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Well I'm glad this is easier than FLOWER and much more reasonable for rank and all :p
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Get ready for 7.8 boys
Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?
Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this
Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this
It has 14 mods, I don't see the issue with itA Mystery wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?
Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this
Since when does the amount of mods equal the quality of a map?Wookiezi wrote:
It has 14 mods, I don't see the issue with itA Mystery wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?
Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this
I'm sorry but that doesn't mean anything.
If you actaully have problems with the map, no one is stopping you from pointing it out in a mod, as the chance of it making it to full ranking without ever having its bubble burst is pretty slim. Complaining is fine, but you can at least be constructive about it.A Mystery wrote:
Since when does the amount of mods equal the quality of a map?
I'm sorry but that doesn't mean anything.
But I'm not even complaining, it's just something I thought about it, an opinion, and I don't feel obligated to mod it. It's just that some things looked so... random to me (judging from a quick look in the editor). I can't understand what the mappers' intentions are, I know that, but it doesn't look ready to me.DankHomie wrote:
If you actaully have problems with the map, no one is stopping you from pointing it out in a mod, as the chance of it making it to full ranking without ever having its bubble burst is pretty slim. Complaining is fine, but you can at least be constructive about it.
Well, as one of the BNG has given this a look over and deemed it rankable, I'd say it's ready. A quick look in the editor compared to a full in-depth analysis by multiple BNG members isn't much.A Mystery wrote:
But I'm not even complaining, it's just something I thought about it, an opinion, and I don't feel obligated to mod it. It's just that some things looked so... random to me (judging from a quick look in the editor). I can't understand what the mappers' intentions are, I know that, but it doesn't look ready to me.DankHomie wrote:
If you actaully have problems with the map, no one is stopping you from pointing it out in a mod, as the chance of it making it to full ranking without ever having its bubble burst is pretty slim. Complaining is fine, but you can at least be constructive about it.
That is true, however, it can't be denied that there are a lot of maps lately getting qualified which are definitely not ready, resulting in an unqualification right after that. I'm afraid it will just be the case with this one, one of the reasons being that it's extremely hard. Unqualifying a map shouldn't be natural, so I recommend the mapper to at least get an in-depth look by a QAT for example, just to be sure.
>inb4 popped cuz tags are wrong :^)
I agree with this. Unqualification should not be happening as often as it is, the map should checked thoroughly enough to where unqualification is unlikely.A Mystery wrote:
That is true, however, it can't be denied that there are a lot of maps lately getting qualified which are definitely not ready, resulting in an unqualification right after that. I'm afraid it will just be the case with this one, one of the reasons being that it's extremely hard. Unqualifying a map shouldn't be natural, so I recommend the mapper to at least get an in-depth look by a QAT for example, just to be sure.
Although having all maps that are bubbled being ranked would make the bubbling process useless, as the point of it seems to be its ability to attract more mods to a map before the beatmap itself is set into stone.
I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.A Mystery wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?
Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this
Why? So that people can complain afterwards something like "just because you got X player to mod it doesn't make it any more rankable"?sukiNathan wrote:
I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.
why should it matter? time freeze is ranked and no one has come really close to FCing itSeafighter wrote:
This is epic
But, How is anyone going to FC this if its 7.83 stars ?
My only suggestion for this map would be to lower the OD slightly, even to 9.5~ or so.
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Doomsday got a 1600x combo but failed. That would be quite a lot of PP if he passed that._mrcool wrote:
why should it matter? time freeze is ranked and no one has come really close to FCing itSeafighter wrote:
This is epic
But, How is anyone going to FC this if its 7.83 stars ?
Time Freeze is FC-able. Guys like rrtyui and cookiezi could FC Time Freeze.
hm idk maybe causeWoddles wrote:
Why? So that people can complain afterwards something like "just because you got X player to mod it doesn't make it any more rankable"?sukiNathan wrote:
I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.
Their abilities to mod a map like this would be stronger than others?
BAM
Topic Starter
then feel free to point out whatever you think lacks qualityA Mystery wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?
Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this
neither accepted a request beforesukiNathan wrote:
I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.
Few people have already.CptBlackBird wrote:
if anyone passes this map I will die
I'll mod this for you :
fack your cs4.5 jumps
OD10 op but necessary so ok
rest is cool pls keep the bursts at the end
Kappa
fack your cs4.5 jumps
OD10 op but necessary so ok
rest is cool pls keep the bursts at the end
Kappa
dank mod, 420/10Kynan wrote:
I'll mod this for you :
fack your cs4.5 jumps
OD10 op but necessary so ok
rest is cool pls keep the bursts at the end
Kappa
I thought i'd throw my two cents in here, seeing as this map is getting quite some attention. Short mod, since i'm nowhere near the skill level required to adequately judge gameplay on this map lol.
Good luck!
- Combo colors 3 and 4 are really similar... to the point where its actually very difficult to tell them apart even in editor. (I'm using default skin).
- 00:58:319 (1,2,1) - Feels weird to have a large jump from 1>2 and then a small jump and good flow into 00:58:569 (1) - . Shouldn't you be putting some emphasis onto that note? You did so with these patterns:00:56:444 (2,1) - Using a flow break, 01:00:444 (2,1) - Flow break too, and01:04:444 (2,1) - And here.
- 01:08:444 (2,1) - ^ Should have a harsher flow, that or emphasize this transition somehow.
- 01:11:819 (1,2,3,1) - Imo, spacing like this can be hard to read because you use the same spacing for 1/2 gaps (01:11:819 (1,2,3) - ) and 1/1 gaps (01:12:069 (3,1) - ). Like, try moving 2 to coordinates 410||179 for better clarity.
- 01:15:569 (9,1,2,3,1) - Spacing could also be improved here imo, for better clarity.
- 01:31:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Idk man... this shape looks a bit weird compared to the shape you used for the first half of the stream.
- 02:37:569 (1,2,3,4) - Wish you could improve this slider formation a bit so there's no overlap with 1>4
- 02:46:818 (2) - Are you sure this is even audible enough to be mapped to a circle? i think making 1 a slider would be better honestly.
- 04:28:166 (1,2,3,4) - Imo using 1/2 sliders here would improve the transition back into 250 bpm. You can keep the circles for the rest of this section, i just feel immediately beginning with circles might be too harsh, ad using sliders can give players slightly more time to adjust.
Good luck!
Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.Woddles wrote:
Why? So that people can complain afterwards something like "just because you got X player to mod it doesn't make it any more rankable"?sukiNathan wrote:
I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.
Topic Starter
i obviously did talk about it with a few players like doomsday, jesus, alumetorz, bahamete, lahpnya, ril, -ackane, -gn and the feedback was mostly positive except for some super irritating patterns ive already changed. they didnt want to fully mod it though, which is understandable
Jesus and alumetorz yes, not so much Ekoro (no offense) since he is more of an EZ mod player which I don't think would be very good for giving judgements on difficulty for this level of map.sukiNathan wrote:
Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.
Also the point of my original post was to point out that regardless of who testplay/mods the map, there will always be people to complain about the map not being adequately tested and modded.
Ekoro mapped 'Everything will Freeze' though.Woddles wrote:
Jesus and alumetorz yes, not so much Ekoro (no offense) since he is more of an EZ mod player which I don't think would be very good for giving judgements on difficulty for this level of map.sukiNathan wrote:
Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.
Also the point of my original post was to point out that regardless of who testplay/mods the map, there will always be people to complain about the map not being adequately tested and modded.
Topic Starter
changed all except
monstrata wrote:
- 01:08:444 (2,1) - ^ Should have a harsher flow, that or emphasize this transition somehow.
it already breaks on 01:08:194 (5,1) - here, so i won't change that even more- 01:31:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Idk man... this shape looks a bit weird compared to the shape you used for the first half of the stream.
uh it's completely fine no big curves or anything just a nice stream- 02:46:818 (2) - Are you sure this is even audible enough to be mapped to a circle? i think making 1 a slider would be better honestly.
YES I AM SURE
Why does that matter? What matters is that they'll probably of greater benefit to the map than others (although they rejected Mazzerin's request already).Woddles wrote:
Jesus and alumetorz yes, not so much Ekoro (no offense) since he is more of an EZ mod player which I don't think would be very good for giving judgements on difficulty for this level of map.Pappy wrote:
Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.
Also the point of my original post was to point out that regardless of who testplay/mods the map, there will always be people to complain about the map not being adequately tested and modded.
Also quote correctly please, that was Pappy not me...
It's not that hard actually as you think - just take a look. There are only 240bpm streams, like 3/4 jump parts, one hard for tap because of 270bpm and CS4.5 with spaced streams and 130~~bpm jumps.
The reason why this have 7.8* is spaceing on streams and CS - like with Time Freeze - i think its rankable and cool. Good luck.
PS. This short 140bpm stacked streams in 1/8 (06:36:808 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - - its like 300bpm? or less/more?
The reason why this have 7.8* is spaceing on streams and CS - like with Time Freeze - i think its rankable and cool. Good luck.
PS. This short 140bpm stacked streams in 1/8 (06:36:808 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - - its like 300bpm? or less/more?
oh,brb have to suicide real quickIVo one wrote:
Few people have already.CptBlackBird wrote:
if anyone passes this map I will die
280bpmNeBuSC2 wrote:
It's not that hard actually as you think - just take a look. There are only 240bpm streams, like 3/4 jump parts, one hard for tap because of 270bpm and CS4.5 with spaced streams and 130~~bpm jumps.
The reason why this have 7.8* is spaceing on streams and CS - like with Time Freeze - i think its rankable and cool. Good luck.
PS. This short 140bpm stacked streams in 1/8 (06:36:808 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - - its like 300bpm? or less/more?
we did something secret here and there
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Mapping an insane map doesn't mean you can play it. I can't pass my own diff at all, and i'll surely not pass this LOLWoddles wrote:
Jesus and alumetorz yes, not so much Ekoro (no offense) since he is more of an EZ mod player which I don't think would be very good for giving judgements on difficulty for this level of map.sukiNathan wrote:
Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.
Also the point of my original post was to point out that regardless of who testplay/mods the map, there will always be people to complain about the map not being adequately tested and modded.
The difficulty isn't something reserved to top-players-mappers or something. As long as it's not nonsense and/or it's structured, it's fine i guess.
Anyway, just looked at the map, and no matter if you'll fix them or not (it has bubble already so idk), i'll still leave a few suggestions, general or not.
- I won't talk about final stream part, even if some streams are very harsh especially with this spacing progression. Else, it's fine, even if i can't play it at all.
- To me, the very high spacing for 1/2 is really unnecessary, although the music is pretty fast, i think that it's way too much and forces everything.
- 04:00:806 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern is kinda confusing to play, maybe use 2 sliders w/ one reverse? it appears several times in this part
Mazzerin wrote:
then feel free to point out whatever you think lacks qualityA Mystery wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?
Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this
This is kinda what I meant, I don't say it is bad or anything.Ekoro wrote:
The map doesn't look that structured to me, but it's probably due to high AR or something, and i can't really see much patterns. Just giving my opinion though, best luck for ranking that!
It's very hard but also doesn't have a real structure, or at least the way I see it. No real recognizable patterns, flow, use of jumps the way most people do... So it's hard for me to judge
But I'm sure your intentions are good 