ONE OK ROCK - Clock Strikes · forum

Saut

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Saut 2015-03-19T21:06:09+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Summoned from the team queue - I'll be modding the Easy, Hard and Insane diffs, WildOne will be doing the other 4 when he gets the chance (:
EDIT: Also doing Advanced in WildOne's place since he's quite busy, so expect that from me soon instead

Before I begin, can I just say how much I like this song. It's just... amazing. As a J-Rock fan I'm actually ashamed I had not checked these guys out sooner, and as soon as I finish this mod I will be finding as much other stuff by them as I possibly can, so thank YOU for posting this request in our queue you're welcome m8, one ok rock is amazing

General Comments:
Personally, I found it quite hard to distinguish between combo colours (1) and (2). Maybe make (1) slightly more pink or (2) slightly more green? oke, i see i will try to get more contrast
Not a problem at all, but I'm curious as to why your custom hitsound samplesets go 1, 2, 3, then 48 because pishi is cray cray
03:09:176 - I'd like it if the final kiai section here was divided up into a few short bursts to give a more epic outro (at least in my opinion). I'd have kiai from 03:09:176 to 03:11:676 - 03:14:176 to 03:16:676 - 03:19:176 to 03:21:676 and then 03:24:176 to 03:26:676 actually a pretty good idea, I will change that soon (these dam green lines will kill me)
The song fades out really nicely anyway, but you could cut it a little to save file space since there's 22 seconds of unmapped outro. I'd have it fade out to 0% by the second high pitch guitar sound at 03:37:926 but you may like to leave it as is i would like to leave it like that, since the file isnt that large

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Easy
00:27:301 (2) - Personal point, but I'm not too keen on sliders like this. I have nothing against anchor points, I just feel that it's not doing enough here to give the slider any real definition. I would move the anchor point slightly further up to give a more defined bend like this: sounds deep, okok

00:32:301 (2) - ^

00:38:238 (3) - I think this would flow better if you Ctrl+H'ed, rotated 45 degrees cw and moved the head to [x-52,y-316] i see, but i would like to keep this movement more or less like this, but i made it less curvy

00:46:676 - Very minor, but you could drag the start of the break forward to the long white tick here (and for all other breaks) - I just feel it looks a bit nicer during play, but it's by no means essential: makes sense hue

oh and i noticed that this green inherited point was useless D:

02:26:988 (2) - You could maybe give this slider a little bit more of a curve so it blankets around the head of (4) like this: (just move the last grey point on the tail to [x-260,y-104], no other points necessary) yupp

03:12:301 - I know you're mapping vocals in between each of these spinners in the outro, but you could add a circle on the 2/1 here (and after each of your other spinners) for the strong drum beat and to keep the rhythm o disagree here, because two tacts are not enough to get back into focus after a spinner :s

Hard
00:23:394 (1) - I don't think this slider really fits the music as I can't make out a held note in either the vocals or the instrumental track. I think making this two 1/2 sliders at 00:23:394 and 00:23:863 would fit better. Maybe you don't want to do this as you have several more 1/2 sliders immediately after though... Even if you do decide to keep it, it's a really weird shape, and I feel it would be better as smooth curve changed to 2 1/2 sliders

02:22:926 (1) - You could move the anchor point to the middle of the slider here so the bend/direction change coincides with the cymbal in the drum track (I don't think the beat here is strong enough for a reverse arrow, but using the bend would fit the rhythm well IMO) ohoooo, the details are real, pishi will approve

03:16:832 (2) - More strange slider shapes, but I guess this was done to keep the flow? I'd hate for you to have to remap just to extend this into a smooth curve so I won't complain too much (: its a beautiful car, dont mock my car

Insane
Forgive me if some of these comments aren't helpful as this is a beyond my ability to playtest, but I'll give my (probably) useless thoughts anyway in the hope that at least one of them will have merit dont mind dont mind, you are doing fine

00:39:488 (2,3,4,5,6) - The note placement here seems a little arbitrary to me - Maybe try a pentagon shape that loops back around like this? uhh i hate following circle lines in obtuse angles, i usually try to create jumps with triangles and zigzag pattern like i did here (1,2,3 - riangle and 3 4 5 6 - zig zag) sharp angles are easier to play. Sharp angles are life.

01:00:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - As above, maybe try a square for (1-4) inside a larger triangle for (5-7)? [There's some more of patterns later on, so I won't keep bringing up the same point, especially since I may be talking complete trash xD] i loove these jumps pattern ))) And they are playable so i will keep all

Well this is about all I can find to give suggestions for. Sorry I couldn't give more feedback on the Insane, but hopefully there's at least some suggestions you can put to good use. If you want to ask me anything or need me to explain anything in more detail, please don't hesitate to PM me or post back in the team queue and I'll do my best to help.

Best of luck and thanks for introducing me to an awesome new band! (:

That mod was extremly useful, thanks m8. You are pretty good at modding huh.

Edit:

JBHyperion wrote:
Advanced
00:26:207 (5) - The pattern for the drums here is two kicks followed by four snares, so all of the last four repeats should have claps IMO, not just the ones at 00:26:363 and 00:26:519 - but maybe this is a bit overbearing? Your call :/ If you decide to do this, make sure to do the same at 00:36:363 (8) -, 02:38:863 (7) -, 02:43:863 (8) - and 02:48:551 (1) to maintain consistency it sounds way better this way, sooo i will keep it this way

00:46:676 - Add a break here? There's a 4 second unmapped section oops

01:59:176 - maybe make the volume 5% for the spinner end here since it leads into a quiet break? yup reduced to 15%

03:12:457 (3) - Move the grey point on the tail to [x-300,y-272] to perfect this blanket. If you do this, (4) and maybe (5) may need to be moved slightly to maintain DS yesss

Saut

473 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Saut 2015-03-19T21:41:36+00:00

WildOne94 wrote:
Hey there / yo

General
Some breaks start times would be nice seen dragged forward a bit like here (this was in normal diff at 01:11:676 -) yup fixed them all (tbh didnt even knew i could move the break time hehehehehehe)

Combo colour 2 (whitish) is a little hard to see the reverses like at 00:50:582 (1) - . Try darken it a bit oke, makes sense

It's really going to be hard to find suggestions in this beatmap ;w; come @ m3 bruuh

Normal
00:08:863 (5) - i know these are meant to by on the lyrics but this is a difficult normal. Suggest removing to give more emphasis on the next note pretty cool, changed
00:11:363 (5) - ^ Just sounds better
00:13:863 (5) - ^
00:18:394 (3) - Ctrl + H then X:200 Y:220 (Then 00:18:863 (4) - can be moved to x:196 y:88 for a much cuddlier blanket >w<) naaah i like placements like this
00:57:926 (2) - fix overlap i think the overlap isnt that fatal here, sure that makes sense, but i dont want to change the following pattern
00:58:863 (3) - remove the anchor in this slider. No need for it. oke :c
01:05:113 (2) - it be cool for a double blanket here of (2) going into the previous (1) slider yup
01:07:926 (2) - Little bit of overlap added an edge
01:27:926 (5) - ctrl + h nooooo
01:41:363 (4) - maybe make the end of this slider blanket into the next (1) ? stacked 1 on 3 and reranged stuff
01:51:051 (4) - drag this down a little for a better blanket (something like X:324 Y:156) k
01:54:801 (1) - blanket x:324 y:196 (feel free to decline if you think you have a bit too many but this one looks good) both is possible, i prefere it like this
01:56:988 - having a spinner here would sound really cool i dont know why i havent added a spinner here, since i did that in every diff
02:19:488 (2) - I'd add a 2nd point to this slider here at x:232 y:344 not really necessary
02:37:613 (3) - you miss a very loud drum sound in this slider. do something like you did with 02:36:676 (1,2) - nah, dont want to add tooo many 1/2 spaces, i think its fine the way it is
02:38:863 - for that drum roll sound it would be cool for a 1/2 reverse here (which means moving and deleting some things) but i dont want dem normal players to die
02:40:113 (3) - same as 02:37:613 (3) -
02:43:863 - same as 02:38:863 -
03:14:176 (1) - blanket (6) k
03:24:176 (1) - this is a really confusing slider on where to follow the ball at first. consider changing (or just the start of it where the anchor is) need some more opinons here, bookmarked this

lastly the very last timing point i would lower the volume to about 20 - 30% and add a finish at the end of the spinner lowered to 30% but a finish sounds doesnt really fit imo

thanks for modding, helped alot!

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

- Milhofo - 2015-03-19T23:53:36+00:00

Hi, from my modding queue

<-- lies but I don't feel like deleting it

[General]

I took so long that you got tons of mods now my job is going to be even harder ; ; gj me
I'm going to stick to the Insanes up, if you really (but reallyyy) need a mod on the easier diffs call me again
Last but not least, god I love this song.

[pishi's Insane]

00:26:676 (1,2) - I feel like this jump hurts a bit since it's the "easiest" insane, you could blanket it with the stream or so, to make it that the jump gap difference between 1 - 2 and 2 - 3 isn't so big (the other ones are like this, but as this is the first one it comes right at your face and makes my wrist have a seizure due to the sudden movement c: )
00:28:863 (5,1) - confusing overlap, making 5 vertical would help (moving it a bit too)
01:30:738 (2) - ctrl+g and curve it upwards? imo this slider alone ruins the flow of the whole combo
01:49:176 (1,2) - the flow here isn't the best imo, but I can't really come up with a better idea, but maybe you could xd
01:56:051 (4) - rotate by ~ -70º on selection centre, I think it flows better
02:17:926 (1,2) - mhm the jump feels off when playing, rotate 2?
The distance changes in the chorus jumps might be confusing at first, but I think it's a personal thing and the rest of the map is fine :3

[Insane]

I myself wouldn't change a thing, I fell in love with this since the first time I played it lol all of these are because I need to be picky in mods yay..
00:56:363 (4,1,2) - flow is a bit icky, but you would have to change the whole following pattern so idk
01:35:113 (3,4,5) - I think you should differenciate the last two sliders from the first, this is purely to fit the song and has nothing to do with playability
-> 03:28:863 - missing note I think, but a single note would look and play ugly imo, so my suggestion would be adding a slider that would start here and end at 03:29:097 - with the end beeing silent (vol at 5%)
I love your mapping style, keep the maps coming

[Moway's Extra]

00:16:363 (3,1) - I would get 3 a bit closer to 1, the spacing doesn't really bend with the song (if this makes sense)
00:38:707 (5,6) - rip flow, I know 6 is blanketing that note but for me flow > blankets, and this one is barely noticeable really
02:18:707 (4,5,6,7,8) - imo the first jump is too big (did it change from 1 month ago? I think it wasn't like this), such a big jump into a stream is unecessary, I think instead of this, make the jump before 4 smaller, you should exchange them and make that one bigger so it's easier to get into the stream with smaller jump
02:21:206 (4,5,6,7,8) - same as above, and every other afterwards
02:48:551 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - chills everytime, love this part
03:06:363 (5,1,2) - big difference in spacing, moving 1 would improve this part

Sorry for the small mod, I'm really tired, haven't modded in a while and the map is great, I already loved it before you put it in pending lol I did try my best *throws one more star* GL :3

Saut

473 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Saut 2015-03-20T09:27:29+00:00

Milhofo wrote:
Hi

hi

[General]
I took so long that you got tons of mods now my job is going to be even harder ; ; gj me
I'm going to stick to the Insanes up, if you really (but reallyyy) need a mod on the easier diffs call me again
Last but not least, god I love this song. one ok rock hype train

[Insane]
I myself wouldn't change a thing, I fell in love with this since the first time I played it lol all of these are because I need to be picky in mods yay.. i like picky
00:56:363 (4,1,2) - flow is a bit icky, but you would have to change the whole following pattern so idk reranged stuff here
01:35:113 (3,4,5) - I think you should differenciate the last two sliders from the first, this is purely to fit the song and has nothing to do with playability sounds intelligent hue
-> 03:28:863 - missing note I think, but a single note would look and play ugly imo, so my suggestion would be adding a slider that would start here and end at 03:29:097 - with the end beeing silent (vol at 5%) well, okok
I love your mapping style, keep the maps coming thanks milfbro ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sorry for the small mod, I'm really tired, haven't modded in a while and the map is great, I already loved it before you put it in pending lol I did try my best *throws one more star* GL :3

thanks for modding and sp mate (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-03-23T10:03:44+00:00

[General]

None

[Easy]

03:02:613 - here is sound vocal. note add please
03:24:176 (1) - i think this note no overlap batter imo
SPOILER

[Normal]

00:17:301 (2) - missing blanket
02:26:676 (1) - move 252:96? cuz shape batter
SPOILER

[Hard]

00:55:113 (4) - Ctrl+G?

call me back your already

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2015-03-23T18:53:35+00:00

WildOne94 wrote:
pishi's Insane
There are no hitsounds at the start of this diff. Please include some increased volumes on certain objects = my hitsounds :p that's why there's 1000 green lines in the intro

00:06:676 (1,2) - wouldn't this looking better and play better as a sort of far away blanket? it wouldn't

00:11:051 (3) - move out from under the cover. infact maybe 00:10:738 (2,3,4,1) - can look like a symmetry pattern some how but that breaks consistency with everywhere :/ and it's not intended to be symmetrical anyway
00:14:332 (2) - looks better as a curve and without the anchor but it doesnt
00:15:269 (1) - ^ dsfsd
00:19:644 (3) - There is no sound or any noise here. Remove uhhhhh there is tho
00:20:269 (1) - anchor problem again (Some i missed but maybe you prefer them this way. Just think curves go better with the music) i do prefer it this way :p
00:28:863 (5) - remove one reverse would make things even more confusing then cuz of distances :/
00:33:863 (5) - ^ ^
00:46:519 (1) - nice SV but i feel like this should be even more slower. Maybe 0.65 (custom) cool
00:56:597 - it be nice to hear some triplet notes on this beatmap. like here nah to all of these overmaptriples. trying not to use too many dificult rhythms :p
01:01:441 - ^
01:01:597 - ^
01:03:707 (4) - curve (4) so it blankets (2) and fixes the overlap overlap dont need fixin
01:06:051 (5) - i would move this because it would be hard to see (even if it is for an insane) try somewhere like x:224 y:120 which flows nice in a kind of arch way people be blind
01:11:676 (2) - add a finish no finish in the music tho
01:24:332 (2) - separate this and suggest moving to x:92 y:296 for a triangle shape stacks arent just there cuz i'm randomly placing things :c
01:29:332 (2) - ^ i am sure you can find some good pattern here :3 i did and it's a stack
01:33:238 (2) - i never really liked these >w< so i would personally make it into a jump instead of the short distance from (1) o well
01:34:644 (2) - copy and paste the last slider and rotate to where it was positioned before dont want exact same tho boring
01:44:801 (3,4) - swap these two over idk what you mean by swap over these are the same as every other kiai ._.
01:46:676 (8,1) - ^
01:47:926 (5,1) - ^ definite switch cause it sound better with the vocals by far
01:52:926 (6) - ^ (but maybe not cause of the drums but your choice)
01:56:519 (5) - needs more of a climax here so make this into more of a jump (i did x:412 y:176) 2big
02:07:926 (1,2) - swap
02:13:082 (2) - shorten the slider and add a note at 02:13:551 (3) - but why
02:16:207 (3) - add circle does not really work with what i've got surrounding it
02:42:301 (3) - move somewhere else away from (1) (or the opposite and move (1)) so much why
02:55:269 (5) - remove wat no
02:59:176 (8,1) - swap uh
03:07:769 (5,6,1) - make the distance between them a little bit more greater it's k
03:20:113 (5) - i would just have a circle not here instead of a slider what about hte 50 other places i dothis ._.
03:27:769 (5,6,1) - same as before yea
03:29:254 (1) - add finish (and include the timing points from other diffs) finish for a vocal sound wat

milhohoho

Milhofo wrote:
[pishi's Insane]
00:26:676 (1,2) - I feel like this jump hurts a bit since it's the "easiest" insane, you could blanket it with the stream or so, to make it that the jump gap difference between 1 - 2 and 2 - 3 isn't so big (the other ones are like this, but as this is the first one it comes right at your face and makes my wrist have a seizure due to the sudden movement c: )can't really move it closer without overlapping the stream or getting rid of the drop effect so :c
00:28:863 (5,1) - confusing overlap, making 5 vertical would help (moving it a bit too) i've used that on a hard diff before it can't be that confusing :p
01:30:738 (2) - ctrl+g and curve it upwards? imo this slider alone ruins the flow of the whole combo yeeeeeaok
01:49:176 (1,2) - the flow here isn't the best imo, but I can't really come up with a better idea, but maybe you could xd i did
01:56:051 (4) - rotate by ~ -70º on selection centre, I think it flows better too much for me idk
02:17:926 (1,2) - mhm the jump feels off when playing, rotate 2? mk
The distance changes in the chorus jumps might be confusing at first, but I think it's a personal thing and the rest of the map is fine :3

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HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2015-03-24T14:07:16+00:00

Good Luck your 2nd Ranked. Nice >w<

Bubbled

Saut

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Saut 2015-03-24T15:45:03+00:00

thx habiiiii

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

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-Tochi 2015-03-24T15:46:46+00:00

Graaatzz!!!! owob

Good luck~

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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JBHyperion 2015-03-24T15:47:39+00:00

Hype! ^^

Aka

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Joined January 2012

Aka 2015-03-24T22:31:32+00:00

hello! popping the bubble due to pretty late timing (~~~6660 sounds better for me) and not enough recovery time 00:49:176 (1) - after spinner in hard AND for unapplied mod of moway's diff. seriously, be careful lol

irc modding now with mapper~~, stay tuned o/~~

so we adjusted some patterns in insane and hard diff, increased ar in advanced diff, spacing in normal diff. removed spinner from hard diff and changed timing, which got confirmed by charles

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Moway

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Joined January 2012

Moway 2015-03-25T01:02:05+00:00

Milhofo wrote:
Hi, from my modding queue <-- lies but I don't feel like deleting it

[Moway's Extra]
00:16:363 (3,1) - I would get 3 a bit closer to 1, the spacing doesn't really bend with the song (if this makes sense) moved a bit, but keeping the general idea. I really like the sudden jump after the held slider here/
00:38:707 (5,6) - rip flow, I know 6 is blanketing that note but for me flow > blankets, and this one is barely noticeable really not really sure what the suggestion is here, but the flow is pretty circular from (4,5)
02:18:707 (4,5,6,7,8) - imo the first jump is too big (did it change from 1 month ago? I think it wasn't like this), such a big jump into a stream is unecessary, I think instead of this, make the jump before 4 smaller, you should exchange them and make that one bigger so it's easier to get into the stream with smaller jump decreased some of the spacing here
02:21:206 (4,5,6,7,8) - same as above, and every other afterwards I agree that the first one was a bit awkward, but my idea here is jump into the stack, so it goes quickly from big movement to no movement. I think it works pretty well!
02:48:551 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - chills everytime, love this part thanks!
03:06:363 (5,1,2) - big difference in spacing, moving 1 would improve this part I don't think it's much bigger of a jump than other sections, and the circular flow from (4,5) makes this feel like a smaller jump anyhow
Sorry for the small mod, I'm really tired, haven't modded in a while and the map is great, I already loved it before you put it in pending lol I did try my best *throws one more star* GL :3

WildOne94

Moway's Extra
This is so cool! won't be a big mod cause it's pretty good already and i can't play this too XD.

00:29:957 (4) - for symmetry make this slider a clone of 00:30:269 (1) - and ctrl + h, ctrl + j it into place where it was sure
00:44:019 (1,2) - make (1) into a reverse and (2) deleted (just think it goes better with that vocal part) I think this works ok, I like having the slider on the red tick, and an object to hit on the next red tick
01:06:363 (5) - i like the idea of deleting this and making a stream. don't hear it in the music, so I'll pass on this
01:21:988 (2) - could angle that a bit better so it's mirrored from (1) supposed to be some rotation with these sliders
01:41:832 (2) - move the end point of this slider to x:340 y:252 so it's not so squished did some different adjustment
02:07:144 (2) - add a curve to this one like the previous (1) reverse leaving this one
02:16:676 (1,2,3) - don't stack these. spread them out since they are slow and further spaced out notes on the timeline I like the stack, serves as the start of the build up
03:15:582 (2) - the end of this slider is a bit cramped up. try not strain it so much >w<
03:24:332 (2) - ^ I think these are fine, I want the bend to be at the very end of the slider so that it doesn't create movement in the opposite direction earlier than that

Thanks guys!

http://puu.sh/gOoWW/53c171c533.osu

Aka

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Aka 2015-03-25T21:35:18+00:00

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Saut 2015-03-25T21:45:04+00:00

hype 2, thx aka