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LordRaika
No no its fine ^^
Yes you can keep different naming per key.... This is totally rankable....

And Starry is just being detail ^^ he isdoing good jobthere by being strict...
Anyway, ive already check the status before bubble....

I can see its fine so i let it pass! Im sure its intentional....
Furthermore, now the mapper give a reasoning...
I agree on starry's concern and agree on the mappers reasoning....

So here is my decision...., just let it stay the same, ^^
Ive seen looots of 7+1K with high OD , very high thou...
And yea, most 7+1 rarely use LN so its fine....

^^
Kamikaze
I don't see much of a problem in renaming 4ks to Normal/Hyper/Another to be honest, it will just make this set look better
Topic Starter
dosyeru
yeah it's not big deal, i was just curious.
let's wait starry's reply and general check anyway.
-LASU-

Harbyter wrote:

uhmm LASU sorry for that first vocal lol
Please don't mind it ;)

Starry- wrote:

Ok I'm glad the 4K is looking better now.
I just want to say 1 more thing about it.

mod
4K NM
00:04:870 (4870|3) - Move to 1
00:05:670 (5670|1) - Move to 3
00:08:070 (8070|3) - Move to 2
00:08:470 (8470|2) - Move to 3
00:08:870 (8870|0) - Move to 1
00:09:270 (9270|1) - Move to 0
00:09:670 (9670|0) - Move to 1

all done
These parts aren't really snare patterns if they have a chime hitsound, I don't really see why they shouldn't be pitch relevant.
Look at 8K Normal, it does this pitch thing really well.

4K MX:
02:08:870 (128870|0) - No reason to catch this LN
02:10:270 (130270|2) - ^, so many different pitches, best to just remove and spread out normal notes.


This isn't really a style, it just doesn't make sense.
02:08:870 (128870|0) - This LN, the vocal starts at 02:08:670 (128670) - , so there's no reason for it ok

02:10:270 (130270|2) - This LN has different pitch vocals, it makes no sense for a single LN. You can do something like this instead change
[Ex.1]02:10:070 (130070|3) - start ok
One last thing - rename 4K diffs to 'Normal, Hyper, Another' to be consistent with the 8K diffs, otherwise it makes no sense.

I'll come back for 1 last general / hitsound check too.
Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated
Starry-

dosyeru wrote:

this statement makes me feel safe to change my diff names, but let me ask another question.
Is it necessary to keep consistency in diff names of different ''gamemodes''?
Guidelines say
Different key amounts within a mapset must be treated as different gamemodes and require an respective independent difficulty spread. Therefore each key amount must have an independent difficulty spread. For example if you want to add a 7K difficulty to your set, you must design a whole 7K spread. If you want to add an additional 4k difficulty to your set, you must also design a whole 4K spread.
the logic why i had to prepare whole 4K map-set is that 4K and 7+1K are treated as different game modes like any other multi-gamemodes map-set.
If so, then, i think mappers are free to give consistent name to each key-set like any other multi-gamemodes map-set.

what do think about my question?
That quote is mainly in relation to difficulty spreads, not particularly their name.
For example, it wouldn't make sense to have a map with 4 diffs, 2 diffs say 4K NM, 4K HD, whilst the others say 7K ADVANCED, 7K EXHAUST. It just doesn't make sense, and it'll be a lot better to just change the names to be consistent.

Thank you -LASU- for fixing the 4K, I'm a lot more confident with this now.

[8K Another]
00:04:270 (4270|2,4370|4) - whistles in places like this? Better to add here then too 00:20:270 (20270|3,20370|3,20670|5,20770|5) - , 00:23:470 (23470|2,23570|2,23870|6,23970|6) - , 00:26:670 (26670|3,26770|3,27070|5,27170|5) - , 00:29:970 (29970|2,30370|6) - , 00:33:070 (33070|5,33170|6,33470|5,33570|4) - etc.

00:31:270 (31270|0) - Intentionally this quiet?

00:41:670 (41670|4) - How about add at 0, then move cymbal noise to there, makes a lot more sense.

01:29:170 (89170|0) - This hitsound doesn't fit here imo.

01:49:670 (109670|6) - Add kick or another snare

[8K Hyper]
00:03:670 (3670|3,4470|1,5270|3,6070|7,6870|6,7670|1,8470|6,9270|7) - All of these should be snare sound instead, works well like on Another diff.
Do this for rest of the map, too. Kick-Snare works better than just Kick-Kick, to be consistent with the other diff.
00:09:170 (9170|3) - Add kick

00:18:470 (18470|6,18870|7) - Why these finishes? There's 0 column for that.

There's a lot more consistency issues with other difficulties here...

For hitsounding, I suggest you should:
  1. Open -> Diff you want to hitsound (eg. 8K Hyper)
  2. Open difficulty -> For Reference -> choose 8K Another
  3. View -> Show Sample Name
This is really helpful since it lets you be more consistent with your hitsounds, I've noticed that there's quite a lot of inconsistencies between 8K Another and Hyper, so it's best you try this, and catch anything you find.
I'll come back when you update.

Thanks! Sorry for so much work to do, eventually this'll get rebubbled ;s
Just remember, you're making this map for the players, not for yourself considering you want it ranked. It'll take a bit longer yes, but the outcome is a lot better.
Call me back when you've fixed some of the inconsistencies so I can check further.
Topic Starter
dosyeru
i will change diff name as i said in previous post, but i need to consult with lasu to decide which keyset to change.
diff name will be updated later.

[8K Another]
00:33:070 (33070|5,33170|6,33470|5,33570|4) - etc.
added whistle on where notes are seemingly obvious to follow SFX. no change in whistle on stair notes. it somehow uncomfortable to play for me.
00:31:270 (31270|0) - Intentionally this quiet? yes this is not error
01:29:170 (89170|0) - This hitsound doesn't fit here imo.
similar sounds in music. better than other alternative hitsounds
01:49:670 (109670|6) - Add kick or another snare
removed duplicated snare.wav from later notes. sry that was error.

For hitsounding, I suggest you should:
  1. Open -> Diff you want to hitsound (eg. 8K Hyper)
  2. Open difficulty -> For Reference -> choose 8K Another
  3. View -> Show Sample Name
This is really helpful since it lets you be more consistent with your hitsounds, I've noticed that there's quite a lot of inconsistencies between 8K Another and Hyper, so it's best you try this, and catch anything you find.
that feature doesnt function on my computer.
I'll come back when you update.

also chacked hit-sounds in Normal. it should be fine now.
Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated
changed 4K names
Starry-
8K Another seems fine now, diff names are fine.
Just a few more hitsound checks.

[8K Another]
00:22:470 (22470|5) - remove whistle? out of place

[8K Hyper]
00:20:270 (20270|7,20370|5) - in Another you use whistles for these beats, consider changing
00:20:670 (20670|7,20770|5) - 00:23:470 (23470|1,23570|3) - etc.
00:44:470 (44470|6,44870|7) - Why whistles? remove, no need and not in Another

01:09:870 (69870|0,70270|0) - You don't use these in Another?

01:23:070 (83070) - Add cymbal noise, feels empty (SSD cymbal used in another diff)

01:35:470 (95470|0) - Idk, I don't hear anything in the music that's like this

01:44:270 (104270|5,104470|5,104670|5,104870|5) - You don't use these in Another diff
01:49:670 (109670|4,110470|7,111270|6,111670|4,112070|5,112870|7,113670|6,114470|6,114870|7) - Not used in another

01:55:670 (115670|4,115670|0,115670|1,115670|6,115870|4,115870|6) - From here, make the next patterns have Kick -> Snare hitsounds, like the rest of the map (01:55:670 (115670|6,116470|1,117270|1) - for example, change these to snare)

02:10:870 (130870|5) - Snare

02:11:270 (131270|7,131470|7) - etc. You don't use these whistles in Another diff

[8K Normal]

00:17:270 (17270|2) - Add kick?

00:49:670 (49670|1) - Change to soft whistle echo hitsound

01:09:270 (69270|4) - Might as well just add snare here

01:44:270 (104270|6,104470|6,104670|6,104870|6,105470|7,105670|7,105870|7,106070|7) - These whistles are not in Another diff
01:46:670 (106670|5,106970|6,107270|7) -

01:58:870 (118870|2,119270|2) - Kicks? They're in another

02:11:270 (131270|5,131470|5,131870|6,132270|6) - Again whistles aren't in another

[4K Another]

00:04:470 (4470|0) - Change to snare since it's a Kick->Snare pattern of hitsounds
00:06:070 (6070|3) - Change to snare
00:07:670 (7670|2) - ^
00:08:470 (8470|1) - ^

00:20:270 (20270|2,20370|1,20670|3,20770|2) - Make these a whistle to be like other diffs, (the sound in the background)
00:23:470 (23470|3,23570|2,23870|3,23970|2) - ^ etc.

00:30:770 (30770|3) - Add clap
00:30:970 (30970|1) - Add finish, normal sampleset
00:31:170 (31170|0) - Change to normal sampleset
00:31:470 (31470|3) - ^

00:41:270 (41270|1) - Snare

00:59:670 (59670|2) - Snare
01:00:070 (60070|3) - Kick
01:00:470 (60470|3) - Snare
01:00:470 (60470|2) - Whistle(vocal)
01:01:270 (61270|0) - Snare
01:01:570 (61570|0) - Remove kick
01:04:470 (64470|0) - Snare
01:06:070 (66070|1) - Snare
01:06:870 (66870|0) - Snare
01:07:670 (67670|3) - Snare
01:09:270 (69270|3) - Snare

01:10:970 (70970|1,71170|1) - Normal sampleset
01:11:470 (71470|3) - ^

01:13:270 (73270|3) - Snare
01:14:870 (74870|3) - Snare
01:17:270 (77270|2) - Snare
01:19:670 (79670|0) - Snare

01:27:470 (87470|2,87670|2,87870|2) - Water drip sound?
01:30:270 (90270|1,90470|0,90670|0,90870|1) - ^

01:39:070 (99070|1) - Missing whistle
01:38:870 (98870|3) - Missing Kick

01:48:470 (108470|0) - You can make this a kick too

01:56:470 (116470|1) - Snare

02:00:570 (120570|2,120770|3) - Normal sampleset
02:01:070 (121070|3) - ^

02:02:870 (122870|3) - Snare
02:04:470 (124470|0) - Snare
02:06:870 (126870|2) - Snare
02:08:470 (128470|3) - Snare
02:10:870 (130870|0) - Snare
02:10:870 (130870|3) - Whistle
02:14:070 (134070|0) - Whistle

[]

I'll come back again when updated.
Topic Starter
dosyeru

Starry- wrote:

[8K Hyper]
01:09:870 (69870|0,70270|0) - You don't use these in Another?
yes im sure about these notes and hit-sounds.
01:35:470 (95470|0) - Idk, I don't hear anything in the music that's like this
the pitch of SFX are different between 01:32:270 and 01:38:670. i wanted to try following that in hyper.
added a note on S at 01:32:670 (92670|0) - and 01:35:870 (95870|0) - . it should make more sense now.

[8K Normal]
01:09:270 (69270|4) - Might as well just add snare here
mm no adding snare in this part sounds awkward to me.
01:58:870 (118870|2,119270|2) - Kicks? They're in another ^
[]
I'll come back again when updated.
thank you for hitsounds tips
LordRaika
mina-sannnn... gambarre d(T^T)b , mooo sukoshi dakeeeeee.....

Starry, let me know if u need me to help, i feel bad if i leave all the things to you.... asdfasdfasdf
( eventhough im on vacation during Lunar New Year )
-LASU-

Starry- wrote:

8K Another seems fine now, diff names are fine.
Just a few more hitsound checks.
hitsound
[4K Another]

00:04:470 (4470|0) - Change to snare since it's a Kick->Snare pattern of hitsounds
00:06:070 (6070|3) - Change to snare
00:07:670 (7670|2) - ^
00:08:470 (8470|1) - ^

00:20:270 (20270|2,20370|1,20670|3,20770|2) - Make these a whistle to be like other diffs, (the sound in the background)
00:23:470 (23470|3,23570|2,23870|3,23970|2) - ^ etc.

00:30:770 (30770|3) - Add clap
00:30:970 (30970|1) - Add finish, normal sampleset
00:31:170 (31170|0) - Change to normal sampleset
00:31:470 (31470|3) - ^

00:41:270 (41270|1) - Snare

00:59:670 (59670|2) - Snare
01:00:070 (60070|3) - Kick
01:00:470 (60470|3) - Snare
01:00:470 (60470|2) - Whistle(vocal)
01:01:270 (61270|0) - Snare
01:01:570 (61570|0) - Remove kick
01:04:470 (64470|0) - Snare
01:06:070 (66070|1) - Snare
01:06:870 (66870|0) - Snare
01:07:670 (67670|3) - Snare
01:09:270 (69270|3) - Snare

01:10:970 (70970|1,71170|1) - Normal sampleset
01:11:470 (71470|3) - ^

01:13:270 (73270|3) - Snare
01:14:870 (74870|3) - Snare
01:17:270 (77270|2) - Snare
01:19:670 (79670|0) - Snare

01:27:470 (87470|2,87670|2,87870|2) - Water drip sound?
01:30:270 (90270|1,90470|0,90670|0,90870|1) - ^

01:39:070 (99070|1) - Missing whistle
01:38:870 (98870|3) - Missing Kick

01:48:470 (108470|0) - You can make this a kick too

01:56:470 (116470|1) - Snare

02:00:570 (120570|2,120770|3) - Normal sampleset
02:01:070 (121070|3) - ^

02:02:870 (122870|3) - Snare
02:04:470 (124470|0) - Snare
02:06:870 (126870|2) - Snare
02:08:470 (128470|3) - Snare
02:10:870 (130870|0) - Snare
02:10:870 (130870|3) - Whistle
02:14:070 (134070|0) - Whistle
all done

I'll come back again when updated.
check thx

LordRaika wrote:

mina-sannnn... gambarre d(T^T)b , mooo sukoshi dakeeeeee.....
I’ll do my best.(^ω^)b
Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated
Starry-
Back again for hopefully a final check~
Also, consider adding μ's to tags, too.

Col 0123

[4K Another]
00:45:270 (45270|0) - Snare
01:46:970 (106970|1) - Remove whistle
[4K Hyper]
00:04:270 (4270|2,4370|0) - Whistle
00:04:670 (4670|2,4770|0) - Whistle
00:07:470 (7470|0,7570|1,7870|2) - Whistles, also
00:07:970 (7970|3) - Add note here, at col3 (0123), and add whistle.
00:09:170 (9170|1) - Kick
00:09:470 (9470|0,9570|1) - Snare
00:10:670 (10670|2,10770|0) - Whistle
00:11:070 (11070|3,11170|1) - Whistle
00:13:270 (13270|0,13370|1,13470|3) - CTRL+H for pitch relevancy
00:13:870 (13870|3,13970|2,14270|3,14370|0) - Whistles
00:18:470 (18470|0) - Cymbal SSD
00:18:870 (18870|0) - Remove finish
00:18:870 (18870|3) - Cymbal RDW
00:26:670 (26670|1,27070|1) - Whistles, since you used whistles here 00:23:470 (23470|0,23870|1) - etc.
00:31:270 (31270|0) - This is Cymbal RDW in Another
00:31:870 (31870|2) - Remove finish, no need (not in Another either)
00:44:070 (44070|1,44470|2) - Remove Whistle, not in Another
00:45:670 (45670|3,46070|1,46470|3,46870|3,47270|2,47670|3) - Add kicks here like Another diff
00:48:070 (48070|0,48470|0) - And here
00:49:670 (49670|1,49870|3,50270|1,50670|3) - have Chm Soft Whistle Echo here instead, like Another diff
00:56:670 (56670|2,57070|2,57470|2) - These should be kicks
00:56:870 (56870|3) - Snare
00:57:670 (57670|2,57970|1,58270|2) - Add cymbal SSD like Another diff
00:59:670 (59670|0,60470|0,61270|0,62870|0) - Change to Snare
01:06:070 (66070|1) - Snare
01:11:270 (71270|1) - Cymbal SSD
01:11:670 (71670|2) - Cymbal RDW
01:21:270 (81270|0) - Snare
01:26:870 (86870|1,86870|2) - This pattern, turn it like this: (left side original, right side changed)
With hitsounds:
  1. 01:27:470 (87470|2) - Water drip
  2. 01:27:670 (87670|0) - Change kick to water drip
01:43:470 (103470|0,103570|1,103870|1,103970|2) - Add snares, since not mapping to guitar
01:44:270 (104270|1,104470|1,104670|1,104870|1) - Remove since not in Another diff
01:45:470 (105470|2,105670|2,105870|2,106070|2) - ^ (remove whistles)
01:46:670 (106670|2,106970|2) - Remove whistles
01:46:970 (106970|2) - Move to 3 for pitch relevancy
01:50:470 (110470|3) - Remove whistle, not in Another
01:51:270 (111270|2) - Change to Snare
01:52:070 (112070|0) - Better balance if move to 3
02:00:870 (120870|1) - Cymbal SSD
02:01:270 (121270|3) - Cymbal RDW
02:06:870 (126870|0) - Snare
02:08:870 (128870|3) - Kick
02:11:270 (131270|3,131470|3,131870|3,132270|3) - Remove since not in Another diff
[4K Normal]
00:02:470 (2470) - Consider adding a LN here like so, to map to the snare stream, it makes a lot of sense.
00:16:470 (16470|2,16870|2,17270|2,17670|2,18070|2) - Best to make these all kicks like other diffs
00:19:270 (19270|3) - Kick
00:20:670 (20670|3) - Whistle
Suggest to add kick sounds on these notes, to be honest, I suggest to remove nearly all whistles on the next notes, since inconsistent with other diffs. I know it's mapped to vocals, but it's just inconsistent.
00:21:270 (21270|0) - Kick
00:21:670 (21670|2) - Kick
00:22:870 (22870|0) - Kick
00:24:470 (24470|1) - Kick
00:24:870 (24870|3) - Kick
00:26:070 (26070|3,26470|2,26870|1,27670|2,28070|1,28470|2,29270|2) - Add kicks here
00:32:870 (32870|2,33670|1) - Kicks
00:36:070 (36070|2,36870|2) - Kicks
00:40:870 (40870|0) - Kick
00:42:470 (42470|2) - Kick
00:43:470 (43470|0,43670|2,43870|1) - Best to make snares like other diffs
00:45:270 (45270|0) - Snare
00:49:670 (49670|2) - Soft Whistle Echo sound
01:00:070 (60070|3) - Kick
01:04:070 (64070|0) - Kick
01:06:470 (66470|1) - Kick
01:08:670 (68670|3) - Suggest to make LN up to 01:09:070 (69070) -
01:09:670 (69670|2) - Kick
01:10:670 (70670|0) - Clap
01:12:070 (72070|3) - Kick
01:13:470 (73470|0) - Whistle?
01:14:470 (74470|1) - Whistle
01:18:470 (78470|3) - Kick
01:19:470 (79470|1) - Whistle
01:44:270 (104270|2,104470|2,104670|2,104870|2) - Remove whistle since not in Another
01:45:470 (105470|3,105670|3,105870|3,106070|3) - ^
01:46:670 (106670|0,106970|1) - ^
01:48:870 (108870|3) - Kick?
01:59:270 (119270|2) - Kick
02:11:270 (131270|2,131470|2) - Remove since not in Another
02:11:870 (131870|3,132270|3) - ^
-LASU-

Starry- wrote:

Back again for hopefully a final check~
Also, consider adding μ's to tags, too.

Col 0123

hitsound
[4K Another]
00:45:270 (45270|0) - Snare
01:46:970 (106970|1) - Remove whistle
[4K Hyper]
00:04:270 (4270|2,4370|0) - Whistle
00:04:670 (4670|2,4770|0) - Whistle
00:07:470 (7470|0,7570|1,7870|2) - Whistles, also
00:07:970 (7970|3) - Add note here, at col3 (0123), and add whistle.
00:09:170 (9170|1) - Kick
00:09:470 (9470|0,9570|1) - Snare
00:10:670 (10670|2,10770|0) - Whistle
00:11:070 (11070|3,11170|1) - Whistle
00:13:270 (13270|0,13370|1,13470|3) - CTRL+H for pitch relevancy
00:13:870 (13870|3,13970|2,14270|3,14370|0) - Whistles
00:18:470 (18470|0) - Cymbal SSD
00:18:870 (18870|0) - Remove finish
00:18:870 (18870|3) - Cymbal RDW
00:26:670 (26670|1,27070|1) - Whistles, since you used whistles here 00:23:470 (23470|0,23870|1) - etc.
00:31:270 (31270|0) - This is Cymbal RDW in Another
00:31:870 (31870|2) - Remove finish, no need (not in Another either)
00:44:070 (44070|1,44470|2) - Remove Whistle, not in Another
00:45:670 (45670|3,46070|1,46470|3,46870|3,47270|2,47670|3) - Add kicks here like Another diff
00:48:070 (48070|0,48470|0) - And here
00:49:670 (49670|1,49870|3,50270|1,50670|3) - have Chm Soft Whistle Echo here instead, like Another diff
00:56:670 (56670|2,57070|2,57470|2) - These should be kicks
00:56:870 (56870|3) - Snare
00:57:670 (57670|2,57970|1,58270|2) - Add cymbal SSD like Another diff
00:59:670 (59670|0,60470|0,61270|0,62870|0) - Change to Snare
01:06:070 (66070|1) - Snare
01:11:270 (71270|1) - Cymbal SSD
01:11:670 (71670|2) - Cymbal RDW
01:21:270 (81270|0) - Snare
01:26:870 (86870|1,86870|2) - This pattern, turn it like this: (left side original, right side changed)
[Ex.1]

With hitsounds:
  1. 01:27:470 (87470|2) - Water drip
  2. 01:27:670 (87670|0) - Change kick to water drip
01:43:470 (103470|0,103570|1,103870|1,103970|2) - Add snares, since not mapping to guitar
01:44:270 (104270|1,104470|1,104670|1,104870|1) - Remove since not in Another diff
01:45:470 (105470|2,105670|2,105870|2,106070|2) - ^ (remove whistles)
01:46:670 (106670|2,106970|2) - Remove whistles
01:46:970 (106970|2) - Move to 3 for pitch relevancy
01:50:470 (110470|3) - Remove whistle, not in Another
01:51:270 (111270|2) - Change to Snare
01:52:070 (112070|0) - Better balance if move to 3
02:00:870 (120870|1) - Cymbal SSD
02:01:270 (121270|3) - Cymbal RDW
02:06:870 (126870|0) - Snare
02:08:870 (128870|3) - Kick
02:11:270 (131270|3,131470|3,131870|3,132270|3) - Remove since not in Another diff
[4K Normal]
00:02:470 (2470) - Consider adding a LN here like so, to map to the snare stream, it makes a lot of sense.
[Ex.2]
00:16:470 (16470|2,16870|2,17270|2,17670|2,18070|2) - Best to make these all kicks like other diffs
00:19:270 (19270|3) - Kick
00:20:670 (20670|3) - Whistle
Suggest to add kick sounds on these notes, to be honest, I suggest to remove nearly all whistles on the next notes, since inconsistent with other diffs. I know it's mapped to vocals, but it's just inconsistent.
00:21:270 (21270|0) - Kick
00:21:670 (21670|2) - Kick
00:22:870 (22870|0) - Kick
00:24:470 (24470|1) - Kick
00:24:870 (24870|3) - Kick
00:26:070 (26070|3,26470|2,26870|1,27670|2,28070|1,28470|2,29270|2) - Add kicks here
00:32:870 (32870|2,33670|1) - Kicks
00:36:070 (36070|2,36870|2) - Kicks
00:40:870 (40870|0) - Kick
00:42:470 (42470|2) - Kick
00:43:470 (43470|0,43670|2,43870|1) - Best to make snares like other diffs
00:45:270 (45270|0) - Snare
00:49:670 (49670|2) - Soft Whistle Echo sound
01:00:070 (60070|3) - Kick
01:04:070 (64070|0) - Kick
01:06:470 (66470|1) - Kick
01:08:670 (68670|3) - Suggest to make LN up to 01:09:070 (69070) -
01:09:670 (69670|2) - Kick
01:10:670 (70670|0) - Clap
01:12:070 (72070|3) - Kick
01:13:470 (73470|0) - Whistle?
01:14:470 (74470|1) - Whistle
01:18:470 (78470|3) - Kick
01:19:470 (79470|1) - Whistle
01:44:270 (104270|2,104470|2,104670|2,104870|2) - Remove whistle since not in Another
01:45:470 (105470|3,105670|3,105870|3,106070|3) - ^
01:46:670 (106670|0,106970|1) - ^
01:48:870 (108870|3) - Kick?
01:59:270 (119270|2) - Kick
02:11:270 (131270|2,131470|2) - Remove since not in Another
02:11:870 (131870|3,132270|3) - ^all done

Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated

added μ's to tags

changed pattern in Hyper from 01:43:270 (103270|7) - a bit
LordRaika
Stawwy~ i've check the dif again, its fine ^^ no weird LN...
also i've give some pattern suggestion for 4K 8-)


NO KUDOSU mod
2015-02-24 14:53 LordRaika: osuu ^^/
2015-02-24 14:53 LordRaika: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/600241 Iida Riho & Pile - Beat in Angel [-LASU-'s 4K Normal]]
2015-02-24 14:54 -LASU-: wow
2015-02-24 14:54 -LASU-: osu~^-^
2015-02-24 14:54 LordRaika: ^^ jst a wnt to give a little mod before starry rrebubble XD
2015-02-24 14:54 LordRaika: everything looks fine >w<
2015-02-24 14:55 LordRaika: but i want to suggest something
2015-02-24 14:56 -LASU-: Is anywhere in the part ?
2015-02-24 14:57 LordRaika: y
2015-02-24 14:58 LordRaika: 00:37:870 - http://puu.sh/gapMr.jpg here , try to put it like this
2015-02-24 14:59 LordRaika: becareful of the hitsound ^^, and that way, the LN play really nice on the vocal
2015-02-24 15:02 LordRaika: etoo ? XD
2015-02-24 15:03 -LASU-: okay 00:37:870 - changed
2015-02-24 15:03 -LASU-: nice desu>w<
2015-02-24 15:04 LordRaika: ok ^^
2015-02-24 15:04 -LASU-: I'm sorry I was thinking slowly...
2015-02-24 15:04 LordRaika: 01:57:670 (117670|0,117670|1,118070|2,118270|3,118470|0) - how bout make this simple? >>> http://puu.sh/gaq2x.jpg\
2015-02-24 15:04 LordRaika: daijoubu desu ^^/
2015-02-24 15:06 -LASU-: done desu- ^^/
2015-02-24 15:06 LordRaika: 02:03:070 (123070|2) - short LN too
2015-02-24 15:07 -LASU-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2817035 koudesuka?
2015-02-24 15:07 LordRaika: 02:08:670 (128670|1,128870|0,129470|0) - this pattern does not feels good ;w;
2015-02-24 15:07 LordRaika: yes yes ^^b
2015-02-24 15:08 -LASU-: 02:08:670 (128670|1,128870|0,129470|0) - hmm muzukashi?
2015-02-24 15:09 LordRaika: ie ie... tada... okashii XD
2015-02-24 15:09 LordRaika: haha
2015-02-24 15:09 -LASU-: hahaha ww
2015-02-24 15:10 -LASU-: dousureba iidesuka?
2015-02-24 15:10 LordRaika: haawawa
2015-02-24 15:10 LordRaika: etooo
2015-02-24 15:12 LordRaika: 02:08:270 - kore desu >> http://puu.sh/gaqly.jpg
2015-02-24 15:12 LordRaika: easier and still consistent LN for vocal, douu??
2015-02-24 15:13 -LASU-: It is a good idea okay^-^
2015-02-24 15:14 -LASU-: fixed
2015-02-24 15:14 LordRaika: \>w</
2015-02-24 15:15 LordRaika: done
2015-02-24 15:15 LordRaika: and
2015-02-24 15:15 LordRaika: moo chotto dake....
2015-02-24 15:15 LordRaika: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/608915 Iida Riho & Pile - Beat in Angel [-LASU-'s 4K Hyper]]
2015-02-24 15:15 -LASU-: okay
2015-02-24 15:16 LordRaika: 01:00:470 - this LN "start" and "end" is a bit weird
2015-02-24 15:17 LordRaika: 01:05:670 - soshite... >>> http://puu.sh/gaqyT.png better LN ^^
2015-02-24 15:19 -LASU-: naruhodo- ^^
2015-02-24 15:20 LordRaika: oh....00:59:270 - you can use the same style ^
2015-02-24 15:20 LordRaika: thats all desu ^^
2015-02-24 15:21 -LASU-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2817051
2015-02-24 15:21 -LASU-: pattern change -
2015-02-24 15:21 LordRaika: are... ii desu ^^b
2015-02-24 15:22 -LASU-: ^^
2015-02-24 15:22 LordRaika: ok thts all :D/
2015-02-24 15:22 -LASU-: thank you >w<
2015-02-24 15:22 LordRaika: the hitsound does not get delete right?
2015-02-24 15:28 -LASU-: When I want to delete the notes of the hit sound, I turn on hit sound after removing notes once
2015-02-24 15:28 LordRaika: ^^b nara ii desu
2015-02-24 15:28 -LASU-: ^-^

Stawwy~ ^^/ let's bub it.... and let me know once you are ready
-LASU-
Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated

お二人のIRCログをみてちょっとほっこりしました :oops:
RuberusuScarlet
ちょっとした提案?を

Another系にて
00:19:070 - ここにあるLR_CymbalSSD.wavは他のdiffにはないノートだし音楽にもないから少し音を下げてみたらどうかな…?
厳密に言えば60~70%ぐらい(そんなに変わらないかもだけど)

全diff共通
00:19:270 - から00:32:070 - シンバル系がちょっとうるさいかも(音楽はサビじゃないから少し音量低めだと思うし)65%ぐらいまで下げてもいいかも
(00:32:070 - と00:19:270 - のシンバルは除く)
8KAnotherの00:31:270 (31270|0) - は小さすぎかな

4KAnother
00:37:170 - add (とってる音(00:37:070 (37070|0,37370|2,37470|1,37570|2) - )と同じ感じで?)
01:24:020 (84020|3) - ヒットサウンド入れ忘れ(snare)


no kudos please

good luck. もう少しだよ!

追記:タグの倉内 達矢と畑 亜貴の苗字名前の空間あるっぽい

さらに追記: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2824800 おお、楽しい楽しい
Topic Starter
dosyeru

RuberusuScarlet wrote:

ちょっとした提案?を
Another系にて
00:19:070 - LR_CymbalSSD.wav - hit-sounds volume changed to 65%

全diff共通
00:19:270 - to 00:32:070 - cymbal sounds volume changed to 65%
8KAnotherの00:31:270 (31270|0) - は小さすぎかな changed to 60%

no kudos please 後で気づきました :o

追記:タグの倉内 達矢と畑 亜貴の苗字名前の空間あるっぽい
changes in tags
removed space from 倉内 達矢, and also 畑 亜貴
removed Original Song CD4 オリジナルソングCD④
提案ありです :)
-LASU-

RuberusuScarlet wrote:

ちょっとした提案?を

Another系にて
00:19:070 - ここにあるLR_CymbalSSD.wavは他のdiffにはないノートだし音楽にもないから少し音を下げてみたらどうかな…?
厳密に言えば60~70%ぐらい(そんなに変わらないかもだけど)

全diff共通
00:19:270 - から00:32:070 - シンバル系がちょっとうるさいかも(音楽はサビじゃないから少し音量低めだと思うし)65%ぐらいまで下げてもいいかも
(00:32:070 - と00:19:270 - のシンバルは除く)
8KAnotherの00:31:270 (31270|0) - は小さすぎかな
hitsoundの音量は8Kに合わせました(65%and60%)
4KAnother
00:37:170 - add (とってる音(00:37:070 (37070|0,37370|2,37470|1,37570|2) - )と同じ感じで?) add note 3
01:24:020 (84020|3) - ヒットサウンド入れ忘れ(snare) add snare


no kudos please

good luck. もう少しだよ!

追記:タグの倉内 達矢と畑 亜貴の苗字名前の空間あるっぽい 

さらに追記: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2824800 おお、楽しい楽しい  (^ω^)
提案どうもでした!
Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated
RuberusuScarlet

dosyeru wrote:

RuberusuScarlet wrote:

no kudos please 後で気づきました :o
わかりにくい位置に書いたウチが悪かったかも・・・w
Zan-
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

ye
[4K Normal]
suggestion about LN for vocal usage

00:19:670 (19670|2) - turn to LN till 00:20:070 -
00:20:670 (20670|3) - ^ till 00:21:070 -
00:21:670 (21670|2) - ^ till 00:22:070 - | this one can for emphasise effect too***
00:23:870 (23870|3) - ^ till 00:24:270 -
00:24:870 (24870|3) - ^ till 00:25:270 - | this one too***

00:25:670 - http://puu.sh/gfBu2/9246b8498d.jpg

00:26:470 (26470|2) - optional: turn this to LN till 00:26:870 -

00:27:070 (27070|2) - move to 1 then turn to LN till 00:27:470 -

00:28:870 (28870|1) - LN till 00:29:270 -

00:31:470 - optional: http://puu.sh/gfBGF/ac84d14fee.jpg

00:33:670 (33670|1) - LN till 00:34:070 -

00:36:870 (36870|2) - move to 4 then turn to LN till 00:37:270 -

00:40:870 - http://puu.sh/gfBM4/100eb965f7.jpg

00:41:870 (41870|2) - optional: move to 1 then turn to LN till 00:42:270 -

00:43:470 (43470|0) - move to 4

00:44:870 (44870|2,45270|0) - swap them

00:46:070 - ~ 00:47:670 - just out my thought, suddenly follow rhythm after vocal, then vocal again at 00:48:070 - hmmm it's ok but in my opinion a bit not consistence

00:48:070 (48070|0) - LN till 00:48:470 -
01:02:270 (62270|1) - ^ till 01:02:670 -
01:02:670 (62670|2) - ^ till 01:03:070 -
01:03:070 (63070|0) - ^ till 01:03:470 -

01:06:070 - add note at 1

01:07:070 (67070|0) - LN till 01:07:470 -

01:08:070 - add note at 3 | loud cymbal

01:10:270 (70270|1) - ^ till 01:10:670 -
01:13:470 (73470|0) - ^ till 01:13:870 -
01:15:270 (75270|3) - ^ till 01:15:670 -
01:15:870 (75870|0) - ^ till 01:16:270 -
01:16:270 (76270|1) - ^ till 01:16:670 -
01:16:670 (76670|2) - ^ till 01:17:070 -

01:27:870 - add note | preferably at 1

01:49:470 - add note at 4 | fill it instead empty
01:49:670 - ^ at 1

01:51:870 (111870|2) - LN till 01:52:270 -
01:52:270 (112270|1) - ^ till 01:52:670 -
01:52:670 (112670|2) - ^ till 01:53:070 -
01:53:470 (113470|1) - ^ till 01:53:870 -
01:55:270 (115270|2) - ^ till 01:55:670 -
01:56:670 (116670|0) - ^ till 01:57:070 -
01:59:870 (119870|0) - ^ till 02:00:270 -

02:04:870 - http://puu.sh/gfDdy/037531fc72.jpg

02:08:670 - http://puu.sh/gfDjc/4fa3cdf183.jpg

02:14:470 - until 02:29:070 - wow blank, you can put more notes here owo aaaa it's a waste

gl~
i'm ninzan
-LASU-
Zan - san mod thx ;)

4K Normal Update
osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 58470
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Title:Beat in Angel
TitleUnicode:Beat in Angel
Artist:Iida Riho & Pile
ArtistUnicode:飯田 里穂 & Pile
Creator:dosyeru
Version:-LASU-'s 4K Normal
Source:Love Live! School idol project
Tags:-LASU- μ's muse u's Hoshizora Rin Nishikino Maki Hori Eriko Kurauchi Tatsuya Hata Aki Lantis EMOTION Bandai Visual 星空凛 西木野真姫 堀絵梨子 倉内達矢 畑亜貴 バンダイビジュアル
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Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated
Starry-
Discussing with a few others now~
Will be back to give final checks soon.

Thank you for your patience!
Pinecone
Nice map :)
Starry-
Alright I just checked now.
Nearly all of Zan's mod was not applied.
I highly suggest to listen to his suggestions, since 4K NM needs the most work (in my opinion).

Since right now, most of the LN's are inconsistent - I spoke to other BNs about this too.
Sometimes you will make an LN for a vocal, and sometimes not?
I highly recommend to change, and reapply Zan's mod.

I apologise for any inconvenience.
Topic Starter
dosyeru
4K normal updated

Hazelnut- wrote:

Nice map :)
ty ;)
Starry-
0123
[4K Normal]
00:40:670 (40670|3) - This LN should end at 00:41:270 - (easier for this diff)

00:50:670 (50670|1) - More balanced at 2

01:13:070 (73070|3,73470|0) - CTRL+H
01:14:070 (74070|1) - Move to 0 - for pitch / balance.

01:19:470 (79470|1) - Kinda hard to hit / accuracy on, make normal note.

01:19:870 (79870|0,80070|1,80270|3,80470|2,80670|0,80870|1,81270|3) - CTRL+H works so much better for pitch
01:21:270 (81270|0) - Then move to 1 for balance.

01:57:270 (117270|3) - this part recommend to:

01:12:670 (72670|2,73070|0,73470|3) - 02:02:270 (122270|0,122670|1,123070|2) - why are these different?
rest looks a lot better now in this diff

[8K Normal]
00:17:070 (17070|4,17470|4) - Hitsound too loud ;w;
00:25:870 (25870|4,26070|5,26270|6) - Best to remove or rearrange, as a player, dont really see what this represents.
00:29:870 (29870|0,30270|0) - slightly too loud

[4K Hyper]
00:17:070 (17070|1,17470|1) - Too loud
Again this diff has (only slight) LN issues like Zan mentioned before. 00:20:070 (20070|1) - if this is LN, why not 00:19:671 - ? Stuff like this. Just for example. It's like this quite a lot. Suggest to remove some LN like this which is short vocal (1/1 vocal) or keep and add more LN for vocals.

00:49:270 (49270|1) - Move to 2

01:28:870 (88870|2) - Too loud

01:30:470 (90470|1,90870|1) - Actually might be best to remove water drip hitsounds after all. (only these)

01:30:870 (90870|2) - Move to 3

[8K Hyper]
00:17:070 (17070|5,17470|5) - loud

00:46:070 (46070|4) - Why drum sample set?
00:47:670 (47670|4) - ^

01:23:470 (83470|6,83570|4,83670|2,83770|6,83870|4,83970|2) - Either follow correct snap here, or make it LN or something.

01:25:470 (85470|0) - These hitsounds always so loud xD

01:32:270 (92270|0,92670|0,95470|0,95870|0) - Best to use the LR kick low ... noise (the one i say always too loud)

02:08:070 (128070|7) - Why LN here?

I'm more confident with this map now, so I will come more quickly~
Looking better!
Zan-
Pile is mine.
Topic Starter
dosyeru

Starry- wrote:

[8K Normal]
00:17:070 (17070|4,17470|4) - Hitsound too loud ;w; -15%
00:25:870 (25870|4,26070|5,26270|6) - Best to remove or rearrange, as a player, dont really see what this represents.
rearranged/reorganized to emphasize more organ piano sounds, and removed S notes from this section.
00:29:870 (29870|0,30270|0) - slightly too loud
that note was removed

[8K Hyper]
00:17:070 (17070|5,17470|5) - loud -15%
01:25:470 (85470|0) - These hitsounds always so loud xD ^
00:46:070 (46070|4) - Why drum sample set?
00:47:670 (47670|4) - ^ must be Rin-chan's prank :o removed
01:23:470 (83470|6,83570|4,83670|2,83770|6,83870|4,83970|2) - Either follow correct snap here, or make it LN or something.
remapped
01:32:270 (92270|0,92670|0,95470|0,95870|0) - Best to use the LR kick low ... noise (the one i say always too loud)
ok
02:08:070 (128070|7) - Why LN here?
To give variety of patterns into the chart. Is that answer to your question? Honestly i dont get your question.
I'm more confident with this map now, so I will come more quickly~
Looking better!
thx mod ;)

Zan - wrote:

Pile is mine.
you are gonna get spammed by all Pile's fans around the world lol
-LASU-

Starry- wrote:

0123
mod
[4K Normal]
00:40:670 (40670|3) - This LN should end at 00:41:270 - (easier for this diff) ok

00:50:670 (50670|1) - More balanced at 2 move

01:13:070 (73070|3,73470|0) - CTRL+H ok
01:14:070 (74070|1) - Move to 0 - for pitch / balance. move

01:19:470 (79470|1) - Kinda hard to hit / accuracy on, make normal note. change normal note

01:19:870 (79870|0,80070|1,80270|3,80470|2,80670|0,80870|1,81270|3) - CTRL+H works so much better for pitch ok
01:21:270 (81270|0) - Then move to 1 for balance. move

01:57:270 (117270|3) - this part recommend to:
Ex.1 http://puu.sh/gm5bG/c44c68d6ce.png ok

01:12:670 (72670|2,73070|0,73470|3) - 02:02:270 (122270|0,122670|1,123070|2) - why are these different?
rest looks a lot better now in this diff
01:12:670 (72670|2,73070|0,73470|3) - change pattern
[4K Hyper]
00:17:070 (17070|1,17470|1) - Too loud change 70%
Again this diff has (only slight) LN issues like Zan mentioned before. 00:20:070 (20070|1) - if this is LN, why not 00:19:671 - ? Stuff like this. Just for example. It's like this quite a lot. Suggest to remove some LN like this which is short vocal (1/1 vocal) or keep and add more LN for vocals.
00:19:670 - add LN
00:49:270 (49270|1) - Move to 2 move

01:28:870 (88870|2) - Too loud change 60%

01:30:470 (90470|1,90870|1) - Actually might be best to remove water drip hitsounds after all. (only these) remove

01:30:870 (90870|2) - Move to 3 move

I'm more confident with this map now, so I will come more quickly~
Looking better!
mod thx~(^ω^)

Topic Starter
dosyeru
updated
Starry-
[8K Hyper]01:24:070 (84070|0) - For this stream, something like this will work lots better. No need to skip notes. :P
02:13:070 (133070|3) - ^ same idea.
Rest seems fine

[4K Normal]
01:14:070 (74070|1) - Move to 0
01:19:670 - Best to add at 0 here for snare sound.
01:41:270 (101270|0) - Move to 1 for balance.

[4K Hyper]
00:35:270 (35270|2) - More balanced if moved to 3
00:54:870 (54870|2) - Add whistle like Another
02:03:270 (123270|1) - Move to 0 for balance.

[4K Another]
00:00:770 (770|1,1070|3) - CTRL+H? pitch
00:17:070 (17070|0,17470|0) - Too loud,
00:31:170 (31170|0) - Add finish
00:30:970 (30970|1,31170|0) - Put both in normal sample set (on left side of screen)
00:55:470 (55470|1) - Move to 0, balance
01:10:970 (70970|1,71170|1) - Put normal sample set (on left side of screen)
01:25:470 (85470|1,86470|2,87070|3,88670|0,88870|0) - Too loud
01:42:470 (102470|0,102470|3) -
Try this
http://puu.sh/gnRwg/b081d99c5f.png
The stream plays so much more comfortable like this.
01:59:470 (119470|1,119870|1) - So loud ;w;
02:00:570 (120570|2,120770|3) - Add finishes, and make normal sampleset

[8K Another]
I suggest on LR_Kick Low .wav noises to reduce volume to 65%
00:27:470 (27470|6) - More comfortable if moved to 7
00:30:270 (30270|5) - Move to 2? (optional, but a lot more comfortable if this on a different hand)
01:02:470 (62470|6) - Move to 7, more balance.
01:29:170 (89170|0) - Best to replace with LR_Kick low.wav sound with 65%

Pretty sure rest is fine :3/
LordRaika
Starry X_X why not just give a IRC mod , and talk with dosyeru & -LASU-
Zan-

LordRaika wrote:

Starry X_X why not just give a IRC mod , and talk with dosyeru & -LASU-
starry is too shy to give irc mod. srsly.
Blocko
Beep

IRC mod
20:49 dosyeru: hi
20:49 Blocko: hello
20:49 dosyeru: id like to ask your opinion about my mania map...
20:50 Blocko: sure
20:50 dosyeru: yay
20:50 *dosyeru is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/555227 Iida Riho & Pile - Beat in Angel [8K Hyper]]
20:50 dosyeru: at 01:23:470
20:50 dosyeru: 01:23:470 (83470|6) -
20:50 dosyeru: im trying to follow snare drums there
20:51 dosyeru: how would you map here in Hyper diff
20:51 Blocko: hold on, my internet is pretty bad right now, so it's taking me awhile to dl your map orz
20:52 dosyeru: oh ok, sry
20:52 Blocko: it's cool
20:54 Blocko: alright let's see
20:54 dosyeru: i mapped like this http://puu.sh/gofR2.jpg before
20:55 dosyeru: i changed to 32th notes since i got mod
20:55 dosyeru: but i feel filling full of 32th notes are not suit for Hyper diff
20:55 dosyeru: thats why i mapped the one you see now
20:56 Blocko: so what do you think is best for that part?
20:57 dosyeru: 16th notes are best for hyper diff imo
20:57 Blocko: i'm hearing 1/8th notes for the song
20:58 Blocko: similar to what you have mapped on 8k another
20:58 dosyeru: yeah music sounds 1/8 notes
20:59 dosyeru: im wodnering whether i should map exactly what music sounds in hyper or not
20:59 Blocko: i think it's good to map all sounds in there, as long as the patterns are easy
21:00 Blocko: [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2854000 just like this one, all sounds mapped with an easy stair pattern]
21:01 dosyeru: hm, i agree with that. modder also gave me the placement suggestion that was like what you gave me
21:02 Blocko: oh nice
21:02 dosyeru: i just couldnt decide if this stair is suit for hyper or not
21:02 Blocko: hmm
21:03 Blocko: i think it's fine
21:03 Blocko: you have a good variety of patterns mapped in hyper, and a burst like that is a nice touch imo
21:04 dosyeru: ah, you brought me new point of view that i never thought
21:05 dosyeru: yeap i rarely map stairs in hyper
21:05 Blocko: ah
21:05 dosyeru: ok, i take that
21:05 Blocko: alright
21:05 dosyeru: lets change to stairs
21:05 dosyeru: thx alot ;)
21:06 Blocko: you should probably do this one to hyper too 02:13:020 -
21:06 Blocko: oh, and correct offset for the song is 80
21:06 dosyeru: absolutely
21:06 dosyeru: really
21:06 Blocko: yeah
21:06 Blocko: the song sounded quite early with 70
21:07 Blocko: test that out and see if that's the correct one
21:10 Blocko: wait, a more correct one would be 79
21:10 Blocko: check that one?
21:11 dosyeru: ahh i dunno. both seems fine to me while test-playting lol
21:12 Blocko: 79 is a better one
21:12 dosyeru: you are the first one who suggested new offset
21:12 Blocko: oh?
21:12 Blocko: i thought other people would've found that by now
21:13 dosyeru: i started to feel good with offset 79
21:14 Blocko: ah, that's good
21:15 Blocko: so do i post this short irc mod in the thread?
21:16 dosyeru: yeah pls.
21:16 Blocko: alrighty
21:17 dosyeru: so that i have supportive opinion for changing offset


In short, this IRC mod is about a certain pattern in 8K Hyper, and a new offset suggestion of 79. Seemed a bit off for the song, so that's why I suggested that.
Good luck to qualified!
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