16:20 ExKagii-: yo? =w=
16:21 schwarzvgrune: ?
16:21 schwarzvgrune: yes/
16:22 schwarzvgrune: do we know each other..? ;w;
16:22 ExKagii-: can you help me for mod?
16:22 schwarzvgrune: o.o
16:22 schwarzvgrune: well..
16:22 schwarzvgrune: which map?
16:22 ExKagii-: nope xD
16:23 *ExKagii- is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/664072 you - Mist Tek]
16:23 schwarzvgrune: how do you know that im online though =="
16:24 schwarzvgrune: can i just do mod via chat?
16:24 schwarzvgrune: i dont have time to do manual mods
16:24 schwarzvgrune: i mean, can i mod nnow?
16:24 ExKagii-: mmmm oke
16:24 ExKagii-: up to yyou
16:25 schwarzvgrune: have you read brian's mod?
16:25 schwarzvgrune: and also a note
16:25 ExKagii-: yu[
16:25 ExKagii-: p
16:25 schwarzvgrune: when someone mod your map please properly reply to their mods which part you implemented and which part you did not
16:25 schwarzvgrune: you didn't reply to brian's mod, as seen from the thread
16:25 ExKagii-: brian's mod has fixed
16:25 *schwarzvgrune is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/664072 you - Mist Tek [EXHAUST]]
16:26 schwarzvgrune: add a note here, you've been following them, try to stick with it consistently.
16:26 schwarzvgrune: 00:04:650 -
16:26 ExKagii-: ok
16:26 schwarzvgrune: `00:04:950 -
16:26 schwarzvgrune: note: you can reject my mod, mod is just a suggestion, but give the modder reasons if you reject their mods
16:26 schwarzvgrune: 00:05:850 - add a note too
16:27 ExKagii-: oke nex
16:27 schwarzvgrune: if you dont know where to place i can tell you, but i don't think you have issues with placing as seen from your maps, its quite well done already
16:27 ExKagii-: nope i know =w=
16:28 schwarzvgrune: 00:07:800 (7800|2,8250|3) - LN abuse, this LN should be half of its current length
16:28 schwarzvgrune: 00:08:700 (8700|1,9150|2,9300|1) - something like this length,
16:28 schwarzvgrune: please readjust.
16:29 schwarzvgrune: wait
16:29 ExKagii-: mm oke that nice
16:29 schwarzvgrune: wait
16:29 ExKagii-: ok
16:29 schwarzvgrune: your whole LN on those part are actually inconsistent
16:29 schwarzvgrune: what are you trying to express with those LN?
16:29 ExKagii-: mmmm
16:29 schwarzvgrune: the high pitched instrument right?
16:30 schwarzvgrune: i can read indonesian, you can use indonesian if you want but i cannot reply you in indonesian
16:30 ExKagii-: maybe ..
16:30 schwarzvgrune: why maybe ==
16:30 schwarzvgrune: your placing seems random to me
16:30 schwarzvgrune: i suggest you follow the pitched instrument
16:30 schwarzvgrune: because its very loud and clear
16:30 schwarzvgrune: in which case
16:31 ExKagii-: cause its a creation , in my opinion :3
16:31 schwarzvgrune: it should be something lik this
16:31 schwarzvgrune: no you cannot do that
16:31 schwarzvgrune: there cannot be notes that are just there for the sake of being there
16:31 ExKagii-: so what will i do"?
16:31 schwarzvgrune: you must express parts of the song clearly
16:31 schwarzvgrune: wait
16:31 schwarzvgrune: i'll give you some suggestions
16:31 ExKagii-: oke
16:33 schwarzvgrune: use 25% playback to recheck, this placing is accurately representing the pitched instrument, you can adjust the note placement for hand balance, but htis is what it could looks like in general,
16:34 schwarzvgrune: 00:07:800 -
16:34 schwarzvgrune:
http://puu.sh/gOLMk/40614ed289.jpg16:34 ExKagii-: change the note?
16:34 schwarzvgrune: 00:09:900 -
http://puu.sh/gOLNk/c04dc106ff.jpg yeah, adjust your LNs
16:34 ExKagii-: mmm i'll try
16:35 schwarzvgrune: revamp your whole LNs, to what i give you on the picture there, and you can use 25% to check, my placing consistently express the pitch, and with correct snapping as wel
16:35 ExKagii-: ok wait
16:36 ExKagii-: ok FIXER
16:37 ExKagii-: FIXED
16:38 schwarzvgrune: you abuse the LN too much across whole diffs,
16:38 schwarzvgrune: i'll try to point them out
16:38 schwarzvgrune: 00:12:000 -
16:39 schwarzvgrune:
http://puu.sh/gOLVU/1f13b3688e.jpg use that sdvx hitsound on those LN
16:39 schwarzvgrune: like this one, that soft-hitclap hitsound?
16:39 ExKagii-: ok ok
16:39 schwarzvgrune:
http://puu.sh/gOLWI/a1d4513224.jpg16:40 ExKagii-: wait
16:40 schwarzvgrune: 00:11:700 (11700|3) - move to 3, 00:11:850 - add a note to 4.
16:40 schwarzvgrune: 00:13:350 (13350|0,13650|3) - delete
16:41 schwarzvgrune: 00:16:350 (16350|1,16650|3) -
16:41 schwarzvgrune: delete as well
16:41 schwarzvgrune: 00:18:150 (18150|3) - delete don't worry i have other suggestions
16:42 ExKagii-: okd
16:42 ExKagii-: oke
16:49 schwarzvgrune: 00:13:200 -
http://puu.sh/gOMgM/ac67209ef4.jpg 16:50 schwarzvgrune: 00:17:700 (17700|2,17700|0) - use that sdvx hitsound on the LN instead, and use normal one for short note
16:50 schwarzvgrune: 00:18:900 (18900|1) - move to 400:19:050 (19050|3) - to 2
16:51 ExKagii-: oke
16:51 schwarzvgrune: 00:20:400 - add 1 more note, for emphasis because this is where the phase change
16:51 schwarzvgrune: 00:20:850 (20850|3) - delete no strong beat should be 1 note
16:52 schwarzvgrune: 00:21:000 - add 1 more note, the beat is here.. please use 25% playback when you map to make sure your placing is accurate. your LNs at the moment seems to suggest that the placing is really random and you either put those LNs out of the blue, or you're following what you want to follow inaccurately (i.e placing them 2/4 beat faster, or slower, than the actual pitch in the song)
16:52 schwarzvgrune: 00:21:450 - add a note, strong emphasis on beat
16:53 ExKagii-: ok
16:53 schwarzvgrune: 00:21:750 (21750|0,22050|3,22350|2,22500|0,22500|3) - delete this too,
16:53 ExKagii-: next
16:54 ExKagii-: mmm why?
16:54 schwarzvgrune: the length is wrong
16:54 schwarzvgrune: if you want to follow that song
16:54 schwarzvgrune: i mean
16:54 schwarzvgrune: that sdvx sound
16:54 schwarzvgrune: the length should be
16:54 ExKagii-: ok ok
16:55 schwarzvgrune: 00:21:900 -
http://puu.sh/gOMrc/e1974f78b5.jpg should be 2/4. ignore the placing, you can adjust your placing.
16:55 schwarzvgrune: those LNs at 1 and 4, add sdvx hitsound for emphasis
16:56 ExKagii-: ok
16:57 schwarzvgrune: 00:27:600 (27600|0,28500|3,29400|2) - this is also wrong, if you are folowing that umm how do you call it, flying airplane's machine's sound
16:57 schwarzvgrune: it should be 4 x 4/4 beat
16:57 schwarzvgrune: sorry, wrong
16:57 schwarzvgrune: 4 x 8/4 beat
16:57 ExKagii-: mmmm i will fix
16:57 schwarzvgrune: adjust the placing, this is for example. the length is like this, but you can adjust your placement
http://puu.sh/gOMwi/2f292ba0b8.jpg16:58 schwarzvgrune: 00:31:650 (31650|3) - this is correct, but i suggest to delete it because the LN seems very random, out of nowhere, and its only 1
16:59 schwarzvgrune: 00:34:800 (34800|1,35100|2,35400|3) - this is also wrong, plaacing should be 2/4 beat earlier
16:59 schwarzvgrune: 00:33:750 (33750|2,34050|2) - like these 2, these placement is correct
17:00 ExKagii-: ok ok
17:00 schwarzvgrune: and the rest
17:00 schwarzvgrune: there are many inconsisstencies in the diffs, especially on LNs
17:00 schwarzvgrune: can you do a whole recheck first?
17:00 schwarzvgrune: i cannot point them one by one there are too many mistakes >_<
17:01 ExKagii-: mmmm oke i will re check
17:01 schwarzvgrune: style is not an excuse when you place them randomly.
17:01 schwarzvgrune: however if you place them correctly, and you decide not to use LN, but SN instead for example, then this is fine
17:01 schwarzvgrune: my suggestions on LNs are not absolute, but if you want to use LN, that is when you should place them
17:02 schwarzvgrune: if you think there are too many lns, you can just use SN to express those sound that i pointed out
17:02 ExKagii-: but i'll have found other mods to recheck it
17:02 schwarzvgrune: for example
17:02 schwarzvgrune: 00:57:600 (57600|0,57900|1,57900|2,58200|2,58350|0,58500|1) -
17:02 ExKagii-: yap
17:02 schwarzvgrune: you are following piano pitch here
17:02 ExKagii-: yes
17:03 schwarzvgrune: but this placing there is wrong after that
17:03 schwarzvgrune: 00:58:800 (58800|3,59000|2,59250|2,59250|1,59400|2,59400|3,59700|3,59700|0) - around these part
17:03 schwarzvgrune: LNs should be
17:03 schwarzvgrune:
http://puu.sh/gOMIM/bd51f25993.jpg17:03 schwarzvgrune: if you're following the piano
17:04 schwarzvgrune: you just stretch them randomly, and your placing is also inaccurate
17:04 ExKagii-: but thats following 2 sound ?
17:04 schwarzvgrune: no
17:04 schwarzvgrune: its only piano
17:04 schwarzvgrune: wait
17:04 schwarzvgrune: i'll break it down
17:04 schwarzvgrune: wait
17:04 ExKagii-: oke i will rechack that
17:04 schwarzvgrune: you mean who?
17:04 schwarzvgrune: my suggestion following 2 sounds?
17:04 schwarzvgrune: or your map wants to follow 2 sounds?
17:05 ExKagii-: my suggestion
17:05 schwarzvgrune: my suggestion is only piano, LN
17:05 schwarzvgrune: here
17:05 schwarzvgrune: a pitch here 00:58:800 -
17:05 schwarzvgrune: and then a pitch here 00:59:000 - use 1/6
17:05 ExKagii-: ok will recheck it
17:06 schwarzvgrune: a pitch here 00:59:250 -
17:06 schwarzvgrune: a pitch here 00:59:400 -
17:06 schwarzvgrune: and also when you look for mod please look for people that are an expert in pitch agreement and relevancy
17:06 schwarzvgrune: to check on those things
17:06 schwarzvgrune: people who only map by pattern usually cannot spot those differences
17:06 ExKagii-: ok ok
17:07 schwarzvgrune: for example, these are correct
17:07 schwarzvgrune: 01:06:300 (66300|3,66600|2,66600|0,66900|1) -
17:07 schwarzvgrune: the placing is also correct
17:08 ExKagii-: oke , but the in correct palcing i'll check soon
17:08 schwarzvgrune: 01:06:300 (66300|3,66600|2,66600|0,66900|1) - your're mapping that shouting sound? how about using LN?
17:09 ExKagii-: mmmm
17:09 schwarzvgrune: 01:38:400 (98400|1,98700|2,99000|1) - these placing is too early, should place it 2/4 beat later, and also length should be 2/4
17:10 schwarzvgrune:
http://puu.sh/gOMWr/65959c793b.jpg17:10 ExKagii-: mmm but its ok ?
17:10 schwarzvgrune: what do you mean?
17:10 ExKagii-: oke done
17:10 schwarzvgrune: your current placing is incorrect
17:11 schwarzvgrune: too early
17:11 schwarzvgrune: etc
17:11 ExKagii-: fixed
17:11 schwarzvgrune: you can do self mod and also ask for other ppl to mod
17:11 schwarzvgrune: i can recheck when its more refined
17:11 ExKagii-: ok ok