But my bg isn't anywhere near a solid blue color lol. Tbh, now that i think about it, its better to consider the readability of the approach circle based on its entire play time, not just screen shots. It plays just fine for me. Calling it unreadable is completely inaccurate but semantics aside, waiting for Loctav/ztrot.
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No.ziin wrote:
The dark blue combo color clearly violates the rules.
There was a topic about combo colors saying that rules should be added in ranking criteria for black and white combo being hard to read (I disagree with white lol) but anyway, it got denied. So even there your dark blue color is out of subject. I agree it can look a bit odd at first sight on 100% dim but it's totally readable and if I personally disagree with it I can just put my own skin combo.
Anyway, what we're saying is that it's a minor thing and doesn't warrant a (last minute) DQ. I mean, the topic cleary shows that nobody cares of it.
I call it blending in with the background, not unreadable. The only unreadable color is black on black.monstrata wrote:
But my bg isn't anywhere near a solid blue color lol. Tbh, now that i think about it, its better to consider the readability of the approach circle based on its entire play time, not just screen shots. It plays just fine for me. Calling it unreadable is completely inaccurate but semantics aside, waiting for Loctav/ztrot.
That being said, the dark blue color is significantly less readable than the other colors in the top left corner of the playfield. The QATs and myself agree that this is too much.
There are times when black and white can be appropriate, thus it shouldn't be a rule.Yales wrote:
I mean, the topic cleary shows that nobody cares of it.
Breaking any rule warrants a DQ.Yales wrote:
Anyway, what we're saying is that it's a minor thing and doesn't warrant a (last minute) DQ.
Since the map stays readable there's nothing wrong. And you said yourself that combo colors doesn't need any rule.ziin wrote:
Breaking any rule warrants a DQ.
Breaking any rule warrants a DQ. However combo color isn't a rule. So there's no broken rule here. -> Abusive disqualification.
White combo color on black background is fine. Black combo color on white background (while silly and I'd advise against it) is also fine. Black on red is fine. Combo color is a rule, you can't have it blending into the background.Yales wrote:
Since the map stays readable there's nothing wrong. And you said yourself that combo colors doesn't need any rule.ziin wrote:
Breaking any rule warrants a DQ.
Breaking any rule warrants a DQ. However combo color isn't a rule. So there's no broken rule here. -> Abusive disqualification.
combo color is fine/readable for me
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Where does it say the specific color I chose is unrankable? Only pure black and white are objectively dq'able. I'm referring to qat when saying the color is apparently unreadable.
Ziin- blending is subjective, your color number jargon assumes a bg that is a solid color, which is not the case.
Ziin- blending is subjective, your color number jargon assumes a bg that is a solid color, which is not the case.
Yes, the rule is subjective. My jargon assumes a solid color because that section of the map is a mostly solid color, which is the only trouble area.monstrata wrote:
Ziin- blending is subjective, your color number jargon assumes a bg that is a solid color, which is not the case.
Can you really say that this does not blend at all?
played absolutely fine to me. imo orange is worse lol
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Can you really say that this does not blend at all?
Point is, circles and sliders don't move, therefore they can be considered based on screenshots alone, but the approach circle moves. Saying it's "unreadable" based on strategically cropped screen-shots is poor judgement.
I actually tested it 0% dim (which didn't happen in 2 years lol) with my own skin, which gives a way more darker blue than it is with default skin http://puu.sh/iFh8c/de7867af31.jpg and I had no problem at all fcing (and so read) it first try. There's really no problem with this color. lol
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Talked with ztrot, and it looks like it's going to take a long time before the contest even gets looked at. This sucks, because the changes (very minimal) are easily applied. I'm considering just making the adequate changes pointed out in the disqualification post and moving on with things. pishi, captin, what do you two think?
Insane> Lower AR to 8.8
Combo Color > delete the dark blue color
Hitsounds > Replace the claps with soft-whistles (or nothing).
Insane> Lower AR to 8.8
Combo Color > delete the dark blue color
Hitsounds > Replace the claps with soft-whistles (or nothing).
I love this map, the song is awesome too 
awesome work in this beatmap.
awesome work in this beatmap.
do itmonstrata wrote:
pishi, captin, what do you two think?
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Problem with contesting a dq is that its only run by two people, and neither of which are the qat responsible for dq'ing the map. There is no longer a system in place to discuss points with the QATs and/or to see and better understand the QAT's perspective on subjective DQ's. Everyone makes mistakes, QATs included. Posting under the name "Quality Assurance Team" means you are speaking on the team's behalf. It doesn't mean the entire team has gone through the map and came to the same conclusion.
If you guys want to post as a "team" it would be nice if your posts were more thorough too, because the DQ's back when dq's were handled by individual members were often far more helpful and didn't (intention or not) offend the mapper as much. Anonymity allows one to be harsher with words without as many drawbacks. Calling that blue combo color "unreadable" by any standard was exaggerating lol.
Anyways, lets get this rolling again
If you guys want to post as a "team" it would be nice if your posts were more thorough too, because the DQ's back when dq's were handled by individual members were often far more helpful and didn't (intention or not) offend the mapper as much. Anonymity allows one to be harsher with words without as many drawbacks. Calling that blue combo color "unreadable" by any standard was exaggerating lol.
Anyways, lets get this rolling again
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oops. removed clap.
boop
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talked with pishi. we decided to remove the claps from the later section 00:21:656 - 00:30:545 - as well because the QAT bot's dq was aimed at there being too many hitsounds in a relatively quiet section. i'm fine with this.
sry about my internet lol i literally didnt get any replies on irc.
sry about my internet lol i literally didnt get any replies on irc.
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sick edits b r o
Regrats!, i hope it won't DQed again
Suddenly I found this mapset requalified.Regratz monstrata :3
congratulations <3 o(≧v≦)o~~
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We made it!!!
Thanks for all the support! specially pishi <3 mp3 editing op.
Thanks for all the support! specially pishi <3 mp3 editing op.
I'm late (= A ='''')
Congratz monstrata~!
Very nice mappu <3
Congratz monstrata~!
Very nice mappu <3