In that case, AR should be a lot higher on a lot of ranked maps and a lot lower on a lot of other ranked maps. A lot of the basis of HR mod, even, is challenging people to read a very low object density (150-170bpm ar10 anyone?)I don't think anyone should conclude the fact the hr exist in thinking what AR they should use..
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keep calm and let the mapper answer okey?
Thank you guys for giving your opinion on this map.
I would be glad to see good posts which help the mapper, sadly this isn't the case anymore.
I lock this topic for now, we'll reopen it when the mapper will contact me or any QAT/GMT
wee~
I would be glad to see good posts which help the mapper, sadly this isn't the case anymore.
I lock this topic for now, we'll reopen it when the mapper will contact me or any QAT/GMT
wee~
Since when was "shitposting" a term in the osu! community?
Surely this isn't so bad we have to lock the thread.
If you guys are complaining about maps getting disqualified, stop playing the qualified maps. They have their own category for a reason.
Surely this isn't so bad we have to lock the thread.
If you guys are complaining about maps getting disqualified, stop playing the qualified maps. They have their own category for a reason.
I agee that higher AR will feel better, but AR10 will be awkward since there are also relatively slower parts.
I have restored some posts that could be useful for references in the future.
Let the discussion go on
(I agree with most of top players agree on as a #97)
Let the discussion go on
(I agree with most of top players agree on as a #97)
unranked again??? why ㅜ_ㅜ
Even though this isn't helpful to the mapper.
There is a trend with Awaken "super insane diffs" where they get qualified, disqualified over and over until BN had enough and are "satisfied" at the same time the star difficulty.
I MEAN COME ON, The same thing happened to Hanairo Biyori (From 6.11 to 6.48)
Maybe be more careful with qualifying maps? Disqualifying a map that was "hype" qualified just pisses off the community (Oh, just don't play qualified maps) but that isn't a good solution. (Well... the disqualification wasn't because of the that one diff) but it still is affected because new people still mod the diff.
Can we just not repeat this again?
There is a trend with Awaken "super insane diffs" where they get qualified, disqualified over and over until BN had enough and are "satisfied" at the same time the star difficulty.
I MEAN COME ON, The same thing happened to Hanairo Biyori (From 6.11 to 6.48)
Maybe be more careful with qualifying maps? Disqualifying a map that was "hype" qualified just pisses off the community (Oh, just don't play qualified maps) but that isn't a good solution. (Well... the disqualification wasn't because of the that one diff) but it still is affected because new people still mod the diff.
Can we just not repeat this again?
I partially agree, and also somewhat disagree with your sentiments.Garpo wrote:
Even though this isn't helpful to the mapper.
There is a trend with Awaken "super insane diffs" where they get qualified, disqualified over and over until BN had enough and are "satisfied" at the same time the star difficulty.
I MEAN COME ON, The same thing happened to Hanairo Biyori (From 6.11 to 6.48)
Maybe be more careful with qualifying maps? Disqualifying a map that was "hype" qualified just pisses off the community (Oh, just don't play qualified maps) but that isn't a good solution. (Well... the disqualification wasn't because of the that one diff) but it still is affected because new people still mod the diff.
Can we just not repeat this again?
The way I see it, people have no right to be upset about scores being wiped, as this is standard protocol for maps being unqualified, and even unranked before qualified category existed. But, I think they have every right to be upset with the people who rushed it back into qualified. This whole situation could have been avoided in both cases by taking time and gathering opinions from people who are actually competent at this game, thus avoiding multiple unranks. It matters for maps like this especially, because high-end maps are made for high-end players.
Something which is also really bothersome is staff censoring complaints under the guise that they're cluttering up the thread and "shitposting". Nothing pisses people off more than pages going missing into AW when they are simply voicing opinions on the matter at hand.
od9 at least pls
posts get back,cool
Good luck on re-rank! I love your Another Difficulty and can't wait to play it once it gets ranked again! ^ u ^
Best of luck to you!
Best of luck to you!
now the jumps leading up to the "hardest jumps of the map" are harder :c
Kinda sad that theres so much drama around the qualified thing.
Maybe it would be better to not give out PP for qualified maps while still taking record of score (?)
Anyways i really like the map and hope that you can rank it someday all the way.
But its expected to take multiple tries with a high-difficulty map in the mapset as many people will be aware of it, many people will search for mistakes in the mapset.
Maybe it would be better to not give out PP for qualified maps while still taking record of score (?)
Anyways i really like the map and hope that you can rank it someday all the way.
But its expected to take multiple tries with a high-difficulty map in the mapset as many people will be aware of it, many people will search for mistakes in the mapset.
LOL there is many unqualified BN's & QAT'S 
Be Smart And Neutral ...
Be Smart And Neutral ...I don't know whether you're insulting the BNG/QAT members or if you simply typed the opposite of what you meant. Either way, you make no sense, and should stop posting.OSUjanaiKATSURAda wrote:
LOL there is many unqualified BN's & QAT'S
02:17:766 (3,4) - ctrl+G and 02:18:039 (1,2) - Ctrl+G for second gonkakorokuu but then the sd will go to 7.07 rip but oh well flow pls
kby
kby
Guys its enough only post something that is relevant to the map we have heard enough opinions about the AR now it is up to the mapper
On-Topic Once you reply to Lust's mod get like 2-3 more mods and you can call me to give the map a check
On-Topic Once you reply to Lust's mod get like 2-3 more mods and you can call me to give the map a check
Nice find.
[Second Gonkanau]
02:18:311 (1) to 02:19:402 (7) - Placement and Flow
Download .osz (Run to install my changes as a separate difficulty for viewing)
Download text file
I'll mod more later, bed time now.
In addition to this I fixed the flow and placement of the notes here:VINXIS wrote:
02:17:766 (3,4) - ctrl+G and 02:18:039 (1,2) - Ctrl+G for second gonkakorokuu but then the sd will go to 7.07 rip but oh well flow pls
kby
[Second Gonkanau]
02:18:311 (1) to 02:19:402 (7) - Placement and Flow
Download text file
Images
- 02:18:311 (1) to 02:18:857 (2)
- 02:18:993 (3) - to 02:19:402 (7)
My Mod
If you need help hit me up.
159,383,138311,6,0,P|96:363|69:283,1,142.5,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,299,138584,70,0,B|183:259|183:259|228:244|228:244|244:199|279:184,1,178.125
308,260,138857,1,8,0:0:0:0:
95,25,138993,1,2,0:0:0:0:
308,260,139130,1,0,0:0:0:0:
471,107,139266,1,2,0:0:0:0:
471,107,139334,1,0,0:0:0:0:
471,107,139402,2,0,P|417:103|378:118,1,95,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
I'll mod more later, bed time now.
.Static Noise Bird wrote:
I don't know whether you're insulting the BNG/QAT members or if you simply typed the opposite of what you meant. Either way, you make no sense, and should stop posting.OSUjanaiKATSURAda wrote:
LOL there is many unqualified BN's & QAT'S
good point, I agree 100%OSUjanaiKATSURAda wrote:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh wow
oh wow
rank HW maps but unrank this ....
most critic is about readability .... and still unreadable 'shitmapping' gets ranked and this perfectly readable map doesn't
most critic is about readability .... and still unreadable 'shitmapping' gets ranked and this perfectly readable map doesn't
Zantaria wrote:
rank HW maps but unrank this ....
pls take your memes and get out, unless you'd like to share your logic :>
Yeah that's not modding that's you giving the mapper a code when the mapper doesn't even know what you changedCartographer wrote:
Nice find.Please take a look here, I like what you did and made it better.. I hope.VINXIS wrote:
02:17:766 (3,4) - ctrl+G and 02:18:039 (1,2) - Ctrl+G for second gonkakorokuu but then the sd will go to 7.07 rip but oh well flow pls
kby
[Second Gonkanau]
02:18:311 (1) to 02:19:402 (7) - Flow
Cartographers modMy ModIf you need help hit me up.159,383,138311,6,0,P|96:363|69:283,1,142.5,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,299,138584,70,0,B|183:259|183:259|228:244|228:244|244:199|279:184,1,178.125
308,260,138857,1,8,0:0:0:0:
95,25,138993,1,2,0:0:0:0:
308,260,139130,1,0,0:0:0:0:
471,107,139266,1,2,0:0:0:0:
471,107,139334,1,0,0:0:0:0:
471,107,139402,2,0,P|417:103|378:118,1,95,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
I'll mod more later, bed time now.
First suggest what you think could be improved that means use the times along with the reason why your suggestion this and how you think it should be changed. You have to allow the mapper to have the chance to see what you are suggesting not just giving them a code
Don't post anything complaining about the unrank its really not needed anymore
I have provided images and a download to the mod.LexiaLovesU wrote:
Yeah that's not modding that's you giving the mapper a code when the mapper doesn't even know what you changed
First suggest what you think could be improved that means use the times along with the reason why your suggestion this and how you think it should be changed. You have to allow the mapper to have the chance to see what you are suggesting not just giving them a code
Don't post anything complaining about the unrank its really not needed anymore
Hopefully it isn't to hard checking things in game quickly and remove it.
The .osz file automatically opens my mod and if they like the changes they just delete and replace a few codes, no work.
uuuh BNs who want to bubble/rank this map should at least know how to play this map or pass.
That will avoid future problems like this....
IMO, AR is not really a problem when you know how to read maps. They are many players who are shiting on maps because the AR is too slow.
I didn't really like playing this map because jumps are forced, i don't really feel anything funny when playing this map. But well it's just my opinion.
I'll mention some flaws, but that's just my opinion, don't consider them as the absolute truth.
I disabled hitsounds volume and listened to everything, there are too much density for what the song can provide. There are some 1/4 sliderjumps to emphasize strong vocals, but anything audible on blue ticks where the 1/4 slider ends.
Conclusion, This is overmapped.
Edit : I didn't say that i agree with that disqualification, There are too many maps like this which are ranked (i won't mention them), and i think people have overreacted on this map because "OH MY GOD 7 STARS, FREE PPS FOR RURUCHI SAMA"...
That will avoid future problems like this....
IMO, AR is not really a problem when you know how to read maps. They are many players who are shiting on maps because the AR is too slow.
I didn't really like playing this map because jumps are forced, i don't really feel anything funny when playing this map. But well it's just my opinion.
I'll mention some flaws, but that's just my opinion, don't consider them as the absolute truth.
- When i say that i don't feel anything funny, it's when you don't feel the real impact of the song, you have deliberately increased the difficulty, and added some extra triples which do not follow the song and make this diff even less funnier to play for example 00:23:084 (2,3,4) - or 00:26:970 (5) - etc., and some 1/4 slider jumps too 00:25:948 (5,6) - . Is it overmapping ? not really if you use them sparingly.
- 00:25:948 (5,6) - Here, i don't really know what you're following, you skip this note 01:20:902 - which is enough powerful, and i think a clap is supposed to be here too. Before adding more density, make sure that you follow the song first. If you don't do that, patterns can be easily confusing.
- 02:05:289 (2,3,4) - This map is not Mythologia's end, unsnapped things you can hear on the song don't mean "awh i'll map streams here", that's a theory which does not make sense.
- 02:14:220 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - rip.
I disabled hitsounds volume and listened to everything, there are too much density for what the song can provide. There are some 1/4 sliderjumps to emphasize strong vocals, but anything audible on blue ticks where the 1/4 slider ends.
Conclusion, This is overmapped.
Edit : I didn't say that i agree with that disqualification, There are too many maps like this which are ranked (i won't mention them), and i think people have overreacted on this map because "OH MY GOD 7 STARS, FREE PPS FOR RURUCHI SAMA"...
I honestly see no problem. BATS and QATs take their jobs too seriously... but I'm not the one to judge if I just want to enjoy a game
you should fix the intro ;w;Awaken wrote:
7.08
As a lot of people have pointed out, AR9.5 to 10 would be appropriate and fitting for this map, it should be up to the mapper's discretion. The patterns are easy and intuitive to read, even I can play this map somewhat until the spacing because too much for me to hit anything. And as for the most of the notes being on the right side of the screen, this just seem like something based on opinion; personally I like it better than perfect symmetry in a map.
Anyway there was a few things I wanted to point out about Gs Insane. My problem is that the 220 steams, especially when followed up by 1/2 notes, are way too hard compared to the rest of the map.
02:07:334 (7) - I think this circle should be deleted; if you listen carefully, there is no note on the fourth circle on the stream, so I think it should be a triple.
02:12:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I think this should be changed. Other people could give better advice, maybe use use sliders/repeat sliders instead?
Anyway there was a few things I wanted to point out about Gs Insane. My problem is that the 220 steams, especially when followed up by 1/2 notes, are way too hard compared to the rest of the map.
02:07:334 (7) - I think this circle should be deleted; if you listen carefully, there is no note on the fourth circle on the stream, so I think it should be a triple.
02:12:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I think this should be changed. Other people could give better advice, maybe use use sliders/repeat sliders instead?
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This map has been taken off of ranked so many times now, wtf :C
Second Gonkanau
00:10:539 (4,6) - Not perfectly stacked
00:35:220 (1) - I'd remove the whistles. It covers entirely the actual sound of this part.
00:43:948 (2) - I Believe that this is how this part should be mapped: http://puu.sh/gk35X/8070978374.jpg You skip 3 beats that contribute to the rhythm of the song by adding a slider here.
00:51:039 (3,1) - These should be unstacked . The beat changes here: 00:51:311 - and it doesn't indicate a stack with : 00:51:039 - , and this also messed up the NCing. Will require a small remapping here.
00:51:039 (3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -as i said before. NCing here is doesn't match with the rhythm imo . Try starting the NC here: 00:51:039 - and change every 2 notes as you did.Will require some remapping.
00:53:220 (1) - also remove the NC here. unnecessary
01:28:811 - Why skip the beat here? o.O
01:51:039 (3,4,5,1) - This is too much of an . on this bpm and speed its breaking the flow too much .
02:07:334 (4) - Also agree on removing this.
02:13:130 (1) - I believe this should be changed to 1/2 slider + note , like this: http://puu.sh/gk4xz/74801e3f81.jpg Don't forget the clap on slider tail.
02:16:675 - At this point the spacing is increasing incredibly until: 02:18:311 without an obvious reason apart from the "Stars" increase. Song sound the same as before. no volume increase, nothing strong making a hard change. anything
02:22:402 (1,2,3,4) - This is not appealing at all. no symmetry or anything , doesn't make sense :S
02:50:220 (1) - This should be extended to 02:50:902 - and a beat should be added here: 02:51:039 - . It fits the the rhythm very much. also add Clap @ 02:51:039 -
03:03:720 (6) - I believe this should be higher to improve the flow on 03:03:857 (1) - coz of the angle it has.
These are my 2 cents.
00:10:539 (4,6) - Not perfectly stacked
00:35:220 (1) - I'd remove the whistles. It covers entirely the actual sound of this part.
00:43:948 (2) - I Believe that this is how this part should be mapped: http://puu.sh/gk35X/8070978374.jpg You skip 3 beats that contribute to the rhythm of the song by adding a slider here.
00:51:039 (3,1) - These should be unstacked . The beat changes here: 00:51:311 - and it doesn't indicate a stack with : 00:51:039 - , and this also messed up the NCing. Will require a small remapping here.
00:51:039 (3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -as i said before. NCing here is doesn't match with the rhythm imo . Try starting the NC here: 00:51:039 - and change every 2 notes as you did.Will require some remapping.
00:53:220 (1) - also remove the NC here. unnecessary
01:28:811 - Why skip the beat here? o.O
01:51:039 (3,4,5,1) - This is too much of an . on this bpm and speed its breaking the flow too much .
02:07:334 (4) - Also agree on removing this.
02:13:130 (1) - I believe this should be changed to 1/2 slider + note , like this: http://puu.sh/gk4xz/74801e3f81.jpg Don't forget the clap on slider tail.
02:16:675 - At this point the spacing is increasing incredibly until: 02:18:311 without an obvious reason apart from the "Stars" increase. Song sound the same as before. no volume increase, nothing strong making a hard change. anything
02:22:402 (1,2,3,4) - This is not appealing at all. no symmetry or anything , doesn't make sense :S
02:50:220 (1) - This should be extended to 02:50:902 - and a beat should be added here: 02:51:039 - . It fits the the rhythm very much. also add Clap @ 02:51:039 -
03:03:720 (6) - I believe this should be higher to improve the flow on 03:03:857 (1) - coz of the angle it has.
These are my 2 cents.
uhg fine, expect testplays and a mod from me, selfreminder
something
AR: Tested all from 9.5 to 10. 9.8 felt the most natural of them all. 9.9 may as well be 10 and 10 seems unnecessary.
OD: 9. See no reason for this to be below that considering difficulty of map. Already done.
00:15:311 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Slightly awkward throughout.
00:18:039 (1,2,3,4) - What is this supposed to be? (1) > awkward triangle (2,3,4)? Can be improved.
00:53:493 (1) - Something like http://puu.sh/gkiul/309a4f8675.png ?
00:57:720 (3) - Closer to (2) pls.
01:55:675 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Preferred old pattern with triplet > triplet > stream. If not, extreme spacing not required.
02:03:039 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - So awkward.
02:08:902 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - One of the patterns that I feel just doesn't work with this AR and is helped greatly by 9.8. Could potentially move 02:08:902 (2) - to the right, stack 02:09:039 (3) - with 02:09:448 (6,7,8) - and move 02:09:720 (9) - up?
02:22:402 (1,2,3,4) - Change again. These don't work as well as previous locations used.
End is fine.
00:15:311 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Slightly awkward throughout.
00:18:039 (1,2,3,4) - What is this supposed to be? (1) > awkward triangle (2,3,4)? Can be improved.
00:53:493 (1) - Something like http://puu.sh/gkiul/309a4f8675.png ?
00:57:720 (3) - Closer to (2) pls.
01:55:675 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Preferred old pattern with triplet > triplet > stream. If not, extreme spacing not required.
02:03:039 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - So awkward.
02:08:902 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - One of the patterns that I feel just doesn't work with this AR and is helped greatly by 9.8. Could potentially move 02:08:902 (2) - to the right, stack 02:09:039 (3) - with 02:09:448 (6,7,8) - and move 02:09:720 (9) - up?
02:22:402 (1,2,3,4) - Change again. These don't work as well as previous locations used.
End is fine.
LexiaLovesU wrote:
Yeah that's not modding that's you giving the mapper a code when the mapper doesn't even know what you changed
First suggest what you think could be improved that means use the times along with the reason why your suggestion this and how you think it should be changed. You have to allow the mapper to have the chance to see what you are suggesting not just giving them a code
Don't post anything complaining about the unrank its really not needed anymore
i want it ranked again man
nvm i thought u were talking about me rip
Topic Starter
ok finally I decide to give this map AR9.6, there won't be much gap between which and previous version (AR9.5).
And someone who thinks 9.5 too low should be able to feel more comfortable now.
Talk with me in-game if you still feel it's not fit enough now and have any other great idea
I'll reply mods later and try my best to re-requalify this map soon, thank you guys for supporting!
And someone who thinks 9.5 too low should be able to feel more comfortable now.
Talk with me in-game if you still feel it's not fit enough now and have any other great idea
I'll reply mods later and try my best to re-requalify this map soon, thank you guys for supporting!