Update runs better, but with minor lag spikes (dropped around 10-20 fps). When fps is set to limited (180), it causes heavy tearing.
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On my PC, after getting update osu!beta, I don't get the minor lag spikes during play osu!, although the graphics card or sound card rarely gets an update (If I turn off the storyboard in the Options). Runs smoothly, faster response, and better than the version beta earlier. But, I want to ask, why is there no option DirectX? When I open the osu! by pressing the SHIFT key, in the Renderer, there is no option DirectX. Why osu! delete option DirectX?
I'm not sure if i'm just noticing it more because of looking for problems but i seem to be getting much more frequent frame drops whilst playing mania maps with videos than usual.
I know that turning the video off fixes that problem, its just that it seems to be happening more often and i don't play on a potato so its something that shouldn't happen as often as it seems to be (which is around 1 in 5 maps, sometimes at multiple points).
I know that turning the video off fixes that problem, its just that it seems to be happening more often and i don't play on a potato so its something that shouldn't happen as often as it seems to be (which is around 1 in 5 maps, sometimes at multiple points).
The update process occurred smoothly here. And I haven't noticed any lag problem.
The only thing different I noticed was the performance graph that became ugly.
The only thing different I noticed was the performance graph that became ugly.
Update Went smooth and the game runs fine so far (except for one major lag spike, but i'm not 100% sure it was osu's fault)
love the song select sliders! and i'm certainly looking forward to osu!next
love the song select sliders! and i'm certainly looking forward to osu!next
I got this while osu was running: The NVIDIA OpenGL driver lost connection with the display
driver due to exceeding the Windows Time-Out limit and is unable to continue.
The application must close.
Error code: 7
I'm sure this will apply to everyone with a nvidia graphics card, it has been a huge problem with games who are using opengl as their renderer (like Minecraft)
(I only had osu! open)
Latest drivers are installed. GPU: Gtx 750
Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate
driver due to exceeding the Windows Time-Out limit and is unable to continue.
The application must close.
Error code: 7
I'm sure this will apply to everyone with a nvidia graphics card, it has been a huge problem with games who are using opengl as their renderer (like Minecraft)
(I only had osu! open)
Latest drivers are installed. GPU: Gtx 750
Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate
Been running for 3 hours straight. No update problems, no lag, no freeze, no problem whatsoever, video or not.
Works like a charm
FYI:
Cpu: i5 760 quad core @2.8 ghz
Gpu: GTX 660
8gb ram
Running Windows 7
Works like a charm
FYI:
Cpu: i5 760 quad core @2.8 ghz
Gpu: GTX 660
8gb ram
Running Windows 7
The update process went fine, but any beatmaps with background video causes gameplay to lag and stutter slightly (even with 500+ fps). I don't know what's causing that but it wasn't there before the update.
same but mine when watching a map with SB in Cinema mod, it suddenly freezes the game and then the application closed by itself. also when minimizing the app, it suddenly freezes and closed by itself too.Reesespuffs wrote:
The update process went fine, but any beatmaps with background video causes gameplay to lag and stutter slightly (even with 500+ fps). I don't know what's causing that but it wasn't there before the update.
The update did go without error even if it was a bit long (But that was probaably because of my internet which is very buggy tooday I guess). It did update twice even if I already was on Bêta stream.
Going back to stable after it (Because I can't play with these high input lag open GL builds) after it had no issues too.
Going back to stable after it (Because I can't play with these high input lag open GL builds) after it had no issues too.
Updates went without a hitch (now on b20150514.10beta). However, my frame rate dropped from ~200 FPS to ~41 FPS probably due to OGL (1920x1080, fullscreen) but when I go borderless it jumps back to 187 FPS. It's not very smooth though. Scrolling the song list and cursor movement is quite juddery. GPU is GeForce 840M.
EDIT: Just tried playing, found out there's quite a bit of input lag. Can barely SS a Hard map.
EDIT: Just tried playing, found out there's quite a bit of input lag. Can barely SS a Hard map.
well since i'm losing this rig in a few days, might as well dump results here
fps results:
Stable (ogl renderer, fullscreen borderless):
menu - 145
song select - 120
play - 190
lol this pc sucks cock
b20150514.10beta (fullscreen borderless):
menu - 171
song select - 233
play - 300
updates didn't have any problems.
sysinfo dump:
fps results:
Stable (ogl renderer, fullscreen borderless):
menu - 145
song select - 120
play - 190
lol this pc sucks cock
b20150514.10beta (fullscreen borderless):
menu - 171
song select - 233
play - 300
updates didn't have any problems.
sysinfo dump:
Game now starts on whichever monitor the cursor is on instead of main monitor - is this intended?
Relatively same FPS as before using ATI Radeon 7970 GHZ.
Relatively same FPS as before using ATI Radeon 7970 GHZ.
It really smoooth, Now i become better in AR10, but some laging and cause my break combo
framerate in general increased but story-board heavy maps make me lose a lot of frames
Got problem with minimize osu runing on integrated intel hd graphic
Since the new update sometimes when I restart the map the osu! auto-close.
camas_old
Update process was perfect.
The game feels sort of laggy, input-wise (in Catch The Beat, at least for me), but framerate is much smoother and I no longer have any lag spikes.
I did encounter a bug when switching resolutions though, it made sliders halfway disappear though, as seen below:
There is another issue when switching resolutions that I noticed, and that would be the mod icons disappearing.
The game feels sort of laggy, input-wise (in Catch The Beat, at least for me), but framerate is much smoother and I no longer have any lag spikes.
I did encounter a bug when switching resolutions though, it made sliders halfway disappear though, as seen below:
There is another issue when switching resolutions that I noticed, and that would be the mod icons disappearing.
osu! crashed randomly without producing logs ("program have stopped responding"). Only happened twice on the new beta, don't know how to reproduce. Will switch to CE and see if the crash occurs the same way.
Spec:
Windows 7 64-bit Professional
Intel i7 2600K with 16G RAM
ATI Radeon HD6870 (Catalyst 14.12 with OpenGL 6.14.10.13283)
.Net Framework 4.5.2
EDIT: Don't know if this info has any significance but I'll throw it in:
When the beta became unresponsible, the game screen freezes and windows cursor (busy animation) takes over. But there is this small area of approx 128x128px on screen (centred around frozen osu cursor) where the windows cursor returns to "normal" as opposed to 'busy."
Spec:
Windows 7 64-bit Professional
Intel i7 2600K with 16G RAM
ATI Radeon HD6870 (Catalyst 14.12 with OpenGL 6.14.10.13283)
.Net Framework 4.5.2
EDIT: Don't know if this info has any significance but I'll throw it in:
When the beta became unresponsible, the game screen freezes and windows cursor (busy animation) takes over. But there is this small area of approx 128x128px on screen (centred around frozen osu cursor) where the windows cursor returns to "normal" as opposed to 'busy."
This is related to video backgrounds. It occurs when retrying a map a random number of times when they are enabled. Disable them for now.Oinari-sama wrote:
osu! crashed randomly without producing logs ("program have stopped responding"). Only happened twice on the new beta, don't know how to reproduce. Will switch to CE and see if the crash occurs the same way.
Spec:
Windows 7 64-bit Professional
Intel i7 2600K with 16G RAM
ATI Radeon HD6870 (Catalyst 14.12 with OpenGL 6.14.10.13283)
.Net Framework 4.5.2
Don't worry, it's been a known issue for quite some time :p
gamecrashed_old
One thing I went to mention here is that my Editor issues seem to be gone now. I didnt have a single crash on the beta client yet (I had one every ~15 minutes on the stable before I switched).
Frames are fine on beta but overheats computer and causing it to turn off
(this is indeed a problem with my fan, but this has never happened with Directx or on stable for that matter.)
Random Specs I could find.
I run osu! with all detail settings off. 1920x1080 Fullscreen.
(this is indeed a problem with my fan, but this has never happened with Directx or on stable for that matter.)
I run osu! with all detail settings off. 1920x1080 Fullscreen.
Dunno why osu! OpenGL in windowed mode gets a black screen (or sometimes freezing screen) everytime UAC kicks in. I need to restart the client for it to go back to normal. It doesn't happen on DirectX. (if this is a known issue please do tell me.)
OBSERVATIONS:
(fullscreen/windowed) FPS - same as stable
(windowed) Disabled Desktop Composition: Yep, that osu! logo inside a white box, no input delays (ofc lol)
(windowed) Enabled Desktop Composition: the usual osu! logo, slight input delay but better than stable
(windowed) osu! stops responding as I minimize or hide (via bosskey) the game while in autoplay mod.
(fullscreen) osu! stops responding as I switch to another running application or hide (via bosskey) the game while in autoplay mod.
GFX: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family (yeah my pc sucks T_T)
20150518.7beta
OBSERVATIONS:
(fullscreen/windowed) FPS - same as stable
(windowed) Disabled Desktop Composition: Yep, that osu! logo inside a white box, no input delays (ofc lol)
(windowed) Enabled Desktop Composition: the usual osu! logo, slight input delay but better than stable
(windowed) osu! stops responding as I minimize or hide (via bosskey) the game while in autoplay mod.
(fullscreen) osu! stops responding as I switch to another running application or hide (via bosskey) the game while in autoplay mod.
GFX: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family (yeah my pc sucks T_T)
20150518.7beta
Like a lot of people are saying, Better to have DirectX rather than OpenGL, i think it's stupid to remove DX as an renderer.. Me myself cannot play with OGL either.
Is it true that OpenGL fixes the Input lag on Windows 8.1? My aim feels kinda weird also I tried starting osu without dwm.exe (Windows 8.1) and I got a blackscreen on the osu window, tried restarting osu, still same blackscreen.
(build 20150518.7)
If the update really fixes the Input lag then this update rocks.
(build 20150518.7)
If the update really fixes the Input lag then this update rocks.
Is there anything to do about compability/performance with recording software when using OpenGL?
While the game runs better when playing normally, the performance is significantly lower compared to DirectX while recording. Haven't tried streaming yet but i'm probably going to have more trouble with more demanding preset when the difference is this big with local recording.
Another problem is that there seems to be fixed desync every time trying to record in OpenGL. While it's easily fixed it takes some time and it shouldn't happen.
While these videos wasn't uploaded with intention of posting them here they give good reference. Noticed desync problem after uploading OpenGL recording. Tested it couple of times and the video was desynced every time so i switched to DirectX and reuploaded.
System specs:
OS: Windows 7
GPU: Sapphire HD 6870
CPU: AMD FX-6300. Overclocked at 4.4Ghz
RAM: 8GB
Mobo: Asrock something. Not in home to check and probably not relevant information.
Drive: Some old HDD. Shouldn't be too old to slow things down.
Recording settings used:
Software:OBS
Resolution: 1600x900 downscaled to 1280x720
Mode: CRF 17. No bitrate limit. Buffer size of 1000kbps. Audio bitrate of 160kbs.
Encoding preset: Ultrafast (fastest)
Framerate: 120fps in DirectX and 90fps in OpenGL (Changed because of low performance, can't remember exact numbers)
DirectX
Performance: Averages at ~300fps. Occasional barely noticeable lag spikes where it goes under "red zone" which is 240fps.
OpenGL
Performance: Averages at ~260fps. Constantly dipping below red zone. Audio in desync as told earlier.
While the game runs better when playing normally, the performance is significantly lower compared to DirectX while recording. Haven't tried streaming yet but i'm probably going to have more trouble with more demanding preset when the difference is this big with local recording.
Another problem is that there seems to be fixed desync every time trying to record in OpenGL. While it's easily fixed it takes some time and it shouldn't happen.
While these videos wasn't uploaded with intention of posting them here they give good reference. Noticed desync problem after uploading OpenGL recording. Tested it couple of times and the video was desynced every time so i switched to DirectX and reuploaded.
System specs:
OS: Windows 7
GPU: Sapphire HD 6870
CPU: AMD FX-6300. Overclocked at 4.4Ghz
RAM: 8GB
Mobo: Asrock something. Not in home to check and probably not relevant information.
Drive: Some old HDD. Shouldn't be too old to slow things down.
Recording settings used:
Software:OBS
Resolution: 1600x900 downscaled to 1280x720
Mode: CRF 17. No bitrate limit. Buffer size of 1000kbps. Audio bitrate of 160kbs.
Encoding preset: Ultrafast (fastest)
Framerate: 120fps in DirectX and 90fps in OpenGL (Changed because of low performance, can't remember exact numbers)
DirectX
Performance: Averages at ~300fps. Occasional barely noticeable lag spikes where it goes under "red zone" which is 240fps.
OpenGL
Performance: Averages at ~260fps. Constantly dipping below red zone. Audio in desync as told earlier.
I wanted to play solo, but the button just wouldn't get me to singleplayer. I can click it multiple times and nothing happens.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3146715
A restart fixed this.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3146715
A restart fixed this.
Upon updating to the beta the game is no longer playable, as before I would get ~150fps in menu, and ~280-400fps in game with directx, but will only get ~70fps in menu and ~110-140fps in game causing very noticeable stuttering and being completely unplayable with video or storyboard on (Anywhere between 50-70fps).
Running on Intel HD 4000 with dual-channel RAM @ 1680x1050 fullscreen with i5-3210M.
On a side note, running fullscreen on an Intel HD 4400 with dual-channel ram @ 1366x768with an i3-4030U has those issues, but also causes the cursor to disappear, but items are still clickable. The cursor comes back upon switching to borderless.
No other gameplay issues noted, since I can no longer play the game on beta.
Running on Intel HD 4000 with dual-channel RAM @ 1680x1050 fullscreen with i5-3210M.
On a side note, running fullscreen on an Intel HD 4400 with dual-channel ram @ 1366x768with an i3-4030U has those issues, but also causes the cursor to disappear, but items are still clickable. The cursor comes back upon switching to borderless.
No other gameplay issues noted, since I can no longer play the game on beta.
Options > Updates > Release stream: BetaShadering wrote:
How can i have this beta?
Also, on the current status of the beta 20150518.7:
Laggier than usual. Confirmed that I am using the same settings as I was on the original.
Intel GMA 3150 ( D: )peppy wrote:
What graphics card?Mateux wrote:
The second update gave me a white bg with osu! logo.
My game was running at 1fps. I think that is because the game is using OpenGL now.
Thr cursor issue should be resolved on the newest cutting edge build. Could you try it there and see if the fix works for you?Verssesli wrote:
Upon updating to the beta the game is no longer playable, as before I would get ~150fps in menu, and ~280-400fps in game with directx, but will only get ~70fps in menu and ~110-140fps in game causing very noticeable stuttering and being completely unplayable with video or storyboard on (Anywhere between 50-70fps).
Running on Intel HD 4000 with dual-channel RAM @ 1680x1050 fullscreen with i5-3210M.
On a side note, running fullscreen on an Intel HD 4400 with dual-channel ram @ 1366x768with an i3-4030U has those issues, but also causes the cursor to disappear, but items are still clickable. The cursor comes back upon switching to borderless.
No other gameplay issues noted, since I can no longer play the game on beta.
We are still working on getting the performance up on par on intel HD chips. For some reason there are performance issues on those currently.
This may have already been mentioned, but mouse players who play in fullscreen to avoid input lag, will have problems with input lag due to OpenGL, from what I'm aware of the only way to fix it is by changing the windows theme to non-aero, but will there be a work around without the need to switch themes, or are mouse players basically forced to adapt to input the lag.
Topic Starter
Have you even tried running the beta/cutting-edge builds? They support exclusive full screen.
okay, i upgraded to the latest beta, and it runs FLAWLESSLY. (120 fps cap @ 1080p)
additionally, it really does feel like input lag went down (either that, or my brain is actually working today)
specs:
intel core i7 920 - 2.7 GHz
nvidia geforce GT640 w/ 1GB GDDR5 vram
6GB DDR3 RAM
thanks for the openGL shaders :3
additionally, it really does feel like input lag went down (either that, or my brain is actually working today)
specs:
intel core i7 920 - 2.7 GHz
nvidia geforce GT640 w/ 1GB GDDR5 vram
6GB DDR3 RAM
thanks for the openGL shaders :3
I tried both Cutting Edge and Beta on fullscreen, and it does still seem to have abit of input/cursor lag.
Everything else seems to work fine, no fps lag of any kind.
Everything else seems to work fine, no fps lag of any kind.