21:12 Exahilosys: Do you want me to take a look at your map for modding?
21:14 Moway: sure, if you'd like!
21:14 Exahilosys: Sure!
21:15 Exahilosys: I will be modding the insane dif. k?
21:16 Moway: ok
21:16 Exahilosys: Alright, I will be going through the song and we will be talking from here so if you have anyquestions, you can ask me, is that alright?
21:16 Moway: Yeah, for sure
21:16 Exahilosys: Alright, lets do this :3
21:17 Exahilosys: The timing seems fine
21:18 Exahilosys: And I see you are a fan of overlapping circles with sliders
21:18 Moway: yeah, sometimes
21:19 Exahilosys: Hm, here the jump from the 5 to one seems big for such a calm start
21:19 Exahilosys: here 00:03:863 -
21:20 Exahilosys: maybe do it like so?
http://i.imgur.com/ojXJVb4.jpg21:20 Exahilosys: and start a new combo at 2
21:21 Exahilosys: Please give me some feedback
21:21 Moway: I think that is OK right now because slider leniency makes that feel like less of a big jump
21:22 Exahilosys: I would agree with that if it matched the vocalist, but the song has increased tention on the 1 (and indeed needs the jump) but at the 2 is where a new section starts
21:22 Exahilosys: thats why I did it like that on my example
21:23 Exahilosys: there is a jump, and I new section (moving from left-right)
21:23 Exahilosys: and thats why I suggested that you start a new combo at the 2
21:24 Exahilosys: What do you think?
21:25 Exahilosys: also here 00:09:510 - would be nice to reduce distance between 7 and 1 since its too calm for a jump like that >.<, the 1-2-3 is nice though
21:25 Moway: I think for consistency with the rest of the section, I'll leave the NC where it is now. It seems like 00:03:863 (1) isn't part of the previous combo also, so makes sense to me there
21:26 Moway: I'll decrease the spacing on 00:09:510 some
21:26 Exahilosys: I did not say to make 1 part of the previous combo, just make it a new combo of its own
21:26 Exahilosys: (and also put "space" and "-" after times so I can click on them
21:26 Moway: k
21:26 Exahilosys:
21:26 Moway: i'm going to leave that NC as is, think it's fine
21:29 Exahilosys: why not move that 6 00:28:922 - a bit further from the 5... kinda to the belly of the upcoming slider, but a bit out of it
21:30 Exahilosys: Also, I suggest you move that 3 00:36:687 - a bit higher, since it makes a bigger jump to for than the tention of the song needs
21:30 Exahilosys: More up and a tiny bit left
21:31 Moway: making adjustments
21:31 Exahilosys: kk
21:31 Exahilosys: I will keep pointing out stuff
21:32 Exahilosys: It would be nice to move that 4 00:38:804 - right above the last slider, so it makes a jump, but not a too symmetrical one
21:33 Moway: you mean closer to 00:38:451- or just to the left more?
21:33 Moway: 00:38:451
21:33 Moway: 00:38:451 -
21:33 Moway: :[
21:33 Exahilosys: XD
21:34 Exahilosys: here
http://i.imgur.com/V4zSW3c.jpg21:34 Exahilosys: Its selected
21:34 Moway: oh i see
21:35 Exahilosys: boop, I think you should keep these sliders 00:43:392 - circly
21:35 Moway: I think I will leave that as is then, the flow to 00:38:981 - gets a bit awkward then, and the way it is plays with slider leniency stuff
21:36 Moway: i like those ones :3
21:36 Exahilosys: Well there is a slider after that, which will take care of the flow
21:36 Exahilosys: if you want, you could reverse the slider (end to start and start to end)
21:36 Exahilosys: that would feel nice
21:38 Moway: nah, I think i'll leave that. I like how it plays the way it is
21:38 Exahilosys: ok
21:38 Exahilosys: Look what I said after that, about 2 pointy sliders
21:39 Exahilosys: Also, this is another big jump 00:51:687 - that has no tention to be there for
21:39 Moway: Yeah, I like those sliders since they are a bit different than other ones, and the bent part plays well with the flow of tha tsection
21:40 Exahilosys: Ok, Its just a small detail. Truth is I also like them :3
21:40 Moway: decreasing some of the spacing on that jump
21:40 Exahilosys: yup yup
21:40 Moway: I think a bit of a jump is fine on that, but I agree that is too big
21:41 Exahilosys: exactly my thoughts
21:42 Exahilosys: also the jump from the 2 to 3 here 00:53:628 - is kinda big
21:42 Moway: decreased a bit
21:42 Exahilosys: +1
21:43 Exahilosys: same goes for this one (2 to 3) here 00:57:863 - but I think you could keep that since there is enough tention in the song
21:44 Moway: Yeah, I like that one
21:44 Exahilosys: about that 1 here - 00:58:922 not only its an unfitting jump but its also too low on the screen >.<
21:45 Exahilosys: 00:58:922 -
21:45 Exahilosys: And you could move that 01:01:569 - a bit further
21:46 Moway: 00:58:922 - is fine to me since it completes the triangle pattern with the circles before, and it is fine in game
21:47 Moway: moved the 01:01:569 - a bit
21:47 Exahilosys: if you want a perfect triangle pattern you should move that 3 00:59:275 - a bit to the left
21:48 Moway: moved a bit
21:48 Exahilosys: boop, too long of a jump here 01:16:392 - even though there is tension. Better move it a bit to the left
21:49 Exahilosys: You just turned off and on the kiai time here 01:20:098 - >.< I guess you did it for the background effects, right?
21:50 Moway: moved a bit
21:50 Moway: yeah
21:50 Exahilosys: thought so :3
21:50 Moway: the bg music drops out during that part, so I think it fits to turn off the kiai for that whole time instead of just a flash
21:50 Exahilosys: I agree
21:51 Exahilosys: also, I suggest you move that 2 a bit up, since not only its kinda low on the screen but it makes big jumps with both 1 and 3 here 01:21:863 -
21:52 Exahilosys: do it like this for example 01:22:569 -
21:53 Exahilosys: and why not move that 5 01:30:863 - abouve the 6?
21:53 Exahilosys: above *
21:53 Exahilosys: and also start a new combo at the 6
21:53 Exahilosys: here 01:31:039 -
21:53 Moway: instead of moving the (2) up, I moved the (1) so the jump isn't as big,
21:54 Moway: moved 01:30:863 - a bit
21:54 Moway: sure to the new combo
21:54 Exahilosys: the 2 also makes a big jump with the 3... but I guess that is ok since its a slider
21:55 Moway: yeah, the jump fits there though imo with the vocal
21:55 Exahilosys: better move the 4 01:38:098 - closer to the 1 here
21:57 Exahilosys: and why not do it like that
http://i.imgur.com/LqXmuRJ.jpg here 01:40:039
21:57 Moway: sure
21:58 Exahilosys: aaand it would be good to move this 6 01:41:098 - up aswell
21:58 Moway: the way it is now looks better to me, and the angle change is nice there for gameplay I think
21:58 Exahilosys: On my example, the angle is also changed >.<
21:59 Exahilosys: but it is asymmetrical and feels more natural
21:59 Moway: I prefer the way it is now
21:59 Exahilosys: also you get rid of the big jump thats lacks tension
21:59 Moway: moved that other circle up
21:59 Exahilosys: oke
22:00 Exahilosys: It would be nice to remove the drum from these 3 01:42:157 - (6/7/8) so the background instrument can be heard (which is nice)
22:01 Moway: I'll decrease the volume some, but I'll leave the drum sounds since they match the music well
22:02 Exahilosys: that is also a good idea
22:03 Exahilosys: how about doing something like that
http://i.imgur.com/Do0z0my.jpg here 01:47:539 -? It feels nice and calm and is also where the vocalist takes a big breath.
22:04 Exahilosys: Are you there?
22:05 Moway: I think the emphasis with the circle on 01:47:804 - makes sense to me since that's where louder vocal noise is
22:05 Exahilosys: and making the player feel that emphasis by starting from before makes it even better
22:05 Exahilosys: also when he hits that 6 will feel nice, give it a try
22:06 Moway: the problem is that the player will then not click at 01:47:804 if there's a slider end there instead
22:06 Moway: 01:47:804 -
22:06 Moway: the circle lets the player click with the stronger vocal
22:07 Exahilosys: the player does not need to click there, having 2 small slidders alternating together on a part with tention gives the emphasis this part needs
22:07 Exahilosys: tension*
22:08 Exahilosys: and the higherst emphasis is on 7, not 6-end
22:08 Moway: having the slider start at 01:47:628 - also puts more emphasis on 01:47:628 - than on 01:47:804 - , so I'm going to leave it as is
22:10 Exahilosys: the emphasis is not when the player clicks for the first time (6end), it is when the player lifts the finger to click something else fast (7start)
22:11 Exahilosys: So is it a keep or no keep?
22:11 Moway: I'm going to leave this as it is
22:11 Exahilosys: ok
22:11 Moway: just going to keep it
22:11 Exahilosys: kk
22:11 Exahilosys: Aaand that is all I had to indicate here
22:11 Exahilosys: the rest seems fine
22:11 Moway: cool, thanks!
22:11 Exahilosys: And as for my opinion, now that the spacing is fixed this is an amazing map
22:12 Exahilosys: cant wait for it to go ranked :3