senya - Tsuki ni Murakumo Hana ni Kaze [Osu|OsuMania] · forum

19:38 Narcissu: hi~
19:49 [Vincent]: hey wassup
19:49 Narcissu: www
19:50 Narcissu: a……could you mod my map orz
19:51 [Vincent]: what song?
19:51 *Narcissu is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/660947 senya - Tsuki ni Murakumo Hana ni Kaze]
19:52 [Vincent]: sure
19:52 Narcissu: www
19:52 [Vincent]: is an irc mod okay?
19:52 Narcissu: thx 111
19:52 Narcissu: a……need a lunatic
19:52 [Vincent]: hmm?
19:52 [Vincent]: u want mod or gd o.o
19:52 Narcissu: e……i need mod
19:53 [Vincent]: is it okay to mod over here?
19:53 [Vincent]: chat<
19:53 Narcissu: my english very bad ……
19:53 Narcissu: irc…… wait me ask for google……
19:54 [Vincent]: mod over here ~ not in thread
19:55 Narcissu: ok …… but i use translation …… maybe my answer will be very slow
19:55 [Vincent]: hmm okay
19:55 Narcissu: i more hope to …… mod in forum XD
19:58 [Vincent]: smooth and very nice map

19:58 Narcissu: 0.0
19:58 Narcissu: FC……
19:58 [Vincent]: haha
19:59 Narcissu: i play it …… miss 20X
19:59 [Vincent]:

19:59 Narcissu: orz orz orz
19:59 [Vincent]: i play this game too much
20:00 [Vincent]: hmm
20:00 Narcissu: en en
20:01 [Vincent]: this map too good for me to pick out anything bad
20:01 [Vincent]: lol
20:01 Narcissu: #￥%……
20:03 [Vincent]: hmm 01:03:582 (5) - u can ctrl+g?
20:03 [Vincent]: better flow
20:03 Narcissu: ok √
20:05 [Vincent]: 01:44:832 (1) - finish
20:05 Narcissu: ok
20:06 [Vincent]: 00:43:332 (1) - finish?
20:06 [Vincent]: 00:46:332 (1) - ^
20:06 [Vincent]: and there are some more~
20:07 Narcissu: I remember I lost a lot of finish ……
20:07 [Vincent]: lol
20:07 Narcissu: en en ……
20:09 [Vincent]: hmm
20:09 [Vincent]: 02:24:582 (2) - angle may be too sharp
20:09 [Vincent]: for next note
20:10 Narcissu: e ， what should i do ？
20:10 [Vincent]: not sure
20:10 [Vincent]: maybe change the angle differently
20:10 [Vincent]: more to the let<<<
20:10 [Vincent]: left*
20:10 [Vincent]: it plays fine though lol
20:11 Narcissu: 啊……wait me to translate
20:12 [Vincent]: 03:48:582 (5,1) - stack ;_;
20:13 Narcissu: ；w；
20:13 [Vincent]: 03:54:769 (2,3) - swap around rythm?
20:13 [Vincent]: rhythm*
20:13 [Vincent]: so goes up down up down up
20:15 Narcissu: 額……translate dead
20:15 [Vincent]: gg
20:15 Narcissu: ↑↓↑下？
20:15 [Vincent]: yes
20:15 Narcissu: ↓
20:15 Narcissu: :-O
20:17 [Vincent]: http://puu.sh/gFcmM/895c172942.jpg
20:17 Narcissu: 哦哦哦
20:17 Narcissu: ok
20:17 [Vincent]: /savelog
20:17 [Vincent]: lol
20:17 [Vincent]: i try translate
20:17 [Vincent]: ;D
20:18 Narcissu: 233
20:19 [Vincent]: 04:11:457 (5,1) - blanket~
20:19 [Vincent]: O )
20:20 Narcissu: XD
20:21 [Vincent]: 03:27:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - too smooth?
20:21 [Vincent]: lol
20:21 [Vincent]: 02:26:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - angle change
20:21 [Vincent]: 01:00:582 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
20:22 Narcissu: o，i will change some
20:22 Narcissu: The plan is symmetrical……
20:22 [Vincent]: hmm true
20:23 [Vincent]: hmm want to ctrl g this 03:38:457 (4,5) - ?
20:23 [Vincent]: maybe better
20:24 Narcissu: ｏｋ
20:24 Narcissu: ok
20:26 [Vincent]: 03:48:957 (6) - lower?
20:27 Narcissu: lower ???
20:27 [Vincent]: down
20:28 Narcissu: boom
20:31 [Vincent]: hmm that's about it
20:31 [Vincent]: map is very good

Gaia

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Joined May 2013

Gaia 2015-03-22T04:06:29+00:00

安安~

[General]
沒puush我感覺好空喔 ;A;

[Normal]
00:18:582 (4,5) - 最簡單的diff最好別疊吧
00:22:332 (1,2,3) - 建議用 3/2 reverse 滑條因為白>紅>白的節奏有點難
00:38:832 (3) - 歌聲在 00:39:769 - 停喔看你要不要把滑條拉到這
00:49:894 (1,2) - 00:55:332 (1,2,3) - 3/2 滑條+圓圈? 這節奏好像蠻難的
00:52:332 (1,2,3) - ^但用 3/2 reverse
01:22:332 (3) - 01:23:832 (1,2,3,5) - finish在頭上??
01:44:082 (4,5) - 跟之前一樣 (好像也可以包得更好)
02:43:332 (1,2,3) - flow　不怎麼好　owo
02:49:332 (1,2,3) - 02:51:582 (5) - 頭上finish?
03:10:332 (1) - 把這個變直的, 看你喜不喜歡
03:11:832 (3,4,1,2,3) - 1/2 蠻多的, 建議把 03:14:832 (3) - 放在 03:13:332 - 然後放個 1/1 滑條 + 圈
03:35:832 (3,4,5,1) - overlap 有點難看

這樣看看?

03:35:832 (3) - (344,284)
03:36:582 (4) - (408,84)
03:36:957 (5) - (500, 160)
03:37:332 (1) - (420, 252)
03:38:832 (2) - (364, 144)

03:52:332 (1,2,3) - 頭上都可以加個finish喔~
04:16:332 (1,2,3) - ^

[Hard]
whistle 有點多的樣子 orz
00:06:957 (4) - 像這個可以刪掉
00:18:957 (4) - 這個跳得蠻兇的說
00:23:832 (2) - spacing不對 (其實碰在一起有點難看)
00:35:269 (5) - 最好還是用1.6x吧, 感覺有點太近了
00:37:894 (2) - 就疊吧, 擺在那裏太擠了 , 有點像是1/4 (136, 56) 好像也不錯
00:43:332 (1) - 這個也可以用2.1x 嗎?
01:17:082 (2) - 有點遠 orz 不是什麼大音
01:55:332 (1,2) - 突然用 1.8x 是故意的嗎? 要跳的話在 01:56:832 (1) - 上跳吧
02:00:769 (3,4,1) - 感覺也沒必要這麼遠
02:15:957 (3,4) - 02:14:832 (1,2,3) - 至少也用一樣的ds拉 ;w;
也有些finish可以加 , 譬如 04:13:332 (1) - 04:14:832 (1) -

DS的事我也就不囉嗦了 :p 加油喔~~

Narcissu

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Topic Starter

Narcissu 2015-03-22T04:46:11+00:00

Gaia wrote:
安安~

[General]
沒puush我感覺好空喔 ;A;

[Normal]
00:18:582 (4,5) - 最簡單的diff最好別疊吧 …… 好，分開了√
00:22:332 (1,2,3) - 建議用 3/2 reverse 滑條因為白>紅>白的節奏有點難……好
00:38:832 (3) - 歌聲在 00:39:769 - 停喔看你要不要把滑條拉到這……那就超過2/1的長度了，非常糾結……
00:49:894 (1,2) - 00:55:332 (1,2,3) - 3/2 滑條+圓圈? 這節奏好像蠻難的……但是這段的人聲和鼓點都是這個節奏……再剪有點奇怪
00:52:332 (1,2,3) - ^但用 3/2 reverse
01:22:332 (3) - 01:23:832 (1,2,3,5) - finish在頭上??……好
01:44:082 (4,5) - 跟之前一樣 (好像也可以包得更好)……fix，不過這個包正的話，那個滑條就太彎了……
02:43:332 (1,2,3) - flow　不怎麼好　owo……X_X
02:49:332 (1,2,3) - 02:51:582 (5) - 頭上finish?…………好
03:10:332 (1) - 把這個變直的, 看你喜不喜歡……喜歡喜歡~
03:11:832 (3,4,1,2,3) - 1/2 蠻多的, 建議把 03:14:832 (3) - 放在 03:13:332 - 然後放個 1/1 滑條 + 圈……額，我覺得前面四個附點是一組的……還是都一樣比較好
03:35:832 (3,4,5,1) - overlap 有點難看 ……好
這樣看看?
03:35:832 (3) - (344,284)
03:36:582 (4) - (408,84)
03:36:957 (5) - (500, 160)
03:37:332 (1) - (420, 252)
03:38:832 (2) - (364, 144)
03:52:332 (1,2,3) - 頭上都可以加個finish喔~……好
04:16:332 (1,2,3) - ^……好

[Hard]
whistle 有點多的樣子 orz……額，因為是直接從extra降下來的，音效沒改……我去掉幾個
00:06:957 (4) - 像這個可以刪掉……好
00:18:957 (4) - 這個跳得蠻兇的說……額
00:23:832 (2) - spacing不對 (其實碰在一起有點難看)……分開了……大概……
00:35:269 (5) - 最好還是用1.6x吧, 感覺有點太近了……好
00:37:894 (2) - 就疊吧, 擺在那裏太擠了 , 有點像是1/4 (136, 56) 好像也不錯……
00:43:332 (1) - 這個也可以用2.1x 嗎?……2.0 √
01:17:082 (2) - 有點遠 orz 不是什麼大音……縮回去了……
01:55:332 (1,2) - 突然用 1.8x 是故意的嗎? 要跳的話在 01:56:832 (1) - 上跳吧……1.4……
02:00:769 (3,4,1) - 感覺也沒必要這麼遠……這個我覺得沒問題……反正1/1比較簡單
02:15:957 (3,4) - 02:14:832 (1,2,3) - 至少也用一樣的ds拉 ;w;……一樣ds太難擺了啦，這段節奏很明顯應該不會被誤讀
也有些finish可以加 , 譬如 04:13:332 (1) - 04:14:832 (1) - ……好，我回去都補上……

DS的事我也就不囉嗦了 :p 加油喔~~

其實被某人說實際難度和星級不符要降整體ds，分開堆疊的1/2圈……#%￥……

非常感謝摸圖><

lkx_Shore

1,453 posts

Joined January 2010

lkx_Shore 2015-03-22T07:37:18+00:00

.

唉...

过于注意排版整洁所以一直在摆形状而忽略了应随音乐张力的变化而变化的间距么。无论是哪里都感觉一直都在用一种为了形状而固定的间距的感觉。
(虽然我也不知道我在说什么了，但总之就是间距随音乐进行的变化太少了，现在的变化可以说和音乐并无关系)
而节奏方面部分地方棱模两可部分地方忽略了存在感最强的音轨...配合着间距无厘头导致全图感觉松散无力...实话说一点意思都没有..

另外主难度并不难，能dt的人还是一大把的，锯齿状连打的锯齿幅度太大了打着有点蛋疼。

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-03-22T10:08:08+00:00

lkx_Shore wrote:
.
唉...

过于注意排版整洁所以一直在摆形状而忽略了应随音乐张力的变化而变化的间距么。无论是哪里都感觉一直都在用一种为了形状而固定的间距的感觉。
(虽然我也不知道我在说什么了，但总之就是间距随音乐进行的变化太少了，现在的变化可以说和音乐并无关系)
而节奏方面部分地方棱模两可部分地方忽略了存在感最强的音轨...配合着间距无厘头导致全图感觉松散无力...实话说一点意思都没有..

另外主难度并不难，能dt的人还是一大把的，锯齿状连打的锯齿幅度太大了打着有点蛋疼。

呃，听上只能墳了。。。我需要Remap嗎。，！？？，，？

lkx_Shore

1,453 posts

Joined January 2010

lkx_Shore 2015-03-22T11:33:16+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
呃，听上只能墳了。。。我需要Remap嗎。，！？？，，？

额...如果你有心remap的话可以remap试试，因为我一番话就remap我突然感觉罪好深...

-Mystic

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Joined June 2014

-Mystic 2015-03-23T03:15:56+00:00

Nice map

liked it soo much

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-03-23T05:38:18+00:00

-Mystic wrote:
Nice map liked it soo much

thx ><

lkx_Shore wrote:
Narcissu wrote:
呃，听上只能墳了。。。我需要Remap嗎。，！？？，，？
额...如果你有心remap的话可以remap试试，因为我一番话就remap我突然感觉罪好深...

那我到时候看看其他人的评价好了……不行我就删了extra，就留gd的lunatic …… 老实说我自己打到处断……￥……#%&

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

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Kibbleru 2015-03-27T20:54:50+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
maybe delete extra diff ……

that diff is gud though :C

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-03-28T13:36:47+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
Narcissu wrote:
maybe delete extra diff ……
that diff is gud though :C

a…… e …… where is lunatic ……

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

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Kibbleru 2015-03-31T00:07:48+00:00

Narcissu wrote:
Kibbleru wrote:
that diff is gud though :C
a…… e …… where is lunatic ……

its coming along lol, ill try to get it done sooner q:

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-03-31T05:40:48+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
its coming along lol, ill try to get it done sooner q:

don't mind …… i need long time to rank a map orz …… I will wait with patience √

Prophecy

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Joined December 2013

Prophecy 2015-04-02T08:57:16+00:00

If you need Taiko diff.

You can PM me in Forum <3

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-04-02T09:14:31+00:00

lkx_Shore wrote:
锯齿状连打的锯齿幅度太大了打着有点蛋疼

我改掉了前面两个连打的幅度顺便把第三个长串换成了标准0.8*DS……硬派作风√

Prophecy wrote:
If you need Taiko diff.

You can PM me in Forum <3

e …… sorry …… i play 3 mod except taiko …… i dislike it orz ……i will accept if you give me miana diff or ctb diff ……

TtmnZk

Elite Mapper

597 posts

Joined March 2013

TtmnZk 2015-04-04T04:06:18+00:00

from m4m

[General]
去掉倒计时，宽屏支持（hard normal) 和‘letterbox during breaks'

感觉normal-hitwhistle都没怎么用到，建议在丰富一下

[Extra]

00:02:832 (1,2) - 跟vocal音应该是落在00:03:113，不过仔细一听是在跟钢琴..

00:10:707 (4,5,6) - 这里overmap? 怎么听感觉都没音，怀疑我耳聋

00:42:207 (2) - add clap

00:42:957 (4) - ^

01:54:957 (3) - 02:01:707 (2) - 02:08:457 (4) - clap

[hard]

00:02:457 (4,1) - blanket

00:03:582 (3,1) - 感觉远了点

02:08:457 (2,1,2) - 排列坠毁，02:08:832 (1) - 两个finish

03:22:894 (2) - soft finish

03:50:832 (1,3) - 擦边里，求改啊看着好难受

[normal]

00:26:082 (1,2) - 包的有点歪了，错觉?

00:49:332 到 00:57:957
02:14:832 到 02:23:457
03:16:332 到 03:24:957 音效美丽

01:08:832 (1) - 在弯一点好看

01:11:832 (1,2) - blanket

01:44:082 (4) - 01:47:082 02:12:582 (3) - clap？

就这些感觉摸不出啥来，而且我感觉有些漏的clap应该是有意的？

good luclk!

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-04-04T04:28:43+00:00

TT Mouse wrote:
from m4m

[General]
去掉倒计时，宽屏支持（hard normal) 和‘letterbox during breaks' …… 有break 我覺得 letterbox可以開，倒計時去掉了√

感觉normal-hitwhistle都没怎么用到，建议在丰富一下 …… 額……一直忘記加了orz

[Extra]

00:02:832 (1,2) - 跟vocal音应该是落在00:03:113，不过仔细一听是在跟钢琴..……其實我是怎麼順眼怎麼下【喂喂

00:10:707 (4,5,6) - 这里overmap? 怎么听感觉都没音，怀疑我耳聋……對，是overmap

00:42:207 (2) - add clap……fix

00:42:957 (4) - ^……fix

01:54:957 (3) - 02:01:707 (2) - 02:08:457 (4) - clap……fix

[hard]

00:02:457 (4,1) - blanket……ok

00:03:582 (3,1) - 感觉远了点……弄近了

02:08:457 (2,1,2) - 排列坠毁，02:08:832 (1) - 两个finish……fix

03:22:894 (2) - soft finish……fix

03:50:832 (1,3) - 擦边里，求改啊看着好难受 …… 唔……因為經常換地方update把改動前的版本上傳了……這是還沒做完的狀態……

[normal]

00:26:082 (1,2) - 包的有点歪了，错觉?……fix

00:49:332 到 00:57:957
02:14:832 到 02:23:457
03:16:332 到 03:24:957 音效美丽……fix

01:08:832 (1) - 在弯一点好看……ok

01:11:832 (1,2) - blanket……ok

01:44:082 (4) - 01:47:082 02:12:582 (3) - clap？……fix

就这些感觉摸不出啥来，而且我感觉有些漏的clap应该是有意的？……沒吧……大概……吧……

good luclk!

EncoreW

833 posts

Joined June 2013

EncoreW 2015-04-04T05:49:16+00:00

随便乱写

[Extra]

难度偏低，不太适合extra这个难度名

另外我觉得00:24:582 (1) - 所有这样的都应该变一下间距什么的

01:42:019 (3,6,9,12) - 这几个我觉得换成1/4滑条连贯性会更强一点，因为这段solo在01:42:113 - 01:42:488 - 01:42:863 - 01:43:238 - 这里似乎也并不是完全没声音只不过声音比较小，所以我的话肯定会换成1/4滑条然后消音

03:07:332 (1) - 这一段同上

02:18:394 (2) - 搞弯会好看一点？可以把他跟02:17:832 (1) - 的尾部blanket 起来，我看很多人都这么干

03:02:832 (1) - 这个和03:02:644 (8) - 这个形成的角度和前面几个短滑条相差有点多，个人感觉不太好看，可以调整一些

03:15:582 (9) - NC？

[Hard]

00:22:707 - 00:23:269 - 这里为什么不考虑加个note呢？00:22:332 (1,1) - 把这两个折返一下也好

01:47:832 (1,1) - 同上

02:11:832 (1,2) - 为啥这两个要叠一起呢？

03:09:394 (2) - 这里我觉得应该是一个1/2滑条和一个circle而不是一个1/1滑条

[Normal]

美丽

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-04-04T06:19:41+00:00

tm1209 wrote:
随便乱写

[Extra]

难度偏低，不太适合extra这个难度名……對，然而只是命名的習俗……我覺得名字不重要……或者我可以找一個帥氣的名字？

另外我觉得00:24:582 (1) - 所有这样的都应该变一下间距什么的……亞達

01:42:019 (3,6,9,12) - 这几个我觉得换成1/4滑条连贯性会更强一点，因为这段solo在01:42:113 - 01:42:488 - 01:42:863 - 01:43:238 - 这里似乎也并不是完全没声音只不过声音比较小，所以我的话肯定会换成1/4滑条然后消音……之所以削掉是因為長串太多難度太高，所以除了每段結尾以外的地方我都沒有下串

03:07:332 (1) - 这一段同上

02:18:394 (2) - 搞弯会好看一点？可以把他跟02:17:832 (1) - 的尾部blanket 起来，我看很多人都这么干……額，好……其實我只是複製前面的物件而已（

03:02:832 (1) - 这个和03:02:644 (8) - 这个形成的角度和前面几个短滑条相差有点多，个人感觉不太好看，可以调整一些……好

03:15:582 (9) - NC？……不，0.8DS的串我都加紫紅色……

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00:22:707 - 00:23:269 - 这里为什么不考虑加个note呢？00:22:332 (1,1) - 把这两个折返一下也好 …… ex裏面加了 ;w;

01:47:832 (1,1) - 同上

02:11:832 (1,2) - 为啥这两个要叠一起呢？ …… 因為是 3/4 接物件呀

03:09:394 (2) - 这里我觉得应该是一个1/2滑条和一个circle而不是一个1/1滑条……好，另外瞬間加了0.02星……

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Kibbleru 2015-04-05T07:28:17+00:00

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gunna post it here for now.

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Narcissu

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Topic Starter

Narcissu 2015-04-05T08:19:18+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
73% atm.

gunna post it here for now.

Thx ><

but …… can i change the name to Lunatic orz

~~3:22/4:19 = 0.77692307692308~~

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2015-04-05T23:16:00+00:00

ok im finally done

yes u can change to lunatic.

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364,216,253332,6,0,B|484:224|484:224|502:201|502:178,1,170,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,32,253894,2,0,P|412:72|428:120,1,85,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,248,254269,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,119,254457,2,0,P|241:113|199:107,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,252,254832,6,0,P|79:211|92:164,1,85,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,216,255207,2,0,P|304:256|292:304,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,84,255582,1,2,0:0:0:0:
244,120,255769,1,0,0:0:0:0:
347,64,255957,2,0,P|389:57|431:49,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,160,256332,6,0,L|404:204,3,42.5,2|0|0|0,0:0|3:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,176,256707,2,0,L|316:220,3,42.5,8|0|0|0,0:0|3:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,108,257082,6,0,L|236:152,3,42.5,6|0|0|0,0:2|3:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,156,257457,2,0,L|144:200,3,42.5,8|0|0|0,0:0|3:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,280,257832,5,2,0:0:0:0:
127,299,257925,1,0,3:0:0:0:
159,309,258019,1,0,0:0:0:0:
193,306,258113,1,0,3:0:0:0:
236,284,258207,5,0,0:0:0:0:
261,287,258300,1,0,3:0:0:0:
286,291,258394,1,0,0:0:0:0:
311,295,258488,1,0,3:0:0:0:
344,312,258582,5,2,0:0:0:0:
363,279,258675,1,0,3:0:0:0:
367,241,258769,1,0,0:0:0:0:
354,205,258863,1,0,3:0:0:0:
316,180,258957,6,0,L|328:128,1,42.5,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
248,68,259144,2,0,L|238:109,1,42.5,0|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:

Narcissu

1,744 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Narcissu 2015-04-06T01:03:09+00:00

update kibboo‘s Lunatic >_<

Milan-

1,473 posts

Joined August 2011

Milan- 2015-04-07T04:43:27+00:00

ohmy

[extra which should be lunatic as well]

Increase ur hitsound volumen for like 15-20% pls ;w; i can barely hear just ur finishes even reducing the global music bar thing aaaaaaa
Increase od/hp a bit? they are the same as kibb right now heh
00:35:457 (6,1) - if you stack 6 on 1 would feel really nice to play cuz the tempo stop but there's still music afterwards. i mean http://puu.sh/h4pWe/7559fc5df3.jpg
00:39:957 - you may want to check other diffs missing clap here. (why dont u map this anyways, intruments are important too ;-;)
00:46:332 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern is really unconfortable to play imo. cuz you break the flow twice in a row, in addition to this kind of triple that requires more acc than regulars. You can try something like this i guess http://puu.sh/h4qdn/08763b2191.jpg
01:14:832 (1) - finish on head sounds ok. similar places the same
01:26:082 (1,2,3,4) - would be nice to rotate this pattern like 25° or whatever that improves the flow. Turning 90° after a stream doesnt feels good at all
02:08:832 (1) - add finish
02:11:832 (1,2,3,4,5) - like i said before, this doesnt play well either imo. You can try something like this maybe)? http://puu.sh/h4qIB/89978ea320.jpg or whatever that flows better ><
02:30:582 (5) - move around x330y143? feels a bit better ithink
02:52:144 (4,1) - this doesnt play well at all, as you have to twist your wrist like "aaaaaa my hand". Feels better if you curve 1 to the other side or something
02:52:332 (1) - finish?

[Hard]

00:17:082 (3,1) - what about this to cover the guitar http://puu.sh/h4rEJ/e02026332d.jpg right now it feels like ur mapping nothing important. Also makes the cymbal clickable which is better i guess
00:22:894 (1) - 01:48:394 (1) - extend these 1/2 more? till 00:23:269 - and 01:48:769 - to cover better the music, otherwise feels kinda empty imo><

[Normal]

01:43:332 (3,4) - this jump? o.o
01:46:332 (3,4) - ^
02:57:207 (3) - i'd ctrl+g this and arrange it a bit for better flow or something

have fun

Narcissu

1,744 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Narcissu 2015-04-07T06:23:06+00:00

Milan- wrote:
ohmy

[it's extra if BPM is 200]
Increase ur hitsound volumen for like 15-20% pls ;w; i can barely hear just ur finishes even reducing the global music bar thing aaaaaaa…… i think default hitnormal is noise orz …… increase 10 %
Increase od/hp a bit? they are the same as kibb right now heh……a …… no problem imo
00:35:457 (6,1) - if you stack 6 on 1 would feel really nice to play cuz the tempo stop but there's still music afterwards. i mean http://puu.sh/h4pWe/7559fc5df3.jpg …… no …… i wish it's same direction with 00:34:332 (1,2,3,4) -
00:39:957 - you may want to check other diffs missing clap here. (why dont u map this anyways, intruments are important too ;-;) …… voice is more important imo ……
00:46:332 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern is really unconfortable to play imo. cuz you break the flow twice in a row, in addition to this kind of triple that requires more acc than regulars. You can try something like this i guess http://puu.sh/h4qdn/08763b2191.jpg …… ok √
01:14:832 (1) - finish on head sounds ok. similar places the same …… all fix ~
01:26:082 (1,2,3,4) - would be nice to rotate this pattern like 25° or whatever that improves the flow. Turning 90° after a stream doesnt feels good at all
02:08:832 (1) - add finish ……fix
02:11:832 (1,2,3,4,5) - like i said before, this doesnt play well either imo. You can try something like this maybe)? http://puu.sh/h4qIB/89978ea320.jpg or whatever that flows better >< …… ok √
02:30:582 (5) - move around x330y143? feels a bit better ithink …… a …… it's too closed for 02:30:957 (6,7,8) -
02:52:144 (4,1) - this doesnt play well at all, as you have to twist your wrist like "aaaaaa my hand". Feels better if you curve 1 to the other side or something …… "aaaaaa my hand". is my wish LOL …… no player will overlook the place ，it's difficult jump same as music
02:52:332 (1) - finish? …… fix
[Hard]
00:17:082 (3,1) - what about this to cover the guitar http://puu.sh/h4rEJ/e02026332d.jpg right now it feels like ur mapping nothing important. Also makes the cymbal clickable which is better i guess …… e …… i try
00:22:894 (1) - 01:48:394 (1) - extend these 1/2 more? till 00:23:269 - and 01:48:769 - to cover better the music, otherwise feels kinda empty imo>< …… ok ……[/list:1337]

[Normal]
01:43:332 (3,4) - this jump? o.o …… it's mistake ;w; …… fix
01:46:332 (3,4) - ^ ……^
02:57:207 (3) - i'd ctrl+g this and arrange it a bit for better flow or something …… ok ……
have fun

zj0924

309 posts

Joined November 2014

zj0924 2015-04-07T08:43:50+00:00

Hi!From

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

[General]

Fine~

[Normal]

01:43:332 (3,4,3,4) - DS？ 更新完发现美丽XD
00:01:332 (1,3) - 加上~~“duang”~~ “ding”和extra保持同步，其他地方同理
00:13:332 (1) - finish？
00:16:332 (1) - 感觉一根长的不是很好看，折一下会比较好？
01:17:082 (4,1) - 包好一点？
01:20:832 (1,2) - 这里感觉有点突然，和前面同步比较好？或者03:49:332 (1,2) - 这样的flow比较好
01:42:957 (2) - remove finish
02:17:832 (1,2) - 这里两个是重音我觉得flow角度大点会比较好，02:17:457 (5,1) - flow达不到强调的效果，前面00:52:332 (1,2) - 同理
噗我才发现原来后面是copy paste ctrl+h啊
02:56:457 (2,3,4) - 这里我觉得节奏并不搭，推荐这样改
03:12:582 (4,2) - 如果3下重snare，那这里是否要加呢？
03:51:582 (4) - ^
04:15:582 (4) - ^

[Hard]

00:01:332 (1,1) - blanket?
00:12:207 (2) - 我觉得这样flow更好
00:16:707 (2) - 试试这样？强调一下finish和这个00:17:832 (1) -
00:23:457 (1,2) - 有点坑感觉，前面适应了1/1，而且都是从上至下，一下子跳到1/2（后面1/4）对hard玩家有些难了，试试旋转或者别直往一个方向，会形成思维定势...我的改法也不好
00:36:582 (2,1) - 跳有点远了
00:38:832 (1,2) - 感觉会措手不及，宁愿放弃折返00:39:582 (1) - 这里单点，因为你前面00:38:082 (3,4) - 是这样做的
00:42:957 (2) - clap？
00:44:644 (1,2) - 可以的话希望你能包好
01:39:207 (2,4) - clap?
01:43:707 (2,4) - ^
01:48:957 (1,2,3,4) - 同前面，总觉得1/1-1/2-1/4怪怪的
02:00:207 (2) -这样好点我觉得，之后两单点也不会抢拍
02:58:707 (2) - clap？
03:17:644 (3) - remove clap？保持一致
03:22:894 (2) - normal-finish？

[Kibbleru‘s lunatic]

00:06:769 (1,2) - suggest nc here to help read map
01:24:582 (1) - auto finish？cuz “don”whistle is hard to hear
01:26:082 (1,2,3,4) - I think it's passionate to add don here
01:44:082 (4) - maybe stack on 312 100 current one spacing of 01:43:707 (2,3,4) - kinda big here
02:02:550 (6) - why a weird snare here？sounds terrible
02:02:363 (5) - 264 308 for read rhythm easier
02:10:519 (2) - why stack on tail that made 02:10:519 (2,3) - sudden...Why not make a parallelogram
02:27:207 (1) - NC to help read map？
02:49:894 (3) - ^
02:55:332 (1) - suggest curve a bit to fit the rhythm...mine doesn't look good
02:59:457 (4) - clap?From 02:59:457 (4) - to03:02:457 (4) - you miss many claps
03:06:207 (2) - clap?
03:12:207 (2,4,2,4) - ^
03:45:582 (3) - 468 268 is better for me
04:17:082 (1) - finish sounds weird
04:19:332 (3) - I think it's good to add a circle here to make a finish

[Extra]

总体不错，没什么好说的。提些建议吧：
作为主难度，sv虽然1.8但是绿线0.8-1.0互相间隔较小，导致歌曲低潮高潮之间看不出明显变化。sv低下来距离也近了，不怎么符合这个难度。如果要脱胎换骨的进步，建议局部绿线提升倍率加快速度，如果你愿意改的话
难度远远不到extra，还不如叫Lunatic,kibbleru的改成insane
OD+0.5 HP+1 make a better diff spread
00:13:332 (1) - 我倒觉得这里开始音乐蛮强烈的，绿线1.0比较好，现在的感觉有些慢了
00:48:957 (3) - clap？
01:00:582 (1,2,3,4) - 这里的旋律很适合用1/4滑条连打啊，可以试试看
01:14:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 打起来并不爽，我建议两个一组，第一个贴前一组最后一个的尾巴，顺时针转圈。我摆的也不好，差不多这意思
01:42:207 (4) - 三连换成1/4滑条更适合我觉得，只是sv有点慢
02:39:675 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 并不好打，你可以先拉个滑条，滑条前半部分红描点上下窜动，滑条转成连打，形成一个前面连打距离小后面连打距离大加速的效果我觉得更合适

美丽，Good Luck~

Narcissu

1,744 posts

Joined August 2012

Topic Starter

Narcissu 2015-04-07T09:49:34+00:00

zj0924 wrote:

我必須要迅雷下載才能看見puu的圖片 …… 然後看見了頭像 0-0

Hi!From

Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue

[General]
Fine~

[Normal]
01:43:332 (3,4,3,4) - DS？ 更新完发现美丽XD …… 233
00:01:332 (1,3) - 加上~~“duang”~~ “ding”和extra保持同步，其他地方同理 …… all fix
00:13:332 (1) - finish？ …… fix
00:16:332 (1) - 感觉一根长的不是很好看，折一下会比较好？…… 不我討厭扭來扭去和紅點，而且我覺得低難度更不應該弄這些奇怪的東西
01:17:082 (4,1) - 包好一点？……fix
01:20:832 (1,2) - 这里感觉有点突然，和前面同步比较好？或者03:49:332 (1,2) - 这样的flow比较好 ……額，我覺得沒什麼問題
01:42:957 (2) - remove finish ……fix
02:17:832 (1,2) - 这里两个是重音我觉得flow角度大点会比较好，02:17:457 (5,1) - flow达不到强调的效果，前面00:52:332 (1,2) - 同理……好噗我才发现原来后面是copy paste ctrl+h啊 …… ahh ……看來還是不容易被發現的 orz
02:56:457 (2,3,4) - 这里我觉得节奏并不搭，推荐这样改……好
03:12:582 (4,2) - 如果3下重snare，那这里是否要加呢？……額，這個沒看懂……我是單純用長滑帶過3/4
03:51:582 (4) - ^
04:15:582 (4) - ^

[Hard]
00:01:332 (1,1) - blanket? ……fix
00:12:207 (2) - 我觉得这样flow更好……ok
00:16:707 (2) - 试试这样？强调一下finish和这个00:17:832 (1) - ……ok
00:23:457 (1,2) - 有点坑感觉，前面适应了1/1，而且都是从上至下，一下子跳到1/2（后面1/4）对hard玩家有些难了，试试旋转或者别直往一个方向，会形成思维定势...我的改法也不好……額，這個我覺得沒問題，DS都很小，無遮無擋的不可能手速讀圖跟不上
00:36:582 (2,1) - 跳有点远了 ……ok
00:38:832 (1,2) - 感觉会措手不及，宁愿放弃折返00:39:582 (1) - 这里单点，因为你前面00:38:082 (3,4) - 是这样做的 …… 前面和後面不一樣呀……長滑我覺得沒問題
00:42:957 (2) - clap？ ……fix
00:44:644 (1,2) - 可以的话希望你能包好 ………額……頭尾都是1.4的ds……要拉標準圓弧的話角度太大了看上去很扭曲
01:39:207 (2,4) - clap? ……fix
01:43:707 (2,4) - ^ ……fix
01:48:957 (1,2,3,4) - 同前面，总觉得1/1-1/2-1/4怪怪的
02:00:207 (2) -这样好点我觉得，之后两单点也不会抢拍 ……好
02:58:707 (2) - clap？……fix
03:17:644 (3) - remove clap？保持一致……？？
03:22:894 (2) - normal-finish？……fix

[Extra]
总体不错，没什么好说的。提些建议吧：
作为主难度，sv虽然1.8但是绿线0.8-1.0互相间隔较小，导致歌曲低潮高潮之间看不出明显变化。sv低下来距离也近了，不怎么符合这个难度。如果要脱胎换骨的进步，建议局部绿线提升倍率加快速度，如果你愿意改的话 …… 我不喜歡那些偶爾的加速滑條……額，SV變化低也沒辦法了
难度远远不到extra，还不如叫Lunatic,kibbleru的改成insane …… 我覺得這和那些三星insane是一個道理……畢竟如果是200BPM肯定EX icon……然而已經無數人吐槽這個orz ……我去找一個帥氣的單詞
OD+0.5 HP+1 make a better diff spread …… 亞達
00:13:332 (1) - 我倒觉得这里开始音乐蛮强烈的，绿线1.0比较好，现在的感觉有些慢了 …… 然而kiai只有1.0……
00:48:957 (3) - clap？……fix
01:00:582 (1,2,3,4) - 这里的旋律很适合用1/4滑条连打啊，可以试试看 …… 不要啦我1/4都加紫色
01:14:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 打起来并不爽，我建议两个一组，第一个贴前一组最后一个的尾巴，顺时针转圈。我摆的也不好，差不多这意思……額，這個難度太高了……本來這個圖就是連打最不靠譜了唔
01:42:207 (4) - 三连换成1/4滑条更适合我觉得，只是sv有点慢 …… ^
02:39:675 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 并不好打，你可以先拉个滑条，滑条前半部分红描点上下窜动，滑条转成连打，形成一个前面连打距离小后面连打距离大加速的效果我觉得更合适 …… 額，我自己打沒什麼問題……
美丽，Good Luck~

非常感謝摸圖 ><

Sakaue Nachi

558 posts

Joined September 2012

Sakaue Nachi 2015-04-08T05:18:45+00:00

[Kibbleru's Lunatic]
01:26:832 - 04:19:332 add a circle?
01:50:457 (3) - try(386,358)

[Extra]

SPOILER

2015-04-07 18:02 Sakaue Nachi: 少侠早
2015-04-07 18:02 Narcissu: 111
2015-04-07 18:02 Narcissu: 晚飯時間額……
2015-04-07 18:02 Sakaue Nachi: 少侠晚
2015-04-07 18:02 Sakaue Nachi: :3/
2015-04-07 18:03 Narcissu: O_O
2015-04-07 18:03 Sakaue Nachi: ball个摸可以吗:3{__}
2015-04-07 18:03 Sakaue Nachi: 简单水下就行了
2015-04-07 18:03 Sakaue Nachi: orzz
2015-04-07 18:04 Narcissu: 額，可以m4m麼
2015-04-07 18:04 Sakaue Nachi: 随便吧
2015-04-07 18:04 Sakaue Nachi: 你多长的、
2015-04-07 18:04 Narcissu: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/660947 senya - Tsuki ni Murakumo Hana ni Kaze [Extra]]
2015-04-07 18:04 Narcissu: 正常的長度……
2015-04-07 18:04 Sakaue Nachi: 太正常了、、
2015-04-07 18:05 Sakaue Nachi: 我摸3个难度可以吗
2015-04-07 18:05 Sakaue Nachi: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/669102 Printemps - Puwapuwa-o!]
2015-04-07 18:05 Narcissu: 沒問題……
2015-04-07 18:05 Sakaue Nachi: 其实不可以也要可以
2015-04-07 18:05 Sakaue Nachi: qwq
2015-04-07 18:05 Narcissu: 2.4
2015-04-07 18:05 Narcissu: MB……好感動
2015-04-07 18:05 Sakaue Nachi: 我全部加起来都没你一个难度长
2015-04-07 18:06 Narcissu: 我家從osu下載圖有概率掉，越大的圖，下載時間長……失敗概率就越大
2015-04-07 18:06 Sakaue Nachi: 不怕我的图只有一个超过5m的
2015-04-07 18:06 Sakaue Nachi: 4.6叫extra会不会被叼
2015-04-07 18:06 Sakaue Nachi: 感觉可以改个自由的名字
2015-04-07 18:06 Narcissu: 對了少俠來看看我新圖的storyboard √
2015-04-07 18:07 Narcissu: 額……
2015-04-07 18:07 Narcissu: 取什麼呢
2015-04-07 18:07 Sakaue Nachi: 什么新图
2015-04-07 18:07 Narcissu: 我之前一直是直接拿曲名
2015-04-07 18:07 Sakaue Nachi: 和歌曲相关的
2015-04-07 18:07 Narcissu: 這個明顯不行
2015-04-07 18:07 Narcissu: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/674188 Ceui - Mythology of a Boy who became a Flower]
2015-04-07 18:07 Narcissu: 還沒做完但是加了兩個就沒靈感了 orz
2015-04-07 18:07 Narcissu: 求推薦一些可以抄襲的sb ><
2015-04-07 18:08 Sakaue Nachi: 我不会无法推荐
2015-04-07 18:08 Sakaue Nachi: :3{--}
2015-04-07 18:08 Narcissu: 這個歌的日文……唔……
2015-04-07 18:08 Sakaue Nachi: 我推荐那些都是高科技的
2015-04-07 18:08 Sakaue Nachi: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/487951 TRakker - Trail of Dust]
2015-04-07 18:08 Narcissu: 月に叢雲華に風 …… 哪一個呢
2015-04-07 18:08 Narcissu: 无法显示此网页 …… 納尼
2015-04-07 18:09 Sakaue Nachi: 也可以是恋恋相关的
2015-04-07 18:09 Sakaue Nachi: 这就交给你想了
2015-04-07 18:09 Narcissu: 然而古明地戀似乎沒有什麼可以用的單詞……
2015-04-07 18:09 Sakaue Nachi: 岁闭关来个kazekoi也行
2015-04-07 18:09 Sakaue Nachi: 随便
2015-04-07 18:09 Narcissu: 14MB……唉
2015-04-07 18:09 Sakaue Nachi: 不过貌似太随便了
2015-04-07 18:09 Narcissu: 這個肯定下載不了
2015-04-07 18:10 Sakaue Nachi: 你的那图我也下不了
2015-04-07 18:10 Narcissu: 額，下不了算了……反正還沒做完
2015-04-07 18:10 Narcissu: 我估計也做不完……
2015-04-07 18:11 Sakaue Nachi: 13分钟先跪
2015-04-07 18:12 Narcissu: 然而要失敗……
2015-04-07 18:13 Narcissu: 已經無數人要我改extra的名字了……￥#@
2015-04-07 18:13 Sakaue Nachi: 原来我不是一个人
2015-04-07 18:13 Narcissu: 唔嗚……明明那些3星insane都沒人吐槽……
2015-04-07 18:13 Narcissu: 少俠日文好幫忙想一個唄 ……&
2015-04-07 18:15 Sakaue Nachi: 你这图感觉危险
2015-04-07 18:15 Sakaue Nachi: 02:59:832 (1) - 
2015-04-07 18:15 Sakaue Nachi: 你看下这些蛋疼的吉他
2015-04-07 18:15 Sakaue Nachi: 我之前就试过
2015-04-07 18:15 Sakaue Nachi: 。。
2015-04-07 18:15 Narcissu: 額，怎麼了
2015-04-07 18:15 Sakaue Nachi: 你觉得对的上1/4吗。。
2015-04-07 18:16 Narcissu: 不在綫上嗎？
2015-04-07 18:16 Sakaue Nachi: 这么明显
2015-04-07 18:16 Sakaue Nachi: 你25%听
2015-04-07 18:16 Narcissu: 真的擦
2015-04-07 18:16 Narcissu: 額，沒關係
2015-04-07 18:16 Sakaue Nachi: 听不出来找人听下
2015-04-07 18:17 Sakaue Nachi: 最好找tic看看感觉。。
2015-04-07 18:17 Narcissu: 放心啦放心啦……我想不通這會有什麼關係……
2015-04-07 18:18 Sakaue Nachi: 我放心啊 又不是我的图
2015-04-07 18:18 Sakaue Nachi: :3
2015-04-07 18:18 Narcissu: X_X
2015-04-07 18:18 Sakaue Nachi: 少侠什么时候作图这么坑爹了
2015-04-07 18:18 Sakaue Nachi: 04:06:675 (2) - 
2015-04-07 18:18 Sakaue Nachi: 这些连打
2015-04-07 18:19 Narcissu: 額，因為其他圖沒有這麼多的串可以擺……
2015-04-07 18:19 Sakaue Nachi: 你看下人家L
2015-04-07 18:19 Sakaue Nachi: 那段吉他他都不敢跟
2015-04-07 18:19 Narcissu: 串太多了有人讓我弄點花樣不要太單調……orz
2015-04-07 18:20 Narcissu: kibb是穩定換段落下連打
2015-04-07 18:20 Sakaue Nachi: 花样变据就行了感觉。。
2015-04-07 18:21 Narcissu: 額……03:14:832 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - 這種？
2015-04-07 18:22 Sakaue Nachi: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2984360
2015-04-07 18:22 Sakaue Nachi: 像这样
2015-04-07 18:23 Narcissu: 額……我0.8的連打就下紫紅色了……1.0肯定爆星
2015-04-07 18:23 Narcissu: 我去換幾個
2015-04-07 18:25 Sakaue Nachi: 最高难度怕什么爆星。。
2015-04-07 18:25 Sakaue Nachi: 你这个做到5星都没人理
2015-04-07 18:26 Narcissu: 這是全局難度問題……我是支持跳梗比連打難的哪一派
2015-04-07 18:26 Narcissu: 可以跳斷不能連打彩虹 ！！
2015-04-07 18:26 Sakaue Nachi: 你这图没多少跳啊
2015-04-07 18:26 Sakaue Nachi: _(:з」∠)_
2015-04-07 18:26 Narcissu: 對啊，所以星不高呀
2015-04-07 18:26 Narcissu: orz
2015-04-07 18:27 Sakaue Nachi: 我的做的比你简单
2015-04-07 18:27 Sakaue Nachi: orz
2015-04-07 18:27 Sakaue Nachi: 我那图有点神奇，换了offset
2015-04-07 18:27 Narcissu: 納尼，少俠也做過這個？
2015-04-07 18:27 Sakaue Nachi: 然后怒升0.04星
2015-04-07 18:27 Sakaue Nachi: 没有啊
2015-04-07 18:27 Sakaue Nachi: 我说我让你摸那图
2015-04-07 18:27 Sakaue Nachi: bpm差不多
2015-04-07 18:28 Sakaue Nachi: 感觉全部连打换成后面间距加大吧
2015-04-07 18:28 Sakaue Nachi: 这样上下的太蛋疼了
2015-04-07 18:29 Narcissu: 怎麼可能
2015-04-07 18:29 Sakaue Nachi: 你想想
2015-04-07 18:29 Narcissu: 你那個比我的星要高……
2015-04-07 18:29 Sakaue Nachi: 这样上下的变相就是让移动变慢
2015-04-07 18:29 Sakaue Nachi: 这里音乐明显是从小到大
2015-04-07 18:30 Narcissu: 然而就要用1.0的DS？
2015-04-07 18:30 Sakaue Nachi: 你喜欢啊小一点也可以
2015-04-07 18:30 Narcissu: 我覺得難度值比較貼切實際……
2015-04-07 18:30 Sakaue Nachi: 我只是举个例子
2015-04-07 18:30 Sakaue Nachi: 举个摆法的例子
2015-04-07 18:30 Sakaue Nachi: ds随便设定的
2015-04-07 18:30 Sakaue Nachi: 。。
2015-04-07 18:31 Narcissu: 額，
2015-04-07 18:31 Narcissu: 那其他一樣的地方不也就被逼用那個DS了麼
2015-04-07 18:31 Sakaue Nachi: 你一样的地方之后4 5个吧
2015-04-07 18:31 Sakaue Nachi: *貌似只有
2015-04-07 18:32 Sakaue Nachi: 感觉0.5 ~0.8可以
2015-04-07 18:32 Sakaue Nachi: 或者0.6~0.8
2015-04-07 18:32 Narcissu: 唔，那我換掉哪幾個呢
2015-04-07 18:32 Narcissu: 你的最小數字就是我的最高設置ahh
2015-04-07 18:32 Sakaue Nachi: 就是你原来那样啊
2015-04-07 18:32 Sakaue Nachi: 你原来就是0.6变到0.8的、
2015-04-07 18:32 Sakaue Nachi: 换个摆法而已
2015-04-07 18:33 Narcissu: 加紫紅色的那些嗎
2015-04-07 18:33 Sakaue Nachi: 感觉变化大点能突出后面一点
2015-04-07 18:33 Sakaue Nachi: 02:38:832 (1) - 
2015-04-07 18:33 Sakaue Nachi: 可以这样
2015-04-07 18:33 Sakaue Nachi: ==
2015-04-07 18:33 Narcissu: 額……那原本的我覺得也不錯啊
2015-04-07 18:34 Narcissu: 雖然其實我討厭奇怪的連打
2015-04-07 18:35 Sakaue Nachi: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2984388
2015-04-07 18:35 Sakaue Nachi: 0.5变到0.8貌似好点
2015-04-07 18:35 Sakaue Nachi: 0.6变化有点小
2015-04-07 18:36 Sakaue Nachi: 随便吧 你自己喜欢怎样就怎样吧
2015-04-07 18:36 Narcissu: 數學系的怨念表示一定要偶數【喂喂
2015-04-07 18:36 Sakaue Nachi: _(:з」∠)_
2015-04-07 18:36 Narcissu: 我去換成0.4√
2015-04-07 18:37 Sakaue Nachi: 感觉现在已经摸完ex了√
2015-04-07 18:37 Sakaue Nachi: 就贴这些对话可以了orz
2015-04-07 18:37 Narcissu: 唔……我是隨便啦
2015-04-07 18:38 Narcissu: 我也是靠“刪掉藍線減少文件體積”水遍大江南北的人ahh
2015-04-07 18:38 Sakaue Nachi: 我顺便看下ex其他地方吧
2015-04-07 18:39 Sakaue Nachi: 00:11:082 (4,5) - 
2015-04-07 18:39 Sakaue Nachi: 拉多一格啊
2015-04-07 18:39 Sakaue Nachi: 两个都拉到蓝线
2015-04-07 18:39 Sakaue Nachi: 然后这个放近点00:11:457 (5) - 
2015-04-07 18:39 Narcissu: 額，除了難打還有什麼意義……
2015-04-07 18:39 Sakaue Nachi: 更加贴合音乐
2015-04-07 18:39 Narcissu: 我不喜歡1/4折返分開……
2015-04-07 18:40 Sakaue Nachi: 你看下蓝线都有明显的音
2015-04-07 18:40 Sakaue Nachi: 你喜欢吧
2015-04-07 18:40 Sakaue Nachi: orz
2015-04-07 18:40 Narcissu: 不，給我的感覺沒有區別
2015-04-07 18:40 Narcissu: 比起這些overmap的串才應該吐槽 ;w;
2015-04-07 18:41 Sakaue Nachi: 00:17:082 (3) - 
2015-04-07 18:41 Sakaue Nachi: 这些也是唉
2015-04-07 18:41 Sakaue Nachi: 你最好留一下
2015-04-07 18:41 Sakaue Nachi: 是1/6的
2015-04-07 18:41 Sakaue Nachi: 00:17:332
2015-04-07 18:42 Sakaue Nachi: 听到这些吉他就蛋疼
2015-04-07 18:42 Narcissu: 這個肯定是3/4……
2015-04-07 18:42 Sakaue Nachi: 不
2015-04-07 18:42 Sakaue Nachi: 不是1/6我吃屎
2015-04-07 18:42 Sakaue Nachi: 你可以问下比尔呢
2015-04-07 18:42 Sakaue Nachi: 比人
2015-04-07 18:42 Sakaue Nachi: 别人
2015-04-07 18:42 Sakaue Nachi: 我听音很准的
2015-04-07 18:42 Narcissu: 唔，然而我並沒有什麼人脈
2015-04-07 18:43 Narcissu: 我認識的BN兩隻手就數完了
2015-04-07 18:43 Sakaue Nachi: 我一只手数完了
2015-04-07 18:43 Sakaue Nachi: 跪了
2015-04-07 18:43 Sakaue Nachi: 一般人看不出来
2015-04-07 18:43 Narcissu: 我留意一下去問587
2015-04-07 18:43 Narcissu: 怎麼可能……
2015-04-07 18:43 Sakaue Nachi: 看图都是随便看过去那种肯定看不出来
2015-04-07 18:44 Narcissu: 經驗告訴我貝斯不可能用1/6
2015-04-07 18:44 Sakaue Nachi: 你的经验错了
2015-04-07 18:44 Sakaue Nachi: 请看下我那个图
2015-04-07 18:44 Sakaue Nachi: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/546514 Printemps - Eien Friends]
2015-04-07 18:44 Sakaue Nachi: 03:29:959 (1) - 
2015-04-07 18:44 Sakaue Nachi: 这里开始那一段
2015-04-07 18:44 Narcissu: 額，LL和senya都是屬於奇葩領域
2015-04-07 18:44 Narcissu: 尤其是LL……可以和ceui比了
2015-04-07 18:45 Narcissu: 音遊曲萬歲！
2015-04-07 18:45 Sakaue Nachi: 你又不做
2015-04-07 18:45 Sakaue Nachi: 吉他即兴都是这样
2015-04-07 18:45 Sakaue Nachi: 很多落在1/6
2015-04-07 18:45 Narcissu: 吉他即興也是1/3
2015-04-07 18:45 Narcissu: 因為1/6對人類演奏要求太高了
2015-04-07 18:46 Narcissu: 最多下幾個修飾音
2015-04-07 18:46 Sakaue Nachi: 00:47:832 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 
2015-04-07 18:46 Sakaue Nachi: 虽然你不会改但是还是想说
2015-04-07 18:46 Sakaue Nachi: orz
2015-04-07 18:46 Sakaue Nachi: 做个overlap效果可以
2015-04-07 18:46 Sakaue Nachi: 不要完全重叠
2015-04-07 18:46 Narcissu: 誒誒，為什麼
2015-04-07 18:47 Sakaue Nachi: 不用理我
2015-04-07 18:47 Sakaue Nachi: orz
2015-04-07 18:47 Sakaue Nachi: 我的恶趣味
2015-04-07 18:47 Sakaue Nachi: 跟夏洛学的
2015-04-07 18:47 Sakaue Nachi: 01:01:332 (1,2) - 
2015-04-07 18:47 Narcissu: .....
2015-04-07 18:47 Sakaue Nachi: 换成单点感觉适合点
2015-04-07 18:47 Sakaue Nachi: 这里音乐我感觉是这样
2015-04-07 18:48 Sakaue Nachi: 然后后面两个人声刚好两个滑条
2015-04-07 18:48 Sakaue Nachi: 最完美的搭配
2015-04-07 18:48 Sakaue Nachi: 少侠终于用三连了啊
2015-04-07 18:48 Sakaue Nachi: 之前的图你都不用
2015-04-07 18:50 Narcissu: 額……小小的掉線了一下
2015-04-07 18:50 Sakaue Nachi: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2984416
2015-04-07 18:50 Sakaue Nachi: 说道这里
2015-04-07 18:50 Sakaue Nachi: 吃个饭稍后再来。。
2015-04-07 18:51 Narcissu: 已經7點了耶
2015-04-07 18:51 Narcissu: 這個時間吃晚飯……
2015-04-07 19:05 Sakaue Nachi: 在吗会俩了
2015-04-07 19:06 Sakaue Nachi: 01:17:457 (5,6) - 
2015-04-07 19:06 Sakaue Nachi: ctrl+g啊现在好卡手啊
2015-04-07 19:07 Narcissu: 晚飯吃的這麼快沒問題嗎……
2015-04-07 19:07 Sakaue Nachi: 就在家里吃能不快吗
2015-04-07 19:07 Narcissu: 好
2015-04-07 19:08 Narcissu: 額，這樣那個1就近了
2015-04-07 19:08 Sakaue Nachi: 不近的
2015-04-07 19:08 Narcissu: 我要01:17:832 (1) - 這個難打
2015-04-07 19:08 Sakaue Nachi: 滑条的方向让他打起来有感觉
2015-04-07 19:08 Sakaue Nachi: 你喜欢调远点也行吧。。
2015-04-07 19:08 Narcissu: 哦哦
2015-04-07 19:09 Sakaue Nachi: 好多段蛋疼吉他orz
2015-04-07 19:09 Sakaue Nachi: 自求多福
2015-04-07 19:10 Narcissu: 額……這要是能un我應該一個圖都rank不了
2015-04-07 19:10 Sakaue Nachi: 这问题只有屌逼会un你
2015-04-07 19:10 Sakaue Nachi: 放心
2015-04-07 19:11 Narcissu: 比起un……我覺得我會找不到bat
2015-04-07 19:11 Narcissu: 從之前的例子看……
2015-04-07 19:11 Sakaue Nachi: 02:33:207 (2) - 
2015-04-07 19:11 Sakaue Nachi: 方向朝上啊
2015-04-07 19:11 Sakaue Nachi: 之前说了那些连打不说了
2015-04-07 19:12 Sakaue Nachi: 我说朝上是意思是水平偏上
2015-04-07 19:12 Narcissu: 唔，我覺得我們從很多地方都是完全不同的理念
2015-04-07 19:13 Narcissu: 我是想去把左下角填填上……
2015-04-07 19:13 Sakaue Nachi: 你看下我的图就应该知道概念不同了
2015-04-07 19:13 Sakaue Nachi: :3/
2015-04-07 19:13 Narcissu: 其實我作圖也就是填空……
2015-04-07 19:13 Narcissu: 什麼地方沒有東西去哪裡 ;w;
2015-04-07 19:13 Narcissu: 不得不放一起我就會疊起來
2015-04-07 19:14 Sakaue Nachi: 感觉我摸两个难度吧orz
2015-04-07 19:14 Sakaue Nachi: hard应该没什么摸的
2015-04-07 19:15 Narcissu: 額，我是隨便……
2015-04-07 19:15 Sakaue Nachi: 你也可以随便摸
2015-04-07 19:15 Narcissu: 我先繼續給人拉滑條了……#%
2015-04-07 19:15 Sakaue Nachi: easy normal都没东西说的
2015-04-07 19:15 Sakaue Nachi: 看完了

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2015-04-09T13:47:48+00:00

Overall Impression

好图，但细节有些还应该打磨
因为太长并且你的mod帮助不太大，选一个难度摸
Notice: If my understanding level is too low, I am not sure this mod will be really helpful.

Mod

Extra

My understanding level of you map: 95%
My rating of you map: 85%

00:17:457 (4) - 虽然是故意压住的，但实际感觉并不好，DS加大吧，个人倾向是

SPOILER

00:35:457 (6) - x252y328
00:37:332 (1) - 不包住么
00:38:082 (3,4,1,2,3,4) -

SPOILER

00:46:332 (1,2,3) - 和前后相比太挤了，就算要包也分开（我建议是不要包）
00:58:332 (1) -

SPOILER

01:17:832 (1,2) - flow的切断应该在01:18:394 (2,3) - 进行
01:24:582 (7,8) - 两个角度都陡一点，正好把flow送到01:25:332 (1) - 去
02:11:832 (1,2,3) - 挤
02:33:207 (2) - 顺时针转动5到15度都行
02:33:957 (5) -

SPOILER

04:03:769 (4) - 逆时针转19度，包或者不包都应该转
04:13:332 (1) - 逆时针转20度左右

AIR

1,577 posts

Joined November 2012

AIR 2015-04-09T15:04:44+00:00

[Normal]

00:12:582 (2) - 略微有些弧度
00:23:832 (2) -
01:49:332 (2) - 改的话类似
01:26:832 (1) - 04:19:332 (1) - 去nc

[Hard]

00:07:894 (2) - 尾部whistle
00:17:644 (1) - 长条提前红线orz
01:12:957 (4,1) - 02:38:457 (4,1) - 03:41:457 (4,1) - 04:05:457 (4,1) - 可以调下次序
03:11:832 - 后面几个条感觉上可以发散些orz
03:38:457 (3,4,1,2) - 感觉上34ds可以略大12些
04:02:457 (3,4,1,2) - 类似

[Kibbleru's Lunatic]

00:39:769 (3,4) - reverse order
00:48:582 (1) - http://puu.sh/h7ovC/fae671596c.png

[Extra]

00:10:707 (4,6) - 感觉琴音有个上升，whistle建议6
03:02:832 (1,2,3,4) - 再填一段1/4感觉上比较帅
03:35:363 (4,5) - 其实我并不太懂这样的分离的作用orz，~~凑个字数吧~~
美丽

射星跑

Lurei

667 posts

Joined March 2014

Lurei 2015-04-09T17:58:48+00:00

Well, modding from PM request.
Let's start.

[Overview]

For some or other reason, you have enabled a countdown on Hard, Lunatic and Extra but not on Normal. It's recommended if you make this setting the same on every diff, as well as the "Widescreen Support". Sadly, both settings don't have any effect on your map ("Countdown" doesn't work because you start your map as soon as the song start, and "Widescreen Support" doesn't work because you don't have any Storyboard), so I recommend to disable both options on every diffs. They can be disabled on Song Setup>Design.
I've noticed several of the most recent "Touhou" maps actually use "東方Project" as Source instead of "Touhou". I think you can do the same, and add "Touhou" to Tags instead.
Hm... no more major issues overall. Cool song. <3

[Normal]

00:23:832 (2) - You know, using a reverse to play such a strong note like 00:25:332 - isn't really recommended to do, and it's even more discouraged if it also marks a change of section (meaning it marks a change in the rhythm). I would suggest removing the reverse of this slider and adding a circle on 00:25:332 - to mark the section change. It gives players a feeling of change, and it's kinda cool to have that kind of feel while playing since you know you can't just spam clicks around anymore.
00:34:332 (1) - You could improve flow a bit here, by placing the slider's reverse a bit down. That would enhance your actual flow, as well as it prepares players to click the next note. Those are the coordinates I found, if you want to use them: x:232|y:308
00:47:832 (5) - Pretty much what I've said on 00:23:832 (2) -
00:59:082 (2,1) - I think the time gap here isn't broad enough to prepare players to play the spinner. Normal players requiere a little bit of time to prepare for a spinner (but not as much as Easy players) since they aren't fully used to the game yet. Ending the slider 00:59:082 (2) - on previous beat (00:59:457 - ) would work and it wouldn't really be a problem since you're still mapping to the vocals. You simply did gave players a bit more time to prepare to spin.
01:49:332 (2) - It's the same thing I mentioned on 00:23:832 (2) - since beats that mark a section change are really important to simply let them slip by using a simple slider end.
02:24:582 (2,1) - Same thing as 00:59:082 (2,1) -
03:00:582 (4,1,2) - Flow to the next sliders is a little bit weird, since players weren't really expecting this change of pattern. Sadly, I can't really think of any way to fix this without really altering your next patterns, so I'll just leave this here so you can think about it.
03:03:582 (5,1) - It's better if you avoid this kind of stacking out of the blue, since it's the first time you stack continous notes like this (meaning it's the first time you stack notes that need to be clicked in sucession). I'd suggest unstacking those.
03:08:832 (3,1) - You better check the blanket here since it looks a bit weird to me.
03:26:082 (2,1) - Same as the other spinners I've already mentioned.
The diff is kinda relaxing, but I think you need a bit more of 1/2 notes on it since Hard has lots of 1/2 singles and you barely placed 1/2 clicks at all on this diff.

[Hard]

00:22:894 (1,1) - I don't know why do you place the NCs like this since those three sliders are part of the same pattern and the same measure, meaning the NCs are kinda useless here in my opinion. They also alter the overall HP drain and your NC pattern. You should remove the NCs (or explain me why do you keep them, since I don't know ;w;).
01:01:988 - You could move the green timing section here to 01:02:082 - for mere aesthetics. It will keep the same effect on the next slider, so it wouldn't matter if you move it there.
01:48:394 (1,1) - Same as 00:22:894 (1,1) -
02:27:488 - Same as 01:01:988 -
Oh, this diff flows, sounds and plays so lovely. Good job!

[Kibbleru's Lunatic]

Excellent in my eyes. Nice diff owo. I think my only "catch" was that you kinda missed the beats on 01:26:832 - and 04:19:332 - . The final parts of those sections feel kinda empty without mapping those since they are kinda loud. It's kinda ankward to finish section merely with a 1/4 slider end.

Extra seems to be okay in my eyes too (and for some reason that diff is easier for me than Kibbleru's one??).

Overall, this map is pretty much polished already, and it can practically be ranked already imo.

Well, good luck!

Narcissu

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Narcissu 2015-04-10T03:03:18+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
Overall Impression
好图，但细节有些还应该打磨
因为太长并且你的mod帮助不太大，选一个难度摸
Notice: If my understanding level is too low, I am not sure this mod will be really helpful.
Mod

Extra
My understanding level of you map: 95%
My rating of you map: 85%
00:17:457 (4) - 虽然是故意压住的，但实际感觉并不好，DS加大吧，个人倾向是……我不喜歡分開1/4，分開的我都加了紫色
00:35:457 (6) - x252y328……好
00:37:332 (1) - 不包住么……這不是包着麼……
00:46:332 (1,2,3) - 和前后相比太挤了，就算要包也分开（我建议是不要包）……我覺得沒關係
01:17:832 (1,2) - flow的切断应该在01:18:394 (2,3) - 进行 …… 聽不懂……
01:24:582 (7,8) - 两个角度都陡一点，正好把flow送到01:25:332 (1) - 去……我覺得沒關係
02:11:832 (1,2,3) - 挤
02:33:207 (2) - 顺时针转动5到15度都行 …… 我不喜歡45度的斜角
02:33:957 (5) -
SPOILER
04:03:769 (4) - 逆时针转19度，包或者不包都应该转
04:13:332 (1) - 逆时针转20度左右

AIR wrote:
[Normal]
00:12:582 (2) - 略微有些弧度 …… 好
00:23:832 (2) - …… 好
01:49:332 (2) - 改的话类似
01:26:832 (1) - 04:19:332 (1) - 去nc …… 這個肯定還會被別人要求加上去的個肯定還會被別人要求加上去的
[Hard]
00:07:894 (2) - 尾部whistle …… fix ~
00:17:644 (1) - 长条提前红线orz…… fix ~
01:12:957 (4,1) - 02:38:457 (4,1) - 03:41:457 (4,1) - 04:05:457 (4,1) - 可以调下次序……這個有點多而且效果差不多……就算了orz
03:11:832 - 后面几个条感觉上可以发散些orz……會出界orz
03:38:457 (3,4,1,2) - 感觉上34ds可以略大12些 …… 好，星又漲了233
04:02:457 (3,4,1,2) - 类似
[Kibbleru's Lunatic]
00:39:769 (3,4) - reverse order
00:48:582 (1) - http://puu.sh/h7ovC/fae671596c.png
[Extra]
00:10:707 (4,6) - 感觉琴音有个上升，whistle建议6 …… 厚
03:02:832 (1,2,3,4) - 再填一段1/4感觉上比较帅 …… 本來是應該加這裡的和kibb的一樣，然而難度有點超標……另外前面的音其實都不在綫上我覺得我要被剛
03:35:363 (4,5) - 其实我并不太懂这样的分离的作用orz，~~凑个字数吧~~ …… 最後一段整體加難了一點 orz
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LixRei wrote:
Well, modding from PM request.
Let's start.

[Overview]

For some or other reason, you have enabled a countdown on Hard, Lunatic and Extra but not on Normal. It's recommended if you make this setting the same on every diff, as well as the "Widescreen Support". Sadly, both settings don't have any effect on your map ("Countdown" doesn't work because you start your map as soon as the song start, and "Widescreen Support" doesn't work because you don't have any Storyboard), so I recommend to disable both options on every diffs. They can be disabled on Song Setup>Design.
I've noticed several of the most recent "Touhou" maps actually use "東方Project" as Source instead of "Touhou". I think you can do the same, and add "Touhou" to Tags instead.
Hm... no more major issues overall. Cool song. <3

all fix ><

[Normal]

00:23:832 (2) - You know, using a reverse to play such a strong note like 00:25:332 - isn't really recommended to do, and it's even more discouraged if it also marks a change of section (meaning it marks a change in the rhythm). I would suggest removing the reverse of this slider and adding a circle on 00:25:332 - to mark the section change. It gives players a feeling of change, and it's kinda cool to have that kind of feel while playing since you know you can't just spam clicks around anymore. …… ok
00:34:332 (1) - You could improve flow a bit here, by placing the slider's reverse a bit down. That would enhance your actual flow, as well as it prepares players to click the next note. Those are the coordinates I found, if you want to use them: x:232|y:308
00:47:832 (5) - Pretty much what I've said on 00:23:832 (2) - …… ok
00:59:082 (2,1) - I think the time gap here isn't broad enough to prepare players to play the spinner. Normal players requiere a little bit of time to prepare for a spinner (but not as much as Easy players) since they aren't fully used to the game yet. Ending the slider 00:59:082 (2) - on previous beat (00:59:457 - ) would work and it wouldn't really be a problem since you're still mapping to the vocals. You simply did gave players a bit more time to prepare to spin.……a …… i think its no problem
01:49:332 (2) - It's the same thing I mentioned on 00:23:832 (2) - since beats that mark a section change are really important to simply let them slip by using a simple slider end.
02:24:582 (2,1) - Same thing as 00:59:082 (2,1) -
03:00:582 (4,1,2) - Flow to the next sliders is a little bit weird, since players weren't really expecting this change of pattern. Sadly, I can't really think of any way to fix this without really altering your next patterns, so I'll just leave this here so you can think about it.……yes the flow bad …… i use same direction reflected the rhythm
03:03:582 (5,1) - It's better if you avoid this kind of stacking out of the blue, since it's the first time you stack continous notes like this (meaning it's the first time you stack notes that need to be clicked in sucession). I'd suggest unstacking those. …… ok , i will separate it
03:08:832 (3,1) - You better check the blanket here since it looks a bit weird to me.
03:26:082 (2,1) - Same as the other spinners I've already mentioned.
The diff is kinda relaxing, but I think you need a bit more of 1/2 notes on it since Hard has lots of 1/2 singles and you barely placed 1/2 clicks at all on this diff. …… your are right …… but the diff will over 2.0 star if i add more 1/2 notes …… i will change it if qat say ……

[Hard]

00:22:894 (1,1) - I don't know why do you place the NCs like this since those three sliders are part of the same pattern and the same measure, meaning the NCs are kinda useless here in my opinion. They also alter the overall HP drain and your NC pattern. You should remove the NCs (or explain me why do you keep them, since I don't know ;w;). …… i wish point the 1/1 DS ……
01:01:988 - You could move the green timing section here to 01:02:082 - for mere aesthetics. It will keep the same effect on the next slider, so it wouldn't matter if you move it there. …… add green link between the two object safer than in a object …… my map Poped because object in 01:02:082 - but my green link in 01:02:083 - ……
01:48:394 (1,1) - Same as 00:22:894 (1,1) -
02:27:488 - Same as 01:01:988 -
Oh, this diff flows, sounds and plays so lovely. Good job!

Extra seems to be okay in my eyes too (and for some reason that diff is easier for me than Kibbleru's one??). …… but my diff stra 4.6

Overall, this map is pretty much polished already, and it can practically be ranked already imo.

Well, good luck!

wait me to online translation …… my english very bad …… orz

@Kibbleru ： i change Source and tag …… orz

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