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Goose house - Hikaru nara

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Shad0w1and wrote:

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00:13:782 (4,1,2,3,4) - 滑條盡量白綫起，這裏反人類我掉了3次。Normal最好不要這麽追變奏为了彰显品味换红线1/2
00:26:345 (1) - 這個滑條明顯始于00:26:720 - 更好我看还行
音效貌似有些單調，還有感覺用不着弄這麽多音量級別
note整體感覺和我的感覺有些不同，可能需要大改？我會這麽下：00:55:970 - 開始（沒有排列，衹看我的節奏就好）

tutuhaha wrote:

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节奏塞太满了，有些地方我不大懂你是在跟人声还是音乐
00:17:345 (1) - 在0017720处结尾对
00:17:907 (2) - 然后再在这里加note因为后面的节奏和这块是相同的所以要保持一致如果你真的想在这里拖拍那么后面也得拖，，，。
00:26:345 (1,2) - ^一样改了
^然后改了上面这个后你会发现跟红线音会非常奇怪所以把红线音移回白线
最后这边的节奏就会变成这样
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512585
00:43:220 (6) - delete改，空了一拍起红线
00:43:407 (x) -
00:43:595 (x) - 然后在这两个地方rhythm
00:45:845 (4) - 4移到这里
我这样的改法是把你主要的节奏效果放在人声上，你这样一半跟人声一半跟背景音真的很奇怪 改了，没太看懂，总之4换1/2白线
00:55:970 (1) - kiai这里开始的这个节奏我觉得改成这样比较合适
osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512601
00:58:970 (1) - 然后这里的节奏改成这样挺好，改
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512605
就是主要跟人声啦其实，后面的节奏基本上都是一模一样的改法了就不一个个说了

ZZHBOY wrote:

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  1. 00:07:782 (1) - 不如用红描点好看点 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2514535对
  2. 00:17:345 (1) - 2/3滑条反而把00:17:720 - 这里的鼓漏了 建议用1/2已改
  3. 00:28:407 (5) - 考虑拆成一个圈加一个1/1滑条来跟这里的鼓00:28:595 - 想跟红线
  4. 01:18:657 (4,5) - 这里一大坨notes看起来好挤啊 试试让中间空一点像这样http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2514547已改
  5. 01:45:470 (1,2) - 这里感觉也可以拆开 像这样去跟鼓感觉会好点https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2514555已改
  6. 02:20:532 (6) - 这种双描点的滑条在低难度感觉后面不复制粘贴弄对称的话还是不美观 不如用之前建议的那种红描点滑条.-.已改
  7. 03:11:532 (3) - 这种到不如用一个描点弄圆弧型的滑条好看惹=.=
谢谢摸摸

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Cerulean Veyron
2,090 posts
Joined August 2012
Cerulean Veyron

tutuhaha wrote:

[Easy]
00:13:970 (1) - weird rhythm Following those guitar background music.
00:52:970 (1) - ^ ^
well same problem wouldnt repeat again I got them, but kept some of it.
..actually I think you should use whistle to instead clap, like what other diffs did. Not intended to add claps, but at least some are on kiai times and some tracks.

ZZHBOY wrote:

[Easy]
  1. 00:00:470 (1,3) - set soft sample set on their tail because there have no drum sound Tried my best here, but going to use a whistle for now.
  2. 00:10:595 - add a circle to follow the music? Yeah, but i'll keep this rhythm to avoid replete of clicking in Easy diff.
  3. 00:58:595 - ^ ^
  4. 01:06:470 (3) - move right a little to avoid overlap? Sure
Thanks both of you!

Oh, how i wish someday to learn that language to understand other mods >.>
http://puu.sh/et5rH/edbaff5128.rar
GGFFQQ55
121 posts
Joined March 2013
Topic Starter
GGFFQQ55

Shad0w1and wrote:

MV包：http://pan.baidu.com/s/1lOvhW
Offset對於你現在的MP3：-3109ms
矯正后的MV：http://pan.baidu.com/s/1dDAKLtZ
offset：-6

Easy 略。。慢死了

[Normal]
00:13:782 (4,1,2,3,4) - 滑條盡量白綫起，這裏反人類我掉了3次。Normal最好不要這麽追變奏
00:26:345 (1) - 這個滑條明顯始于00:26:720 - 更好
音效貌似有些單調，還有感覺用不着弄這麽多音量級別
note整體感覺和我的感覺有些不同，可能需要大改？我會這麽下：00:55:970 - 開始（沒有排列，衹看我的節奏就好）
SPOILER



[Hard]
排列很單調，需要更大膽
01:10:970 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 很亂
01:10:782 (4,1) - 分開，DS不需要釘死，Hard以上講究視覺DS（滑條距離note的距離而不是首位距離），盡量不要像這種重叠
節奏基本對了，音效有點單調，主要就是排列有問題，基本要全部重調，和我的圖一樣Orz

[Insane]
01:17:532 (4) - 可以改滑條 这边是两个三角跳梗
01:17:907 (5,6,7) - 不要弄成大跳 思考。。。我觉得还可以吧。。。
01:18:470 (1,2,3,4,5) - 考慮更大膽 我觉得这里差不多够了其实。。。再大会比较难打
01:19:782 (1) - 轉個方向
01:20:720 (2,3,4,5) - 不太贊同變DS 还是想给一种加速的感觉，毕竟曲子是在渐增嘛w
總體DS太亂。。不是特殊段落的話，建議遵循 分小節按ds固定值擺，滑條按固定相隔距離擺（非DS）嗯，我回去看看
GGFFQQ55
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Topic Starter
GGFFQQ55

Crystal wrote:

mod insane and hard as you requested

[Info]
  1. Red: Unrankable Issues
  2. Bold: Highly Recommended
  3. Black: Personal Suggestions

[General]
  1. AIR's Normal' ---> AIR's Normal 这也太不仔细了吧;w;

[Insane]
  1. 总的来说，有一些间距放的很难读。比如01:08:345 (2,3) - ，这种1/1停顿要么stack起来要么把3放在352|288之类的地方显示节奏。还有一些一样的问题就不详细说了 fixed。
  2. 一些nazi的stack,blanket等等就不提了，建议先好好检查一下。 猴w
  3. 00:03:845 (2,3,4) - 都加finish太吵了 下面那个改了，这个暂时保留一下。。。
  4. 00:04:970 (1) - 应该加finish的没加
  5. 00:13:782 (4,5,1) - ctrl+G? 不太影响flow但是感觉明显好多了 这里是打算给一种反向flow的感觉。。。
  6. 00:28:782 (6,7,1) - 间距不对吧 这种比较丑 stack起来了
  7. 01:00:657 (2) - 这个换成2个大间距circle可以会比较好 可以强调这里重音 (后面的也一样) 感觉没啥必要。。。观望一下
  8. 01:11:907 (5) - NC fixed
  9. 01:18:282 (7,1,2,3,4) - 这里间距看不清，先前的712会让人以为后面的都是1/2，所以建议4不要stack 可以放在别的地方，3也放远点 (相似的，01:57:095 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ) orz 这个梗的想法就是stack住4，所以似乎是没什么办法。。。我再看看好了，谢谢！
  10. 01:32:345 (2,3) - 分别放在176|128 128|40可能会更好点 后面的pattern一般是甩尾flow的感觉 这里还是和前面一节的梗对应了一下。。。
  11. 01:42:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ;w;间距好难读 4可以stack在3，或者放在176|72之类然后把6对称一下 把4stack了，谢谢！
  12. 01:45:470 (1) - 改成两个circle以突出重音 间距有点难搞。。。
  13. 02:58:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 123456的时候是1/2有间隔的，后面是均匀1/2... 可是为什么要用一样的排列呢? 修改方案见 01:18:282 这里的梗想给一种延续的感觉orz 可能搞得不太好，我再看看好了
  14. 排列问题还需要多下工夫。

[Hard]
  1. 00:03:845 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - 音效问题同Insane
  2. 00:13:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 排列问题类似于Insane
  3. 00:53:720 (2) - 建议滑条缩短到上一个白线，在原来的结尾处+个circle
  4. 03:05:532 (2,3,4) - 有点难看,建议试试这个http://puu.sh/e0gef/ada23a0a0c.jpg
  5. 03:24:470 (1) - 从03:24:095开始吧

good luck.
GGFFQQ55
121 posts
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Topic Starter
GGFFQQ55

tutuhaha wrote:

[Insane]
00:02:157 (1,2,3) - 间距搞一样咯 fixed
00:05:345 (2,3) - 00:05:720 (5,6) - 间距统一 fixed
00:06:095 (6) - clap fixed
00:11:720 (4) - ctrl+g fixed
00:22:595 (5,6) - ..这俩不能覆盖好么强迫症伤不起啊fixed
00:24:470 (1,2,3,4) - 这里都用同一间距比较好 fixed 后面被迫动了两小节。。。
00:26:345 (3) - 00:27:095 (6) - clap fixed
00:31:595 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - ..clap呢fixed
00:42:470 (1) - 这个可以换成circle比较好 fixed
00:46:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ..间距稍微统一一下咯 fixed
00:48:845 (2) - 00:49:595 (4) - 这俩都可以ctrl+g一下 fixed
00:56:720 (5,6) - - delete fixed
00:59:720 (5) - delete fixed
01:02:720 (3) - delete fixed
01:05:720 (4) - delete fixed
01:17:907 (5,6,7) - 间距要不统一要不和01:16:970 (1,2,3,4) - 一样间距差拉开一点 fixed
01:21:470 (1,2,3,4) - 间距统一咯 这里我倒觉得还可以啊。。
....然后你的固定间距是啥？就是不跳的时候的间距，因为你用的间距太杂所以搞得整个谱面很混乱 orz 我去复查
01:48:470 (1,2) - 前面都是跳这边统一一下 猴。。。fixed
02:01:220 (3,4) - delete fixed
02:04:220 (3) - delete fixed
02:07:220 (5) - deletefixed
02:16:220 (5) - delete fixed
02:28:970 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ...蛮有趣的节奏处理成这样有点可惜，找点好玩点的方法咯 思考。。。暂时没想好怎么玩，先放着好了w
02:46:970 (5,1,2) - 间距统一 这样摆似乎flow比较顺。。。先观望
03:02:720 (4,5) - delete fixed
03:05:720 (5) - delete fixed
03:07:595 (4) - clap fixed
03:08:720 (5) - delete fixed
03:14:720 (5) - 保留红线上节奏 fixed
03:14:720 (5) - delete fixed
[Hard]
总而言之最大的问题就是间距啦........很混乱所以搞得整个铺面有点...乱
00:16:970 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 统一间距 fixed
00:47:720 (3,4,1,2,3) - ...丑..间距搞一样 fixed
00:50:720 (2,3) - 拉开一点比较好看 fixed
01:12:282 (5) - 这个三连我觉得没啥必要.. 这个节奏还是跟ins一样的。。。
01:28:407 (x) - +note fixed
02:12:470 (1) - 为啥从这里要用比前面更大的间距呢？...完全没必要啊.. 这个三角跳变小一点好了。。。
02:26:720 (2,3,4) - 统一间距 fixed
02:38:532 (2,3,4,1) - ^ fixed
02:39:470 (1,2,3,4) - ^ fixed
02:40:970 (1,2) - 真想搞对称间距也得和前面至少看起来差不多_(:зゝ∠)_ fixed
03:19:876 (8) - 这个我觉得可以delete掉 前面都是三连节奏，我还是继续三连吧orz
细节决定成败啊
就像sjoy说的没必要的梗不需要搞太多，首先这个音乐属于平缓类型的，这就注定了它肯定不会用到过多的梗
[Easy]
00:13:970 (1) - weird rhythm
00:52:970 (1) - ^
well same problem wouldnt repeat again
..actually I think you should use whistle to instead clap, like what other diffs did.
[Normal]
节奏塞太满了，有些地方我不大懂你是在跟人声还是音乐
00:17:345 (1) - 在0017720处结尾
00:17:907 (2) - 然后再在这里加note因为后面的节奏和这块是相同的所以要保持一致如果你真的想在这里拖拍那么后面也得拖
00:26:345 (1,2) - ^一样
^然后改了上面这个后你会发现跟红线音会非常奇怪所以把红线音移回白线
最后这边的节奏就会变成这样
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512585
00:43:220 (6) - delete
00:43:407 (x) -
00:43:595 (x) - 然后在这两个地方rhythm
00:45:845 (4) - 4移到这里
我这样的改法是把你主要的节奏效果放在人声上，你这样一半跟人声一半跟背景音真的很奇怪
00:55:970 (1) - kiai这里开始的这个节奏我觉得改成这样比较合适
osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512601
00:58:970 (1) - 然后这里的节奏改成这样
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512605
就是主要跟人声啦其实，后面的节奏基本上都是一模一样的改法了就不一个个说了
GGFFQQ55
121 posts
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Topic Starter
GGFFQQ55

tutuhaha wrote:

[Insane]
00:02:157 (1,2,3) - 间距搞一样咯
00:05:345 (2,3) - 00:05:720 (5,6) - 间距统一
00:06:095 (6) - clap
00:11:720 (4) - ctrl+g
00:22:595 (5,6) - ..这俩不能覆盖好么强迫症伤不起啊
00:24:470 (1,2,3,4) - 这里都用同一间距比较好
00:26:345 (3) - 00:27:095 (6) - clap
00:31:595 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - ..clap呢
00:42:470 (1) - 这个可以换成circle比较好
00:46:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ..间距稍微统一一下咯
00:48:845 (2) - 00:49:595 (4) - 这俩都可以ctrl+g一下
00:56:720 (5,6) - - delete
00:59:720 (5) - delete
01:02:720 (3) - delete
01:05:720 (4) - delete
01:17:907 (5,6,7) - 间距要不统一要不和01:16:970 (1,2,3,4) - 一样间距差拉开一点
01:21:470 (1,2,3,4) - 间距统一咯
....然后你的固定间距是啥？就是不跳的时候的间距，因为你用的间距太杂所以搞得整个谱面很混乱
01:48:470 (1,2) - 前面都是跳这边统一一下
02:01:220 (3,4) - delete
02:04:220 (3) - delete
02:07:220 (5) - delete
02:16:220 (5) - delete
02:28:970 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ...蛮有趣的节奏处理成这样有点可惜，找点好玩点的方法咯
02:46:970 (5,1,2) - 间距统一
03:02:720 (4,5) - delete
03:05:720 (5) - delete
03:07:595 (4) - clap
03:08:720 (5) - delete
03:14:720 (5) - 保留红线上节奏
03:14:720 (5) - delete
[Hard]
总而言之最大的问题就是间距啦........很混乱所以搞得整个铺面有点...乱
00:16:970 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 统一间距
00:47:720 (3,4,1,2,3) - ...丑..间距搞一样
00:50:720 (2,3) - 拉开一点比较好看
01:12:282 (5) - 这个三连我觉得没啥必要..
01:28:407 (x) - +note
02:12:470 (1) - 为啥从这里要用比前面更大的间距呢？...完全没必要啊..
02:26:720 (2,3,4) - 统一间距
02:38:532 (2,3,4,1) - ^
02:39:470 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:40:970 (1,2) - 真想搞对称间距也得和前面至少看起来差不多_(:зゝ∠)_
03:19:876 (8) - 这个我觉得可以delete掉
细节决定成败啊
就像sjoy说的没必要的梗不需要搞太多，首先这个音乐属于平缓类型的，这就注定了它肯定不会用到过多的梗
[Easy]
00:13:970 (1) - weird rhythm
00:52:970 (1) - ^
well same problem wouldnt repeat again
..actually I think you should use whistle to instead clap, like what other diffs did.
[Normal]
节奏塞太满了，有些地方我不大懂你是在跟人声还是音乐
00:17:345 (1) - 在0017720处结尾
00:17:907 (2) - 然后再在这里加note因为后面的节奏和这块是相同的所以要保持一致如果你真的想在这里拖拍那么后面也得拖
00:26:345 (1,2) - ^一样
^然后改了上面这个后你会发现跟红线音会非常奇怪所以把红线音移回白线
最后这边的节奏就会变成这样
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512585
00:43:220 (6) - delete
00:43:407 (x) -
00:43:595 (x) - 然后在这两个地方rhythm
00:45:845 (4) - 4移到这里
我这样的改法是把你主要的节奏效果放在人声上，你这样一半跟人声一半跟背景音真的很奇怪
00:55:970 (1) - kiai这里开始的这个节奏我觉得改成这样比较合适
osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512601
00:58:970 (1) - 然后这里的节奏改成这样
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2512605
就是主要跟人声啦其实，后面的节奏基本上都是一模一样的改法了就不一个个说了
GGFFQQ55
121 posts
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Topic Starter
GGFFQQ55

sjoy wrote:

摸摸摸 我懒就看看最高难度好了
[Insane]
00:13:032 (2) - 这个放在00:13:407 (3) - 擦边感觉更好 这里还是想着跟前面的间距的。。。
00:37:970 (1,2,3,4) - 你这里跟电子琴 后面8个单点又跟鼓给人 感觉很突兀 诶多。。。这里的鼓特别想跟，前面也跟鼓好像又不合适。。。所以就这样了orz不过后面也是这样跟的，应该问题不大吧
00:41:345这里怎么空了 有点难受 这里跟的是人声和那个不知道是什么乐器（乐痴的我）
00:56:720 (5,6,7) - 白线的3连感觉有点难受 建议 删 6 45连成滑条 这里已经改掉惹，不过变成了空拍;w;
01:08:907 (3) - 这个放那么近 又空拍 感觉很奇怪 fixed
01:22:782这节的CLAP 怎么美丽 fixed
01:37:220 (2) - 太近了 fixed
01:44:157 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这个梗的DS有点太夸张了又 不是什么KIAI段落 比KIAI还大感觉不合曲 orz这梗跟前面00:37:970 (1,2,3,4)这里后面的梗是对应的，节奏下的也一样。。。
02:01:220 (3,4,5) - 同前面那个3连 fixed
02:47:720 (2) - 这里我觉得应该放大距离 而不是那么近 fixed 增大了一点间距。。。不过因为后面是break还是用的统一间距
03:14:720 (5,6) - 分别CTRL+G 啊这里改掉了
说实话 我感觉有些 梗是为了梗而梗的
00:55:970 (1,2,3,4) - 这种 稍微改了
01:02:720 (3,4,5,6) - 这种 这里改掉啦
02:13:876 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - 这种 orz
给我的感觉大概是恩这段部分 让我想个梗塞进去吧
然后就赛进去了，我觉得作图不用特意是想梗赛 凭感觉有时候真的不错 可能还是火候没到吧orz
希望对你有所帮助~
Narcissu
1,744 posts
Joined August 2012
Narcissu
00:55:782 - 建議的音樂預覽位置，不從kiai直接開始而提前1/2 是為了能聽清楚人聲，然後第一個kiai可以讓遊戲內的玩家可以聽包括主歌間奏，不會重複最後一段kiai 和結尾

insane

00:40:970 - 這個和kiai一樣的sv 不可理喻 ……這一排建議遞增 ……00:40:970 - 這裡0.8 ，00:49:970 - 這裡0.9

看我一句話讓你remap

Fushimi Rio
Fushimi Rio
来自我那个diff的M4M 虽然我看你还没写

[General]
我不太喜欢sc1的hitnormal 偶尔下几个可以 大片的这个音效把本来挺青春的歌弄得很闷 还是原本的soft好

[Easy]
00:01:595 (2,3) - I prefer remove 2 and let 3 begin at redline.
00:13:970 (1) - shorten the slider. reverse at redline will be better. This can also improve the blanket.
01:18:470 (1) - begin at 01:18:282 - ?
02:22:970 (1) - ^

02:12:470 (1) - looks not good. try this? and don't forget move the latter pattern
rotated anticlockwise 15°
http://puu.sh/fpfDD/778b237a58.jpg
03:00:470 (1) - shorten the slider. let it begin at 03:00:657 -

[Normal]
01:17:532 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/fpgoV/eeb258d6cb.jpg这样好一点 避免吞音
02:43:970 (3) - 加个nc怎么样

[Hard]
00:07:407 (6,1) - 压上了
01:08:157 (2,3,4,5) - 这啥 不要乱搞啊 把4扔到右上边去组个三角形
01:13:032 (3) - 转个60° 现在这略蠢

01:43:595 (7) - 我更倾向于和6摆开 间距和56一样
02:24:095 (3,1) - nc醉人 没必要硬按小节来吧
03:31:595 (3,1) - ^
03:43:595 (3,1) - ^
03:06:095 (3) - 离太近 这个弧度的滑条压头的话干脆叠在2的尾巴上 不然都不太顺
03:24:282 (1) - 和easy一样 红线起

[Insane]
00:23:532 (2,4) - 摆开点 粘着边略蠢
00:34:220 - 这里音乐有鼓点 所以容易读不出你下的空拍 处理一下
00:38:157 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 空拍接这种梗我个人不太舒服 不过你可以参考一下别人的意见 没问题就不用改
01:32:907 (5) - ctrl+g？
02:35:720 (5) - 和前面的跳接不上 卡手
02:37:595 (2) - x232 y26
02:44:157 (2) - 和4压上了

本来想多挑点的 后来想想算了现在的新人也都是sjoy流排列 差不多也能上架吧
我草sjoy怎么就在上面
Last edited by Fushimi Rio , edited 2 times in total.
gorgonzoler
104 posts
Joined March 2013
gorgonzoler
渣渣摸图见谅。（no kudo plz，it don‘t help much）
hello i m gorgonzoler
看了一下前面改了很多瞬间亚历山大，所以这个摸大多数为玩家考虑了一点……
hard
01:12:657 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里作为hard是不是有些略难读图？
01:41:720 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - suddenly low spacing不知道读图会不会别扭一些
OTL…………………………
其实这个版本对我来说已经完美了……
insane
00:29:907 (5,6) - 在我的图被前辈指出过玩家可能分不清滑条首尾的毛病，不知道现在如何？看情况改掉
00:51:470 (1,2) - 这个间隔较大应该没问题……
01:12:282 (3,4,1,4,5,6,9,10,1) - 稍微和前面的三连错开一点重叠效果应该更好（learn from kyshiro）
not big problem for me
（实际上你让我仔细看我也不会看ORZ…………）
Cerulean Veyron
2,090 posts
Joined August 2012
Cerulean Veyron

imoutosan wrote:

[Easy]
00:01:595 (2,3) - I prefer remove 2 and let 3 begin at redline. It might be confusing to beginners, as so an off-beat. So i'll keep this to keep it 'easy' for them.
00:13:970 (1) - shorten the slider. reverse at redline will be better. This can also improve the blanket. Well, few modders said this, so i'll change it.
01:18:470 (1) - begin at 01:18:282 - ? It'd sound off the rhythm, i can hear the vocals starts there, but i don't mainly following vocals as always.
02:22:970 (1) - ^ ^

02:12:470 (1) - looks not good. try this? and don't forget move the latter pattern Okay, will give a try.
rotated anticlockwise 15°
http://puu.sh/fpfDD/778b237a58.jpg
03:00:470 (1) - shorten the slider. let it begin at 03:00:657 - Okay, but not on your suggested rhythm place.
Thanks imoutosan!
http://puu.sh/fpWrR/83bf8d573b.rar
popner
osu! Alumni
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offset -15

从rank图的角度来说，可以想办法rank掉了。但是从排列的整体结构来说，梗的使用的有很多问题。举个例子，00:04:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这段可以算没用梗，跟flow走的；但是紧接着00:06:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 一个四方跳一个对称滑条，都是梗；后面一串都有梗，到了00:10:970 (1) - 又开始没梗跟flow了。这些用梗/随机跟flow排列的切换，并没有对应音乐里的任何东西，因此让人觉得莫名其妙。改进的方法：整理好思路，分段remap。
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  1. 我看了一下，三連大多overmap，除了00:03:282 (4,5) - ，硬加whistle不像snare，並沒有增加打擊感的效果，麻煩有音的地方才放三連，例如00:04:595 (4) -
  2. 節奏給我的印象完全不深刻，只有1/2跟圓圈，還有無腦的三連; 00:13:032 (2) - 背景給我的感覺是延續的，滑條(就算是3/4也合適，其實呢我覺得木吉他的歌曲適合用3/4滑條)才能表達那種感覺，但你選擇了用一個圓圈來停頓，我有點摸不著頭腦；00:07:970 (1,2,3,4) - 這個跳更適用於00:16:032 (2,3,4,5,6) - 鼓點明顯到爆炸了都不跳，還用DS..
  3. 關掉音效聽一次啊從00:16:970 - 開始，第三個白線跟紅線都是地鼓啊，這pattern很明顯，音效最好能capture both軍鼓跟地鼓吧
  4. 00:31:970 - 這里從樂器切換到人聲好不自然，最好就是兩者融合，也不會漏了重音，e.g. 00:34:220 -
  5. 00:54:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 不理解這梗，就我聽，你的音量沒漸進的加大，音樂裡的鼓點也不是漸大，於是我不能理解
  6. 01:49:970 (1,2,3) - 一樣的間距，相異的節奏間隔，也是不能理解
  7. 01:59:907 (5,6,7) - 放連打啊..
  8. 後面不看了，節奏開始看的悶了，排列也差不多(像02:42:470 (1,2,3,4) - 03:12:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 好像用過幾次了?)，這樣不如做TV Size?

    其實我覺得啥四方跳啥對稱滑條都不算梗，對我來說就只是比較整潔的排列 嗯
Kayano
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如果我能把舰娘E5斩掉的话就也来给点建议 没斩掉 伤心了 明天来看
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如果我2nd能起飞的话我也来给个摸
Sellenite
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这歌可以用日本流单点大法233
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Insane
感觉像00:21:282 (5,6,1) - 的whistle三连有点吵 whistle作为点缀音 可以下的地方还是比较多的 我感觉00:22:407 - 下一个就不错
kiai节奏有点乱 kimidayo跟的vocal 后面又跟鼓 然后又vocal反复 这个打起来比较奇怪
01:06:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 随机跳太乱了
折返跳用的有点多
Hard
00:07:407 (6,1) - 尽量避免滑条的遮挡

总之还是整体间距上的一些把握和滑条的使用可以改进 总体作为新人图而言还算是可以接受的水平了 加油
MirinH
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from my q
add full ver to tag
[Veyron's Easy]
  1. 00:13:970 (1) - ... wtf
  2. no drum hit sound for the drums, why?
  3. 00:52:970 (1) - ... the rhythm is weird
  4. 01:07:970 (1) - ds
  5. 01:15:095 (2) - ^
  6. 01:57:470 (1) - this rhythm isnt fitting the music, however 2/1 will be great to use
  7. 02:46:970 (1) - same,the rhythm is not fitting, because the second vocal sound is at 02:47:720 but your rhythm is 02:47:626
[AIR's Normal]
  1. nc有点乱，建议两小节一nc
  2. 00:34:970 (1,2,3) - 你在nm overmap 真的大丈夫？
  3. 00:50:345 (2,3) - 不直
  4. 01:39:470 (5,1) - overlap
  5. 02:19:782 (4,5,6) - 什么鬼节奏
  6. 02:21:470 (1,2,3,4
  7. :o ,5) - ^要跟vocal就跟到底啊你这样是shenmegui
  8. 02:29:532 (2) - 加note，滑条 02:29:720 开始
  9. 02:30:470 (3,4) - ^ 同理，自己推
  10. 02:43:970 (3) - 不nc吗
  11. 02:49:970 (7) - 我觉得这里上finish反而不好，这里比较适合whistle
[Hard]
  1. 你这diff除了kiai音效全部美丽
  2. 真的不适合ar8，ar7.6很好
  3. 00:13:970 (4) - nc
  4. 00:13:970 (4,5,6) - 就这样重复放梗？我觉得第三个的ds怎么书都要比前面的大
  5. 00:52:970 (1,2) - 你这样两个长滑条弄在音乐这么激列的地方真的好吗
  6. 00:54:657 (1,2,3) - ^，这里应该搞一点跳，前面都比这里跳
  7. 01:12:282 (5,3) - 这里吉他没有1/4吧，你在hard就不要这样overmap
  8. 01:33:470 (1,2) - blanket
  9. 02:16:220 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - 对于hard来说很难啊
  10. 02:24:470 (1,3) - overlap
  11. 02:43:970 (5) - 放绿线都不nc？
  12. 02:43:970 (5) - 这之后音乐比前面激烈很多，你跳一点
  13. 03:06:845 (1,2) - hard这样有点难读，毕竟你前面都是1/2spam这里突然停一下，玩家：shenmegui
  14. 03:20:907 (4,1) - ^，还有遮挡，玛雅
  15. 03:22:782 (4,5,6) - 这里没有四分吧
  16. 03:30:095 (3,1) - 这种梗最好不要放
[Insane]
  1. ar8.5
  2. 很多flow不舒服，建议亲自test
  3. 节奏问题一堆，不要突然就来一个1/1或者2/1
  4. 在kiai跳的时候突然来个antijump简直不能玩
  5. 只能用这些东西概括了，我觉得质量还真不行，慢慢改
gl
Fycho
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来自天国的邀请：

稍微说下insane，
用梗和flow处区分不明显，正如泡泡所说那样。
  1. 00:00:470 (1,2) - 这种四个音差不多强度的，避免用两个滑条，你可以用四个单点或者三个单点加一个滑条。滑条尾部的表现力是很弱的，和滑条头完全不能比，你用滑条来表现这里的音乐就显然不合曲子了。类似的地方比如01:01:970 (1,2) - 02:00:470 (1,2) - 02:03:470 (1,2) - 03:01:970 (2,3) - 等等
  2. 00:44:345 (2) - 去掉算了，你既然要跟特定的音轨就少串轨，像00:41:345 - 一样留空拍。00:44:345 (2) - 这些类似的都一样。
  3. 00:48:470 (1,2,3,4) - 这个梗本身flow不是很好，略绕手。将2和4分别ctrl+g换首尾
  4. 00:56:532 - 这里是kiai需要强调的一个音，我建议KIAI里不要设置比如00:56:720 - 00:59:720 - 这些空拍，这些打破了本应具备的连贯性
    。我建议：http://puu.sh/fUsS1/3dad67bbfa.jpg
  5. 01:05:532 (3,4) - 如果想突出这里的停顿感的话建议增加01:05:345 (2,3) - 两者的间距，因为01:05:532 - 这个点音强，需要一个大间距的支持。
  6. 01:06:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这里适合用四个一组交错来回跳的梗，顺flow绕的跳梗不是很好...类似这样（相对位置，非绝对位置）: http://puu.sh/fUty7/ed648ca672.jpg
  7. 01:25:032 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - 外圈正三角形摆摆正
  8. 01:28:970 (1,2,3,4) - 这组梗，从1到3都是角度越来越逆时针，为何3到4不是逆时针而是顺时针偏了很多呢？这就破坏了这个梗。摆个跟我建议在00:48:470 (1,2,3,4) - 类似的梗
  9. 01:45:282 (7) - 虽然知道你要摆这样一个梗，但是7摆这么远从表现音乐上和可玩性上来说不足。这这就导致梗不合曲。设计梗的时候首要考虑其合曲性，再来考虑梗本身的造型
  10. 01:48:470 (4) - 加nc nazi
  11. 02:44:532 (4) - 滑条起了别扭，因为这重音都是在白线，你起了红线滑条的话白线就到表现力十分虚弱、又没打击感的滑条尾了
  12. 02:46:970 (5,1,2,3) - 这几个可以避免用滑条，像之前那样两个两个circle的跳，比如01:57:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
有些跳摆着有点别扭。
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GGFFQQ55
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thanks!
Cerulean Veyron
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Alex Li wrote:

from my q

[Veyron's Easy]
  1. 00:13:970 (1) - ... wtf wot
  2. no drum hit sound for the drums, why? Because to emphasize with song track.
  3. 00:52:970 (1) - ... the rhythm is weird Tried to follow the simple vocals, so that is the results
  4. 01:07:970 (1) - ds Okay
  5. 01:15:095 (2) - ^ Okay
  6. 01:57:470 (1) - this rhythm isnt fitting the music, however 2/1 will be great to use Will give a try
  7. 02:46:970 (1) - same,the rhythm is not fitting, because the second vocal sound is at 02:47:720 but your rhythm is 02:47:626 Okay
gl
Fixed most rhythm, i hope it's okay for now.

http://puu.sh/fWGcR/baec763173.rar
GGFFQQ55
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imoutosan wrote:

来自我那个diff的M4M 虽然我看你还没写

[General]
我不太喜欢sc1的hitnormal 偶尔下几个可以 大片的这个音效把本来挺青春的歌弄得很闷 还是原本的soft好

[Easy]
00:01:595 (2,3) - I prefer remove 2 and let 3 begin at redline.
00:13:970 (1) - shorten the slider. reverse at redline will be better. This can also improve the blanket.
01:18:470 (1) - begin at 01:18:282 - ?
02:22:970 (1) - ^

02:12:470 (1) - looks not good. try this? and don't forget move the latter pattern
rotated anticlockwise 15°
http://puu.sh/fpfDD/778b237a58.jpg
03:00:470 (1) - shorten the slider. let it begin at 03:00:657 -

[Normal]
01:17:532 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/fpgoV/eeb258d6cb.jpg这样好一点 避免吞音
02:43:970 (3) - 加个nc怎么样

[Hard]
00:07:407 (6,1) - 压上了 fixed
01:08:157 (2,3,4,5) - 这啥 不要乱搞啊 把4扔到右上边去组个三角形 说得对，fixed
01:13:032 (3) - 转个60° 现在这略蠢 转60度硬摆的话有点乱。。。

01:43:595 (7) - 我更倾向于和6摆开 间距和56一样 fixed
02:24:095 (3,1) - nc醉人 没必要硬按小节来吧 fixed
03:31:595 (3,1) - ^ 这里好像按小节没啥问题啊？
03:43:595 (3,1) - ^
03:06:095 (3) - 离太近 这个弧度的滑条压头的话干脆叠在2的尾巴上 不然都不太顺 flow好像还行吧，不动了
03:24:282 (1) - 和easy一样 红线起 fixed

[Insane]
00:23:532 (2,4) - 摆开点 粘着边略蠢 fixed
00:34:220 - 这里音乐有鼓点 所以容易读不出你下的空拍 处理一下 思考。。。暂时没想好怎么改
00:38:157 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 空拍接这种梗我个人不太舒服 不过你可以参考一下别人的意见 没问题就不用改 这里的空拍按理来说是读得出来的，可能打着有点困难。。四暗刻
01:32:907 (5) - ctrl+g？ 唔感觉没必要弄个反flow在这儿啊
02:35:720 (5) - 和前面的跳接不上 卡手 这里345间距是统一的啊，应该还可以吧
02:37:595 (2) - x232 y26 fixed
02:44:157 (2) - 和4压上了 ？？没看懂啊

本来想多挑点的 后来想想算了现在的新人也都是sjoy流排列 差不多也能上架吧
我草sjoy怎么就在上面
GGFFQQ55
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gorgonzoler wrote:

渣渣摸图见谅。（no kudo plz，it don‘t help much）
hello i m gorgonzoler
看了一下前面改了很多瞬间亚历山大，所以这个摸大多数为玩家考虑了一点……
hard
01:12:657 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这里作为hard是不是有些略难读图？ 队，但我不知道怎么改了orz
01:41:720 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - suddenly low spacing不知道读图会不会别扭一些 我全程ds啊，不会突然low spacing
OTL…………………………
其实这个版本对我来说已经完美了……
insane
00:29:907 (5,6) - 在我的图被前辈指出过玩家可能分不清滑条首尾的毛病，不知道现在如何？看情况改掉 嗯这小节我要改的，看看后面的摸
00:51:470 (1,2) - 这个间隔较大应该没问题…… 这是1/1嘛
01:12:282 (3,4,1,4,5,6,9,10,1) - 稍微和前面的三连错开一点重叠效果应该更好（learn from kyshiro） 好，我试试看
not big problem for me
（实际上你让我仔细看我也不会看ORZ…………）
GGFFQQ55
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popner wrote:

offset -15

从rank图的角度来说，可以想办法rank掉了。但是从排列的整体结构来说，梗的使用的有很多问题。举个例子，00:04:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这段可以算没用梗，跟flow走的；但是紧接着00:06:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 一个四方跳一个对称滑条，都是梗；后面一串都有梗，到了00:10:970 (1) - 又开始没梗跟flow了。这些用梗/随机跟flow排列的切换，并没有对应音乐里的任何东西，因此让人觉得莫名其妙。改进的方法：整理好思路，分段remap。
好的，明白了。。。这样改起来还真是大工程，在开始做的时候并没有想着让图和音乐对应起来，现在看来还是表现力不够。。。谢谢指点！
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Steph De Chine
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水摸一下

General:
Please rename your MP3 file to anything other than ".mp3".
Change the AudioFilename on the .osu file accordingly.

Easy:
00:00:470 (1,2,3) - Shorten 1 for 1/2 beat and move 2 and 3 forward for 1/2 beat.
00:13:970 (1,2) - Shorten 1 for 1/4 beat, remove New Combo, and remove 2 for some time to relax.
00:19:595 (3) - Remove it for rhythm consistency with 1,2 before.
00:52:595 (4) - Add this for better rhythm flow.
From Kiai time: Better remap... This rhythm - music combination sounds terrible to me.

Normal:
No recommendations available for now... Maybe some later.

Following difficulties: Overall great. Here are some of my opinions, you might not take them.
Hard:
00:56:720 (5,6) - Remove 6 and postpone 5 for 1/2 beat to follow vocal?
00:59:720 (5,6) - Same here and other places.
02:35:345 (3) - Add one circle here?
03:43:970 (1,2) - Remove the New Combo on 1 and set it to 2?

Insane:
02:25:032 (1,2) - Change to 4 Circles?
02:29:532 (3) - Change to just 1 Circle to emphasize the vocal? Or just leave it here to follow the beat.
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Steph De Chine wrote:

Easy:
00:00:470 (1,2,3) - Shorten 1 for 1/2 beat and move 2 and 3 forward for 1/2 beat. I made them 1/1 to keep them a little easy for players to here the song track.
00:13:970 (1,2) - Shorten 1 for 1/4 beat, remove New Combo, and remove 2 for some time to relax. Ehh.. people are complaining about this, so going to change it atm.
00:19:595 (3) - Remove it for rhythm consistency with 1,2 before. I guess this one is fine for the vocals.
00:52:595 (4) - Add this for better rhythm flow.
From Kiai time: Better remap... This rhythm - music combination sounds terrible to me. The Kiai time doesn't look like a big problem here.It looks really fine, as so the other diffs too.
But thanks for the mod, Steph!
http://puu.sh/g7KFF/96248ebff0.rar
Awaken
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有些梗不怎么好

[Insane]
03:27:470 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这种梗打起来很不好 间距靠太近会有flow的别扭感 后面类似的也是一样
03:32:720 (6,7,1) - 这里间距没把握好 3/4和1/2的间距一样很容易误读的
00:28:876 (7,1) - 故意没stack好吗? 感觉stack不stack效果差不多
00:28:407 (6,7) - 这个flow也不怎么推荐 把7移下一点往下调方向一点效果比较好
00:51:470 (1,2) - stack well
02:23:813 其实这个空拍很突然 前面放得满满的突然这里跟空拍音 间距提示也没有 很难打 建议这里放开 红线起个三连

整体感觉间距还没放开 跳的比较别扭 不过已经好很多了 努力拿去rank的话可能可以

Good Luck!
Kamio Misuzu
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[Insane]
大概看了下，感觉你这张图的间距问题影响的不是读图，是排版。打起来其实还是可以。
00:07:595 (5,6) - 类似这种的，玩起来是不影响的，但看着不好看。00:06:095 (5,6) - 这里虽然也一样距离加大了。但是却看上去比顺摆下去的要美观许多。另外00:06:470 (1,1) - 这两个音其实感觉还是不要上面叠note的好，稍微放开点。

00:11:345 (2,3,4) - 00:12:095 (5,6,1) - 这两个其实节奏基本是同一类型。排列还是区别有点大

00:13:595 (3) - 稍有点怪。。说不上来的感觉

00:27:282 - 这地方空的有点莫名其妙。如果你觉得加note不舒服的话就把00:27:095 (5,1) - 弄成个slider。那种过渡的感觉

00:28:876 (7) - 强行overmap。不如直接大白线一个note完事

00:37:970 (1,2,3,4) - 这部分排列感觉很不好看，而且节奏稍有点问题。00:38:907 - 这里这个音太明显了不建议省去。最好重做一下这部分

01:03:470 (1) - 放在5右侧好点

01:00:282 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - flow有点莫名

00:58:220 (4,5,6) - 01:10:220 (3,4,5) - 如果不是曲风需要最好不要用这种180°的flow。像02:01:970 (1,2) - 这种稍有点角度的都会感觉好很多。重要的是前后flow要搭。

01:10:782 (5,1,2,3) - 这里也有点奇怪

01:31:407 (4,1) - 01:31:782 - 这里有拖延那种音不建议留空，01:31:407 - 这里放note，01:31:595 - 开始拉个1/2slider。01:32:157 - 补note

01:37:782 (1,2,3) - 像这种中间很明显的鼓音，不建议停顿。

01:52:032 (4,5) - 红线起手slider一般都比较违和，当然有特殊情况。这里放个note，slider后移吧。01:52:220 - 白线起。简单点说就是01:52:782 (6) - 提到前面来

02:19:970 (1,2) - 这里明显的vocal里sora是一组音。这里用红线起手的slider就感觉不是那么违和了。02:19:970 - 白线放note，02:20:157 - 起手1/2slider。02:20:532 - 补note

02:43:970 (1,5) - 类似的nazi放的时候就注意点，尽量压一起

03:01:970 (1,2,3,4) - 这种的话1和2，3和4 尽量不要贴那么紧，稍微拉开一点距离好看。后面同理其实不太推荐这种顺摆过去的，像laurier图里的那种交错跳感觉好点。像这种曲线摆过去的玩起来会比较乏力，不像那种转角分明，甩起来有感觉。嘛，这里其实不改也行，以后多用用就知道了

03:17:532 (4,5) - 左右间距拉开点，对比一下前后间距，现在靠的有点近。

03:24:282 - 转盘这里就可以开始了。对应歌词的 啦。03:25:970 - 这里结束也可以。个人感觉03:25:970 - 这里这个音还是用note好点，正好03:25:782 - 有个音就让转盘在这里结束吧。当然，懒改的话保持现状也完全ok

03:28:220 (4,5,6,7) - 这里和前面提到的间距问题就不一样，因为有03:27:470 (2,3) - 这两个slider在旁边做映衬，距离很近也不会觉得别扭，这里用就可以。

03:32:720 (6) - 还是红线结尾吧，鼓音太明显，想表现拉长那个音的话把03:33:095 (7) - 拉长至蓝线即可。记得尾巴消音。

废话写了一个多小时。。将就的看看算了。
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General

  1. Insane打开Letterbox.
  2. TAG没有GDer的ID。
  3. Mp3重命名下啊，记得压192.

Insane

  1. 00:13:782 (4) - 叠好。
  2. 00:19:876 (7) - 不必要，加了反而效果不好。(同)
  3. 00:25:970 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 真是随心所欲...我本来以为这段只下鼓节奏，结果00:28:407 (6) - 突然跟了喇叭音...
    要么前面也跟喇叭要么就只下鼓点节奏呀...
  4. 00:38:157 (2,3,4) - 这么下的理由是什么,在三个白线处下1/2滑条不好么.
  5. 00:46:782 (4,5) - 去掉Whistle.
  6. Kiaitime的节奏看似行云流水，其实根本没踩在音乐上...(三个Kiaitime都是)
    00:56:532 (4) - 1/1长滑条下在长音是肯定要有的，这样该紧的地方就会紧起来，长音不下长滑条就是一种很松散的感觉...现在这样打起来都没有“抓住”音乐...顺便长音在大白线瞎塞Finish就好（
  7. 01:14:532 (4,5) - 卡手。
  8. 01:17:532 (4) - 换长滑条，01:17:907 (1,2,3) - 这三个音更重，用相比之前一组排列更大的间距。
  9. 01:30:470 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 同样的问题。
  10. 01:38:157 (2,3) - 既然你用单点停顿来跟人声，那么01:38:720 (4,5) - 的意义何在？音乐里的一部分要用同一种梗啊..
  11. 01:59:720 (4,5,6,7) - 背景音有连打...用单点反而会奇怪。
  12. 02:58:970 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这段全用单点混杂停顿梗效果显然比现在好.
  13. 03:27:845 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 同之前。
  14. 03:33:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 看看...为了摆梗丝毫不突出音乐...
  15. 03:39:470 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

Hard

  1. 00:27:845 (3) - 漏Clap.
    相比较Insane,Hard抓音乐抓得好点...但还是有各种谜之多余节奏。

Air's Normal


  • 红线Whistle下得有点怪...

Veyron's Easy

  1. Use Spinner Start on 00:00:470 - ,End on 00:03:470 - will better than now imo.
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