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Raediaufar wrote:

What I listed here is mostly about hand balance and wrong snaps, I think this map need a lot of revision. And yeah, it's pretty awkward since your mod in my map is really good :/

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00:00:203 – set your preview point here I'd like to keep my current preview point as it's a fitting intro in my opinion

00:00:560 – to - 00:10:560 – map this part please I want the map to start when the vocal begin, no thanks

Remove Tiara and be with you at tags because you’ve already add them in the title sure, fixed

Sampleset > Soft, much better for this kind of song I intentionally made it with normal sampleset first so the beats can be detects and much apparent during modding. I will only change it back to soft once I deemed the difficulty is good to go And, yes obviously Soft should be use for this kind of song, yes?

Add some hitsound to your map this are to be done once I deemed the map are good to go, as of now my map need modding and fixing, not this yet

Normal has "E" icon and Hard has "N" icon? This is a slow-paced song with slow bpm, I'm considering not to over-map this song, that's why being this kind of song it can't be help on having lesser star than you thought. I've also discussed on this matter with others and it seems that it is okay to have such icons despite its difficulty, as long it's within acceptable range of difficulty spread

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00:20:382 (20382|1,20560|2) – considering to make this spread, it’s more easier for novice player to tap it (it’s up to you how to make this spread, but remember about hand balance) yes, you are right. Fixed, and remapped some

00:22:703 (22703|2,22882|1,23060|0) – this as well Fixed, and do some remap

00:56:989 (56989|1) – make this double I can't because if I did, 00:57:346 (57346|6,57346|2,57703|3,57703|5) - will lose it's meaning with having 2 notes. I had to avoid the notes contradicting due to the sound loudness it represents, especially when they're next to each other

01:08:775 (68775|6,68953|5,69132|4) – this stair also, make it spread Fixed

01:25:917 (85917|0,86096|1,86275|2) - ^ fixed, and do some remap
01:28:775 (88775|0,88953|1,89132|2) - ^ (and also, for the next similar stair pattern because I won’t mention again (too much ;_; )) Fixed, you made a good point, though I'm keeping stairs like 01:11:632 (71632|3,71810|4,71989|5) - for variation purposes
01:42:525 (102525|3,102703|4) – Ctrl + G no thanks, but i do something entirely different at this part,so it helps regardless

01:46:275 (106275|6) – wrong snap, should be here - 01:46:156 – nice catch, fixed

02:26:275 (146275|6,146275|2) – maybe you wanna make this triplets, it has crash sound on it nice one, thanks for noticing me senpai, fixed

02:41:275 (161275|0,161275|2) – better to make this one 15 or 16 I remapped instead the whole part

03:14:310 – add a note here I'd like to keep it simple here

03:14:846 (194846|4) – make it double very nice, fixed (i add note to 7)

03:17:168 (197168|1) – wrong snap, it should be here - 03:17:227 – thanks for noticing, nice catch. Fixed

03:21:275 (201275|1) – make it double I'd like to keep it simple here, by just having the player focus on guitar stream instead

03:27:525 (207525|6) – you can either move this note to 3 or 2 because it has lower pitch, and put the next note at 5 nice, fixed

03:29:668 – add a note here because the sound is loud enough agreed, fixed (added to 3)

03:45:382 (225382|4) - wrong snap, should be here - 03:45:441 – fixed

03:45:739 (225739|3) – wrong snap, should be at - 03:45:798 – fixed

03:45:560 – add a note as well here, the sound is really loud and because the bpm is so low i think it’s ok to put a note here hmm that's weird because i don't hear anything here

04:15:203 (255203|1) – I don’t know what kind of sound you follow here, consider to remove nice, removed

04:30:877 (270877|5) – make this one LN till - 04:31:132 -good one, seems better than single note and it fit the small stream, fixed
Thank you for your modding! It's very helpful, especially on note snaps and the stair pattern which I decided to make it more comfortable. Thanks!

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Mapset Spread : Σ( ° △ °|||)︴ first of all,
its more appropriate to change the name of the diffs into Easy and Normal. rather than Normal and Hard.
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( X ) I will not take this into consideration when modding
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7k HD
your earlier beat pattern looks very monotonous, 3 2 3 2 3 2 3 2.
note that the emphasis of the beat differs on every 4 x 4/4
so 00:14:846 - you can also utilise 3 here instead, to signify that.
00:19:846 (19846|1) - move to 6 for hand balance
00:17:346 (17346|2,17525|4) - move to 1 and 4 for hand balance

01:28:775 (88775|0,88953|2) - 2 4 for hand balance
your jacks seems to be caused due to well, not well arranged pattern, instead of being put there on purpose, try to avoid the jack since i see no justification to do that
00:33:953 - you missed that 1 beat, arrange this like this for hand balance instead http://puu.sh/izin9/9750d389ed.jpg

00:34:846 (34846|5,34846|3,35560|6,35560|4,36275|5,36275|3,36989|6,36989|4) - here, but then why
00:37:703 (37703|1,37703|3,38417|1,38417|3,39132|1,39132|3,39846|3,39846|1) - here? how about making them consistent? and also if you take PR into consideration, 2nd pattern here is much more appropriate.

00:40:560 (40560|3,40560|6,41275|3,41275|6,41989|6,41989|3,42703|6,42703|3) - just like this here
00:51:632 (51632|6,52346|6,53060|6,54489|5,55203|5,55917|5) - what does this note represent? seems random to me? i may know what you're following, probably. but in which case, you should have utilised LN as well here
00:53:775 - 00:56:632 -

00:51:632 (51632|6) - delete LN here, not appropriate. the phase does not change there, the phase starts here 00:51:989 -

01:00:560 (60560|5,61632|1,61989|5) - why vocal? i recommend you not to map it, not really appropriate for mania imo.
instead why not map the BG violin sustained sound?

01:14:846 (74846|6,75560|5,76275|4,76989|6,77703|5,78417|4) - again, random LN imo? it's very difficult to guess which sound you're following,
if you're following the vocal, its highly recommended not to map it, but if you insist on mapping it, then the snapping is incorrect.
01:14:846 (74846|6) - ends at 01:15:203 - - . a very loud clear vocal that utilise a staccati, thus it is unreasonable not to map it. (except if its very dubious or unclear on how to differentiate and determine the stops, which in this case, is very clear and thus should be followed)
01:16:275 (76275|4) - also should be cut in half
01:16:989 (76989|6) - wrong snap, should ends at 01:17:525 - then 01:17:703 (77703|5) - starts at that point
01:16:989 - http://puu.sh/iziRa/190912ae11.jpg

recheck your LN. a lot of incorrect snapping
01:20:025 - utilise 1/8 x 2 notes to express that beat you know what im talking about.
01:23:417 - inconsistent, utilise 2 notes, or 3 if you agree with my suggestions above, for every 4 x 4/4 white lines, because the beat is signified there
01:26:275 - 2notes
01:30:560 - why only LN? audible beat, add to 5 and 7
01:30:917 - just like this
01:37:346 - add a note
01:38:060 - ^^
01:38:775 - ^^
01:40:203 - ^
01:41:632 (101632|5) - just like this here, keep it consistent.

01:38:417 (98417|3,99846|5,101275|2) - also random LN imo. cannot determine which sounds you're following. snapping is incorrect if you're following all BG (be it violin or piano)
snapping is also incorrect if you're following main vocal
snapping is also incorrect if you're following the BG vocal.


01:42:525 (102525|0,102703|2,102703|4,102792|0,102971|2,103060|4) - follow my suggestions above, same phase. unreasonable placement imo.
seee the section here for point mentioned above 00:33:953 - you missed that 1 beat, arrange this like this for hand balance instead http://puu.sh/izin9/9750d389ed.jpg

surprisingly you did that correctly here 02:51:275 (171275|5,171275|3,171453|2,171543|3,171632|4) -


01:46:096 (106096|4) - wrong, harp sound doees not start here, so delete
01:46:185 (106185|3,106275|2) - should be stairs, the pitch ascends, adjust accordingly
01:48:953 (108953|0) - wrong, delete. should be 1/8 snap, see above for similar point
01:51:900 (111900|6,111989|5) - surprisingly you map this one correctly, keep it consistent :3
01:52:346 (112346|6) - move to 5 or 4, hand balance

01:53:507 (113507|2) - wrong SN, the pitch does not change. the pitch slides. sliding pitch is best expressed with short LN instead of this SN because there is no clear cut change between pitch (i.e. E to D. instead, E to D in 200 ms, which imply the frequency of the pitch decreases slowly until it reach D after 200ms. this is to exemplify my point, note that the pitch of the guitar is not E to D)

01:53:953 (113953|6) - wrong snap if you're following guitar BG, should be 1/8 snap after the red lines here 01:53:775 -
01:53:775 (113775|5) - delete. or if you are actually expressing that guitar sound with this, then snapping should follow my recommendation above

01:53:417 (113417|0,113953|6,114489|0) - again random LN, cannot determine which sounds you're following

01:54:757 (114757|4,114846|5) - wrong, should be 3 x 1/16 SN, adjust accordingly.
and because this is a kind of exception. i think its fine to utilise it even in less than 2 star diffs.

01:57:703 - add 2 notes for beat, more appropriate stream as well. the harp / guitar sound, then followed by beat.
02:03:417 - addd another note 1/8 snapping after this white line for the harp/guitar sound

02:06:007 (126007|1,126096|2,126185|3) - wrong snap, drag it up until blue lines
02:10:203 (130203|1,130382|3) - drag 1x to left, no justification to jack

02:14:846 - why not map the guitar?
02:15:203 -

02:17:346 - add 2 notes or 1 note, unreasonable to only use LN, audible beat

02:19:132 (139132|2,139221|1) - wrong snappingm should be 1/12 or 1/16
02:19:489 (139489|3,139578|4) - should only be 1 note, pitch slides, not a clear 2 pitch.
and also incorrect snap, 02:19:489 (139489|3) - should be 1/8 snap after the red line

02:19:935 (139935|6) - delete, no pitch here.
02:22:703 (142703|3) - change into LN to signify the sliding pitch

02:23:417 (143417|6,144132|5,144846|4,145560|3,146275|0) - dubious LN, incorrect snapping on all occasion as explained above, rearrange, or follow 1 of the sound consistently with the correct snapping.

02:34:221 (154221|5) - incorrect, delete. the pitch starts at white lines. you're confusing the sound because its too crowded.

02:39:132 (159132|4) - much better to see a trill here rather than LN, but oh well...
02:39:132 (159132|4) - also incorrect snapping. trill ends at 02:39:846 -
after that use 1/4 SN, very clear harpsichord pitch there to differentiate between the trill and 1/4 melody

02:52:346 - audible piano melody. harpsichord melody, add a note, looks too empty to me
02:53:060 - harpsichord melody, add a note
02:55:918 - add

03:00:203 (180203|5,180918|3,181632|1,183060|3) - dubious LN, or inconsistent if i assume i correctly guessed what you're following.
03:02:346 - add another LN here for consistency. if you're not following this sound then idk what you're following.
03:14:310 (194310|3) - not appropriate LN here, use earlier 1/8 beat pattern instead. you know you have this before

03:17:168 (197168|1) - wrong, put at 5, PR
03:17:525 (197525|3,197703|1) - wrong as well, move both to 6, pitch is the same, no reason NOT to jack

03:20:025 (200025|2) - incorrect snap, should start 1/8 after that line
03:20:293 (200293|6) - ^same as above, incorrect snap

03:20:560 (200560|4) - pitch slides, no justification to express them into different note. delete this,

03:22:346 (202346|3,202525|4,202703|1,202703|5,202793|2,202971|3,203150|2,203328|1,203418|3) - incorrect snap, incorrect PR, please revamp the whole section based on recommendations written above ;w;

03:26:989 - guitar pitch exist here, why no note? adjust based on PR, accordingly.
03:27:346 (207346|2,207435|1,207614|0,207703|2) - also all incorrect snap, please readjust based on recomendations above

03:28:953 (208953|0) - incorrect snap, should be 1/6 at 03:28:894 -
03:30:114 (210114|1) - incorrect snap as well, should be 1/6
03:30:203 (210203|0) - and jack them, same pitch, no justification NOT to jack
03:33:953 (213953|4,214132|6) - jack them, same pitch. or jack them with 4.

03:35:560 (215560|5,215739|6) - sliding pitch with a very differentiated pitch, imo this one is appropriate to be expressed with 2 SN just like what you have done. but for the other part, no.

03:36:989 (216989|1,217168|2,217346|1,217435|0,217614|2,217703|3) - revamp the whole pattern based on recommendations given earlier

mod ends here.. please re check the last part of the song as its the same copy with earlier pattern except with different guitar accompaniment melody.
a lot of the snaps are still incorrect. check your LN as well, a lot of them are incorrectly representing some part of the song or the other, or downright abused.. probably.

in conclusion, this diff still needs a lot of fixing, i like how a lot of instruments are utilised across the whole song though. good luck!!


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Topic Starter
Kruzon
sankyuu
Topic Starter
Kruzon
Dear Modders, Kindly ignore the hard difficulty, please mod the normal difficulty instead, Thank You c:
-[ AmiShici ]-
Hiii Rinzler o/

From Star_Lenz's Mania Team Queues

4K = |1|2|3|4|
little mod from me
00:16:989 (16989|5) - move to 5
00:35:917 - is not missing? actually i dont know what are you following there. but i just feel something loss there.
00:45:917 (45917|4) - delete? for better flow then add note here 00:46:275 - for impact in new pitch
00:57:703 (57703|3) - move to 2?
00:59:846 (59846|3) - move to 6 or 7
01:00:203 (60203|4) - 01:04:489 (64489|0) - 01:05:917 (65917|1) - 01:05:917 (65917|1) - 01:07:346 (67346|1) -delete? *please, try to play before reject this
01:28:775 (88775|0,88953|2,89132|4) - ctrl + H? making different from 01:25:917 (85917|0,86096|2,86275|4) -
01:45:917 - add note
01:46:185 (106185|6) - why this you put on yellow line while this 01:49:132 (109132|0) - you put on white line? it's make inconsisten. suggest move it to white line
01:54:013 (114013|6) - i dont know this true or not. just in my opinion This LN started on 01:53:998 - (1/16 snap) and should be the LN end on 01:54:400 -
01:57:346 - add note
01:57:703 (117703|1) - move to 3?
01:58:060 - add note? for low hithat
02:00:382 - add note?
02:20:382 - ^ for flow
02:21:632 - ^ for hithat
03:18:060 - missing note?
03:18:953 - ^
03:57:168 (237168|4) - this note should be move to 03:57:168 (237168|4) -

Beautiful song :)
Sorry, i'm bad on modding 7K or easier diff. idk i can helpful or not. :(
Good luck. Have a nice day ^.^)b
Topic Starter
Kruzon

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:

Hiii Rinzler o/

From Star_Lenz's Mania Team Queues

4K = |1|2|3|4|
little mod from me
00:16:989 (16989|5) - move to 5 I'm following these pattern rhythm 00:15:560 (15560|6,15560|5) - , hence the repetition of notes
00:35:917 - is not missing? actually i dont know what are you following there. but i just feel something loss there. I did not follow vocal here but piano and drum, that's why i left it empty
00:45:917 (45917|4) - delete? for better flow then add note here 00:46:275 - for impact in new pitch I follow vocal "no" here, and if i add note on 00:46:275 (46275|6) - , then i need to add note to 00:47:703 (47703|5) - as well, which will make 00:46:989 (46989|6,46989|4,48417|4,48417|6) - lose it's meaning on density for having 2 notes, for loud sound
00:57:703 (57703|3) - move to 2? I can't, because i gave them narrowed gap biased with 00:57:346 (57346|6,57346|2) - purposely as it seem fitting
00:59:846 (59846|3) - move to 6 or 7 thanks, fixed and re-pattern
01:00:203 (60203|4) - 01:04:489 (64489|0) - 01:05:917 (65917|1) - 01:05:917 (65917|1) - 01:07:346 (67346|1) -delete? *please, try to play before reject this I understand your concern, actually I was mapping vocal here, but thanks to you, I noticed nearby area that need fixing, therefore this really helps me a lot
01:28:775 (88775|0,88953|2,89132|4) - ctrl + H? making different from 01:25:917 (85917|0,86096|2,86275|4) - thanks for noticing, your idea is splendid but i am following pitch flow here, that's why it ended up as repetitive pattern due to same vocal rhythm
01:45:917 - add note im trying to make the upcoming flow readable and apparent since i swap instrument to guitar later on
01:46:185 (106185|6) - why this you put on yellow line while this 01:49:132 (109132|0) - you put on white line? it's make inconsisten. suggest move it to white line good point, though if you listen closely, 01:46:185 (106185|6) - actually fit the current place, and 01:49:132 (109132|0) - is placed on the white line because it's exactly where the instrument strike in. However, as you said, they are inconsistent, therefore i tried to delete 01:45:203 (105203|5) - and 01:46:632 (106632|1) - and 01:47:346 (107346|5) - (which are the vocal notes) to increase readability. Thank you for noticing this, very good found
01:54:013 (114013|6) - i dont know this true or not. just in my opinion This LN started on 01:53:998 - (1/16 snap) and should be the LN end on 01:54:400 -
the long notes are separated because the vocal does not suggest a continuous streamand the snap is correct 1/6, but thanks to you i noticed the snap error in hard difficulty, therefore it helps
01:57:346 - add note nice catch, fixed and re-pattern
01:57:703 (117703|1) - move to 3? moved to 2 instead, and changed to long note, following vocal
01:58:060 - add note? for low hithat thanks for noticing this, fixed
02:00:382 - add note? no sound here it seems
02:20:382 - ^ for flow yes, apparently it's missing vocal note here, I add on Hard difficulty instead, for pattern variation between difficulty purposes
02:21:632 - ^ for hithat i follow guitar at this point
03:18:060 - missing note? nice catch, fixed
03:18:953 - ^ thanks for noticing, fixed
03:57:168 (237168|4) - this note should be move to 03:57:168 (237168|4) - hmm?

Beautiful song :)
Sorry, i'm bad on modding 7K or easier diff. idk i can helpful or not. :( It's very helpful, and thanks to you i noticed many error in the map, I really appreciate your help :)
Good luck. Have a nice day ^.^)b Godspeed
Thank you very much!

Updaterino

-[ AmiShici ]-

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:

Hiii Rinzler o/

From Star_Lenz's Mania Team Queues

4K = |1|2|3|4|
Lololol, I forgot to change it xD
I'm sorry about it :o

Kruzon wrote:

03:57:168 (237168|4) - this note should be move to 03:57:168 (237168|4) - hmm? // you false put the note. there you follow vocal but the vocal not on 03:57:168 (237168|4) - but on 03:57:525 - . sorry i have false given you the link :o
Topic Starter
Kruzon

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:

Hiii Rinzler o/

From Star_Lenz's Mania Team Queues

4K = |1|2|3|4|
Lololol, I forgot to change it xD
I'm sorry about it :o

Kruzon wrote:

03:57:168 (237168|4) - this note should be move to 03:57:168 (237168|4) - hmm? // you false put the note. there you follow vocal but the vocal not on 03:57:168 (237168|4) - but on 03:57:525 - . sorry i have false given you the link :o
no problem, thank you for replying back, really appreciate it :)
Ayachi-
M4M

Columns: 1234567

[Hard]
00:11:394 (11394|0,11751|0) - I am pretty sure that these notes are on 1/4 which is 00:11:453 - and 00:11:810 -
Since that you are mapping vocals like 00:11:632 - , I suggest you to put a LN from 00:13:060 - until 00:13:417 - to represent to vocal
00:14:489 - Add a note for vocal like you did for some other notes?
00:21:275 - Suggest to move one of the notes to right hand for hand balance?
00:21:989 - Add a note here for the drum
00:23:060 - 00:23:239 - Should have a note like 00:11:453 - for vocal
00:34:251 (34251|2,34370|3) - Should all be on 1/6 from 00:34:310 - to 00:34:489 - which means that you are missing a note
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3326248
00:40:382 (40382|2) - I don't really feel anything here, suggest to remove it
00:43:775 - Add a note for the guitar
00:44:489 - Same as above, there is a guitar sound over here
00:54:489 (54489|6) - Suggest to move this to the first column for a more comfortable placement
00:56:632 - You should add a note for the drums like you have 2 notes for all other drums such as 00:45:203 -
01:01:632 (61632|1) - I think you are mapping vocal with this LN and this should actually end at 01:01:810 - and 01:01:989 (61989|5) - shoudl start 01:01:810 - because the vocal changed
01:08:775 (68775|5,68953|4,69132|6) - A bit uncomfortable, suggest to change the columns of these notes
01:10:917 - You might want to add a note here just like 01:13:775 -
01:16:989 (76989|5) - Suggest to move to column one for more comfortable placement
01:19:727 (79727|3) - Shoul start 01:19:667 - and end 01:19:846 - because the guitar sound starts 01:19:667 - and there is a pitch change at 01:19:846 -
01:20:025 - You might want to add a note here as well for the insturment
01:26:275 - Add a note for the drum
01:28:060 - Same as above
01:30:560 - Also the same thing
01:33:775 - This should also be double just like 01:13:775 -
01:42:822 (102822|0,102941|2) - Same as 00:34:310 , these are 1/6
01:46:037 (106037|4,106156|3) - These should be on 1/12 at 01:46:215 - and 01:46:156 -
01:47:822 (107822|5) - This is on 1/4 at 01:47:882 -
01:48:894 (108894|0) - Don't really suggest to place this note since it isn't significant
01:51:870 (111870|6) - There is no sound for this, should be removed
01:53:537 (113537|3,113656|5) - These should be on 01:53:596 - and 01:53:775 -
01:54:013 (114013|6) - Starts 01:53:953 - and 01:53:417 (113417|0) - ends 01:53:953 - for vocal
01:54:787 - You shuold add a note here because it is the same type of sound with 01:54:727 (114727|2,114846|4) -
01:57:703 - 01:59:132 - 01:59:489 - 02:00:560 - 02:01:989 - 02:02:346 - Should all be 2 notes in order to keep the map consistent with 02:04:846 -
01:59:846 - This shuold be 3 notes like 01:58:417 -
02:06:215 - Sugges to add a note since it is same piano sound as the previoius and next note
02:09:489 - You didn't add 2 notes for piano like this so I suggest you to remove one of them
02:14:846 - Suggest to add a note here for the instrument
02:15:203 - Same as above
02:19:042 (139042|4,139400|5,139757|6) - No sound, remove them, they actually come after not befroe
02:22:792 (142792|5) - Should be on 02:22:882 -
02:23:417 - Add a note for the heavier sound
02:27:108 (147108|6) - Should be on 02:27:167 -
02:27:525 - Add a note for drum
02:28:328 (148328|1) - Remove this, there is not sound
02:28:894 (148894|3) - This vocal is on 02:28:953 -
02:30:560 - Add a note for drum
02:33:417 - Same as above
02:34:251 (154251|5) - This is on 02:34:310 -
02:39:965 (159965|2) - Should be on 1/4 at 02:40:025 -
02:43:418 - Add a note for drum like 02:41:989 -
02:48:179 (168179|5) - is on the 1/4 line at 02:48:239 -
02:49:965 (169965|6) - Also on the 1/4 at 02:50:025 -
02:51:394 (171394|2,171513|3) - 1/6, Same as 00:34:310 -
02:56:989 - You should add a note like all the triples at 02:54:132 -
03:20:322 (200322|4,200441|5) - Should be on 1/12 at 03:20:441 - 03:20:501 -
03:22:822 (202822|3) - Should be at 03:23:001 -
03:34:965 (214965|2) - On 1/4 at 03:35:025 -
03:36:037 (216037|4) - Starts 03:36:096 -
03:37:108 (217108|2) - Starts 03:37:168 - ends 03:37:346 -
03:37:465 (217465|3) - no sound, remove
03:39:013 (219013|5) - is on 03:39:043 -
03:38:537 (218537|5) - is on 03:38:656 -
03:38:775 (218775|3) - no sound, remove it
03:42:465 (222465|3,222822|5) - should be on 1/4 at 03:42:525 - and 03:42:882 -
03:44:965 (224965|4) - is on 03:45:025 -
03:45:382 - Add a note for the guitar sound
03:46:394 (226394|4) - is on 03:46:453 -
03:48:179 (228179|4,228537|5) - are on 1/4 at 03:48:239 - and 03:48:596 -
03:49:608 (229608|3,229727|4) - There is only one sound at 03:49:668 -
03:51:810 (231810|4) - This sound actually starts 03:51:632 -
03:56:275 - 03:56:632 - Add a note for drum like you did at the other places before
04:14:251 (254251|3,254370|2) - 1/6 like 00:34:310 -
04:15:322 (255322|3) - is on 04:15:382 -
04:17:793 (257793|2) - is on 04:17:763 -
04:23:507 (263507|4) - is on 04:23:477 -
04:26:520 (266520|1) - Should be moved after 04:26:629 - and placed on 04:26:706 -
04:29:600 - You should change the red line here to 78.240 BPM, which is double from the old one so you can map the piano 04:30:877 - to 04:31:069 - with 1/12 snap

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Kruzon
holy cow thanks a lot for the mod, i will check it soon, and will mod your map starting now!
Topic Starter
Kruzon

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

M4M

Columns: 1234567

[Hard]
00:11:394 (11394|0,11751|0) - I am pretty sure that these notes are on 1/4 which is 00:11:453 - and 00:11:810 - fixed
Since that you are mapping vocals like 00:11:632 - , I suggest you to put a LN from 00:13:060 - until 00:13:417 - to represent to vocal you are right, fixed
00:14:489 - Add a note for vocal like you did for some other notes? added, fixed
00:21:275 - Suggest to move one of the notes to right hand for hand balance? i think i will stick to the current placement for pattern purposes
00:21:989 - Add a note here for the drum 00:21:989 (21989|3,21989|1) - already represent 2 notes, which i think already enough
00:23:060 - 00:23:239 - Should have a note like 00:11:453 - for vocal nice one, fixed
00:34:251 (34251|2,34370|3) - Should all be on 1/6 from 00:34:310 - to 00:34:489 - which means that you are missing a note
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3326248 thanks for noticing, fixed
00:40:382 (40382|2) - I don't really feel anything here, suggest to remove it removed, fixed
00:43:775 - Add a note for the guitar i think i will let it empty as the guitar sound is close to empty, i decided to plot map on apparent notes here instead
00:44:489 - Same as above, there is a guitar sound over here
00:54:489 (54489|6) - Suggest to move this to the first column for a more comfortable placement for the sake of comfort-ability, i agreed to your suggestion, moved to 1
00:56:632 - You should add a note for the drums like you have 2 notes for all other drums such as 00:45:203 - fixed
-------------------------------------------------------------- All Accepted -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
01:01:632 (61632|1) - I think you are mapping vocal with this LN and this should actually end at 01:01:810 - and 01:01:989 (61989|5) - shoudl start 01:01:810 - because the vocal changed thank you for noticing this, fixed them
01:08:775 (68775|5,68953|4,69132|6) - A bit uncomfortable, suggest to change the columns of these notes swapped column, fixed
01:10:917 - You might want to add a note here just like 01:13:775 -
01:16:989 (76989|5) - Suggest to move to column one for more comfortable placement agreed, fixed
01:19:727 (79727|3) - Shoul start 01:19:667 - and end 01:19:846 - because the guitar sound starts 01:19:667 - and there is a pitch change at 01:19:846 - thanks, fixed
01:20:025 - You might want to add a note here as well for the insturment
01:26:275 - Add a note for the drum
01:28:060 - Same as above
01:30:560 - Also the same thing
01:33:775 - This should also be double just like 01:13:775 -
01:42:822 (102822|0,102941|2) - Same as 00:34:310 , these are 1/6
01:46:037 (106037|4,106156|3) - These should be on 1/12 at 01:46:215 - and 01:46:156 -
01:47:822 (107822|5) - This is on 1/4 at 01:47:882 -
01:48:894 (108894|0) - Don't really suggest to place this note since it isn't significant alright, removed
01:51:870 (111870|6) - There is no sound for this, should be removed
01:53:537 (113537|3,113656|5) - These should be on 01:53:596 - and 01:53:775 -
01:54:013 (114013|6) - Starts 01:53:953 - and 01:53:417 (113417|0) - ends 01:53:953 - for vocal
01:54:787 - You shuold add a note here because it is the same type of sound with 01:54:727 (114727|2,114846|4) -
01:57:703 - 01:59:132 - 01:59:489 - 02:00:560 - 02:01:989 - 02:02:346 - Should all be 2 notes in order to keep the map consistent with 02:04:846 -
01:59:846 - This shuold be 3 notes like 01:58:417 -
02:06:215 - Sugges to add a note since it is same piano sound as the previoius and next note
02:09:489 - You didn't add 2 notes for piano like this so I suggest you to remove one of them
02:14:846 - Suggest to add a note here for the instrument
02:15:203 - Same as above
02:19:042 (139042|4,139400|5,139757|6) - No sound, remove them, they actually come after not befroe
02:22:792 (142792|5) - Should be on 02:22:882 -
02:23:417 - Add a note for the heavier sound
02:27:108 (147108|6) - Should be on 02:27:167 -
02:27:525 - Add a note for drum
02:28:328 (148328|1) - Remove this, there is not sound
02:28:894 (148894|3) - This vocal is on 02:28:953 -
02:30:560 - Add a note for drum
02:33:417 - Same as above
02:34:251 (154251|5) - This is on 02:34:310 -
02:39:965 (159965|2) - Should be on 1/4 at 02:40:025 -
02:43:418 - Add a note for drum like 02:41:989 -
02:48:179 (168179|5) - is on the 1/4 line at 02:48:239 -
02:49:965 (169965|6) - Also on the 1/4 at 02:50:025 -
02:51:394 (171394|2,171513|3) - 1/6, Same as 00:34:310 -
02:56:989 - You should add a note like all the triples at 02:54:132 -
03:20:322 (200322|4,200441|5) - Should be on 1/12 at 03:20:441 - 03:20:501 -
03:22:822 (202822|3) - Should be at 03:23:001 -
03:34:965 (214965|2) - On 1/4 at 03:35:025 -
03:36:037 (216037|4) - Starts 03:36:096 -
03:37:108 (217108|2) - Starts 03:37:168 - ends 03:37:346 -
03:37:465 (217465|3) - no sound, remove
03:39:013 (219013|5) - is on 03:39:043 -
03:38:537 (218537|5) - is on 03:38:656 -
03:38:775 (218775|3) - no sound, remove it
03:42:465 (222465|3,222822|5) - should be on 1/4 at 03:42:525 - and 03:42:882 -
03:44:965 (224965|4) - is on 03:45:025 -
03:45:382 - Add a note for the guitar sound
03:46:394 (226394|4) - is on 03:46:453 -
03:48:179 (228179|4,228537|5) - are on 1/4 at 03:48:239 - and 03:48:596 -
03:49:608 (229608|3,229727|4) - There is only one sound at 03:49:668 -
03:51:810 (231810|4) - This sound actually starts 03:51:632 -
03:56:275 - 03:56:632 - Add a note for drum like you did at the other places before
04:14:251 (254251|3,254370|2) - 1/6 like 00:34:310 -
04:15:322 (255322|3) - is on 04:15:382 -
04:17:793 (257793|2) - is on 04:17:763 -
04:23:507 (263507|4) - is on 04:23:477 -
04:26:520 (266520|1) - Should be moved after 04:26:629 - and placed on 04:26:706 -
04:29:600 - You should change the red line here to 78.240 BPM, which is double from the old one so you can map the piano 04:30:877 - to 04:31:069 - with 1/12 snap changed to double bpm, which is 78.280, added several notes in between said place

------------------------------------------------------------------All Accepted------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Good Luck! Godspeed
Thank you very much for your help. It is overwhelmingly helpful, especially on notes density and proper notes snapping. I appreciate your help!

Updaterino

Xenophilius
HI! M4M from My Queue

Layout:

|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|

Hard
  1. 00:39:489 (39489|2) - I think this note is better in 3 because the drum always have the same time and so I think it's better to jack this three notes 00:39:132 (39132|3,39489|2,39846|3) -
  2. 00:43:775 - 00:44:489 - You can add single note here
  3. 01:58:060 - Same as above ^ you can add a single note here
  4. 02:23:775 - same ^
  5. 00:44:846 (44846|2,45203|3,45560|2) - I suggest to jack those notes like above ^^
  6. 01:36:275 (96275|2,96632|4,96989|3) - Same ^
  7. 01:17:703 (77703|5,77703|3) - Why 2 LN here?
  8. 01:41:632 (101632|6) - I think it can be better as LN until 01:41:989 -
  9. 01:46:156 (106156|4,106215|6,106275|2) - This grace, I suggest to make it 2- 4-6 instead of your 4-6-2
  10. 01:48:060 (108060|1) - In the song this note is the same of 01:47:703 (107703|3) -, so I suggest to move this note to 3
  11. 01:57:584 (117584|1,117703|5,117703|3) - I suggest to make the grace with 3 note here, move 01:57:703 (117703|3) - here 01:57:703 (117703|3) -
  12. 02:00:441 (120441|5) - This grace is not necessary, I suggest to make a single chord moving this here 02:00:560 -
  13. 02:11:275 (131275|0,131275|2,131275|1,131453|5,131632|1,131810|5,131989|1,131989|5) - Can be better moving 02:11:275 (131275|2) - in 6 and 02:11:810 (131810|5) - in 3, so you have this group 02:11:275 (131275|1,131453|5,131632|1) - the same of 01:47:703 (107703|3,107882|5,108060|1) - with applied mod
  14. 02:26:989 (146989|4,146989|5,146989|3,147167|6,147346|2,147525|0,147703|2,147703|1) - Same as point above ^. 02:27:346 (147346|2) - to 4, maybe 02:26:989 (146989|5) - to 0/2, 02:27:525 (147525|0) - to 2 and move this 02:27:703 (147703|2) -
  15. 02:19:846 (139846|2) - Delete, why 3 notes here?
  16. 02:22:703 (142703|4,143060|1) - Same as 01:47:703 (107703|3,107882|5,108060|1) - , move 02:23:060 (143060|1) - to 4, also move this 02:23:417 (143417|4) - if you don't want to jack
  17. 03:20:918 (200918|0,201096|5,201275|1) - I thin is better deleting 03:21:096 (201096|5) - and moving 03:21:275 (201275|1) - to 0
  18. 03:46:275 (226275|6) - Move to 0 to jack with 03:46:632 (226632|0,226989|0,227346|0) - , also 03:48:060 (228060|2,228418|3) - to 1 to form the same jack with those notes 03:47:703 (227703|1,228060|2,228418|3,228775|1) -
  19. 04:26:628 (266628|3) - move to 04:26:574 -, a tri grace here is better
  20. 04:30:877 (270877|1) - I don't like a lot this slider, maybe it can be a normal note?
  21. Also you have to set Kiai Times of your song

Mod end, I will wait for mod on my map.
Topic Starter
Kruzon
I was supposed to mod your map first, I'm really sorry you had to begin first instead-

I'm gonna mod your map starting now
Topic Starter
Kruzon

_Xenophilius_ wrote:

HI! M4M from My Queue

Layout:

|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|

Hard
  1. 00:39:489 (39489|2) - I think this note is better in 3 because the drum always have the same time and so I think it's better to jack this three notes 00:39:132 (39132|3,39489|2,39846|3) - i think i'll keep it
  2. 00:43:775 - 00:44:489 - You can add single note here the sound is close to none, and i only map apparent instrument here
  3. 01:58:060 - Same as above ^ you can add a single note here same reason
  4. 02:23:775 - same ^ reason same
  5. 00:44:846 (44846|2,45203|3,45560|2) - I suggest to jack those notes like above ^^ actually i'm trying to avoid jack as much as i can, i as this song is supposed to emphasize relaxation
  6. 01:36:275 (96275|2,96632|4,96989|3) - Same ^
  7. 01:17:703 (77703|5,77703|3) - Why 2 LN here? listen closely, and you will see why i put 2 ln
  8. 01:41:632 (101632|6) - I think it can be better as LN until 01:41:989 - pattern consistency will break if i do that
  9. 01:46:156 (106156|4,106215|6,106275|2) - This grace, I suggest to make it 2- 4-6 instead of your 4-6-2 you are right, it's more comfortable the way you suggested, fixed
  10. 01:48:060 (108060|1) - In the song this note is the same of 01:47:703 (107703|3) -, so I suggest to move this note to 3 fixed
  11. 01:57:584 (117584|1,117703|5,117703|3) - I suggest to make the grace with 3 note here, move 01:57:703 (117703|3) - here 01:57:703 (117703|3) - nice catch, fixed
  12. 02:00:441 (120441|5) - This grace is not necessary, I suggest to make a single chord moving this here 02:00:560 - but i sure heard 3 consecutive guitar sound here
  13. 02:11:275 (131275|0,131275|2,131275|1,131453|5,131632|1,131810|5,131989|1,131989|5) - Can be better moving 02:11:275 (131275|2) - in 6 and 02:11:810 (131810|5) - in 3, so you have this group 02:11:275 (131275|1,131453|5,131632|1) - the same of 01:47:703 (107703|3,107882|5,108060|1) - with applied mod very nice, fixed
  14. 02:26:989 (146989|4,146989|5,146989|3,147167|6,147346|2,147525|0,147703|2,147703|1) - Same as point above ^. 02:27:346 (147346|2) - to 4, maybe 02:26:989 (146989|5) - to 0/2, 02:27:525 (147525|0) - to 2 and move this 02:27:703 (147703|2) - fixed and repattern
  15. 02:19:846 (139846|2) - Delete, why 3 notes here? it's 2 notes, use beat snap divisor 1/12 and see closely
  16. 02:22:703 (142703|4,143060|1) - Same as 01:47:703 (107703|3,107882|5,108060|1) - , move 02:23:060 (143060|1) - to 4, also move this 02:23:417 (143417|4) - if you don't want to jack fixed, thanks
  17. 03:20:918 (200918|0,201096|5,201275|1) - I thin is better deleting 03:21:096 (201096|5) - and moving 03:21:275 (201275|1) - to 0 the sound is apparent and i don't think i'm gonna delete it
  18. 03:46:275 (226275|6) - Move to 0 to jack with 03:46:632 (226632|0,226989|0,227346|0) - , also 03:48:060 (228060|2,228418|3) - to 1 to form the same jack with those notes 03:47:703 (227703|1,228060|2,228418|3,228775|1) - starting at this point 03:48:060 (228060|2) - , i swap instrument and follow guitar stream instead, continuing jack would result in rigid and boring pattern
  19. 04:26:628 (266628|3) - move to 04:26:574 -, a tri grace here is better you are right, fixed
  20. 04:30:877 (270877|1) - I don't like a lot this slider, maybe it can be a normal note? alright then, changed to single note
  21. Also you have to set Kiai Times of your song don't worry, i'll put it when everything is almost good to go

Mod end, I will wait for mod on my map.Godspeed

Thank you for your help, I really appreciate it :) Thanks!

Updaterino

SReisen
m4m

column : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7


open it
[Normal]

00:22:000 (22000|5) - move to 4 easy for - 00:22:714 (22714|6,22714|4) - to press
follow this
00:23:429 (23429|2) - move to - 00:23:250 - and - 00:23:429 - add note to 5 & 7
00:23:786 (23786|1,24143|3) - ctrl+j
00:33:250 - kick , add?
00:46:286 - reconsider this part - 00:46:643 (46643|2,47000|6,47000|4) - ctrl+h
00:48:072 (48072|2) - move to 2
00:53:786 (53786|1) - move to 5
01:09:500 (69500|1) - ^ to 1
01:18:250 - kick?
01:19:857 (79857|5,80036|2,80214|5,80393|2,80572|3) - follow this - ctrl+h then , ctrl+j
01:31:464 (91464|5,91643|3,91822|6,92000|4) - make a stairs
01:58:072 (118072|0) - move to 4
02:08:072 (128072|0) - move to 5
02:18:072 (138072|0,138429|4) - ctrl+j
02:26:822 - kick
02:27:536 - ^
02:57:000 (177000|4,177536|5) - ctrl+j
03:06:286 - add note
03:10:036 (190036|0) - remove
03:16:464 - spread it more nicely - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342266
03:19:500 - ^ - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342275
03:21:286 (201286|1) - move to 7
03:22:357 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342295
03:28:607 (208607|4) - move to 5
03:30:750 (210750|1) - remove
03:31:643 - guitar still here
03:33:786 (213786|1) - move to 1
03:35:750 (215750|6) - remove - 03:35:036 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342318
03:37:000 (217000|1) - move to 4
03:38:607 (218607|5) - remove
03:40:036 (220036|1) - ^
03:45:750 (225750|3) - move to 3
03:46:286 (226286|4) - ^ to 4
03:50:036 (230036|3) - remove
03:50:572 (230572|4,230750|6,230929|5) - <--- drag 1 clm to the left
04:00:929 (240929|0) - move to 5

[Hard]

00:23:786 (23786|0) - move to 5
00:30:929 - kick , add
00:33:250 - ^ ^
00:33:964 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342394
00:38:786 - add
00:50:214 (50214|0) - move to 6
01:00:572 - add kick
01:01:822 (61822|5) - move to 3 , pitch - 01:02:714 (62714|3) - to 5
01:06:643 - add
01:16:643 - ^ kick
01:18:964 - ^ ^
01:39:500 - ^^^
01:40:929 (100929|0) - move to 4
01:41:822 - kick
01:42:893 - this part suppose to be 1/8 snap , but is up to you
01:45:929 - add
01:46:643 - ^
01:48:072 (108072|1) - move to 6
01:53:072 - add
01:57:357 - ^
01:58:072 - ^
02:00:214 - ^
02:03:072 - ^
02:15:572 (135572|4,136107|5) - ctrl+j
02:26:822 - kick
02:30:572 (150572|4,150572|6) - <--- drag 1 clm to left
02:34:322 (154322|5) - remove - 02:34:500 (154500|2,154679|4) - <---- drag 2 clm to left
02:51:107 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342402
02:53:072 - add
02:55:929 - ^
02:56:643 - ^ kick
03:02:357 - ^^
03:13:964 - add
03:18:072 (198072|0,198250|2) - ctrl+h
03:20:393 (200393|4) - move to 3
03:21:286 (201286|1) - move to 3
03:27:000 (207000|0,207000|2) - ctrl+h
03:33:250 (213250|6) - move to 6
03:33:964 (213964|5) - ^ to 5
03:34:500 (214500|2) - ^ to 2
03:34:679 (214679|4) - ^ to 6
03:35:750 (215750|6) - remove - 03:35:929 (215929|5) - move to 7
03:37:536 (217536|4) - move to 4
03:38:429 (218429|4,219143|4) - move to 4
04:00:929 (240929|0) - move to 6
04:13:072 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342438
04:17:000 (257000|5) - move to 4
04:17:357 (257357|6) - move to 6
04:17:714 (257714|4,257893|2,259500|2) - ctrl+h
04:30:941 (270941|1,270941|2) - LN better

that was nightmare lol
Topic Starter
Kruzon
I will resume replying tomorrow, for now only normal ww



ShikiNoHollow wrote:

m4m

column : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7


open it
[Normal]

00:22:000 (22000|5) - move to 4 easy for - 00:22:714 (22714|6,22714|4) - to press fixed
follow this
00:23:429 (23429|2) - move to - 00:23:250 - and - 00:23:429 - add note to 5 & 7 fixed
00:23:786 (23786|1,24143|3) - ctrl+j fixed
00:33:250 - kick , add? for consistency purpose, i decided to leave it be
00:46:286 - reconsider this part - 00:46:643 (46643|2,47000|6,47000|4) - ctrl+h i am following the rhythm flow at this point, that's why they are right sided.but thanks for this, i noticed a note 00:48:072 (48072|2) - and move it to the left side
00:48:072 (48072|2) - move to 2 fixed, as mentioned above
00:53:786 (53786|1) - move to 5 fixed
01:09:500 (69500|1) - ^ to 1 fixed
01:18:250 - kick? the sound is not apparent, so i will leave it empty
01:19:857 (79857|5,80036|2,80214|5,80393|2,80572|3) - follow this - ctrl+h then , ctrl+j perhaps i will keep this
01:31:464 (91464|5,91643|3,91822|6,92000|4) - make a stairs following rhythm fit well at this point
01:58:072 (118072|0) - move to 4 i had to leave it here because column 1 is vastly empty, besides this is one of the challenging part in normal difficulty where player need to press sn while holding, i intend to keep it
02:08:072 (128072|0) - move to 5 very nice flow, thanks, fixed
02:18:072 (138072|0,138429|4) - ctrl+j i keep it for the sake of pattern flow which are repetitively ascending at this point
02:26:822 - kick nice catch, fixed and re-pattern
02:27:536 - ^ fixed, added on 1
02:57:000 (177000|4,177536|5) - ctrl+j fixed
03:06:286 - add note i keep this, maintaining the guitar stream with just 1 note
03:10:036 (190036|0) - remove nice one, fixed
03:16:464 - spread it more nicely - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342266 cool, fixed
03:19:500 - ^ - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342275 fixed
03:21:286 (201286|1) - move to 7 this will leave column 2 gap wide empty, besides it's on the right pitch so i will leave it be
03:22:357 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342295 i decided to follow pr here
03:28:607 (208607|4) - move to 5 it's already on 5
03:30:750 (210750|1) - remove nice one, fixed
03:31:643 - guitar still here fixed, added to 4
03:33:786 (213786|1) - move to 1 nice one, fixed
03:35:750 (215750|6) - remove - 03:35:036 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342318 i use your pattern layout and do some tweaking on it, still it helps a lot
03:37:000 (217000|1) - move to 4 moved, fixed
03:38:607 (218607|5) - remove okay then, fixed
03:40:036 (220036|1) - ^ nice one, fixed
03:45:750 (225750|3) - move to 3 okay
03:46:286 (226286|4) - ^ to 4 oh my looks even better, nice
03:50:036 (230036|3) - remove fixed
03:50:572 (230572|4,230750|6,230929|5) - <--- drag 1 clm to the left alright, i'll use pattern repetition 03:50:036 (230036|3,230214|5,230572|3,230750|5) - then
04:00:929 (240929|0) - move to 5 alright

[Hard]

00:23:786 (23786|0) - move to 5
00:30:929 - kick , add
00:33:250 - ^ ^
00:33:964 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342394
00:38:786 - add
00:50:214 (50214|0) - move to 6
01:00:572 - add kick
01:01:822 (61822|5) - move to 3 , pitch - 01:02:714 (62714|3) - to 5
01:06:643 - add
01:16:643 - ^ kick
01:18:964 - ^ ^
01:39:500 - ^^^
01:40:929 (100929|0) - move to 4
01:41:822 - kick
01:42:893 - this part suppose to be 1/8 snap , but is up to you
01:45:929 - add
01:46:643 - ^
01:48:072 (108072|1) - move to 6
01:53:072 - add
01:57:357 - ^
01:58:072 - ^
02:00:214 - ^
02:03:072 - ^
02:15:572 (135572|4,136107|5) - ctrl+j
02:26:822 - kick
02:30:572 (150572|4,150572|6) - <--- drag 1 clm to left
02:34:322 (154322|5) - remove - 02:34:500 (154500|2,154679|4) - <---- drag 2 clm to left
02:51:107 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342402
02:53:072 - add
02:55:929 - ^
02:56:643 - ^ kick
03:02:357 - ^^
03:13:964 - add
03:18:072 (198072|0,198250|2) - ctrl+h
03:20:393 (200393|4) - move to 3
03:21:286 (201286|1) - move to 3
03:27:000 (207000|0,207000|2) - ctrl+h
03:33:250 (213250|6) - move to 6
03:33:964 (213964|5) - ^ to 5
03:34:500 (214500|2) - ^ to 2
03:34:679 (214679|4) - ^ to 6
03:35:750 (215750|6) - remove - 03:35:929 (215929|5) - move to 7
03:37:536 (217536|4) - move to 4
03:38:429 (218429|4,219143|4) - move to 4
04:00:929 (240929|0) - move to 6
04:13:072 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3342438
04:17:000 (257000|5) - move to 4
04:17:357 (257357|6) - move to 6
04:17:714 (257714|4,257893|2,259500|2) - ctrl+h
04:30:941 (270941|1,270941|2) - LN better

that was nightmare lol
Topic Starter
Kruzon
Dear modders, do not mod hard difficulty, but you may mod normal ones instead. Thank you c:
Hestia-
[Normal]
00:34:857 - The patterns after this part feel a bit off, maybe it's my imagination
00:35:572 (35572|5) - Move to 7
00:37:000 (37000|5) - Move to 7
00:37:714 (37714|6) - Move to 4
00:38:072 (38072|5) - Move to 3
00:38:786 (38786|0) - Move to 6
00:39:143 (39143|6) - Move to 4
00:39:500 (39500|5) - Move to 3
00:40:214 (40214|0) - Move to 6
01:46:107 (106107|6) - This LN feels weird. Move it to 01:46:286.
01:53:429 (113429|3) - This LN feels weird. Either make it end at 01:53:964 instead of 01:53:786 OR delete it and add notes to 3, 4 and 5 here 01:53:429 here 01:53:607 and here 01:53:786.
03:28:905 - Add note to 1 - I can't actually hear this sound well enough to tell if it's like this or the way you have it
03:28:964 (208964|0) - Remove
04:26:411 (266411|3) - Remove - Making the notes line up to music
04:26:629 (266629|4) - Remove
04:26:574 - Add 4
04:26:683 - Add 5
Topic Starter
Kruzon
omg thanks a lot Hestia kami sama, let me know if you need modding on your map i will mod it right away :)

Topic Starter
Kruzon

Hestia- wrote:

[Normal]
00:34:857 - The patterns after this part feel a bit off, maybe it's my imagination probably your imagination haha
00:35:572 (35572|5) - Move to 7 i don't want it to have the same column as 00:37:714 (37714|6) - which is allocated on col 7 for representing the vocal pitch
00:37:000 (37000|5) - Move to 7 same reason as above
00:37:714 (37714|6) - Move to 4 column 7 will be left wide empty if i do so, i decided to keep it
00:38:072 (38072|5) - Move to 3 sure, moved to 3
00:38:786 (38786|0) - Move to 6 i rather keep it for pattern repetition purpose, biasing it with 00:39:143 (39143|6,39500|5,39857|4) -
00:39:143 (39143|6) - Move to 4 column 7 is more appropriate, it seems, i decided to go along with the stair pattern
00:39:500 (39500|5) - Move to 3 intertwine with my statement above
00:40:214 (40214|0) - Move to 6 i am repeating these pattern 00:40:214 (40214|0,40572|3,41643|0,42000|3) -
01:46:107 (106107|6) - This LN feels weird. Move it to 01:46:286. hmm.. but the sound exactly strikes in at current placemm i'll put it on the white line
01:53:429 (113429|3) - This LN feels weird. Either make it end at 01:53:964 instead of 01:53:786 OR delete it and add notes to 3, 4 and 5 here 01:53:429 here 01:53:607 and here 01:53:786. nice catch, fixed
03:28:905 - Add note to 1 - I can't actually hear this sound well enough to tell if it's like this or the way you have it im keeping it simple herebut perhaps i will add it on hard instead c:
03:28:964 (208964|0) - Remove it's part of the guitar stream
04:26:411 (266411|3) - Remove - Making the notes line up to music agreed, fixed
04:26:629 (266629|4) - Remove very nice find, fixed and moved the remaining note to column 4
04:26:574 - Add 4 i'd like to keep it simple at this point
04:26:683 - Add 5 same reason as above

Thank you for your modding, I appreciate your help c:


Updaterino

schwarzvgrune
irc mod

13:55 schwarzvgrune: u there?
14:00 Kruzon: yes
14:00 Kruzon: sorry was away
14:00 Kruzon: grune, i have 1 question
14:00 schwarzvgrune: ?
14:01 *Kruzon is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/718787 Tiara - be with you [Normal]]
14:01 Kruzon: 01:46:286 (106286|6) - actually starts on the blue line right?
14:02 schwarzvgrune: `actually i was thinking of modding it via irc chat
14:03 schwarzvgrune: 01:46:286 (106286|6) - this follows what? if guitar then its correct
14:03 Kruzon: oh that's also cool
14:03 Kruzon: correct?
14:03 Kruzon: you mean on the white or blue line
14:03 schwarzvgrune: 01:46:643 - yes, but then you need to add a note here. the pitch changes here.
14:03 schwarzvgrune: 01:46:286 (106286|6) - this on white line, correct already
14:04 Kruzon: try adjust it to beat snap divisor of 1/6
14:04 schwarzvgrune: 01:49:143 (109143|0,109500|5) - << exactly the same with this one
14:04 Kruzon: 01:46:167 (106167|6) - how about this placement
14:04 Kruzon: yes
14:04 Kruzon: i feared that i allocated it out of pattern rather than the right sound placement
14:05 schwarzvgrune: http://puu.sh/iSw8I/6ee14a685a.jpg 4 pitch, should be snapped like that. but cuz its normal so just use the original snap
14:06 schwarzvgrune: but this is exactly the same though.. http://puu.sh/iSwbE/35cb0eb8e0.jpg so should be snapped
14:06 Kruzon: yes
14:06 schwarzvgrune: wrong, i mean a note after that LN should be added
14:07 Kruzon: this is suffice though 01:49:500 (109500|5) -
14:07 schwarzvgrune: 01:46:643 - there is guitar sound that is exactly the same with 01:49:500 (109500|5) -
14:07 schwarzvgrune: and also its neater right for pattern
14:08 schwarzvgrune: http://puu.sh/iSwgQ/977e45721b.jpg
14:08 schwarzvgrune: 01:52:714 (112714|4) - snap this until white lines, this is normal so no need for complex snap imo.
14:08 Kruzon: alright then
14:09 schwarzvgrune: if you want to follow this 01:52:714 (112714|4) - , then this one 01:53:429 (113429|3) - should be snapped 1/4 shorter than your current arrangement
14:09 schwarzvgrune: 00:17:714 - a new phase after 4 x 4/4, utilising 2 note is much more appropriate
14:09 Kruzon: it was 1/4 shorter last time
14:10 schwarzvgrune: i see
14:10 schwarzvgrune: maybe just snap it continuously for simplicity
14:10 Kruzon: thought of making it simple by connecting it to same length as upcoming ln
14:10 Kruzon: okay
14:10 schwarzvgrune: 00:14:857 - 4 x 4/4 phase. use 2 notes here?
14:10 schwarzvgrune: 00:20:572 - same reason
14:10 schwarzvgrune: 00:26:286 -
14:10 schwarzvgrune: 00:29:143 -
14:11 schwarzvgrune: 00:28:786 - adding a note here would be nice since the vocal pitch changes, to give emphasis imo
14:11 Kruzon: for this difficulty, i just mod apparent strong sound like this 00:15:572 (15572|5,15572|4) -
14:11 Kruzon: this kind of sound i gave 2 notes
14:11 schwarzvgrune: 00:29:143 (29143|4,29857|4,29857|2,30572|3,30929|0,31286|4,31286|6) - just that it looks neater with this one, pattern fits well
14:12 schwarzvgrune: yes i realise that
14:12 schwarzvgrune: though i think it would still be nice to give the emphasis
14:12 schwarzvgrune: but its up to you
14:12 Kruzon: i will follow your suggestion regarding 00:28:429 (28429|3) -
14:12 schwarzvgrune: my reason is that this song is very slow
14:12 schwarzvgrune: and the beat is very clearly emphasised
14:12 Kruzon: yes
14:12 Kruzon: i will follow vocal for better emphasizing the notes
14:12 schwarzvgrune: so the 4 x 4/4 is very different and thus mapping that would be nice imo, but then again this is just a suggestion
14:13 schwarzvgrune: 00:28:786 - yeah then add a note for those 2 red lines00:29:500 -
14:13 Kruzon: don't worry, just mod to your heart content
14:13 schwarzvgrune: 00:32:000 - also emphasis, same reason,
14:13 schwarzvgrune: 00:32:357 (32357|2,32714|2) - no reason to jack. revamp.
14:13 schwarzvgrune: move to 5 would be nice. pitch of the guitar is also different
14:14 schwarzvgrune: http://puu.sh/iSwwD/4baa10bc4d.jpg
14:14 schwarzvgrune: 00:34:857 (34857|4,34857|2,34857|6) - 3 notes here, imo, is not justified, the beat is not loud enough. emphasising with 2 notes are sufficient imo
14:15 schwarzvgrune: 00:37:000 (37000|5,37000|2,37357|1,37714|6) - background pitched beat emphasis, how about using 2 notes consistently here?
14:15 schwarzvgrune: 00:40:572 - 2 noet
14:15 Kruzon: fixed all
14:15 schwarzvgrune: these all are suggestions... dont take it for granted ;w;
14:16 schwarzvgrune: 00:43:429 (43429|6,44143|4,44143|1,44857|0) - use 2 notes for all here, to emphasise the beat and the vocal at the same time
14:16 schwarzvgrune: 00:46:286 - 2 notes, phase change, emphasis
14:16 schwarzvgrune: 00:49:143 - same
14:16 schwarzvgrune: 00:52:000 -
14:16 schwarzvgrune: 00:54:857 -
14:17 schwarzvgrune: 00:57:000 - use 2 notes? emphasise the different beat, this also gives variation. the song is slow, it would be nice if you could give emphasis on parts that is slightly diffeent than the other to vary the pattern as well
14:17 schwarzvgrune: 01:00:572 (60572|5,63429|5) - 2 notes
14:17 schwarzvgrune: 01:05:572 (65572|4,65572|2,65929|1,66286|6) - 2 notes for each here, emphasise the beat as well as the vocal
14:17 schwarzvgrune: 01:09:143 - use 2 notes
14:18 schwarzvgrune: 01:08:786 (68786|6) - how about change this into LN, to also express that sound you know what i mean. (so you express that sound as well as the vocal with this 1 note)
14:18 schwarzvgrune: 01:10:572 - oh no needs 2 here... this one is not suggestion. obvious emphasise
14:18 schwarzvgrune: 01:12:000 - this one 2 notes
14:19 schwarzvgrune: 01:13:429 (73429|5,74857|6) - 2 notes, emphasise on the BG pitched instrument / beat
14:20 schwarzvgrune: ignore placing here, but something like this would give much more emphasis
14:20 schwarzvgrune: 01:18:250 -
14:20 schwarzvgrune: http://puu.sh/iSwL8/08696c0309.jpg
14:20 schwarzvgrune: so adjust if you agree
14:20 schwarzvgrune: 01:22:357 (82357|6,82714|6) - no eason o jack, pitch is different, lower one move to 6
14:20 schwarzvgrune: or 5
14:21 schwarzvgrune: 01:23:072 - add a note to signify the vocal as well?
14:21 schwarzvgrune: 01:26:286 - this and so on until the end, if you agree, then use 2 notes for every 4 x 4/4 . at least to me its very obviously emphasised and i can tell the difference right away. if you utilise 2 notes on these parts as well it would give more emphasise and imo, would be easier to read.
14:22 schwarzvgrune: 01:32:000 - new phase, need 2.. either you like it or not ;w;
14:22 schwarzvgrune: 01:37:357 - add a note, vocal, same reason as earlier
14:22 schwarzvgrune: 101:40:214 -
14:24 schwarzvgrune: 01:46:286 (106286|6,109143|0) - adding another 1 sn would give more emphasise imo
14:24 schwarzvgrune: 01:57:714 (117714|1) - vocal? if yes extend another 2/4
14:24 schwarzvgrune: until red line
14:24 schwarzvgrune: 02:03:429 - guitar emphasis as well, better use 2
14:24 schwarzvgrune: 02:06:286 - new phase, use 2
14:25 schwarzvgrune: 02:19:857 (139857|6) - optional, extend this until next white note.
14:26 schwarzvgrune: 02:29:143 - new phase, add 1 more note
14:26 schwarzvgrune: 02:37:714 (157714|4,157714|6) - you use 2 here o.o surprisingly..
14:26 schwarzvgrune: so do that on other place as well would be better imo
14:26 Kruzon: i just learn today we can actually increase note density to emphasize the song based on vocal loudness as well
14:26 schwarzvgrune: 02:39:679 - add a note
14:26 schwarzvgrune: yes it is
14:27 schwarzvgrune: if you're mapping vocal o.o
14:27 schwarzvgrune: 02:40:572 - aadd another note, or 2 notes. chorus + new phase
14:27 schwarzvgrune: 02:40:393 - add a note too?
14:28 schwarzvgrune: 02:45:214 (165214|4,165572|3,165572|5,165929|6,166286|2,166643|3,167000|0,167000|2,167714|4,168072|3,168429|6,168429|4) - same as above i think, adjust if you agree
14:28 schwarzvgrune: 02:51:107 - add a note..?
14:28 schwarzvgrune: 02:52:000 - new phase, 2 or 3 notes.
14:28 schwarzvgrune: 02:53:072 - add 1 note
14:29 schwarzvgrune: and so on,
14:29 schwarzvgrune: maybe you can try adding and adjusting if you agree.
14:29 schwarzvgrune: tell me if you reject everything
14:29 schwarzvgrune: so i'll continue
14:29 Kruzon: no
14:29 Kruzon: i didnt reject
14:29 schwarzvgrune: the second half is similar with 1st half
14:29 schwarzvgrune: >_<"
14:29 Kruzon: yes
14:29 Kruzon: that's why
14:29 Kruzon: well
14:29 schwarzvgrune: ok then i'll wait <3
14:29 schwarzvgrune: you can update if there is any...
14:30 schwarzvgrune: then i'll recheck
14:30 schwarzvgrune: this is just a suggestion but why not make easy nm hard instead?
14:30 Kruzon: hmm
14:31 Kruzon: it felt like this map is at its limit
14:31 Kruzon: oh wait
14:31 Kruzon: but if i made 3 diff
14:31 Kruzon: then ill juse all your suggestion to normal?
14:31 Kruzon: lol
14:32 Kruzon: for now i agreed i should focus my density to emphasize
14:32 Kruzon: and i definitely agreed about the phase
14:32 Kruzon: so for this diff, i think new phase should at least have 2 notes
14:33 Kruzon: 1 note is weird
14:33 schwarzvgrune: well that is what i thought of
14:33 schwarzvgrune: 1 note is weird
14:33 schwarzvgrune: except if its normal
14:33 schwarzvgrune: sorry
14:33 schwarzvgrune: except if its easy
14:33 schwarzvgrune: where you just want to water down everything to fits the difficulty limit
14:33 Kruzon: yes
14:34 Kruzon: to be honest i want to make 3 diff
14:34 schwarzvgrune: do you like this song
14:34 schwarzvgrune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyID-UQi_bY
14:34 Kruzon: but i hate the fact the hardest one wont even reach 2 stars
14:34 schwarzvgrune: i want to map it in the future.
14:34 schwarzvgrune: the hardest can be raised imo
14:34 Kruzon: thus normal and hard share the same tag
14:34 schwarzvgrune: can be raised to hard i think
14:34 Kruzon: i see
14:35 Kruzon: then it all goes to chord spamming
14:35 Kruzon: lol
14:35 schwarzvgrune: well but as long as its appropriate
14:35 schwarzvgrune: how about mapping the main vocal and vocal accompaniments as well?
14:35 Kruzon: that's what im doing
14:35 Kruzon: and for the current hard
14:35 Kruzon: i do notes layering
14:35 Kruzon: still not suffice tho
14:35 schwarzvgrune: not done yet o.o?
14:36 Kruzon: its done but
14:36 schwarzvgrune: i mean for hd
14:36 Kruzon: shiki change the offset one day
14:36 Kruzon: so some notes that has different snap
14:36 Kruzon: goes random
14:36 Kruzon: not some
14:36 Kruzon: but many
14:36 Kruzon: lol
14:36 Kruzon: previously the guitar stream in hard are mostly 1/6 and 1/12
14:37 Kruzon: now those notes are scattering around the world
14:37 Kruzon: idk
14:37 Kruzon: you know what
14:37 Kruzon: your modding tempted me to make a normal
14:37 Kruzon: and make this an easy
14:37 Kruzon: this is what i honestly though
14:38 Kruzon: all of them are mostly relevant to a normal
14:38 Kruzon: and ofc, it's reasonable
14:38 schwarzvgrune: i see o.o
14:38 schwarzvgrune: let me see what i can do for hd
14:38 Kruzon: hmm i hope i can somehow make the hard one a hard
14:38 schwarzvgrune: i'll try to spike it without overmap
14:39 Kruzon: grune
14:39 Kruzon: i dont mind if you gd it
14:39 Kruzon: if you want
14:39 Kruzon: just take my current hd as a base
14:40 Kruzon: well if its really decided i made 3 difficulties out of this
14:40 Kruzon: let me know if you want to gd the hard ones
14:41 schwarzvgrune: well apparently you can
14:42 schwarzvgrune: no need <3
14:42 schwarzvgrune: you can do it
14:42 schwarzvgrune: i believe in you >w<b
14:42 schwarzvgrune: here here look its becomes 2.56
14:42 Kruzon: alright then
14:42 schwarzvgrune: wait
14:42 schwarzvgrune: i'll upload
14:42 Kruzon: wtf
14:42 Kruzon: lol
14:42 Kruzon: sure lemme see
14:43 schwarzvgrune: http://puu.sh/iSxIC/3b33a027e9.osu see the first 50 sec
14:43 schwarzvgrune: and IGNORE the placement
14:43 schwarzvgrune: i just add note randomly according to the emphasis
14:44 schwarzvgrune: 00:20:572 (20572|0,22000|5,22000|1,22000|3,22089|4,22179|3,22268|4,22357|1,22357|2,22357|3,22447|4,22536|3,22536|5,22625|4,22714|2,22714|3,22714|5,22714|6,22893|1,23072|4,23072|6,23072|2) - the part where you can spike
14:45 Kruzon: w
14:45 schwarzvgrune: i dont know how can you survive without spamming LN in this kind of song..
14:45 *Kruzon is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/719059 Tiara - be with you [7K HARD TEST]]
14:45 schwarzvgrune: i'd definitely use a lot of LN if it were me XD
14:46 Kruzon: yaa that should be more interesting
14:46 Kruzon: i think i was just being cautious
14:46 schwarzvgrune: lots of ppl hates LN
14:46 Kruzon: lack of confident as well probably
14:46 schwarzvgrune: well thats good i think
14:46 schwarzvgrune: not like me screwing up my first second map so badly
14:46 Kruzon: but still you are right this song fit well with rain of lns
14:46 schwarzvgrune: XD
14:46 Kruzon: nah
14:46 schwarzvgrune: RANK THIS OKAY!
14:46 schwarzvgrune: RANK THIS
14:47 schwarzvgrune: I LIKE THIS!
14:47 Kruzon: haha
14:47 Kruzon: usually i would just give up
14:47 Kruzon: but idk i think i want at least one ranked map
14:47 schwarzvgrune: you can do it!
14:47 Kruzon: so i will continue, slowly but steadily, hopefully
14:47 Kruzon: ayye thanks
14:48 Kruzon: 00:22:000 (22000|3,22000|5,22089|4,22179|3,22268|4,22357|3,22357|2,22447|4,22536|5,22536|3,22625|4,22714|2,22714|5,22714|3) -
14:48 Kruzon: holy shit
14:48 Kruzon: haha
14:48 schwarzvgrune: i can *help* you push through this
14:48 schwarzvgrune: well its appropriate though o.o
14:48 schwarzvgrune: there is a trill <3
14:48 schwarzvgrune: can adjust
14:48 Kruzon: yes
14:48 schwarzvgrune: make it stream probably
14:48 Kruzon: it's reasonable
14:49 Kruzon: hmm
14:49 schwarzvgrune: 00:22:893 (22893|1,23250|0) - the harpshichord sound still continues here, you can use 2 notes here as well
14:49 Kruzon: i will make a normal after all
14:49 schwarzvgrune: with that its already 2.57 so its a real hard o.o
14:50 Kruzon: yes
14:50 Kruzon: i
14:50 schwarzvgrune: do i post this on your thread?
14:50 Kruzon: need to somehow make a normal
14:50 schwarzvgrune: our conversation
14:50 Kruzon: with 2
14:50 Kruzon: yes
14:50 Kruzon: i will also credit you as well
14:50 schwarzvgrune: no need
14:50 Kruzon: you dont have any idea how much you help
14:50 schwarzvgrune: << im bad boi so i want kudosu XD
14:50 Kruzon: nah its my style
14:50 schwarzvgrune: but i tot u mad at me ;w;
14:50 schwarzvgrune: because of wrong mod
14:50 Kruzon: wtf
14:51 schwarzvgrune: the hd
14:51 Kruzon: hell no
14:51 Kruzon: i was just sad you delete it
14:51 schwarzvgrune: oh..
14:51 Kruzon: it felt like im the bad guy
14:51 schwarzvgrune: i save it...
14:51 Kruzon: lol
Topic Starter
Kruzon
thanks a lot :)
Crono
M4M

Normal

0 l 1 l 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6

00:13:786 add note like at 00:16:643?
00:17:714 (17714|4) - the vocal pitch jumps further then this imo. Move to 5
00:20:572 (20572|4) - Same as above, or keep for pitch variation
If your gonna have a void at 00:35:929 perhaps you should also delete 00:38:786 (38786|0) to make it consistent
01:20:393 (80393|5) - your not following vocal pitch here and the drum sound is too subtle. either add a hitsound here. possibly even move it to 01:20:572 (80572|6)
01:22:357 (82357|6,82714|6,82714|3) - left hand feels really empty here ( for those of us who use four fingers on right hand anyway ).
02:00:572 (120572|4,120929|3,121286|6,121286|4,121643|2,122000|5,122357|4,122714|2,122714|0) - perhaps you could add a note to column 0 or 1 somewhere here? I know your pitch focused here but the snares can make up for this.
03:55:572 (235572|4,235929|5,236286|6,236643|4,237000|5,237179|4,237357|3) - Are these following pitch by any chance? the high pitch piano sounds more dominant on the left ear and thus I think some of these would be better there shifted to the left. Not only that but left hand feels almost empty here. I'm not too sure how to change this though so it's your call. (well the whole mod is lol).
04:30:941 (270941|5,271132|3,271132|1) - The hitsounds make this part feel weird, perhaps you could turn it down for these

Hope this helps ^_^
schwarzvgrune
go for rank, some stars to show you my support :)
thanks for always helping me >w<
indyinyou
love this song ;)
Topic Starter
Kruzon
poi
komo_desu
garbage
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