be better on this diff.

[Easy]

May want to move the AR to 3.5.

hype hype hype

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toybot 2015-07-27T04:51:50+00:00

thx mom strata

https://0paste.tk/7735.txt

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ktgster 2015-07-27T05:13:07+00:00

monstrata wrote:
[ktg's Extreme]
02:42:734 (1,2) - Wow this kills so much momentum :C you sure about this??? - yes, I heard no complaints and the combo colours indicate the slowdown plus once you know, its not as bad

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Frey 2015-07-27T05:45:45+00:00

monstrata wrote:
[Frey's Extra]

01:08:909 (4,6) - These are really difficult to land without releasing off the 1/8 sliders too early and getting 100's xPP.
not really, I can fc this part, just think them two double clicks.
02:28:034 (1) - This NC doesn't seem necessary imo. Beat doesn't pick up until 02:28:334 -
well, I was told to NC with the Storyboard. So it make more sense if you play it with sb on

Thank for modding!

Asphyxia

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Asphyxia 2015-07-27T07:15:35+00:00

~~Will check the mod soon, thanks! Will edit this post for replies and such.~~

~~Self-reminder: 03:34:634 - nerrrrrrrrrrrf~~

monstrata wrote:
[Four Dimensions]

01:07:784 (2,3) - Swap these two in timeline? Would flow a bit better going into 1 imo. Sure!
01:09:509 (1) - Is there a reason for ending the spinner here? Ending on 01:09:509 (1) - sounds better imo since there's actually a sound you can hitsound the spinner's end to. Hmm, sure
01:46:484 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing is quite misleading with this pattern. both 1/2's and 1/1's using basically the same spacing. One possible solution is NC'ing 01:46:934 (3) - Talked in-game about this. Anyone who is capable of playing such a difficulty, they should be able to read that rhythm change due to the fast AR
01:47:234 (4) - This should be 1/3. Fixed
01:50:234 (1,2,3) - Same here, but at least there is less overlap. ^
02:13:859 (12,13,14,15,16,1) - Last part of this stream kinda lacks any shape. Meh, just pointing it out in case~ Talked about this as well, it's just a copied ver. of the previous thingy
02:46:259 (12,13,14) - This is seriously too sharp ;c. I liked what you did with 02:41:984 (3,4,5) - a lot better lol. You don't use something this 180 degree change anywhere else in your map . Ah talked about this one as well. I looked how ppl handle those bends, and most of the ppl who can play this can do it fine imo
[RLC's Extra]

04:08:384 (1) - Only thing I want to point out is the spinner begins on a red tick while on every other diff besides Easy/Normal the spinner is on 04:08:309 - . Maybe you want to change that for consistency? idk. Fix
[RLC's Insane]

01:47:434 (4,5) - Can you double-check snapping here for me? Checked and should be okay; slider starts on the melody, and ends on the strong, main beat
02:51:284 (1,2,3) - Larger jump from 2>3 would make more sense with the pitch increase. Blankets tho
04:08:384 (1) - Same as RLC's Extra if you wanna start the spinner earlier on blue tick. Yup fixed
[Hard]

HP 6 is a jump from Normal. I think 5 would be better, considering toybot's Insane is also HP 6.
OD 7 is too high imo... I think 6 would function a lot better and provide better balance between Normal's OD4 and toybot's Insane's OD 7.
01:09:509 (1,1) - If you changed something with the spinner in Four Dimensions, be sure to fix it here too. Fixed everything
[Akaphyxia's Normal]

Some parts are quite dense in Kiai time like say 02:46:034 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - . I think AR 5.5 would be better on this diff. Sure!
[Easy]

May want to move the AR to 3.5. Done
hype hype hype

Thanks! Should be fully updated now!

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2015-07-28T01:30:24+00:00

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