Ken Nakagawa - Welcome to the Workshop! [Osu|OsuMania|Taiko] · forum

Avishay

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-02-27T12:01:23+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:
Hi~~ mod requested from:
[A's Insane]

00:18:713 (2) - why? 00:18:263 (1,2,1) - is the same pattern as 00:15:863 (1,2,3) - Because there are 1/8 notes.. Delete this note and listen to the music using 25% Playback Rate
01:31:013 (1) - delete for consistency with 01:31:763 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - (is up to you) Removed and rearranged pattern a bit.
Good Luck *-*/

liaoxingyao wrote:
Hi From 贴吧

[A's Insane]
OD8? I agree that OD7 is low, but OD8 is a bit too high, changed to OD7.7
00:18:725 (2) - 01:44:225 (2) - 01:44:675 (3) - 01:45:575 (6) - 01:46:775 (9) - 01:49:025 (2,3) - Why 1/8? Because there are 1/8 notes there, and I felt they fit there.

Thank you for the mods!

A's Insane

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Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
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ArtistUnicode:中河 健
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liaoxingyao

864 posts

Joined November 2013

liaoxingyao 2015-02-27T12:32:34+00:00

schwarzvgrune wrote:
贴吧是我朋友告诉的，他说可以在那边打广告。如果你也需要mod可以发给我信息，我肯定给你mod :3

好啊好啊111

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-02-27T15:05:35+00:00

GD update

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Fixed some inconsistencies + added one layer
Diff is now 2.44

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-02-27T17:55:22+00:00

all diffs updated, lenfried are you sure thats updated? i pasted that and its still 2.11
and you forgot to snap your timing, it should be 75 75 75 instead of 63 63 63

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-02-27T18:20:02+00:00

Lazer wrote:
ByBy_ChAn wrote:
Lazer's Normal
00:01:463(1)- imo the sound from slider's tail is inaudible and unclickable . Same as above at 00:03:263- 00:03:863- 00:04:763- 00:05:663- etc ~~ Any way I can keep the hitsounds and fix this?

Yes just raise a little bit the volume and keep the hitsounds o3o

@Lenfried- I like your ava >3<

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2015-02-27T18:56:33+00:00

o/

You asked for a short testplay

Insane: Sightread Score | Sightread Replay

Most noticeable:
■ You probably want to ask someone for a NC mod
■ 00:14:225 (1,2) - possible to read, but the music it's on is really damn quiet.
■ 01:44:225 (1,2) - There is no streams/repeatable sound here. Same goes for the following few
■ 01:51:875 (4) - should have a note here

and in general, you use lots and lots of random speedup/slowdowns that can really only be read by reading the Approach Circle or knowing the Map. (Examples: 00:25:175 (6,1,2) - 00:33:875 (6,7,1) - 00:39:575 (1,2,3) - 00:44:225 (2,3,4) - ) Usually (this means stuff like Jumps or special patterns excluded) you'd want to have the spacing represent the time between notes.

Hard: Sightread Score | Sightread Replay

Most noticeable:
■ 00:07:475 (2,3) - Space these less. The player wont expect this much spacing for a 1/4 gap
■ 00:18:875 (2,3,4) - unstack would be better, since pretty much all of your circles are unstacked
■ 00:24:875 (1,2) - avoid pixel-touches like this everywhere possible. It just looks ugly and moving them by a few pixels wont hurt
■ 00:26:375 (4,5) - ^, another example

Normal: Sightread Score | Sightread Replay

Most noticeable:
■ I think you should lower the SV a bit here. You use 1.6 SV and 0.7 standard spacing. Maybe turn it down to 1.45 SV with around 0.8 or 0.9 standard spacing
■ Same pixel-touch thing here
■Some objects looks like they're further apart than they should be. If you use 1.0 for most of you objects, make sure that EVERY object has 1.0 spacing (I think that's 0.7 spacing in your case)
■ 00:02:975 (4) - Why is there a note placed here? Neither Hard nor Insane has this one mapped, so it feels kinda off having it there
■ 00:21:275 (2,3,4,1) - This is kinda boring, add some variation

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-02-28T04:13:55+00:00

schwarzvgrune wrote:
all diffs updated, lenfried are you sure thats updated? i pasted that and its still 2.11
and you forgot to snap your timing, it should be 75 75 75 instead of 63 63 63

Oh :/
I'll check again
oss is being clunky now.

That's a 77 note difference. A significant amount of notes but no star rating change? :/
Timing snap? Is that the distance snap or something else. Instuctions say that I have to press alt + mousewheel but the scroll of my mouse is broken. (or rather the charter acting like crap when I'm not using parallels)
Just reposting the same update but there might still be no change

D:

osu file format v14

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Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
Version:Lenfried's 7K Hard
Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
Tags:Daisuke Achiwa Avishay Nardoxyribonucleic Lazer ikin5050 Amefurashi-
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wagara

20 posts

Joined December 2013

wagara 2015-02-28T07:59:28+00:00

こんにちは＾＾
日本語ですみません＞＜
modおそくなってすみません；Д；

|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|

7k EZ

00:00:275 (275|4) - move |6|
00:28:775 (28775|6,29075|5) -

00:28:775 (28775|3,29075|2) - move
00:47:975 (47975|6,48275|5) -

00:47:975 (47975|3,48275|2) - ^
こっちの配置のほうが初心者に優しいと思います＾＾

01:51:575 - add note |5|
最後にここはもう一つ置いた方が見栄えがいいと私は思います＾＾

7k NM

00:17:675 - add note |4|
00:20:075 - ^ |2|
01:44:076 - ^ |4|
01:46:475 - ^ |2|
01:48:875 - ^ |4|
01:51:575 - ^ |4|

01:02:075 (62075|2) - move |1|
配置場所は例えです＾＾；
この配置のほうがプレイしていて楽しいと私は思います！＾ｗ＾

プレイしていてとても楽しい譜面でした＾＾
good luck!

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-02-28T10:19:43+00:00

wagara wrote:
こんにちは＾＾
日本語ですみません＞＜
modおそくなってすみません；Д；

|0|1|2|3|4|5|6|
7k EZ
00:00:275 (275|4) - move |6|
00:28:775 (28775|6,29075|5) - 00:28:775 (28775|3,29075|2) - move
00:47:975 (47975|6,48275|5) - 00:47:975 (47975|3,48275|2) - ^
こっちの配置のほうが初心者に優しいと思います＾＾

01:51:575 - add note |5|
最後にここはもう一つ置いた方が見栄えがいいと私は思います＾＾
7k NM
00:17:675 - add note |4|
00:20:075 - ^ |2|
01:44:076 - ^ |4|
01:46:475 - ^ |2|
01:48:875 - ^ |4|
01:51:575 - ^ |4|

01:02:075 (62075|2) - move |1|
配置場所は例えです＾＾；
この配置のほうがプレイしていて楽しいと私は思います！＾ｗ＾
プレイしていてとても楽しい譜面でした＾＾
good luck!

いえいえ、　なんでもないですよ！　私は日本語を勉強していますからね～～～～＞ｗ＜

実はテストプレイをしていることは結構ですよ～～～

modは本当に有難うございました～　

楽しい譜面ですか！？　私はとても嬉しいです！＞＿＜

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-02-28T10:26:50+00:00

Yauxo wrote:
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You asked for a short testplay

Insane: Sightread Score | Sightread Replay

Most noticeable:
■ You probably want to ask someone for a NC mod
■ 00:14:225 (1,2) - possible to read, but the music it's on is really damn quiet.
■ 01:44:225 (1,2) - There is no streams/repeatable sound here. Same goes for the following few
■ 01:51:875 (4) - should have a note here I wanted to follow the ringing sounds only.

and in general, you use lots and lots of random speedup/slowdowns that can really only be read by reading the Approach Circle or knowing the Map. (Examples: 00:25:175 (6,1,2) - 00:33:875 (6,7,1) - 00:39:575 (1,2,3) - 00:44:225 (2,3,4) - ) Usually (this means stuff like Jumps or special patterns excluded) you'd want to have the spacing represent the time between notes.

I've redone some patterns and NCs as well, changed the 1/8 part in the end.

Thanks!

A's Insane

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Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
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Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
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Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
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PANDAAAAAAAA

745 posts

Joined September 2012

PANDAAAAAAAA 2015-02-28T10:54:07+00:00

GD

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nowsmart's 5K Normal

http://puu.sh/ggbmC/1b06f3dffb.txt

nowsmart's 5K Hard

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Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-02-28T15:10:21+00:00

Hard

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You can use a different distance spacing in a different section of a normal r-right?... Please tell me I'm right or I'm gonna have to re-arrange the whole diff

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-02-28T15:48:51+00:00

Lazer wrote:

Hard

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You can use a different distance spacing in a different section of a normal r-right?... Please tell me I'm right or I'm gonna have to re-arrange the whole diff

Usually you'd want the whole diff using the same DS value, but maybe alternate between 0.05x more or less, so yeah..

Last edited by Avishay 2015-02-28T20:05:11+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Yauxo

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Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2015-02-28T18:21:00+00:00

Lazer wrote:
You can use a different distance spacing in a different section of a normal r-right?... Please tell me I'm right or I'm gonna have to re-arrange the whole diff

- Minor differences like 0.98 -> 1.03 (griderror) are totally fine
- Changing the spacing for special parts (like the Kiai) via a SV change is ... kinda okay. Accpeted by some, rejected by others. As long as it wont be more than around +0.20 SV. Only use it on really big changes/spikes in the song
- For same-sounding parts you absolutely have to use the same DS consistently.

schwarzvgrune

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Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-02-28T18:53:57+00:00

al updated, thanks yauxo :3

ikin5050

583 posts

Joined February 2014

ikin5050 2015-03-01T10:04:11+00:00

Oooh getting exciting as i found this map on the first page of pending

schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-01T10:05:57+00:00

ikin5050 wrote:
Oooh getting exciting as i found this map on the first page of pending

IDK if the BN will notice this though ._.

in the meantime i'll be waiting for lenfrieds map.

JudgeTheDude

595 posts

Joined September 2011

JudgeTheDude 2015-03-01T23:43:32+00:00

Hi, from my queue.
Pretty short mod, it's well mapped and I didn't find much things.

Checked your Taiko diffs

[Muzu]

00:11:075 (19) - Change the d for a k
00:24:575 - Feels like it misses something, add a note ?
01:32:675 (199) - Change the d for a k

That's all I could find, great maps ! Good luck for ranking !

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-02T07:43:57+00:00

And again, I uploaded the wrong file

But to save your time retiming things I took the updated ver and transferred the notes manually.
This is it:
Added a few more notes

sdasd

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 61475
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Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
Version:Lenfried's 7K Hard
Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
Tags:Daisuke Achiwa Avishay Nardoxyribonucleic Lazer ikin5050 Amefurashi-
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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-03-02T08:14:44+00:00

JudgeTheDude wrote:
Hi, from my queue.
Pretty short mod, it's well mapped and I didn't find much things.

Checked your Taiko diffs

[Muzu]
00:11:075 (19) - Change the d for a k I would prefer using monotone triplets only for the sake of simplicity.
00:24:575 - Feels like it misses something, add a note ? no change here for break consistency as 00:22:175 -
01:32:675 (199) - Change the d for a k same as 00:11:075 (19) -

That's all I could find, great maps ! Good luck for ranking !

Thanks for your mod~

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-02T11:14:42+00:00

Comments and testplay by Shitsurei for STD NM HD INS

@Lazer @Avishay pls read and maybe if you think you agree you might want to edit something?

SPOILER

18:43 *Setsurei is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/581099 Nakagawa Ken - Welcome to the Workshop!]
18:45 schwarzvgrune: how did you know i'm online ingame o.o
18:45 Setsurei: I was searching your name on the filter lol
18:45 schwarzvgrune: how do you do that
18:45 Setsurei: after you've sent me a PM
18:45 schwarzvgrune: oh filter
18:46 Setsurei: there's a search field
18:46 schwarzvgrune: oh!!
18:46 Setsurei: below the filter
18:46 schwarzvgrune: eyes
18:46 schwarzvgrune: yes
18:46 Setsurei: lol
18:46 schwarzvgrune: never used that didnt realise we can do that XD
18:46 schwarzvgrune: is it open for test play?
18:46 Setsurei: yep
18:46 schwarzvgrune: which would entails posting a general comment
18:46 schwarzvgrune: on the thread
18:46 schwarzvgrune: if you could >_<
18:46 Setsurei: I can play std, a bit of o!m tho
18:46 schwarzvgrune: sure
18:46 schwarzvgrune: any modes that you can play
18:52 schwarzvgrune: do you know how to copy our chatlog from the game?
18:52 schwarzvgrune: i can post this to the thread
18:52 schwarzvgrune: what do you think about the std diffs
18:52 schwarzvgrune: would you mind testplaying mania too?
18:54 Setsurei: use /savelog if you want to save the chats
18:54 Setsurei: it will be as text files
18:54 schwarzvgrune: oh i see
18:54 schwarzvgrune: okay thanks <3
18:55 schwarzvgrune: umm what do you think about the STD diffs
18:55 Setsurei: you need more mods, since there are some parts that are not suitable for jumps
18:55 schwarzvgrune: which diffs?
18:57 Setsurei: both hard and insane
18:58 schwarzvgrune: !
18:58 schwarzvgrune: 我剛發現原來看得懂漢字啊？
18:58 Setsurei: 一点点
18:59 schwarzvgrune: 好的用英語繼續吧 XD
18:59 schwarzvgrune: Is there any grave issues that you think still persist for STD?
19:00 schwarzvgrune: other than some unsuitable parts here and there (for jumps)
19:00 Setsurei: for normal diff
19:00 Setsurei: it is bad to use 1/4
19:00 Setsurei: eventhough the beat is at 1/4
19:01 schwarzvgrune: its too difficult if 1/4 is used?
19:01 Setsurei: yes, 1/4 are used for Hard+
19:01 Setsurei: Hard itself also rare to use 1/4
19:01 schwarzvgrune: any suggestions to improve on those 1/4?
19:01 schwarzvgrune: what should we do if the beat is 1/4 but we can't use that for STD?
19:03 Setsurei: its not that you can't use it, but the tips is by using some repeat slider or so
19:03 Setsurei: or just ignore the 1/4
19:03 schwarzvgrune: i see
19:03 schwarzvgrune: okay thanks for your help >3
19:03 Setsurei: 00:07:925 - example this part
19:03 *Setsurei is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/614485 Nakagawa Ken - Welcome to the Workshop! [Lazer's Normal]]
19:03 Setsurei: ignore the blue, and start 00:08:075 -
19:03 schwarzvgrune: i see
19:03 Setsurei: also
19:04 Setsurei: some objects are too rigid
19:04 Setsurei: the flow is kinda bad
19:04 schwarzvgrune: `for NM?
19:04 schwarzvgrune: or HD and INS?
19:05 Setsurei: all
19:06 Setsurei: btw insane is kinda overmapped
19:06 Setsurei: 00:14:525 (2,3) -
19:07 schwarzvgrune: you mean that part is too difficult for insane?
19:07 schwarzvgrune: i see
19:07 schwarzvgrune: do you have any recommendation to fix or mitigate those issues?
19:07 Setsurei: not difficult, but unecessary beat
19:08 schwarzvgrune: i see
19:08 schwarzvgrune: but it does follow the song, no?
19:08 Setsurei: no
19:08 schwarzvgrune: i see!
19:08 Setsurei: that's why it's overmapped
19:09 schwarzvgrune: en en!!
19:10 schwarzvgrune: any other glaring issues?
19:10 Setsurei: well not that much, but need more mods
19:10 Setsurei: still need to improve the flow
19:11 schwarzvgrune: especially for the flow is it?
19:11 schwarzvgrune: i see !
19:12 schwarzvgrune: do you have any other further comments?
19:12 Setsurei: I think no
19:12 Setsurei: lol
19:12 schwarzvgrune: okay thanks for your testplay and comments i really appreciate it >_<

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-02T12:45:24+00:00

Recieved your PM grun. Rly!? Still 2.11!? I mean, I processed and finished the beatmap this time in a windows machine in some internet cafe and the rating was labeled as 2.46 stars. Welp, looks like there really is some issues now with star rating ever since VERSE IV (Ichigaki map)

Edit: Cheked BSS Submission (page 1 of this thread). The star rating is now labeled as 2.46.

FlobuFlobs

575 posts

Joined June 2011

FlobuFlobs 2015-03-02T13:18:09+00:00

Well you asked for it xD
short testplay with some comments

[General]

This song doesnt need a insane at all, its slow and calm, a E - N - H set would be enough

[Normal]

00:15:875 - This drastic sv change from 1 -> 1.4 is way too much, it plays horrible and unnatural, many normal player will missread them
00:23:675 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - way too many single tap circles in a row, reduce them
00:35:075 (1,2,3) - avoid overlapping in a normal
1. Spacing issues
2. 00:31:925 (4) - noticeable wrong spacing
3. 00:54:725 (7) - again spacing issue
4. 01:08:075 (2) -
5. 01:23:075 (1) -
6. 01:24:275 (2) -
7. 01:26:375 (1) -
8. 01:27:875 (1) -
9. 01:29:525 (1) -
10. 01:32:375 (5) -
11. 01:43:775 (3) -
12. 01:46:175 (3) -
  and many more, you have to keep them consistent
01:44:675 (1,2) - 01:47:075 (1,2) - adding these 3/4 slider at the end doesnt fit at all and 1/4 shouldnt used anyway in a normal

[Insane]

00:29:675 (5,6,7) - IF you have to silence out objects, it means it doesnt fit at all and so you dont have to use them, change pattern
extremly weird rhythm 00:01:775 (2,3) - here you follow the background but then 00:06:725 - here are you ignoring it 00:13:925 - here too and many more
00:28:775 (1) - are you following the main intrument now or not 00:29:075 - suddenly here again
00:44:075 (1,2,3) - way too much spacing compared to the rest of the map
00:26:375 - 00:26:525 - these both beat should be clickable otherwise is confusing while playing
01:12:425 (6) - ?
01:22:925 (4) - you should jump in the opposite direction, this is bad flow atm
01:32:975 (4) - missing nc

[Hard]

First big thing i saw were these inregular spacing at the triples 00:02:375 (2,3,4) - 00:04:025 (2,3,4) - 00:08:675 (1,2,3) - 00:13:175 (1,2) - 00:20:675 (1,2,3) - and many more,
Keep the spacing constant!
00:21:875 (5,6,1,2,1) - Plays horrible, theres no reason why you should do such a reverse pattern
00:22:475 (1,2) - main instrument gets ignored
00:26:375 (4) - ^

Mania 4k Diffs are really nice, even though the start on Hard is a bit fast

every std diff still need alot of work in current state

you can pn me if you got 10 more mods for a full mod

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-02T15:00:35+00:00

FlobuFlobs wrote:
Well you asked for it xD
short testplay with some comments

[General]
This song doesnt need a insane at all, its slow and calm, a E - N - H set would be enough It's not a rule, I can give you some examples for maps with calm songs that have an Insane or a higher difficulty

00:29:675 (5,6,7) - IF you have to silence out objects, it means it doesnt fit at all and so you dont have to use them, change pattern They have really low notes in their end, I want to keep the sliders, but I don't want stronger end notes.
extremly weird rhythm 00:01:775 (2,3) - here you follow the background but then 00:06:725 - here are you ignoring it 00:13:925 - here too and many more Why am I obliged to follow all of them? Eitherway, I liked following just two more notes so I added a slider.
00:28:775 (1) - are you following the main intrument now or not 00:29:075 - suddenly here again I follow both ways, I used NC for that purpose.
00:44:075 (1,2,3) - way too much spacing compared to the rest of the map Reduced.
00:26:375 - 00:26:525 - these both beat should be clickable otherwise is confusing while playing Correct, changed.
01:12:425 (6) - ? !
01:22:925 (4) - you should jump in the opposite direction, this is bad flow atm Changed pattern a bit.
01:32:975 (4) - missing nc V

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As for Setsurei's comment, I did not overmap this part, he should listen to this part at 25% PBR again.

Thanks for the mods!

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-03-02T16:47:59+00:00

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ArtistUnicode:中河 健
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152,120,31475,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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I've fixed the distance snap... I'll look into the mods at another time, tired as heck

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-02T17:02:34+00:00

thanks all updated

Last edited by schwarzvgrune 2015-03-03T19:43:12+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

SPAS-ID

126 posts

Joined June 2014

SPAS-ID 2015-03-03T05:18:02+00:00

the 4K Hard was good tho but it seems the note doesnt match to the note

Kagu-chan

476 posts

Joined October 2012

Kagu-chan 2015-03-03T19:28:27+00:00

As requested by PM

On all Osu diffs i cant found anything real, but on hard i would say:

CS +1 or 2
Use constant distance snap. Its confusing with overlapping circles, then all circles in a row, than overlapping again... Without anything ive seen as reason for it.

Sorry :/
No KDS pls

Adinata28

551 posts

Joined March 2014

Adinata28 2015-03-04T11:39:47+00:00

Hai >.<)/
Mod from Moe Hunter Mania Queue
Key :
1|2|3|4|5|6|7

Woah, this map already have a tons of mods >.>
this is just my suggestion, i doubt if i found major issue :3

General

Seems Fine to me~

7K Easy

00:42:575 (42575|5,42875|4,43175|6,43475|1,43775|2,44075|0) - i feel awkward when you follow the rhytim in this part, meanwhile you just add an LN on this 00:32:675 (32675|4) -
01:44:075 (104075|4) - should end at 01:44:375 -
01:46:475 (106475|2) - should end at 01:46:775 -
01:48:875 (108875|4) - should end at 01:49:175 -
01:49:475 (109475|3) - should end at 01:49:775 -
^ those LN, i've already change it and test it. and i think its fit. if you applied those, make sure to change on the others diff too

7K Normal

00:15:875 (15875|5,15875|3,15875|0) - delete 1 note, consistency with 00:18:275 (18275|3,18275|1) - or maybe you can add 1 note on 00:18:275 (18275|3,18275|1) -
00:20:675 - Add note, i hear snare sound here
00:35:375 - Add note, clap sound
00:35:525 (35525|2) - delete. no need to use 1/4 here
00:36:575 - Add note, clap sound
00:37:775 - Add note, clap sound
00:49:775 - ^
and so on

7K Hard

Actually, there are so much sound on this song.
00:18:275 - Add a note here, consistency with 00:16:775 -
00:20:675 - Add a note ?
00:21:575 - Add a note, consistency.
00:44:675 - Add a note here ? for snare sound
00:48:125 (48125|2) - delete, no need to use 1/4 here
00:48:575 (48575|3) - if you followed the clap, then make this double note
00:49:775 (49775|4) - ^
00:52:175 (52175|3,52775|3,53375|3) - ^ , consistency
and so on.
01:25:475 - from here, i don't know, what you're following with that 1/4 sound ? :/
01:47:075 - Add a note. Consistency

Good Luck >.<)b

-Maruk-

322 posts

Joined December 2012

-Maruk- 2015-03-04T11:49:44+00:00

Hi~
request from my queue

[Nomal]

00:31:925 (4) - it's not rhythmically correct. try use this
img

[Hard]

00:19:025 (3) - Remove

[A's Insane]

01:51:875 (4) - add Circle

Good luck

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-04T11:54:45+00:00

Adinata28 wrote:
Hai >.<)/
Mod from Moe Hunter Mania Queue
Key :
1|2|3|4|5|6|7

Woah, this map already have a tons of mods >.>
this is just my suggestion, i doubt if i found major issue :3

General
Seems Fine to me~
7K Easy
00:42:575 (42575|5,42875|4,43175|6,43475|1,43775|2,44075|0) - i feel awkward when you follow the rhytim in this part, meanwhile you just add an LN on this 00:32:675 (32675|4) - this is to give variations on the map, because that is 2 different phase with the same exact pitch for the main guitar instrument. so i made variations by including the beat on the 2nd phase
01:44:075 (104075|4) - should end at 01:44:375 -
01:46:475 (106475|2) - should end at 01:46:775 -
01:48:875 (108875|4) - should end at 01:49:175 -
01:49:475 (109475|3) - should end at 01:49:775 -
strictly speaking LN should be 5/8
because its too weird i changed it to 3/4 (6/8) so no, this is fixed, for all diffs, both 7K and 4K,

^ those LN, i've already change it and test it. and i think its fit. if you applied those, make sure to change on the others diff too

7K Normal
00:15:875 (15875|5,15875|3,15875|0) - delete 1 note, consistency with 00:18:275 (18275|3,18275|1) - or maybe you can add 1 note on
umm, did you use view >> show sample names? i use pitched instrument across the whole beatmap. and that note is correct. note on 1 is for the pitched instrument, while the other SN is for beat and LN to follow the woodwind sound (which is also hitsounded with a pitched instrument)

00:18:275 (18275|3,18275|1) -
00:20:675 - Add note, i hear snare sound here added to 7 thanks.

00:35:375 - Add note, clap sound
00:35:525 (35525|2) - delete. no need to use 1/4 here
00:36:575 - Add note, clap sound
00:37:775 - Add note, clap sound
00:49:775 - ^
no to all. i use custom hitsound for the whole beatmap.
and also 1/4 there, the one in the middle are following the pitched guitar instrument while the 1st and 3rd are following the consistent 2/4 beat, so no.
and so on
7K Hard
Actually, there are so much sound on this song.
00:18:275 - Add a note here, consistency with 00:16:775 -
00:20:675 - Add a note ?
00:21:575 - Add a note, consistency.
00:44:675 - Add a note here ? for snare sound
00:48:125 (48125|2) - delete, no need to use 1/4 here
00:48:575 (48575|3) - if you followed the clap, then make this double note
00:49:775 (49775|4) - ^
00:52:175 (52175|3,52775|3,53375|3) - ^ , consistency
and so on.
01:25:475 - from here, i don't know, what you're following with that 1/4 sound ? :/
01:47:075 - Add a note. Consistency

Good Luck >.<)b

thanks for your mod, changes made to NM (adding 1 note）

Adinata28

551 posts

Joined March 2014

Adinata28 2015-03-04T14:13:55+00:00

Yeah, that was just some suggestion to your map [Mania].
I think, your mania mapset is already~ good enough.
I Like those custom HS, so take this star... owo
Good Luck, grune.

Kaito-kun

490 posts

Joined July 2014

Kaito-kun 2015-03-04T19:10:54+00:00

Overall, it's a pretty good map, nothing feels out of place, these are just some things I think can be changed. Take this in mind, I just played each difficulty once, so you can ask me for a more detailed look at it, but then it would be better to simply ask me for mod

.

I found no problem with the 7k and 4k Easy, in fact, it is very good as an easy diff. I found the 7k Normal a little bit unbalanced in terms of hands, I feel I use more the right hand more than the left, but it may be me, since I haven't done a throught check of the map, but other than that, it was good. The 4k Normal was pretty good too, just that you repeat a lot this pattern:
1 2 3 4
(13) 2 (13)
My opinion would be to keep the patterns, but changing the note placement of the double notes (like instead of (13) 2 (13), change it to (13) 4 (12) or something of the sort). The 7K hard was awesome, just that it would be good to separate more some of the LNs, since when 2 LNs are coming, there are mainly one besides the other, and I think it would be good to separate them a bit (same with the 7k Normal). The 4k Hard was very good.

Anyways, please tell me if I'm wrong at anything, since I want to learn from experience

. Also, good luck with the beatmap.

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-05T02:17:29+00:00

Weird I can't DL the map

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-05T02:39:04+00:00

Adinata28 wrote:
Hai >.<)/
Mod from Moe Hunter Mania Queue
Key :
1|2|3|4|5|6|7

Woah, this map already have a tons of mods >.>
this is just my suggestion, i doubt if i found major issue :3

7K Hard
Actually, there are so much sound on this song.
00:18:275 - Add a note here, consistency with 00:16:775 - not consistent, If you notced, only 1/2 snaps (red line) have 3 notes
00:20:675 - Add a note ? ^
00:21:575 - Add a note, consistency. oh yes
00:44:675 - Add a note here ? for snare sound sure will break consistency for snare. Also rearranged notes below
00:48:125 (48125|2) - delete, no need to use 1/4 here ok
00:48:575 (48575|3) - if you followed the clap, then make this double note four notes are a no-no
00:49:775 (49775|4) - ^ ^
00:52:175 (52175|3,52775|3,53375|3) - ^ , consistency ^
and so on.
01:25:475 - from here, i don't know, what you're following with that 1/4 sound ? :/ same sound exists in first part but very faint. Killing it is practical, yeah, but it is very unfitting to lower difficulty at this point imo. Good thing by checking it I noticed a difference from the first similar sound set.
01:47:075 - Add a note. Consistency oh wow thanks

Good Luck >.<)b

thx

wooooo

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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schwarzvgrune

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schwarzvgrune 2015-03-05T07:27:53+00:00

thanks all updated

thanks for tester

schwarzvgrune

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schwarzvgrune 2015-03-05T07:33:51+00:00

KaitoKid1998 wrote:
Overall, it's a pretty good map, nothing feels out of place, these are just some things I think can be changed. Take this in mind, I just played each difficulty once, so you can ask me for a more detailed look at it, but then it would be better to simply ask me for mod .

I found no problem with the 7k and 4k Easy, in fact, it is very good as an easy diff. I found the 7k Normal a little bit unbalanced in terms of hands, I feel I use more the right hand more than the left, but it may be me, since I haven't done a throught check of the map, but other than that, it was good. The 4k Normal was pretty good too, just that you repeat a lot this pattern:
1 2 3 4
(13) 2 (13)
My opinion would be to keep the patterns, but changing the note placement of the double notes (like instead of (13) 2 (13), change it to (13) 4 (12) or something of the sort). The 7K hard was awesome, just that it would be good to separate more some of the LNs, since when 2 LNs are coming, there are mainly one besides the other, and I think it would be good to separate them a bit (same with the 7k Normal). The 4k Hard was very good.

Anyways, please tell me if I'm wrong at anything, since I want to learn from experience . Also, good luck with the beatmap.

hi now that you pointed that out i do notice that. i've made considerable adjustment to make it more balanced.
about the pattern, i don't find any issues with that, pitch relevancy takes precedence over pattern variation on my map. so as long as its hand balanced, has a pattern, its fine for me as long as pitch is relevant. i dont see the need to tweak the pattern to make it varied while compromising on the pitch relevancy side of the map.

you actually noticed that! thank you, i'll give you kudosu for this because i made considerable changes to NM on note placing

lenpai

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lenpai 2015-03-05T07:49:39+00:00

KaitoKid1998 wrote:
Overall, it's a pretty good map, nothing feels out of place, these are just some things I think can be changed. Take this in mind, I just played each difficulty once, so you can ask me for a more detailed look at it, but then it would be better to simply ask me for mod .

I found no problem with the 7k and 4k Easy, in fact, it is very good as an easy diff. I found the 7k Normal a little bit unbalanced in terms of hands, I feel I use more the right hand more than the left, but it may be me, since I haven't done a throught check of the map, but other than that, it was good. The 4k Normal was pretty good too, just that you repeat a lot this pattern:
1 2 3 4
(13) 2 (13)
My opinion would be to keep the patterns, but changing the note placement of the double notes (like instead of (13) 2 (13), change it to (13) 4 (12) or something of the sort). The 7K hard was awesome, just that it would be good to separate more some of the LNs, since when 2 LNs are coming, there are mainly one besides the other, and I think it would be good to separate them a bit (same with the 7k Normal). The 4k Hard was very good.

Anyways, please tell me if I'm wrong at anything, since I want to learn from experience . Also, good luck with the beatmap.

Oh, Ln placement issues. I would need help (mods or detailed mods) in this as I do not have a problem playing these lns ;;

schwarzvgrune

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schwarzvgrune 2015-03-05T07:51:02+00:00

Lenfried- wrote:
KaitoKid1998 wrote:
Overall, it's a pretty good map, nothing feels out of place, these are just some things I think can be changed. Take this in mind, I just played each difficulty once, so you can ask me for a more detailed look at it, but then it would be better to simply ask me for mod .

I found no problem with the 7k and 4k Easy, in fact, it is very good as an easy diff. I found the 7k Normal a little bit unbalanced in terms of hands, I feel I use more the right hand more than the left, but it may be me, since I haven't done a throught check of the map, but other than that, it was good. The 4k Normal was pretty good too, just that you repeat a lot this pattern:
1 2 3 4
(13) 2 (13)
My opinion would be to keep the patterns, but changing the note placement of the double notes (like instead of (13) 2 (13), change it to (13) 4 (12) or something of the sort). The 7K hard was awesome, just that it would be good to separate more some of the LNs, since when 2 LNs are coming, there are mainly one besides the other, and I think it would be good to separate them a bit (same with the 7k Normal). The 4k Hard was very good.

Anyways, please tell me if I'm wrong at anything, since I want to learn from experience . Also, good luck with the beatmap.
Oh, Ln placement issues. I would need help (mods or detailed mods) in this as I do not have a problem playing these lns ;;

cuz u're too pro ;w;

shionelove

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shionelove 2015-03-05T09:15:27+00:00

from M4M
column 1234 1234567
for all diffs:01:51:875 - add some

[4K Hard]
00:11:375 (11375|0) - delete
00:35:825 - add 2
00:50:675 (50675|1,51275|3,51575|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2851043
[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:06:275 (6275|2) - to 00:07:925 (7925|2) - add some notes like 00:01:475 (1475|1,1625|0,1775|1,2225|1,2375|0) -
00:31:475 (31475|0) - until 00:31:925 ?
00:35:075 (35075|3) - ^
00:37:475 (37475|1) - ^
00:52:175 (52175|3,52775|3,53375|3) - add some notes
01:21:575 (81575|4,82175|5) - add some drums

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