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pishifat
*plays [Another]
"nice this will be an easy mod!!"
*plays guest diffs

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wow that's really mean. wow
[amystery]
  1. since you're using 2 bar comboing you may want to lower hp drain. right now it's pretty much lower than the insane without those combo finishing hp bursts i dunno what they're even called
  2. 00:08:048 (1,2) - would be cool to do the same thing you did at 00:13:381 (5,6,1) - here. with the current spacing there's no impact on 00:08:715 (1) - cuz everything is following the usual distance snap, yet music is more variable than steady distance snap. would also be good to not underlap 00:09:215 (2) - if doing this cuz having everything overlappingunderlappignconfusing
  3. 00:13:048 (4,5) - not seeing the reason why to use such a large jump over silence. something relatively close to distance snap would be a lot more appropriate
  4. 00:14:048 (1,2) - would be better not to have these on top of each other since there's already this overlapping junk at 00:13:381 (5,6,1) - . looks like a mess with objects above and underneath the head and tail of 1
  5. 00:19:048 (4,5,1) - pretty much same idea as the first thign mentioned -- 00:19:381 (1) - has no impact at all cuz you've just got plain distance snap stuff yet big crash on 1 AAAAAA doing osmething like not distance snap would be guds
  6. 00:24:715 (1,3) - dunno how to explain this but overlap is crap. you can do overlap stuffs but this is kind of not ideal way
  7. 00:48:715 (1,2,1,2,1) - for a hard, these play so damn weirdly. when you or i play, we'd just treat them like hold sliders, but random hard-diff players all follow the actual slider bodies and it flows like a walnut. if you were to ctrl+g 00:49:215 (2) - 00:50:215 (2) - and do something with 00:50:715 (1) - it would be less walnut
  8. 00:57:214 (1) - to the end of the map is spread murder. because of the spacing/sv used here, there's a huge gap between normal and this. spacing wise, everything here is larger in this diff than it is in the insane. sv wise, you've got the exact same settings as the insane for the kiai and higher sv for the stuff after it. for fixing stuff, using a lower sv/ds would be ok. for more spread safety you could convert some of the multi-1/2-circle-things to sliders/gaps like 00:58:880 (6,7) - 01:00:214 (2,3) - 01:02:547 (1,2) - . gl with all that i'll be able to mod the actual content of the section after things are fixed. if spread isn't adjusted then yauxo has no bub from me so dont disappoint yauxo he's a good guy :(
[noz]
  1. 00:18:381 (5,1,2,1) - uhm shouldnt this all be spaced the same as 00:08:048 (1,2,1) - ? spacing between 00:19:048 (2,1) - is especially scrweed up cuz you're relying on those numbers in the top right but they dont work with sv change
  2. 00:33:881 (1,3,4) - would be nice to not have 3 and 4 so close to 1
  3. 00:35:381 (1,2) - better accomplishes intentions
  4. 00:54:214 (2) - would really be nice to not use a passive slider at the peak of the build up. 4 circles would be k
  5. 00:56:380 (1,2,3) - soft sampleset please ;-;
  6. 00:49:715 (1,3) - would really be a lot nicer of the slider's head and tail didn't overlap with each other because of the super extreme curve you've got on it. same curvature as 00:52:381 (3) - would be good
  7. 01:04:714 - super awkward to have a hold slider ending on a strong sound like this. doing like wham good ok
  8. 01:15:880 (1,2,4) - objects here are just... uh... too close to each other. there are countless ways to make it better eaisly so dont need an example or something
  9. 01:17:547 (3) - please it just fits 488x better. current thing has some emphasis on a slider tail i guess
  10. 01:26:547 (1) - don't even know why, but it seems like this would work better if it weren't exactly linear with sliderbody of 01:26:214 (2) - . lowering it is goods
  11. the box
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i really have no idea how to explain this. look at 00:26:715 (3,4,5,1) - as an example. you've got this pattern that you're treating as one continuous flowy thing, yet becuase there's a huge gap between 4 and 5, it doesn't really allow for really smooth flow. when playing, you'll stop around 4*, not continue a fluid motion towards 5. it would make a lot more sense to have a directional change* at this point (which 99% of mappers would do because it just plays better) but you almost always force this painfully awkward movement* where you lose momentum then are forced to gain it. apparently oko tried to tell you about this at one point but i dont know how that went. anyway i can't really force you to change all of these things since it happens a lot and it's technically not unrankable, but just know it is complete shit. all of these could be improved by having some sort of sharper direction change:
*visuals for all things mentioned there
00:16:715 (1,2,3) - 00:25:048 (3,4,5) - 00:26:715 (3,4,5) - 01:01:214 (1,2,3) - 01:11:880 (1,2,3) - 01:14:547 (1,2,3) - 00:14:048 (1,2,3) - 01:05:214 (1,2,3) - 00:50:215 (3,4,1) - 00:51:881 (1,2,3,4,1) -

other places where flow could be improved for other reasons:
  1. 00:46:048 (1,2,3) - slidershape of 3 really just does not work with the way you're moving into it from 1,2. if you were to move it somewehre around like asdf then it may be fine, but right now it's seriously not
  2. 00:58:380 (6,1) - somethinglikethis would work better. angle on slider currently is so weird when moving from those circles
  3. 01:22:547 (1,2,3) - 01:23:880 (1,2,1) - 01:24:547 (1,2,3) - 00:36:548 (1,2,3,4) - all of these could be better by not making the everything linear. doies not work very well when you go from circular motion -> linear motion -> circular motion in the same direction as previous circular motion (so if you wanted to, changing direction of the 2nd circular motion would be acceptableish)
  4. 00:23:048 (5,1) - after such a long chain of things going in a circular motion, having a flowbreak here would be supernice
  5. 00:33:215 (3,4,1) - going from 4 to 1 is pretty awkward since sliderbody of 4 indicates more circular motion of the previous section. doing like not angle would be better or something else that makes it less uh
  6. 00:35:381 (1,2,3) - given up on reasoning at htis point possible alternative with less weird from 2->3

there's also this thing you do a lot that's super minor but hurts. mystery's diff does this in a couple places too and i didn't mention them there but if he's reading this box then good hi
  1. 00:28:381 (3,1,2) - mostly because circles break the way cursor would follow sliderbody. a possible improvement or you could keep the same idea with less gross sliderbodyfollowingthings
  2. 00:26:048 (1,2,3) - bending 1 the other way works fine
even if you don't plan on changing any of these, try to avoid them in later maps. maybe it seems like overmodding or whatever, but just comparing this diff to yauxo's makes it really apparent that one could be a lot better. relative to the average ranked map it's not bad, but relative to yauxo's it is
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did multiple buttloads of things with yauxo in irc

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prologue
xxxx-xx-xx xx:xx pishifat: let me rank map
xxxx-xx-xx xx:xx Yauxo: ok

day 1 - pishi fixes timing kind of and yauxo rejects other timing

2015-02-02 17:10 Yauxo: u can redl
2015-02-02 17:14 pishifat: oh its done
2015-02-02 17:14 pishifat: k
2015-02-02 17:15 Yauxo: dont kill my diff pls
2015-02-02 17:16 pishifat: before that
2015-02-02 17:16 pishifat: why does that third offset thing
2015-02-02 17:16 pishifat: reset overall offset by 10ms
2015-02-02 17:17 pishifat: like is there a reason
2015-02-02 17:17 Yauxo: i have no idea, but I think i remember this being >something<
2015-02-02 17:18 pishifat: it sounds more like first offset is late and second is early
2015-02-02 17:18 pishifat: and you are making them equal by having half of song late and half early
2015-02-02 17:18 pishifat: i dont think thats how this works
2015-02-02 17:19 Yauxo: I think this is the reason http://puu.sh/foJvP/324e07a753.jpg
2015-02-02 17:19 Yauxo: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/426542 sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Inner Oni]]
2015-02-02 17:19 Yauxo: this is where i got my stuff from
2015-02-02 17:20 pishifat: i will research
2015-02-02 17:20 pishifat: in my handy dandy wafelength machine
2015-02-02 17:20 pishifat: wafe
2015-02-02 17:20 pishifat: wave
2015-02-02 17:20 Yauxo: waffellength
2015-02-02 17:21 pishifat: yea
2015-02-02 17:21 pishifat: it's bs
2015-02-02 17:21 pishifat: random waffleform from beginning lines up with one from end at steady bpm
2015-02-02 17:22 Yauxo: hm
2015-02-02 17:23 pishifat: is there objection to http://i.gyazo.com/bb2dd48e7f1bc4813cc94c5e6d115f59.png
2015-02-02 17:24 Yauxo: yes
2015-02-02 17:24 Yauxo: apply offsets, listen to 00:14:053 (1) -
2015-02-02 17:25 Yauxo: wait
2015-02-02 17:25 Yauxo: my bad
2015-02-02 17:25 Yauxo: 15 =/=51
2015-02-02 17:25 pishifat: gg
2015-02-02 17:27 Yauxo: okay, let me apply to all diffs
2015-02-02 17:28 Yauxo: -5 and +5
2015-02-02 17:28 pishifat: yeps
2015-02-02 17:33 Yauxo: yay update magic
2015-02-02 17:33 pishifat: sdfa
2015-02-02 17:34 pishifat: redownloading with el video
2015-02-02 17:34 pishifat: expect it to be done in years because internet is bad
2015-02-02 17:34 Yauxo: stuck on 11% though
2015-02-02 17:34 Yauxo: :v
2015-02-02 17:34 pishifat: o
2015-02-02 17:34 pishifat: welp
2015-02-02 17:34 pishifat: will wait til you're done to redl then
2015-02-02 17:34 Yauxo: ah, now
2015-02-02 17:34 Yauxo: ill tell u
2015-02-02 17:35 Yauxo: k
2015-02-02 17:35 Yauxo: updated
2015-02-02 17:39 pishifat: the struggle http://www.speedtest.net/result/4111620268.png
2015-02-02 17:39 Yauxo: that ping though
2015-02-02 17:40 pishifat: it's like i have good internet
2015-02-02 17:40 pishifat: but then it tells me right after that i dont :(
2015-02-02 17:40 Yauxo: mine isnt that good either
2015-02-02 17:41 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/foMob/f24569ab71.jpg
2015-02-02 17:41 pishifat: still more than twice as good as mine ;-;
2015-02-02 17:43 Yauxo: it was worse a year ago ;w;
2015-02-02 17:43 Yauxo: 200 kb/s max
2015-02-02 17:43 Yauxo: yiss
2015-02-02 17:43 pishifat: well been downloading for 10 minutes
2015-02-02 17:43 pishifat: almost done
2015-02-02 17:43 Yauxo: hype
2015-02-02 17:44 pishifat: got a video just so i can disable it
2015-02-02 17:45 pishifat: u forgot the timng omg http://i.gyazo.com/6222be9e722273cf4443d4e278f6c3b1.png
2015-02-02 17:45 pishifat: is that 24 mb limit not limited anymore
2015-02-02 17:46 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/foN5H/f4e980a94d.png
2015-02-02 17:47 pishifat: lust better not be lying
2015-02-02 17:48 Yauxo: #blameLust
2015-02-02 17:48 pishifat: what hitsounds was i supposed to do
2015-02-02 17:48 Yauxo: idk u said they bad
2015-02-02 17:48 Yauxo: oh
2015-02-02 17:48 Yauxo: wait
2015-02-02 17:48 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/foNmf/a7e9348a91.png
2015-02-02 17:50 pishifat: http://puu.sh/foNCt/6bb3b98e08.wav soft hit clap
2015-02-02 17:52 pishifat: http://puu.sh/foNP1/71a93111bd.wav normal clap
2015-02-02 17:52 pishifat: http://puu.sh/foNQl/2d6847b16d.wav normal clap 2
2015-02-02 17:54 pishifat: preview point unsnapped :(
2015-02-02 17:54 Yauxo: ffffffffff
2015-02-02 17:55 Yauxo: fixed these
2015-02-02 17:56 Yauxo: not gonna update because I KNOW that something else will come
2015-02-02 17:56 pishifat: .
2015-02-02 17:56 pishifat: still not convinced that the first two red lines being correct
2015-02-02 17:56 pishifat: so i will see what oko was thinking
2015-02-02 17:56 Yauxo: because NC mod
2015-02-02 17:56 Yauxo: and finishes
2015-02-02 17:56 Yauxo: blahrq
2015-02-02 17:57 pishifat: 00:54:381 (1,1) - sketch
2015-02-02 17:57 pishifat: not gonna say to change it
2015-02-02 17:57 pishifat: but sketch
2015-02-02 17:57 Yauxo: wat
2015-02-02 17:57 pishifat: ya know
2015-02-02 17:57 pishifat: the gapness
2015-02-02 17:58 Yauxo: 297 -> 214
2015-02-02 17:58 Yauxo: asdf
2015-02-02 17:58 Yauxo: if a QATs gonna be like
2015-02-02 17:58 Yauxo: yo thats ~100 ms u suck
2015-02-02 17:58 Yauxo: imma throw evil words at him
2015-02-02 17:58 pishifat: 100
2015-02-02 17:58 Yauxo: and be mean to him
2015-02-02 17:58 pishifat: you mean
2015-02-02 17:58 pishifat: 600
2015-02-02 17:59 Yauxo: wat
2015-02-02 17:59 Yauxo: since when is easy 1500
2015-02-02 17:59 pishifat: since that one page i looked at
2015-02-02 17:59 pishifat: the one you know t/241019/start=0
2015-02-02 17:59 pishifat: i'll ask someone about it
2015-02-02 17:59 Yauxo: pff
2015-02-02 18:00 pishifat: there's always the solution of
2015-02-02 18:00 pishifat: big ass slider
2015-02-02 18:00 Yauxo: Im not gonna big as slider
2015-02-02 18:00 Yauxo: because that's stupid
2015-02-02 18:00 pishifat: kihhou does those on all his easy diffs instead of spinners and they work
2015-02-02 18:00 Yauxo: ass*
2015-02-02 18:00 pishifat: if people say spinner is bad you gonna have to slide probably
2015-02-02 18:01 Yauxo: RC is getting dumber every day
2015-02-02 18:01 Yauxo: ugh
2015-02-02 18:01 pishifat: ez is k besides that
2015-02-02 18:02 pishifat: 00:10:380 (4,1) -
2015-02-02 18:02 pishifat: on normal
2015-02-02 18:02 pishifat: saw a map get dq'd for this
2015-02-02 18:02 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/fnIfd/429f14d870.jpg
2015-02-02 18:02 pishifat: distance spacing based map with lower spacing for a gap but both objects on screen at once
2015-02-02 18:02 Yauxo: not even visible
2015-02-02 18:03 pishifat: is visible tho
2015-02-02 18:03 Yauxo: Normal players wont read AR10ish differences
2015-02-02 18:03 Yauxo: im not gonna put it there http://puu.sh/foPln/cc79cda6f4.jpg
2015-02-02 18:04 pishifat: that would be worse obviously
2015-02-02 18:04 Yauxo: i can get it up to 0.88
2015-02-02 18:04 Yauxo: with moving the one before
2015-02-02 18:04 pishifat: do that then
2015-02-02 18:04 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/foPuP/ffe905741e.jpg
2015-02-02 18:05 pishifat: will be better
2015-02-02 18:05 pishifat: right now is exact same spacing as 00:09:214 (2,3) -
2015-02-02 18:05 pishifat: so ya
2015-02-02 18:06 Yauxo: the playfield just isnt big enough for 1.0 DS thingies with breaks like this
2015-02-02 18:06 Yauxo: people gotta be less nazi
2015-02-02 18:07 pishifat: cant mod without naziism
2015-02-02 18:07 pishifat: normal is k then
2015-02-02 18:07 Yauxo: k
2015-02-02 18:11 pishifat: ok this is stupid
2015-02-02 18:12 pishifat: 00:27:214 (4) - you hear how off this is
2015-02-02 18:12 pishifat: why do that
2015-02-02 18:12 pishifat: @song
2015-02-02 18:12 pishifat: why song do that
2015-02-02 18:12 Yauxo: eheh
2015-02-02 18:13 Yauxo: the timing master has failed
2015-02-02 18:13 pishifat: but it's fine after that ;-;
2015-02-02 18:21 Yauxo: iam not the timing master
2015-02-02 18:21 Yauxo: u tell me whats wrong
2015-02-02 18:21 Yauxo: D:
2015-02-02 18:21 pishifat: nothing is wrong in diff
2015-02-02 18:21 pishifat: except that
2015-02-02 18:22 Yauxo: u tell me what do
2015-02-02 18:22 pishifat: doing
2015-02-02 18:24 Yauxo: do i 1/16
2015-02-02 18:25 pishifat: lol
2015-02-02 18:36 pishifat: so
2015-02-02 18:37 pishifat: would you say you're following that wood sound
2015-02-02 18:37 pishifat: or the high pitch bell thing
2015-02-02 18:37 pishifat: at 00:27:881 (3) -
2015-02-02 18:37 Yauxo: wood
2015-02-02 18:42 pishifat: dont overwrite it
2015-02-02 18:42 pishifat: but at least listen to http://puu.sh/foUzv/d1e6c71c24.mp3
2015-02-02 18:42 pishifat: and see if it is acceptable
2015-02-02 18:43 pishifat: some people get pissy if i do this so i dunno what youll think
2015-02-02 18:46 Yauxo: whats changed
2015-02-02 18:46 pishifat: 00:27:214 (4,1,2,3) -
2015-02-02 18:46 Yauxo: just that one thing?
2015-02-02 18:46 pishifat: ya
2015-02-02 18:47 Yauxo: i guess I could use it if theres no other way
2015-02-02 18:47 pishifat: other way would be snapping things to 1/6 or something
2015-02-02 18:47 pishifat: it's like 00:24:881 (2) -
2015-02-02 18:47 pishifat: they took out the first ssound
2015-02-02 18:50 Yauxo: so I kinda did this now http://puu.sh/foVGv/e46d388d0f.jpg
2015-02-02 18:50 Yauxo: in 1/16
2015-02-02 18:50 Yauxo: first one by 2, rest by 1
2015-02-02 18:52 pishifat: i mean it works
2015-02-02 18:52 pishifat: but it is still like
2015-02-02 18:52 pishifat: you see something snapped not on 1/2
2015-02-02 18:52 pishifat: insta suspicious
2015-02-02 18:52 Yauxo: thats the thing
2015-02-02 18:52 Yauxo: but i mean
2015-02-02 18:52 Yauxo: it'
2015-02-02 18:52 Yauxo: is
2015-02-02 18:52 Yauxo: pretty much right
2015-02-02 18:53 Yauxo: thats the song
2015-02-02 18:54 Yauxo: i also made 1 1/16 longer
2015-02-02 18:54 Yauxo: damn this part
2015-02-02 18:54 pishifat: .
2015-02-02 18:54 pishifat: was about to say do that
2015-02-02 18:54 pishifat: well i have my two things to ask about whenever i see a qat
2015-02-02 18:55 Yauxo: So that part is now: 4 moved by 2/16th, 1 moved by 1/16th, 1/16th longer, 2 and 3 moved by 1/16th
2015-02-02 18:55 Yauxo: should i update
2015-02-02 18:55 pishifat: yo ucould
2015-02-02 18:55 pishifat: im not bubbling now or anything
2015-02-02 18:55 pishifat: cuz still have to mod the gds
2015-02-02 18:55 Yauxo: k
2015-02-02 18:56 pishifat: oh
2015-02-02 18:56 pishifat: also od so low
2015-02-02 18:56 pishifat: makes sad
2015-02-02 18:57 Yauxo: 8
2015-02-02 18:57 Yauxo: u happy
2015-02-02 18:57 pishifat: very
2015-02-02 18:58 Yauxo: if only I could update
2015-02-02 18:58 Yauxo: thatd be great
2015-02-02 19:00 Yauxo: updates
2015-02-02 19:00 Yauxo: d
2015-02-02 19:01 pishifat: time to consult big deals
2015-02-02 19:02 Yauxo: people said that the spinner thing is a "guideline" until the new RC is done
2015-02-02 19:03 pishifat: qats are my ranking criteria
2015-02-02 19:04 pishifat: only standard bat online is garven
2015-02-02 19:04 pishifat: im gonna die
2015-02-02 19:04 pishifat: if he is online that is
2015-02-02 19:04 pishifat: he's in his invisible state
2015-02-02 19:04 Yauxo: yes
2015-02-02 19:04 pishifat: welp
2015-02-02 19:04 pishifat: just went off
2015-02-02 19:05 pishifat: or not
2015-02-02 19:05 pishifat: he's on phone
2015-02-02 19:05 Yauxo: plottwists
2015-02-02 19:06 pishifat: so it's expew or mmzz
2015-02-02 19:07 Yauxo: take ur time
2015-02-02 19:07 Yauxo: imma sleep in a sec

day 2 - yauxo is thirsty and pishi makes up bs excuse

2015-02-03 12:00 Yauxo: so wat with that mod
2015-02-03 12:12 pishifat: df
2015-02-03 12:12 pishifat: soon
2015-02-03 12:13 Yauxo: zz whats that attitude
2015-02-03 12:13 Yauxo: pishibar
2015-02-03 12:13 Yauxo: more like pishifat
2015-02-03 12:13 Yauxo: ba*
2015-02-03 12:13 pishifat: jokes dont work with typos :(
2015-02-03 12:13 pishifat: also at school so hard to do things with thinking
2015-02-03 12:14 pishifat: mapping = no thinking involved
2015-02-03 12:16 Yauxo: my ass dont work with typos
2015-02-03 12:18 pishifat: you're a typo
2015-02-03 12:18 pishifat: afk time

day 3 - yauxo slowly realizes 1/16 rhythms are retarded and accepts timing from day 1

2015-02-04 14:59 Yauxo: scrub, tell me
2015-02-04 14:59 Yauxo: whats up nao
2015-02-04 14:59 pishifat: sup
2015-02-04 15:00 Yauxo: slap the shit out of the heaven
2015-02-04 15:04 pishifat: are they using your hitsounds
2015-02-04 15:04 pishifat: pls say yes
2015-02-04 15:04 Yauxo: yes
2015-02-04 15:04 pishifat: ty
2015-02-04 15:04 pishifat: i can ignore them
2015-02-04 15:19 pishifat: why do people do this http://i.gyazo.com/8488f535f73302c1a2e7527d0f46a5c4.png
2015-02-04 15:19 Yauxo: "omg so cool"
2015-02-04 15:19 Yauxo: D:
2015-02-04 15:20 pishifat: did u know sliders can curve???? let me curve it past the point where it looks like a curve !!
2015-02-04 15:20 Yauxo: can they?
2015-02-04 15:20 Yauxo: oh dayum
2015-02-04 15:21 Yauxo: i gotta abuse this
2015-02-04 15:21 Yauxo: HEY DID U SEE
2015-02-04 15:21 Yauxo: I CAN SHAPE THE SLIDER
2015-02-04 15:21 Yauxo: LIKE A CIRCLE
2015-02-04 15:21 Yauxo: WAEIUKJGAHIUGH
2015-02-04 15:22 pishifat: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2689441
2015-02-04 15:22 pishifat: hollow wings knew
2015-02-04 15:22 Yauxo: but but
2015-02-04 15:22 Yauxo: I wanted to call it the Yauxonian Slider
2015-02-04 15:22 Yauxo: :c
2015-02-04 15:22 pishifat: too bad hollow wings is better than you
2015-02-04 15:23 Yauxo: rip my feelings
2015-02-04 15:23 pishifat: are you gonna update noz's diff
2015-02-04 15:23 Yauxo: yes, sec
2015-02-04 15:25 Yauxo: 11%
2015-02-04 15:25 Yauxo: the struggle
2015-02-04 15:25 Yauxo: brb
2015-02-04 15:27 Yauxo: did
2015-02-04 15:34 pishifat: so um
2015-02-04 15:34 pishifat: you know how retarded snapping things
2015-02-04 15:34 pishifat: woudl need to do that in other diffs too
2015-02-04 15:34 pishifat: just use the mp3 and save yourself
2015-02-04 15:35 Yauxo: thats like
2015-02-04 15:35 Yauxo: 1 minute to change the thing
2015-02-04 15:36 pishifat: but then i have to check with people if it's ok ;-;
2015-02-04 15:36 Yauxo: thats what the song is ;w;
2015-02-04 15:36 Yauxo: uuuugh
2015-02-04 15:36 Yauxo: isit same offset and shit?
2015-02-04 15:36 pishifat: ya
2015-02-04 15:36 pishifat: do you need link
2015-02-04 15:36 Yauxo: pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
2015-02-04 15:37 Yauxo: meh okay
2015-02-04 15:37 Yauxo: yes
2015-02-04 15:38 pishifat: http://puu.sh/ftWSl/bb25ec17c3.mp3 good choiceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2015-02-04 15:41 Yauxo: want me to remove hitsound diff?
2015-02-04 15:42 pishifat: might as well
2015-02-04 15:42 pishifat: i have nothing to say about hitsounds
2015-02-04 15:42 Yauxo: u said u hate them
2015-02-04 15:43 pishifat: silent hate
2015-02-04 15:43 Yauxo: lazy hate
2015-02-04 15:45 Yauxo: uppd
2015-02-04 15:46 pishifat: dont think you have to update every time something's changed ._.
2015-02-04 15:46 pishifat: cuz time to change more
2015-02-04 15:46 Yauxo: i have nothing to do anywayx
2015-02-04 15:47 pishifat: i have confirmed with the oko
2015-02-04 15:47 pishifat: that he's retarded
2015-02-04 15:47 pishifat: 00:08:047 - is where first red line should go
2015-02-04 15:47 pishifat: with bar line omitted in style tab
2015-02-04 15:47 Yauxo: wat
2015-02-04 15:48 pishifat: do it and if map gets dq'd shoot me
2015-02-04 15:48 Yauxo: dood
2015-02-04 15:48 Yauxo: 00:08:048 (1) -
2015-02-04 15:48 Yauxo: wait
2015-02-04 15:48 Yauxo: what do we do
2015-02-04 15:48 Yauxo: iam confused
2015-02-04 15:48 pishifat: sadfdsfd
2015-02-04 15:48 Yauxo: remove second red?
2015-02-04 15:48 pishifat: 48 is correct
2015-02-04 15:48 pishifat: not 47
2015-02-04 15:48 pishifat: put the red line there
2015-02-04 15:48 Yauxo: wait
2015-02-04 15:48 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/a42ce3347a634ae4c3ba0ca6259fb68b.png
2015-02-04 15:48 pishifat: should look like that
2015-02-04 15:50 Yauxo: let me compute
2015-02-04 15:50 pishifat: 1kb of ram
2015-02-04 15:51 Yauxo: iam lagging
2015-02-04 15:51 Yauxo: change what http://puu.sh/ftYEP/723dfa70c2.jpg
2015-02-04 15:51 pishifat: red line
2015-02-04 15:51 pishifat: on left
2015-02-04 15:51 pishifat: go where green (1) is
2015-02-04 15:51 Yauxo: k
2015-02-04 15:51 pishifat: then f6
2015-02-04 15:51 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/a34ae14a92639cd99590b1ce0366c32b.png
2015-02-04 15:51 pishifat: omit bar line on left
2015-02-04 15:51 pishifat: for that first red
2015-02-04 15:52 pishifat: also hello unrankable issue in random map
2015-02-04 15:52 Yauxo: wow
2015-02-04 15:52 Yauxo: taiko nazui
2015-02-04 15:53 Yauxo: so i check dis
2015-02-04 15:53 Yauxo: and i done
2015-02-04 15:53 Yauxo: ?
2015-02-04 15:53 pishifat: yes
2015-02-04 15:53 pishifat: should be
2015-02-04 15:53 Yauxo: k
2015-02-04 15:54 Yauxo: ok
2015-02-04 15:54 Yauxo: did in all diffs
2015-02-04 15:54 pishifat: why'd you rename the mp3 ;-;
2015-02-04 15:54 pishifat: forced redownload for one measure of broken
2015-02-04 15:55 Yauxo: i didnt rename
2015-02-04 15:56 Yauxo: you see that "+"?
2015-02-04 15:56 Yauxo: yea
2015-02-04 15:56 Yauxo: your fault
2015-02-04 15:56 pishifat: puush's fault
2015-02-04 15:56 Yauxo: peppy >:c
2015-02-04 15:56 pishifat: will eternal download happening
2015-02-04 15:56 pishifat: gonna get cereal for now
2015-02-04 15:57 Yauxo: eternal download
2015-02-04 15:57 Yauxo: wats dat
2015-02-04 15:58 pishifat: download at speed of your computing
2015-02-04 15:59 Yauxo: maybe
2015-02-04 16:20 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/fu2Bp/8dccc351c4.jpg didnt see that in a long while
2015-02-04 16:21 pishifat: good thing it's not going in the way some people do it
2015-02-04 16:21 pishifat: like against slider flow
2015-02-04 16:22 pishifat: http://puu.sh/fu2Vn/da606f64f2.jpg worst
2015-02-04 16:22 Yauxo: know whats the worst part of this?
2015-02-04 16:23 Yauxo: t/86329 -> http://puu.sh/fu323/1fd642da81.jpg
2015-02-04 16:23 pishifat: la cataline can smd
2015-02-04 16:23 Yauxo: thanks
2015-02-04 16:24 pishifat: do you like that screenshot i showed
2015-02-04 16:24 Yauxo: i fucking love these btw http://puu.sh/fu3ap/6e97e151b4.jpg
2015-02-04 16:24 pishifat: those are good
2015-02-04 16:24 Yauxo: then u gonna like my new map
2015-02-04 16:24 pishifat: tres bien
2015-02-04 16:24 Yauxo: unless youre one of those guys that hate 3/4s
2015-02-04 16:25 pishifat: 3/4 is k
2015-02-04 16:25 pishifat: i dont know how to do it very well tho
2015-02-04 16:25 pishifat: so never use
2015-02-04 16:26 Yauxo: so did eternal download happen
2015-02-04 16:26 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/fu3wL/60c17bc634.osz btw
2015-02-04 16:27 pishifat: it did
2015-02-04 16:27 pishifat: essay happened too
2015-02-04 16:28 pishifat: also just noticing now
2015-02-04 16:28 Yauxo: school
2015-02-04 16:28 Yauxo: eew
2015-02-04 16:28 pishifat: widescreen support is in all diffs except easy/normal
2015-02-04 16:28 pishifat: very eww
2015-02-04 16:28 pishifat: eew*
2015-02-04 16:28 Yauxo: pfff
2015-02-04 16:32 pishifat: this rhythm mapping in bottom corner
2015-02-04 16:32 pishifat: makes me think its always part fo the map
2015-02-04 16:32 Yauxo: lol
2015-02-04 16:32 Yauxo: i cant place it outside the map anymore
2015-02-04 16:32 Yauxo: so i have to grid it
2015-02-04 16:37 Yauxo: i have an update on noz diff and I dont know what I did
2015-02-04 16:37 Yauxo: fuck
2015-02-04 16:37 Yauxo: all we fixed on that was red line and taiko
2015-02-04 16:37 Yauxo: rite?
2015-02-04 16:39 pishifat: yep
2015-02-04 16:39 pishifat: and 00:32:264 (2,1) - on milky
2015-02-04 16:39 pishifat: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2689757
2015-02-04 16:39 pishifat: dont think you acn do that
2015-02-04 16:40 Yauxo: are people really gonna shit on that
2015-02-04 16:40 Yauxo: cant we just unrank all skystar diffs because of that?
2015-02-04 16:40 pishifat: i think skystar avoids that stuff
2015-02-04 16:41 Yauxo: goddamnit
2015-02-04 16:43 Yauxo: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/205309
2015-02-04 16:43 Yauxo: look at this
2015-02-04 16:43 Yauxo: w/o looking at the mapper
2015-02-04 16:43 Yauxo: tell me how many maps you think this guy has ranked
2015-02-04 16:43 pishifat: i modded one of his maps before
2015-02-04 16:44 pishifat: was on a collab diff
2015-02-04 16:44 pishifat: he rejected everything
2015-02-04 16:44 pishifat: then he was kicked from the collab B)
2015-02-04 16:44 Yauxo: that was the one with the curvy sliders
2015-02-04 16:44 Yauxo: i thought it was ranked as a first timer's
2015-02-04 16:45 pishifat: he literally copy pastes the end :(
2015-02-04 16:45 Yauxo: he has
2015-02-04 16:45 Yauxo: hold your seat
2015-02-04 16:45 Yauxo: 13 ranked maps
2015-02-04 16:45 Yauxo: and this is his newest
2015-02-04 16:46 pishifat: blacklsit from ranked category
2015-02-04 16:46 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/fu68V/93cce3ea23.jpg
2015-02-04 16:46 Yauxo: OH GOD WHY
2015-02-04 16:46 pishifat: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442243 Subformat - More (feat. Charli Brix)]
2015-02-04 16:46 pishifat: this was map he had a part on
2015-02-04 16:46 pishifat: ti was mapped just like his other crap
2015-02-04 16:46 pishifat: you can see how it wouldnt fit
2015-02-04 16:48 Yauxo: first beat 25% in
2015-02-04 16:48 Yauxo: k
2015-02-04 16:48 pishifat: only matters if at the end
2015-02-04 16:49 pishifat: for whatever reason
2015-02-04 16:50 pishifat: i need to essay
2015-02-04 16:50 pishifat: hard with osu open dfsdf

day 4 - yauxo is forced to make an ugly slider

2015-02-05 16:01 Yauxo: how did your essay go
2015-02-05 16:01 pishifat: ty
2015-02-05 16:01 pishifat: i have to turn that in
2015-02-05 16:01 pishifat: by 59 minutes from now
2015-02-05 16:01 pishifat: and i ignored it somehow
2015-02-05 16:01 Yauxo: A+
2015-02-05 16:01 Yauxo: I smell it
2015-02-05 16:14 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/420499b44936ef498334d0a6da8c683c.png
2015-02-05 16:14 pishifat: ur fucked
2015-02-05 16:18 Yauxo: spacing hell begins again
2015-02-05 16:21 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/fwJvR/0f415a8432.jpg
2015-02-05 16:22 pishifat: nc pls
2015-02-05 16:23 pishifat: is k otherwise
2015-02-05 16:23 Yauxo: did
2015-02-05 16:23 Yauxo: whats with gds
2015-02-05 16:44 pishifat: a mystery
2015-02-05 16:44 pishifat: is not going to like what i have to say
2015-02-05 16:44 pishifat: noz is pretty ok
2015-02-05 16:44 pishifat: even tho map is eh
2015-02-05 16:45 Yauxo: has some weird spacings here and there
2015-02-05 16:45 pishifat: which
2015-02-05 16:45 Yauxo: noz
2015-02-05 16:46 pishifat: didnt really look too closely at it but that is possible
2015-02-05 16:46 pishifat: i do know that spacing in a mystery's past kiai
2015-02-05 16:46 pishifat: creates major gap between normal and hard
2015-02-05 16:46 Yauxo: i didnt really check the gds too much
2015-02-05 16:47 pishifat: spacing like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2696641
2015-02-05 16:47 pishifat: for entirety of second half of song
2015-02-05 16:47 pishifat: :(

still need to confirm that video size is rankable cuz the only qat i know has no idea
Topic Starter
Yauxo

pishifat wrote:

still need to confirm that video size is rankable cuz the only qat i know has no idea
Lust said is k

pishifat wrote:

2015-02-04 15:47 pishifat: i have confirmed with the oko
2015-02-04 15:47 pishifat: that he's retarded
Okoratu
,
Topic Starter
Yauxo

Okoratu wrote:

,
A Mystery

pishifat wrote:

*plays [Another]
"nice this will be an easy mod!!"
*plays guest diffs

.......
..




wow that's really mean. wow - You forgot the ">" brah
Also I'm still trying to get better at mapping :P I know it's not that good yet

[amystery]
  1. since you're using 2 bar comboing you may want to lower hp drain. right now it's pretty much lower than the insane without those combo finishing hp bursts i dunno what they're even called - Changed to 5
  2. 00:08:048 (1,2) - would be cool to do the same thing you did at 00:13:381 (5,6,1) - here. with the current spacing there's no impact on 00:08:715 (1) - cuz everything is following the usual distance snap, yet music is more variable than steady distance snap. would also be good to not underlap 00:09:215 (2) - if doing this cuz having everything overlappingunderlappignconfusing - Another BAT just told me to remove the antijump :( but I trust you bby <3 No I liked the antijump anyway so if you think it's not a problem I will re add it.
  3. 00:13:048 (4,5) - not seeing the reason why to use such a large jump over silence. something relatively close to distance snap would be a lot more appropriate - Aight
  4. 00:14:048 (1,2) - would be better not to have these on top of each other since there's already this overlapping junk at 00:13:381 (5,6,1) - . looks like a mess with objects above and underneath the head and tail of 1 - ok
  5. 00:19:048 (4,5,1) - pretty much same idea as the first thign mentioned -- 00:19:381 (1) - has no impact at all cuz you've just got plain distance snap stuff yet big crash on 1 AAAAAA doing osmething like not distance snap would be guds - Sure, and I know. But I usually just map strongly to the DS in a Hard, maybe that's no a good idea
  6. 00:24:715 (1,3) - dunno how to explain this but overlap is crap. you can do overlap stuffs but this is kind of not ideal way - Kinda repositioned things here, I hope this is better, and the overlap does look like crap.
  7. 00:48:715 (1,2,1,2,1) - for a hard, these play so damn weirdly. when you or i play, we'd just treat them like hold sliders, but random hard-diff players all follow the actual slider bodies and it flows like a walnut. if you were to ctrl+g 00:49:215 (2) - 00:50:215 (2) - and do something with 00:50:715 (1) - it would be less walnut - I tried
  8. 00:57:214 (1) - to the end of the map is spread murder. because of the spacing/sv used here, there's a huge gap between normal and this. spacing wise, everything here is larger in this diff than it is in the insane. sv wise, you've got the exact same settings as the insane for the kiai and higher sv for the stuff after it. for fixing stuff, using a lower sv/ds would be ok. for more spread safety you could convert some of the multi-1/2-circle-things to sliders/gaps like 00:58:880 (6,7) - 01:00:214 (2,3) - 01:02:547 (1,2) - . gl with all that i'll be able to mod the actual content of the section after things are fixed. if spread isn't adjusted then yauxo has no bub from me so dont disappoint yauxo he's a good guy :( - I remapped (more like readjusted) the entire kiai to SV x1.1 and DS x1.3. I think I did it in the right way and. Also, I think those 1/1 gaps are fine in certain places, but I like to avoid them. i didn't change the rhythms because I honestly like them.

there's also this thing you do a lot that's super minor but hurts. mystery's diff does this in a couple places too and i didn't mention them there but if he's reading this box then good hi - hi
  1. 00:28:381 (3,1,2) - mostly because circles break the way cursor would follow sliderbody. a possible improvement or you could keep the same idea with less gross sliderbodyfollowingthings
  2. 00:26:048 (1,2,3) - bending 1 the other way works fine
even if you don't plan on changing any of these, try to avoid them in later maps. maybe it seems like overmodding or whatever, but just comparing this diff to yauxo's makes it really apparent that one could be a lot better. relative to the average ranked map it's not bad, but relative to yauxo's it is[/spoilerbox]
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These are the things that I usually don't really care about, but I completely understand what you mean. In my eyes this isn't overmodding, and it's your way to do it and it helps out a lot. I try to keep things like these in my mind, but often I am not really bothered by it in the first place.
Kinda because of Yauxo I didn't get all pissed of, and all of your suggestions make sense, you just seem to be so...strict about things.
I changed everything also because both I don't want to be a bother for Yauxo, and they seem like good suggestions to me.


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if I made a minor mistake with this mod (like hitsounds that disappeared) please tell me :(
Nozhomi

pishifat wrote:

*plays [Another]
"nice this will be an easy mod!!"
*plays guest diffs

.......
..




wow that's really mean. wow - Yes it is ;w;

[noz]
  1. 00:18:381 (5,1,2,1) - uhm shouldnt this all be spaced the same as 00:08:048 (1,2,1) - ? spacing between 00:19:048 (2,1) - is especially scrweed up cuz you're relying on those numbers in the top right but they dont work with sv change - Fix
  2. 00:33:881 (1,3,4) - would be nice to not have 3 and 4 so close to 1 - Fix
  3. 00:35:381 (1,2) - better accomplishes intentions - No idea what you mean here :/
  4. 00:54:214 (2) - would really be nice to not use a passive slider at the peak of the build up. 4 circles would be k - Fix
  5. 00:56:380 (1,2,3) - soft sampleset please ;-; - Fix
  6. 00:49:715 (1,3) - would really be a lot nicer of the slider's head and tail didn't overlap with each other because of the super extreme curve you've got on it. same curvature as 00:52:381 (3) - would be good - Fix
  7. 01:04:714 - super awkward to have a hold slider ending on a strong sound like this. doing like wham good ok - Even if I agree, I don't want to destroy pattern here by reduce the reverse slider.
  8. 01:15:880 (1,2,4) - objects here are just... uh... too close to each other. there are countless ways to make it better eaisly so dont need an example or something - Change pattern.
  9. 01:17:547 (3) - please it just fits 488x better. current thing has some emphasis on a slider tail i guess - Fix
  10. 01:26:547 (1) - don't even know why, but it seems like this would work better if it weren't exactly linear with sliderbody of 01:26:214 (2) - . lowering it is goods - Fix
  11. the box
SPOILER
i really have no idea how to explain this. look at 00:26:715 (3,4,5,1) - as an example. you've got this pattern that you're treating as one continuous flowy thing, yet becuase there's a huge gap between 4 and 5, it doesn't really allow for really smooth flow. when playing, you'll stop around 4*, not continue a fluid motion towards 5. it would make a lot more sense to have a directional change* at this point (which 99% of mappers would do because it just plays better) but you almost always force this painfully awkward movement* where you lose momentum then are forced to gain it. apparently oko tried to tell you about this at one point but i dont know how that went. anyway i can't really force you to change all of these things since it happens a lot and it's technically not unrankable, but just know it is complete shit. all of these could be improved by having some sort of sharper direction change:
*visuals for all things mentioned there
00:16:715 (1,2,3) - 00:25:048 (3,4,5) - 00:26:715 (3,4,5) - 01:01:214 (1,2,3) - 01:11:880 (1,2,3) - 01:14:547 (1,2,3) - 00:14:048 (1,2,3) - 01:05:214 (1,2,3) - 00:50:215 (3,4,1) - 00:51:881 (1,2,3,4,1) -
- I only fix 00:26:715 (3,4,5) -, for 2 reasons, first ok it's the most obvious one, and change it don't break pattern. I can understand your view about this, but that's how I like mapping stuff, I don't think it play especially worst, and I don't want to break all pattern I've done to map a way I don't like.

other places where flow could be improved for other reasons:
  1. 00:46:048 (1,2,3) - slidershape of 3 really just does not work with the way you're moving into it from 1,2. if you were to move it somewehre around like asdf then it may be fine, but right now it's seriously not - Fix
  2. 00:58:380 (6,1) - somethinglikethis would work better. angle on slider currently is so weird when moving from those circles - I don't agree, for me 00:58:214 (5,6) - suggest a downward movement so slider's angle is not so weird imo.
  3. 01:22:547 (1,2,3) - 01:23:880 (1,2,1) - 01:24:547 (1,2,3) - 00:36:548 (1,2,3,4) - all of these could be better by not making the everything linear. doies not work very well when you go from circular motion -> linear motion -> circular motion in the same direction as previous circular motion (so if you wanted to, changing direction of the 2nd circular motion would be acceptableish) - Don't want to break blanket on these, so I only fix 01:24:547 (1,2,3) - .
  4. 00:23:048 (5,1) - after such a long chain of things going in a circular motion, having a flowbreak here would be supernice - I try...I really don't know if it was what you expecting for.
  5. 00:33:215 (3,4,1) - going from 4 to 1 is pretty awkward since sliderbody of 4 indicates more circular motion of the previous section. doing like not angle would be better or something else that makes it less uh - For me, 4 indicate a rotation so flow works for this section with 1, so that's not so akward. And I don't want to increase DS.
  6. 00:35:381 (1,2,3) - given up on reasoning at htis point possible alternative with less weird from 2->3- Don't want to increase DS here too for consistency, so I just blanket it, maybe it's shit but I like it.

there's also this thing you do a lot that's super minor but hurts. mystery's diff does this in a couple places too and i didn't mention them there but if he's reading this box then good hi
  1. 00:28:381 (3,1,2) - mostly because circles break the way cursor would follow sliderbody. a possible improvement or you could keep the same idea with less gross sliderbodyfollowingthings - Fix
  2. 00:26:048 (1,2,3) - bending 1 the other way works fine - Sry I prefer mine.
even if you don't plan on changing any of these, try to avoid them in later maps. maybe it seems like overmodding or whatever, but just comparing this diff to yauxo's makes it really apparent that one could be a lot better. relative to the average ranked map it's not bad, but relative to yauxo's it is
Thk Pishi for mod. I just hope my diff won't kill this mapset ^^'

ShitNozInsane
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Topic Starter
Yauxo
uppd
pishifat
[amystery]

A Mystery wrote:

00:08:048 (1,2) - would be cool to do the same thing you did at 00:13:381 (5,6,1) - here. with the current spacing there's no impact on 00:08:715 (1) - cuz everything is following the usual distance snap, yet music is more variable than steady distance snap. would also be good to not underlap 00:09:215 (2) - if doing this cuz having everything overlappingunderlappignconfusing - Another BAT just told me to remove the antijump :( but I trust you bby <3 No I liked the antijump anyway so if you think it's not a problem I will re add it.
he might have thought it was confusing cuz you can't tell what's going on spacing wise for this very clearly. that being you should prolly do what you did wtih 00:13:381 (5,6,1,2) - here too... then unantijump 00:15:048 (3,4) - as well since it would be the only one and just looks like a spacing error ;-; stacking 3,4 works too master plan to eliminate antijumps complete

[noz]
i guess i didn't notice earlier, but 00:54:547 (1) - should end 1/4 later like every other diff since that's where the sound stops. right now it's snapped to nothing lol

Nozhomi wrote:

00:35:381 (1,2) - better accomplishes intentions - No idea what you mean here :/
there was a screenshot but apparently i didn't link it uummmmm it wasn't important enough to matter anyway since you changed it to something else

[yauxo]
gotta see something about metadata since apparently the cd doesn't include the ( ) stuff while the video does and there's also this lil scumbag music note. not trusting that taiko set considering timing was ew -.-

once that's taken care of we are ready for thinking.gif
neonat
Discussed this with pishi just now and gave him the official sources I would use.
My personal point of view is that video descriptions can be deceiving at times lol.
He should be back after asking a QAT I guess. Soon. Maybe.
Nozhomi

pishifat wrote:

[noz]
i guess i didn't notice earlier, but 00:54:547 (1) - should end 1/4 later like every other diff since that's where the sound stops. right now it's snapped to nothing lol
Well I've change it on wy own because I was thinking there is not much time to recover after this spinner but ok I redo this change it's ok now.

stiffshitnozdiff
osu file format v14

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Creator:Yauxo
Version:Noz's Insane
Source:セブンスドラゴン2020
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Topic Starter
Yauxo
Updated both diffs (A Mystery talked to me ingame)

Now, the last thing is the metadata thing.
HabiHolic
Your need mod call me please~^^
Topic Starter
Yauxo
In case I need this

Filesize: 31952kb

Video
2015-02-02 23:49 Yauxo: Ohai/ Do you still do all that video stuffs?
2015-02-02 23:50 Lust: yeeea
2015-02-02 23:50 Yauxo: May I abuse that?
2015-02-02 23:50 Yauxo: I have no idea how to video
2015-02-02 23:50 Yauxo: qwq
2015-02-02 23:50 Lust: depends on what you mean by abuse... x)
2015-02-02 23:51 Yauxo: I need a Video and I dont even give anything in return!
2015-02-02 23:51 Yauxo: ...maybe a KD
2015-02-02 23:51 Yauxo: straight abuse
2015-02-02 23:51 Lust: for what song?
2015-02-02 23:52 Yauxo: seventh heaven
2015-02-02 23:52 Yauxo: sec
2015-02-02 23:52 Yauxo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhJxD03URLY this is apparently the official video for it
2015-02-02 23:53 Lust: give me a few hours and i'll do it, going to play street fighter with my little brother and then eat dinner
2015-02-02 23:53 Yauxo: yup, sure. Take your time
2015-02-02 23:53 Yauxo: thanks :3
2015-02-03 01:45 Lust: vid should be done in five minutes or so
2015-02-03 01:45 Yauxo: great
2015-02-03 01:45 Yauxo: would recommend service
2015-02-03 01:51 Lust: mm i might need to reencode this again, what is your file folder at right now?
2015-02-03 01:51 Yauxo: mb-wise?
2015-02-03 01:52 Lust: yeah
2015-02-03 01:52 Yauxo: 3.44 mb
2015-02-03 01:52 Lust: would 27mb be fine then? x)
2015-02-03 01:52 Lust: the videos filesize was rather large when i dl'd it
2015-02-03 01:52 Yauxo: whats the rc with video again?
2015-02-03 01:52 Yauxo: :v
2015-02-03 01:52 Lust: 33mb
2015-02-03 01:52 Yauxo: I guess that'd be okay
2015-02-03 01:53 Lust: i'll tweak my settings later, but for now it should do
2015-02-03 01:53 Yauxo: yup
2015-02-03 01:55 Lust: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3810993 boopity
2015-02-03 01:56 Yauxo: thankity
2015-02-03 01:58 Yauxo: goddamn this fits w/o offset
2015-02-03 01:58 Yauxo: A+
2015-02-03 01:58 Lust: niceeee

pishifat


metadata

2015-02-08 16:32 pishifat: after you rise
2015-02-08 16:32 pishifat: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3843839 ;-;
2015-02-08 16:34 Lanturn: lol sec. lemme swap monitors
2015-02-08 16:34 Lanturn: I have no idea why I decided to mod this on my tv but whatever lol
2015-02-08 16:35 Lanturn: I'd just use the official site one
2015-02-08 16:36 Lanturn: the cd uses [ ]
2015-02-08 16:36 Lanturn: err video
2015-02-08 16:36 Lanturn: lol
2015-02-08 16:36 pishifat: k
2015-02-08 16:36 pishifat: and um
2015-02-08 16:36 pishifat: http://www.umaa.net/what/The_Fantastic_Reality_of_Aesop.html does that count as official site
2015-02-08 16:36 Lanturn: do you have the official site handy?
2015-02-08 16:37 pishifat: http://sasakuration.com/archives/date/2011/11/
2015-02-08 16:37 pishifat: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%B9%BB%E5%AE%9F%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B9-%E5%88%9D%E5%9B%9E%E7%94%9F%E7%94%A3%E9%99%90%E5%AE%9A%E7%9B%A4-DVD%E4%BB%98-sasakure-UK/dp/B0070YG12K
2015-02-08 16:37 pishifat: amazon one has a different title too
2015-02-08 16:37 pishifat: cuz consistency is hard
2015-02-08 16:37 Lanturn: UMA-9001〜9002(CD+DVD) -> umaa
2015-02-08 16:38 Lanturn: its label means that it's the official publisher
2015-02-08 16:38 Lanturn: SeventH-HeaveN feat. 初音ミク
2015-02-08 16:38 Lanturn: just use this point to the umaa site, and you're home free
2015-02-08 16:38 pishifat: wait
2015-02-08 16:38 pishifat: so should title include feat. miku'
2015-02-08 16:38 pishifat: or artist
2015-02-08 16:39 Lanturn: title
2015-02-08 16:39 Lanturn: it's part of the title
2015-02-08 16:39 pishifat: so there will be 3 sets with different metadata
2015-02-08 16:39 pishifat: niceeeeeeeee
2015-02-08 16:39 Lanturn: umaa is also part of sony I believe since it links there
2015-02-08 16:39 Lanturn: http://www.sonymusicshop.jp/m/item/itemShw.php?site=S&cd=UMA0000009001
2015-02-08 16:40 Lanturn: yay \o/
2015-02-08 16:40 pishifat: final confirmation
2015-02-08 16:40 pishifat: so i can screenshot this for the mapper
2015-02-08 16:40 pishifat: artist: sasakure.UK
2015-02-08 16:41 pishifat: title: SeventH-HeaveN feat. 初音ミク
2015-02-08 16:41 Lanturn: that should be right
2015-02-08 16:41 pishifat: woo
2015-02-08 16:41 pishifat: wellty
2015-02-08 16:41 Lanturn: copy paste directly from site = win
Okoratu
i think this is a recheck

you get nothing yauxo

[Mystery]
  1. 00:09:215 (2,3) - this movement now feels awkward as hell because 00:08:047 (1,2,1) - is an antijump and the flowbreaking nature of that pattern doesn't compliment that very well
  2. 00:57:214 (1,2,3) - pattern and mostly this blanket looks really forced and the way 1,3 overlap isn't that much eye-pleasing as well
  3. 01:03:714 (6,7,8,9) - this blanket only looks good in theory if you hit F5 you will see what i mean, moving 01:04:547 (7,8,9) - by 12x and 12y will look retarded in edit but much less retarded ingame (i'm not going to assume you care about how your map looks with HR)
  4. 01:06:880 (5,6,7,8) - this is same thing except that 5,6 nearly touch and that's eww
  5. 01:17:380 (6,7,8) - ^ asd
  6. 01:20:380 (5,1) - you do higher distance jump thing in 01:22:380 (5,1) - 01:24:380 (6,1) - for whatever reason - plays nice - but why don't you do same thing here
[noZ]
  1. 00:08:048 (1,2) - normalSamplesetWHY
  2. 00:23:215 (1,2,3) - doing jump and then this kind of baby spacing assuming that you don't do dropoff flow with 00:23:215 (1,2) - feels like really weird, i think more space and a movement to the top right would flow much better
  3. 01:06:714 (2,5,6,7) - spacing these a bit so that gap between sliders is more apparent would be better for visuals

yauxo this is the first time i see someone do that

i need to sleep, if i find anything after coming home from work i will yell at yauxo or anyone i can find
Nozhomi

Okoratu wrote:

i think this is a recheck

[noZ]
  1. 00:08:048 (1,2) - normalSamplesetWHY - Actually...they was not before SO WTF WHY !!! Fix !
  2. 00:23:215 (1,2,3) - doing jump and then this kind of baby spacing assuming that you don't do dropoff flow with 00:23:215 (1,2) - feels like really weird, i think more space and a movement to the top right would flow much better - Ok I like your idea.
  3. 01:06:714 (2,5,6,7) - spacing these a bit so that gap between sliders is more apparent would be better for visuals - Raise the gap a bit.
i need to sleep, if i find anything after coming home from work i will yell at yauxo or anyone i can find
Arigato senpai o/

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TitleUnicode:SeventH-HeaveN feat. 初音ミク
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Creator:Yauxo
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A Mystery

Okoratu wrote:

i think this is a recheck

you get nothing yauxo

[Mystery]
  1. 00:09:215 (2,3) - this movement now feels awkward as hell because 00:08:047 (1,2,1) - is an antijump and the flowbreaking nature of that pattern doesn't compliment that very well - Should be fine now
  2. 00:57:214 (1,2,3) - pattern and mostly this blanket looks really forced and the way 1,3 overlap isn't that much eye-pleasing as well - I don't agree, (a bit about the blanket though) but I remade this part
  3. 01:03:714 (6,7,8,9) - this blanket only looks good in theory if you hit F5 you will see what i mean, moving 01:04:547 (7,8,9) - by 12x and 12y will look retarded in edit but much less retarded ingame (i'm not going to assume you care about how your map looks with HR) - True.
  4. 01:06:880 (5,6,7,8) - this is same thing except that 5,6 nearly touch and that's eww - Honestly this doesn't bother me at all here :(
  5. 01:17:380 (6,7,8) - ^ asd - Hmm
  6. 01:20:380 (5,1) - you do higher distance jump thing in 01:22:380 (5,1) - 01:24:380 (6,1) - for whatever reason - plays nice - but why don't you do same thing here - I was thinking about that, I will change it to stay consistent.
Meanwhile no one noticed the terrible overlap that was here. (I removed it by stacking)

i need to sleep, if i find anything after coming home from work i will yell at yauxo or anyone i can find
Thank you!
Topic Starter
Yauxo
updated both
Okoratu
Ok so here goes my one Nomination today

About the filesize: See p/3844743 also the Ranking Criteria thing is a guideline

32MB = 32768 kB
then see Yauxo post about actual filesize of folder again, compressed filesize of osz is 32.527.533 Bytes which equal 31.02 MB

About Metadata being inconsistent to other ranked ver. p/3844923 quoting official website as artist, so legit.

The bg size is weird because the image would look even more retarded when resized
A Mystery
yey
Nozhomi
Yay~ arigato Oko <3
And thk to all modders <3
Topic Starter
Yauxo
<3
Lesbian Chiaki
Hey Nice Map u a hatsune miku fan to?
Topic Starter
Yauxo
Thank you!
Depends, really. Some I really like, some I dislike.
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