I already tried to tell him that. But no, looks like I'm just an asshole KappaTasha wrote:
I don't get that line of logic. OWC is played for fun as well. There are several teams that join knowing full well they won't be able to win even if they do make it to the finals let alone semifinals. I'm playing TWC knowing full well it'd be pretty much impossible for team Canada to beat France or Japan (assuming they registered now), but I'm still going to play because it lets us see how we stack up against other countries while having fun.
You can still be competitive and have a good time while not expecting to win. Having a mindset that anyone attempting to do this shouldn't be playing would mean tournaments would never exist, because most of us know who the teams are that will win.
Not my goal to flame here but I feel genuinely sorry for your country if you aren't participating just because you won't win. That isn't the spirit of the tournament and you're only making the experience bad for yourself and others from your country who could otherwise enjoy the tournament and have fun.
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If they were as many uberpro Taiko players as std we could start to worry about pure competitiveness.
bruuhhhhhPagliaccio wrote:
Shut the fuck up noob and don't say any stupid things more.
Anyways going off on everything in this thread, I would love to play in the TWC but I can't because my countrymen are better than me! At least you have the opportunity to take part in an awesome event that many people are taking the time out of their day to run.
With that logic you're basically saying that African, North American, and Asian countries shouldn't even participate in the actual soccer world cup because they have little to no chance of winning. They play for the experience just as you should. I'm not trying to make you do anything, rather just offer a different perspective on how to look at playing in the TWC.
I also signed up at TWC , although I am still not great ability , at least I was able to participate in this tournament .
sorry , if my English language is not good , because I use google translate
sorry , if my English language is not good , because I use google translate
Are you the one that playing for the rank not for the fun ?Pagliaccio wrote:
If you gonna play TWC "just for fun" - go and play MP then with noobs.
just a friendly reminder :
the reason I signed up at this tournament is I want to get the experience of playing in the tournament . winning or losing is not a problem , but I will try my best .
but the problem is I still have not entered the registered group .
but the problem is I still have not entered the registered group .
You screwed up your quotes bro, I'm not insulting anybodygoatlife wrote:
bruuhhhhhArrival wrote:
Shut the fuck up noob and don't say any stupid things more.
Man, I remember when 2 years ago I was like: "Why should I even participate if there are completely no chances for us?". If that's the reason why other countries aren't taking the part in this TWC... that's just sad, as guys explained above.
I know, that for lower ranks getting 'rekt' by Godlike teams wil not be fun at all, but that's not the point. It's not only about playing. Since the matches will be livestreamed (I hope), you can always watch others, even cheer them up and all this stuff. I know you guys also have friends all around osu! and you will be able to watch them struggling in hard matches.
But... not participating because of "having no chances" is really a bad idea. I realized that myself some time ago, even is our country is always knocked out after leaving the group stage. Also, playing in multiplayer with some random people is not even close to being the same as TWC. Of course, you can gather some people and play with them, but still - it's not the same.
From this point, I don't want to insult anybody, but stop crying and get into TWC. Who cares if you lose even on first match.
IMHO, TWC is an event where you can just forget about your rank. Am I just naive too?
I know, that for lower ranks getting 'rekt' by Godlike teams wil not be fun at all, but that's not the point. It's not only about playing. Since the matches will be livestreamed (I hope), you can always watch others, even cheer them up and all this stuff. I know you guys also have friends all around osu! and you will be able to watch them struggling in hard matches.
But... not participating because of "having no chances" is really a bad idea. I realized that myself some time ago, even is our country is always knocked out after leaving the group stage. Also, playing in multiplayer with some random people is not even close to being the same as TWC. Of course, you can gather some people and play with them, but still - it's not the same.
From this point, I don't want to insult anybody, but stop crying and get into TWC. Who cares if you lose even on first match.
IMHO, TWC is an event where you can just forget about your rank. Am I just naive too?
lol woops fixedArrival wrote:
You screwed up your quotes bro, I'm not insulting anybody
Your fix is even worse than before xD
HELP ME LMFAO GOD DAMNNashmun wrote:
Your fix is even worse than before xD
I am in the same boat as goatlife, be grateful you have the chance to compete. I'll be rooting my country on whether I'm on or off the team itself.
Fix your sig ^
Related news apparently janitoreihil can't play for Canada anymore due to a computer issue. This'll be fun.
Related news apparently janitoreihil can't play for Canada anymore due to a computer issue. This'll be fun.
Sorry, wasn't sure if i could participate but registered right before regs closed. I probably took a position that could have potentially been yours ;_;jdshark wrote:
I am in the same boat as goatlife, be grateful you have the chance to compete. I'll be rooting my country on whether I'm on or off the team itself.
Also, i had no idea i even made the team. Didn't realize it till i was told yesterday by someone else on the team... so i should probably start playing again
As much as I too want to play in the TWC as the next guy, I'm glad that the USA got more than 6 registrants. It really shows how serious USA is taking this year's TWC.
lolTasha wrote:
Fix your sig ^
also, good luck~
How can you be sure, did you sign up ? Maybe other Thai players also did, you have the capacity to build a team 
Hmmm, this edition will be very interesting, like Japan vs France~
rrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy
IF IT EVER HAPPENSMicrowavex7 wrote:
Hmmm, this edition will be very interesting, like Japan vs France~
It happens every year, so it'll probably happen again :p
Good Luck to all
See How you do Spain.
See How you do Spain.
Topic Starter
As it stands now, we have 23 registered rosters. Since this is an odd number, we have several way of how to structure the group stage.
Generally, letting 16 teams pass seems weird due to the low amount of competitiors. As we plan to only let 8 teams ascend to the double elimination stage, we have these options figured:
Generally, letting 16 teams pass seems weird due to the low amount of competitiors. As we plan to only let 8 teams ascend to the double elimination stage, we have these options figured:
- We form 3 groups á 6 teams and 1 group á 5 teams, whereas the top 2 of every group ascends.
- We form 6 groups á 3 teams and 2 groups á 4 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends.
- We form 5 groups á 4 teams and 1 group á 3 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends + the best 2 2nd places across all groups.
Wow, why can't we have a regular 16teams brackets ? As for the three options I have no special preference but whatever you chose make sure you seed the teams before drawing.
The quality of the seeding heavily influences which of these options would be the most fair.
Topic Starter
The only objective seeding would be determined by the average raw pp or average global rank of the entire team. Personally, I planned to seed the teams by the average raw pp.
Letting 16 of 23 (~70%) teams pass makes a group stage obsolete, as it serves to "prefilter" before we enter the actual load-heavy double elimination stage.Nashmun wrote:
Wow, why can't we have a regular 16teams brackets ? As for the three options I have no special preference but whatever you chose make sure you seed the teams before drawing.
i think the first option would be the best, that way you can still have a chance of getting through the group stage if you have one of the best teams in your group.
Yeah first or second seems better than the third one because best 2nd will depend too much on the actual group
First option looks like the best choice to me
Why not based on the three main participant instead ? That mean a team with 3 people ~#200 would be higher seeded than a team with 3players ~#100 and backups ~#500, which seems pretty odd to meLoctav wrote:
The only objective seeding would be determined by the average raw pp or average global rank of the entire team. Personally, I planned to seed the teams by the average raw
Topic Starter
There is no such thing as "main participant". The idea or term of "backups" has been abolished 2 years ago. Everyone is an equal member of their team.
I say the third one is the best. So people will have to care about other groups too, not just their one.Loctav wrote:
As it stands now, we have 23 registered rosters. Since this is an odd number, we have several way of how to structure the group stage.
Generally, letting 16 teams pass seems weird due to the low amount of competitiors. As we plan to only let 8 teams ascend to the double elimination stage, we have these options figured:Let me know what you guys like the most.
- We form 3 groups á 6 teams and 1 group á 5 teams, whereas the top 2 of every group ascends.
- We form 6 groups á 3 teams and 2 groups á 4 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends.
- We form 5 groups á 4 teams and 1 group á 3 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends + the best 2 2nd places across all groups.
considering that only 8 teams are passing, I also agree that the first option is best because it provides you with the most chances of getting through group stages... especially if you play against asian teams every time you register for a tournament as i have... ;p
I know That, but you cannot encourage people to have "backups" in their teams and then penalize them in the seeding system for taking more players than the strict minimum.Loctav wrote:
There is no such thing as "main participant". The idea or term of "backups" has been abolished 2 years ago. Everyone is an equal member of their team.
Some teams could actually be tempted to take fewer players if it can give them better seeds. (Not talking about our case)
I have to agree with XavierJones.XavierJones wrote:
I say the third one is the best. So people will have to care about other groups too, not just their one.
With this it is more likely to get though the first round, if you had trouble in some matches. It also shows, how the two 2nd places could perform in the following matches, by comparing the matches they've played.
The first one is the middle way, which means it's acceptable, although it means that there are gonna be the risk of setting early winners. But if the matchmaking is based on raw pp it could go well.
With the second option to say is the worst. if it's only with 2 matches this would cause into enourmous pressure on the teams, and that every round literally decides about the end.
If it's with a rematch, it could be better, but still not good enough in comparison with option 1 and 3.
First one is the bestLoctav wrote:
Let me know what you guys like the most.
- We form 3 groups á 6 teams and 1 group á 5 teams, whereas the top 2 of every group ascends.
- We form 6 groups á 3 teams and 2 groups á 4 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends.
- We form 5 groups á 4 teams and 1 group á 3 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends + the best 2 2nd places across all groups.
For the third one, if you have 2 big power house in the same group, one of them will be kicked easily, which makes the game less interesting
Second one is wrong. 6x3 +2x4 = 18+8 = 26 . Please work on your maths.
My own suggestion is
5 x 3 , 2 x 4 a total of 7 group
which 7 1st will promote, and the 2nd from the 2 groups of 4 will have an extra match which complete the last slot
The pros of this is letting the 2 groups of 4 , which should be harder to get the 1st, have a chance to come back