[web] Countries Ranking based on Average pp instead of total

[Kanzaki Ranko]

Joined June 2009

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[Kanzaki Ranko] 2013-08-09T00:48:18+00:00

Countries Ranking should be based on average pp.
My point of view is: measuring which country's players play better makes more sense than quantifying the amount of players that play "decently" in that country.

Of course, this should also be combined with Regional Ranking mentioned here by peppy (thanks CDFA for the link); we don't want Heard Island and McDonald Islands being #1 for having a single player who has nearly 4kpp.

Last edited by [Kanzaki Ranko] 2013-08-09T04:46:32+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2013-08-09T01:03:28+00:00

This is the regional rankings you were asking for: t/124920&start=0

It'd be nicer if you could choose what to base the rankings off of (aka. Organize by number of players, organize by total playcount, etc)

Luvdic

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Joined July 2009

Luvdic 2013-08-09T01:40:30+00:00

I think its better a sum of the pp of the top 100 or *insert your appropiate number here* rather than all players of the country

TakuMii

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Joined October 2009

TakuMii 2013-08-09T03:10:39+00:00

Xanandra wrote:
I think its better a sum of the pp of the top 100 or *insert your appropiate number here* rather than all players of the country

Or better yet, the top 10%. That way, it'll be more consistent no matter how many people are in a single country.

[Kanzaki Ranko]

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Joined June 2009

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[Kanzaki Ranko] 2013-08-09T04:45:56+00:00

Xanandra wrote:
I think its better a sum of the pp of the top 100 or *insert your appropiate number here* rather than all players of the country

Having it be a sum makes it unfair for smaller countries; which is excatly what I'm trying to avoid with this suggestion.

YayMii wrote:
Xanandra wrote:
I think its better a sum of the pp of the top 100 or *insert your appropiate number here* rather than all players of the country
Or better yet, the top 10%. That way, it'll be more consistent no matter how many people are in a single country.

This one was pretty good. (if you're talking about top 10%'s average pp, that is)

Full Tablet

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Joined September 2011

Full Tablet 2013-08-09T06:00:32+00:00

What about making each country be considered as a player, which has the best performance of the best player in the country each map?

For example: some player from Canada does a record in a song, gaining pp, if that record is also the best record done by a Canadian player, then Canada also gets pp from that song (which would increase it's overall pp or not because of pp weighting).

N i k k i

15 posts

Joined April 2012

N i k k i 2013-08-09T17:26:17+00:00

I think It's a nice Idea
But i think there is a problem, because if there many new players the pp of a country will go down by fast. ^^
Maybe the average pp of the top 100 player's or maybe a bit different ;D

Drezi

217 posts

Joined January 2014

Drezi 2015-03-18T10:24:28+00:00

As you can see country rankings right now are based on the simple sum of all it's players' performances, and that's not too relevant. https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking

My suggestion is simple - individual player pp isn't a simple sum of all our performances either (that would be terrible right?), so country rankings could use the exact same method to weight every player's performance and use that for rankings.

Just like this, only with player PP values instead of map PP:

Same logic could be applied to get a more meaningful country PP:

Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that country ranking pages should look like the above or be modified in any way - it's only a demonstration for how the value could be calculated that is used here: https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking

Bauxe

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Joined August 2012

Bauxe 2015-03-18T11:03:45+00:00

I like this idea.

blahpy

297 posts

Joined November 2013

blahpy 2015-03-18T11:14:09+00:00